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charmedsignora 04-13-2016, 06:10 PM I don't know if this has been posted or not (and if it has, I'm sorry), but I read an article today that stated Franklin Delano Floyd has confessed to the murder of Michael Hughes. Floyd says that he shot Hughes after abducting him and buried him at an exit near the Oklahoma/Texas border.
Frankly, I'm not sure I believe this (something tells me that he's going to recant this confession any moment now), but at least it's something.
Here is the text of the article...I copied and pasted it to avoid any broken links.
Man confesses to killing missing Oklahoma boy more than 20 years ago
Apr 13th 2016 10:53AM
CHOCTAW, Okla. (KFOR) - The FBI believes they now have answers in a case that is more than two decades old.
Investigators said 6-year-old Michael Hughes was kidnapped in 1994. The child was never seen again.
The man last seen with him, Franklin Floyd, now sits on death row in Florida after being convicted of a murder there.
For years, Floyd refused to tell authorities what happened to Michael, but now FBI officials said he has broken that silence.
Michael and his principal were kidnapped from Indian Meridian Elementary School in Choctaw on September 12, 1994.
"I can remember that day as plain as today," said John Whetsel, the former Choctaw police chief and current Oklahoma County sheriff. Whetsel said it's a day he will never forget.
Hours later, the elementary school principal was found handcuffed to a tree about a mile and half east of the school.
"Franklin Floyd and Michael left, never to be seen again for a long time," Whetsel said.
Floyd was later arrested but would never say what happened to Michael. In a NewsChannel 4 interview from 1995, Whetsel said Floyd was the key to finding Michael.
"Until Floyd opens his mouth and lets us know where Michael's at, it's going to be almost impossible to locate him," Whetsel said.
For years, it has been a mystery investigators couldn't solve. Last summer, an FBI agent went to interview Floyd and asked about Michael. According to the FBI, it was during that interview Floyd confessed. He told the agent he shot Michael twice in the back of the head.
He then told the agent he buried the boy near the last exit leaving Oklahoma and heading into Texas. A search was done of the area, but no evidence was ever found.
"When Michael took his last breath here on Earth, he took the very next breath in Jesus' arms," said Merle Bean, Michael's foster-mother.
At the time of his abduction, Michael was in state custody. He was living with Merle and Ernest Bean. The couple was unable to meet us for an interview but spoke to us by phone. They said they are grateful for the prayers of so many Oklahomans.
"I feel like there is closure, and this is just where I want it to end," Merle said.
The sheriff agrees, even though he wishes Michael could have been found alive. "It's not easy to accept, but at least it's nice to know what happened," Whetsel said.
The FBI investigator who has worked this case said he hopes to interview Floyd again soon.
That agent said he thinks Floyd may have answers which could help solve other cases, including what really happened to Michael's mother.
The boy's mother died in 1990, and investigators believe Floyd may have details about what really happened to her.
Zoneboy 04-13-2016, 06:19 PM Link (http://newsok.com/after-20-years-of-lies-kidnapper-admits-killing-oklahoma-boy/article/5491091)
For 20 years, the brazen kidnapper told the same lies about the fate of the 6-year-old boy he had abducted from a Choctaw elementary school.
Franklin Delano Floyd would insist Michael Anthony Hughes was alive, that he had put the boy somewhere safe after leaving the school principal handcuffed to a tree Sept. 12, 1994. Floyd would defend what he did, saying Michael is his son despite what a blood test showed.
"He is placed where his dad deems to be in his best interest," he said in a statement after being sentenced in 1995 to 52 years in federal prison for the kidnapping. "It's none of your business where he is, nor do I care how much any of you in Oklahoma miss him or love him."
But from death row in Florida, in September 2014, Floyd admitted to two FBI agents from Oklahoma what had been suspected all along. Floyd said he had killed Michael the same day of the abduction, after it became clear his plan to raise the boy while being a fugitive from the law wasn't going to work — this time.
"I'd been asking him, 'How'd you kill him? How'd you kill him? How'd you kill him?' " FBI Special Agent Scott Lobb told The Oklahoman. "And he finally just turned and looked at me and said, matter of factly, 'I shot him twice in the back of the head to make it real quick.' ... He didn't show any remorse."
