View Full Version : Did Howard Want His Eldest Son Nuked?
LittleRickyII 06-01-2016, 03:29 PM It's bad enough that Chuck completely disappeared starting in S3 and nobody -- not even his family -- every noticed, but it's still just Season 1 when Howard decides to build a bomb shelter for his family. He organizes a drill for the family and insists that everyone participate . . . except Chuck!
Dr. Thong 06-01-2016, 04:55 PM Whatever happened to Chuck Cunningham?
The mystery still remains.
Will it ever be solved?
antman67 06-05-2016, 09:11 AM It's bad enough that Chuck completely disappeared starting in S3 and nobody -- not even his family -- every noticed, but it's still just Season 1 when Howard decides to build a bomb shelter for his family. He organizes a drill for the family and insists that everyone participate . . . except Chuck!
Good Point! But I think Chuck was at school (college) or some excuse
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChuckCunninghamSyndrome
Generally, if writers want to remove a character from their ensemble, they will either kill that character off or put him on a bus (or both) to explain their absence. Sufferers of Chuck Cunningham Syndrome, on the other hand, simply disappear into limbo. They will often be retconned right out of the story's history, and everyone still left on-screen will simply carry on as if the character never existed or had any impact on the story. This is sometimes caused by the writers gradually losing interest in the character and, without making a conscious decision to remove them, eventually forget about them entirely. More often, complications behind the scenes drive the decision to remove a character.
PracTz 06-09-2016, 02:50 PM IIRC, Mr. Bosley himself was heard to shout during a taping 'Chuck! Chuck! Where ARE you?' so I don't think the character's subtraction was his idea.
LittleRickyII 06-09-2016, 09:58 PM Good Point! But I think Chuck was at school (college) or some excuse.
This episode is from the first season. Was Chuck already in college in the first season? I know in the second season he had his own apartment, but even then he was still in Milwaukee. And for crying out loud, this is Howard's son! It shouldn't matter whether he's in college, he should want him in that shelter with the rest of the family.
Early in the episode, Howard made a comment to Richie about Chuck being too busy bouncing his basketball. That seemed to be the excuse to allow him not to participate in the drill. Which is pretty lame.
mets82 06-09-2016, 10:02 PM They made light of it on the Happy Days Reunion show in 2005. They actually had both Chuck's on the show.
Mr. Television 06-09-2016, 10:20 PM Well Chuck insisted that his basketball be allowed in the shelter and when Howard said no, Chuck bowed out. lol
Dr. Thong 06-10-2016, 06:55 PM Well Chuck insisted that his basketball be allowed in the shelter and when Howard said no, Chuck bowed out. lol
On principle, he didn't participate and things were never the same.
Howard was so distraught by Chuck's betrayal that he not only never spoke of him again, but didn't allow anyone else to, either.
Torgo 06-10-2016, 07:13 PM Both Chucks' bodies are buried in the basement that appears in later seasons.
Mr. Television 06-10-2016, 07:24 PM On principle, he didn't participate and things were never the same.
Howard was so distraught by Chuck's betrayal that he not only never spoke of him again, but didn't allow anyone else to, either.
:lol:
Dr. Thong 11-21-2020, 08:58 PM I think it would have been cool in the final episode to have everyone enjoying the reception and then have Marion suddenly become alarmed, going "Howard, look! It's him!"
We then see a distraught Howard, saying "It can't be him!"
Then we go for a close up on....Chuck, who doesn't look happy, with an off-camera Marion exclaiming "It's Chuck!"
Freeze frame and end credits.
RetroGuy2000 11-22-2020, 01:28 AM I think it would have been cool in the final episode to have everyone enjoying the reception and then have Marion suddenly become alarmed, going "Howard, look! It's him!"
We then see a distraught Howard, saying "It can't be him!"
Then we go for a close up on....Chuck, who doesn't look happy, with an off-camera Marion exclaiming "It's Chuck!"
Freeze frame and end credits.