Floyd told the two agents, Lobb and Nate Furr, that he shot and buried Michael at the last Oklahoma exit before the Texas border on Interstate 35. A two-day search of the area in March 2015 year found no evidence.
"We had to break through that facade, that wall, and get him to where he confessed to what he did with the boy," Lobb said. "He was (saying) the same thing ... 'Michael was married to a government attorney living in the Kansas City area. Michael was safe in a foreign country.' There were a couple of other stories that were just far-fetched."
Floyd in April 1990 had left Michael in state custody after his wife, the boy's mother, died in a hit-and-run incident in Oklahoma City. The boy was then 2. Floyd then was a federal fugitive, on the run for 17 years for breaking parole. He had been in prison for bank robbery.
At the time of the kidnapping, Michael was 6 and had been living with the same foster parents for almost four years. Floyd had been back in and out of federal prison and was seeking to regain custody of Michael. Floyd claimed the boy's foster parents were abusive.
After 20 years of lies, kidnapper admits killing Oklahoma boy
Floyd was facing an uphill struggle in his effort to get Michael again. A blood test had shown he was not Michael's biological father. Also, he was facing an assault and battery charge that could send him to state prison.
"What he said was, 'It just got to a boiling point.' No one was listening to him. He was frustrated. So he kidnapped him," Lobb said.
What Floyd had not counted on was that he and Michael had grown apart.
"All of a sudden this guy shows up in Michael's life," Lobb said. "He's been out of his life since 1990, with the exception of a couple of prison visits that had been mandated by the court until they found out he wasn't the father. Michael wants nothing to do with him. He's got a secure home. He's happy. He's got stability in his life."
The agent said Michael got out of control on the drive toward Texas and Floyd couldn't handle it. Floyd then decided to kill the boy. "He knew it couldn't be what he wanted it to be," the agent said. "He knew his life wouldn't be the same because Michael didn't love him anymore, didn't want to be with him."
A month after the kidnapping, the principal's stolen pickup truck was found in Dallas. Two months after the kidnapping, Floyd was located — alone — in Kentucky.
Looking at overhead photos and maps, Floyd in January 2015 was able to point out an area where he said the shooting happened. The FBI's Evidence Response Team and anthropologists from the University of Oklahoma sifted dirt in the 2,000-square-foot area for 16 hours.
They had not expected to find any remains because wild hogs that roam the woods there would have eaten even the boy's bones. They had hoped to find bullet casings, a belt buckle or eyelets from Michael's sneakers, but didn't.
Closure has finally come
For Michael's foster parents, Ernest and Merle Bean, the confession has brought the devout Baptists closure —at last. Both are 64.
The FBI agents visited with them last July at their home in Choctaw about the boy they had planned to adopt.
Merle Bean sent The Oklahoman a letter in March thanking the agents for their work and thanking all those across the United States who had prayed for them. "Rest assured that Michael is at peace and safe in the arms of Jesus," she wrote. "We will see him again."
In an interview last week, Ernest Bean said of the FBI disclosure: "It was just like I thought. ... This whole time, I figured that Michael was dead, that he killed him early on. I figured that right from the start. ... My view was: I would rather him be dead than living somewhere in torment, suffering, wanting to come home ... being a prisoner. I'd rather him be in the arms of Jesus."
Merle Bean said, "It just feels good. Just to know."
She said she always was more uncertain about what had happened to Michael than her husband was. She described herself as kind of twisting this way and that. So when the FBI agents came out to talk to them, it was a relief, she said.
"We knew he wasn't being hurt," she said. "And, like I said in the letter, when he took his last breath here on this earth, he was in the arms of Jesus his very next breath. And so that gave us peace."
On death row
Floyd, now 72, is on death row in Florida for fatally shooting an exotic dancer, Cheryl Commesso, in 1989. He was convicted in 2002, after a landscaping worker found her skull in 1995 along a Florida interstate. The evidence against him in that case included photos of the dancer — beaten. Floyd had hidden the photos on top of the gas tank of the pickup truck that he had stolen from the Oklahoma elementary school principal. A body shop owner in Kansas found the photos in 1995.