:lol::lol::lol::lol: I'd watch!
You know, it's so crazy that these sitcoms just wrote characters out like this, in such a lazy way. I'm glad TV shows nowadays handle missing characters so much better.
Dr. Thong 11-22-2020, 10:47 AM :lol::lol::lol::lol: I'd watch!
You know, it's so crazy that these sitcoms just wrote characters out like this, in such a lazy way. I'm glad TV shows nowadays handle missing characters so much better.
Chuck would probably be a recurring character were the show on today.
I can see why they cut the character; he wasn't necessary and didn't add much to the show. But they could have at least referenced him occasionally or maybe had him guest once a season for the holiday shows.
RetroGuy2000 11-22-2020, 02:32 PM Chuck would probably be a recurring character were the show on today.
I can see why they cut the character; he wasn't necessary and didn't add much to the show. But they could have at least referenced him occasionally or maybe had him guest once a season for the holiday shows.
I would have liked that. Watching the show in reruns, the series feels creepy whenever Mrs. or Mr. C mention their "two children". Like they're trying to hide something sinister.
It's cool that Chuck won the TV Land Award in 2008 for the Favorite Character Who Went Missing. I agree there wasn't a whole lot to the character other than him being in college, playing basketball, and eating a lot, but it's so weird: on his first appearance (in Love American Style), Chuck was actually first-billed. Seeing the character whittled down from first-billed to non-existent is a strange experience for the viewer, and it makes me wonder what internal processes caused such a long series of decisions to make Chuck go from major character to "we want you, the viewer, to ignore the fact that this character was once part of the Cunningham family".
Writing out a character can be done with dignity: a farewell episode, a nod to the character in other episodes, a scene where we're told what happened... But the "they never existed" approach is a disservice not just for the character but for the viewer as well.
(So far, I'm quite displeased that that seems to be the direction they're going with The Conners, with Andy and Jerry.)
DEH55 06-07-2021, 10:25 AM I remember seeing a Happy Days Christmas flashback episode where Al mentions Chuck. Does anyone remember this? They flashback to the episode where The Fonz pretends he has plans for Xmas and ends up spending it with The Cunninghams. Al is talking with Chachi I think. It must have been a Holiday special.
Dr. Thong 06-08-2021, 07:40 PM I remember seeing a Happy Days Christmas flashback episode where Al mentions Chuck. Does anyone remember this? They flashback to the episode where The Fonz pretends he has plans for Xmas and ends up spending it with The Cunninghams. Al is talking with Chachi I think. It must have been a Holiday special.
Al was talking to Fonzie, not Chachi. Chachi wasn't even on the show yet, as it was season four and Al was new to the group.
It was a redo of the intro from the previous season with Arnold. Same dialogue. I don't remember either one of them mentioning Chuck.
They just took the season two episode "Guess Who's Coming To Christmas" and added a new opening. Easy way to get out of doing a new Xmas episode two seasons in a row.
DEH55 06-08-2021, 09:56 PM Does that episode air in reruns anymore? It does not here but I swear to god they mention Chuck. And it makes sense because chuck is in the episode. But it's funny because they had erased him from the show history.
RetroGuy2000 06-08-2021, 10:29 PM I would LOVE to see that episode, and if DEH or anyone comes across it, please let us know here!
DEH55 06-08-2021, 11:15 PM I will try and look for it. I may have have taped it. I haven't seen it in maybe 15 or more years because they don't rerun that episode anymore here.
Dr. Thong 06-11-2021, 05:29 PM The episode is still rerun, just without the Fonzie/Arnold or Fonzie/Al intros.
That was done most likely so they didn't have to shoot a new Xmas episode for the 1975 and 1976 Xmas seasons. It looked like a "new" episode because they used the Happy Days theme for the opening credits (the original telecast had "Rock Around The Clock" as the music for the opening) and had footage with the then-new characters of Al and Arnold.
Basically, they shot a new framing sequence to repackage an old episode.
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