Commesso and Michael's mother had been co-workers at the strip club in Florida.
Another revelation
Floyd also admitted to the two FBI agents from Oklahoma the true identity of Michael's mother. In an interview in May 2014, he disclosed she was Suzanne Marie Sevakis — the oldest of three daughters of a woman he married in North Carolina in 1974 shortly after becoming a fugitive.
He revealed that he took off with Suzanne in 1975 after her mother was jailed in Dallas on a minor offense. They moved first to Oklahoma City. He said he dropped the other girls at a children's home. The FBI confirmed his account through marriage records and DNA samples.
Suzanne turned 6 in 1975. She was known as Suzanne Davis in Oklahoma City.
Suzanne was known as Sharon Marshall in high school in Georgia. She and Floyd married in New Orleans in June 1989. She then called herself Tonya Tadlock — the name of a girl who died of pneumonia in Alabama years ago. Floyd at the time went by the name Clarence Hughes.
At the time of her death, she was known as Tonya Hughes and was a stripper at Passions, a club in Tulsa. She was 20. Floyd was a suspect in her hit-and-run death in Oklahoma City but was never charged.
Floyd refused to talk to the FBI agents about her death.
"That's the one thing Floyd won't talk about," Lobb said.
1990 UM fan 04-14-2016, 10:02 AM Glad that some of the missing pieces are coming together in this case. All that needs to be known is exactly where Michael's body is and if Floyd indeed killed Suzanne and why.
RobinW 04-14-2016, 12:44 PM Sadly, even if the mysteries of Michael and Suzanne are totally resolved, there's still a new one with unanswered questions: Floyd took Suzanne's infant brother with him when he originally abducted her, but as far as I can tell, no one knows what happened to him.
The best case scenario is that Floyd gave the child away and he was raised by someone else, but knowing Floyd, that's highly doubtful.
SPD Yellow 04-14-2016, 05:09 PM Floyd...:mad: One guy so reprehensible that even Gandhi wouldn't have moral objections to curb-stomping that mothereffer.
sdb4884 04-14-2016, 10:06 PM At least pieces of this puzzle are finally being put into place.
dynoguy88 04-14-2016, 11:51 PM So the devil himself finally admits to Michael's murder after 22 years. The least he could do is admit to killing Sharon too...because he DID kill her. There was never a doubt in my mind.
He sent her out that night with a list of items to pick up from the store, where she was immediately struck by a driver, conveniently shortly after signing a life insurance policy. While she was dying in a hospital bed, the nurses said he showed no emotion, no concern, no sadness and he actually looked annoyed and angry when it appeared her vitals were starting to improve.
So why confess to killing Michael now but still keep quiet about killing Sharon? The man insists on being an evil piece of **** until the bitter end.
LooksLikeCRicci 04-15-2016, 12:06 PM I'm a terrible person for saying this, but...
Can we even put any stock into this so-called confession? I have no doubt that he did kill Michael. I just find if odd that he'd suddenly confess now.
TheCars1986 04-15-2016, 12:49 PM So the devil himself finally admits to Michael's murder after 22 years. The least he could do is admit to killing Sharon too...because he DID kill her. There was never a doubt in my mind.
He sent her out that night with a list of items to pick up from the store, where she was immediately struck by a driver, conveniently shortly after signing a life insurance policy. While she was dying in a hospital bed, the nurses said he showed no emotion, no concern, no sadness and he actually looked annoyed and angry when it appeared her vitals were starting to improve.
So why confess to killing Michael now but still keep quiet about killing Sharon? The man insists on being an evil piece of **** until the bitter end.
Well said.
charmedsignora 04-15-2016, 06:58 PM I just find if odd that he'd suddenly confess now.
I looked him up; he's still on death row in Florida, but no execution date has been set. Maybe he thinks that giving some sort of confession will help his case.
WishfulDreamer 04-16-2016, 12:48 AM I'm a terrible person for saying this, but...
Can we even put any stock into this so-called confession? I have no doubt that he did kill Michael. I just find if odd that he'd suddenly confess now.
You're not terrible. I wholeheartedly agree that he's responsible, but I also have a hard time believing him, especially the details. I don't think they'll ever find Michael's body (I'M sure the given location is bogus).
Let's keep in mind that Floyd also confessed to drowning Michael (I believe he told his sister this) when Michael refused to say, "I love you."
Whatever happened, Floyd is still a miserable POS. He is honestly one of the most sickening people I've ever read about.
SitcomsAreTheWay 04-17-2016, 02:18 PM Ugh, I loathe him. He's psychotic and his hasty, self-entitled demeanor is disgusting.
LaurierCrimmajor 04-18-2016, 10:33 AM For this guy, I always ask WWVMD?
McBevis 04-18-2016, 03:21 PM I'm a terrible person for saying this, but...
Can we even put any stock into this so-called confession? I have no doubt that he did kill Michael. I just find if odd that he'd suddenly confess now.
He's not getting any younger, and it's unlikely that he'll ever walk free again, so he probably figured that by now there's no longer any point in keeping quiet about it.
dynoguy88 04-19-2016, 10:31 PM Oh he absolutely killed her. There's no doubt in my mind about that.
Some info from the Investigators episode, which I am currently re-watching:
-Investigators wondered why Suzanne wouldn't just drive herself to the store, or have Floyd drive her. Floyd said they were visiting Oklahoma City from Tulsa and Suzanne wasn't familiar with the area. It's doubtful she would go out alone, at night, in a big city she wasn't familiar with.
-Floyd's story changed. He initially stated he was aware she was missing later that night. He then changed his story and said he fell asleep and didn't realize she was missing until the next morning.
-It's doubtful Suzanne was even killed on the road. Doctors said she suffered only a head injury, and it wasn't consistent with being struck by a car, where she most certainly would have sustained damage lower on her body.
-Floyd tried to get her cremated right away, which is highly suspicious.
He killed her. As for motive, who knows what goes on through that warped mind.
Reading those facts, I was curious about the whole hospital ordeal so I went back to check the book. I hadn't looked at it in years and every disturbing fact is just as disturbing.
For those who haven't read the book, here are the sections I'm talking about....
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The police brought Clarence (Floyd’s alias) to the hospital and into Tonya’s room. He appeared unmoved at the sight of his young wife, who was lying still but breathing easily. Wires and thin tubes protruded from her body. Her blood pressure was still high, 155/105, but her other vital signs were stable.
She appeared to be in a very deep sleep but in fact was in a coma and unresponsive to any spoken commands, though she did mumble a few words, particularly “Daddy.”
The major concern, said the doctor, was the hematoma on the back of her head. Her brain had been severely bruised and all anyone could do right then was wait.
Given that her vital signs were stable, doctors expressed cautious optimism that she would, in fact, pull through over the next day or two.
Clarence stood still as the doctor delivered his report. He displayed no emotion nor did he try to comfort his wife by touching her body or whispering something soothing or heartfelt into her ear. Instead, following the update on his wife’s condition, Clarence politely asked the nurse for a pen, a notebook sized piece of paper, and some clear tape. The nurse, somewhat puzzled, left the room but quickly returned with the items.
Clarence asked the doctor and nurse to leave, saying he wanted a moment or two alone with his wife.
When they returned several minutes later, Clarence had left the hospital, but he had left a sign taped to the outside of the door. It read, NO VISITORS.
(Later when Floyd called Tonya’s friends at the Strip Club).....
Connie reached into the dressing room, flung on her robe and ran into J.R.’s office, where she picked up the phone.
“Clarence? What happened! What did you do to her?”
“I didn’t do nothing!” said Clarence. “She went out for some baby food last night and got hit by a car. She’s out, unconscious, in a coma. Thought I’d call you and tell you. We need her money. Don’t come visit because the doctors won’t allow it. I’ll come there and pick it up. Probably on Tuesday.”
“Why is she in Oklahoma City?”
“She had a doctor’s appointment. A gynecologist.”
“Where’s Michael?”
“He’s fine. He’s with me.”
“What hospital is she in?”
“Presbyterian. Oklahoma City. But like I said, she’s in bad shape and doctors do not want visitors. I got to go. I’ll be by for her money on Tuesday.”
Connie placed the phone down and sat in J.R.’s chair as several dancers and other employers gathered in the doorway.
“Tonya’s in the hospital. She got hit by a car last night. I don’t know what happened but Clarence said it was some sort of an accident,” said Connie. “First night she ever takes off, and she ends up in the hospital? Bullsh*t. He tried to kill her.”
Oklahoma City was 120 miles to the west-southwest on I-44, and Connie enlisted Kevin Brown to accompany her to the hospital. Kevin was a college student and a Passion customer who knew Tonya well.
When they arrived two hours later, Connie went directly to the information desk, asked for Tonya Hughes’ room number, and then took the elevator to the third floor, leaving Kevin in the lobby. She found the room, saw the ridiculous No Visitors sign taped to the door, then poked her head inside. Tonya was alone, lying on her back, faint noises coming from the medical equipment monitoring her condition.
Connie opened the door all the way and slowly walked up to Tonya’s bed, stopping by her side. Tonya looked like she always did, like a pretty blonde angel. Her face was unmarked, as were her arms. Connie was confused. Clarence said she was hit by a car, but she appeared to be in perfect condition. There were no scratches on her face, no broken bones, no scrapes from the road. She looked as if she was sleeping.
Connie leaned over and whispered, “Hey, Tonya, it’s Connie. I came here to take care of you. Kevin is here. You’re going to be alright now.”
A nurse walked in to check on Tonya’s vital signs. Startled, Connie stood up and said she was a friend who drove down from Tulsa.
As Connie spoke, Tonya’s head moved, following Connie’s voice.
“Oh my GOD, she’s responding to you,” said the nurse.
Tonya raised her right arm and appeared to be reaching for Connie, who grabbed her hand and held it tight.
“I’m going to get the doctor,” said the nurse.
Tonya was still in a coma but appeared to be slowly emerging from her unconscious state. Kevin was allowed to visit and when he spoke, Tonya moved her head in his direction.
Recognizing her friends was good news and the medical staff was pleased with her progress. Given the significant blow she received on the back of her head, doctors initially had their doubts that she would recover. They had other doubts too and they centered on her husband, Clarence.
He had displayed little emotion when he arrived that first morning, and his bizarre No Visitors sign startled the nursing staff. Of more concern was the theft of Tonya’s personal effects, including her clothes. All of them were missing. Perhaps most concerning were Tonya’s injuries. When Connie questioned Tonya’s condition and the lack of visible marks and bruises, the doctor pulled her aside.
“This was no car accident,” he said.
“I knew it,” said Connie.
Connie was quick to share her suspicions concerning Clarence and the violent nature of Tonya’s relationship with her husband, whom she was planning to leave.
Kevin had told her just that morning the details of her bold plan, and Kevin was going to help her.
“What changed her mind? We’ve been telling her to run for months,” said Connie.
“Something happened over the past month,” said Kevin. “She wouldn’t tell me, but she started talking about a new life, of going to college.”
Connie was surprised to learn that Tonya had finally wised up. But then, it didn’t make much sense. Tonya was doing something she never did; she was making plans. She was talking about a new future.
The medical staff took Connie aside and suggested she visit with the Oklahoma City Police Department. They also made it clear that it was time to go. Clarence was clear in his demands that Tonya received no visitors. Connie remained in Oklahoma City, taking a room at a nearby hotel. Considering Tonya’s response to Connie, the medical staff welcomed her visits and would call her whenever Clarence left the hospital.
Connie was sure Clarence had something to do with Tonya’s injuries, and only hoped that when Tonya awoke, she’d tell the medical staff, her friends, and the police what had really happened early Thursday morning. Tonya’s condition gradually improved enough that Connie left Oklahoma City on Sunday morning and by mid-afternoon was back at Passions relaying the good news. Though she had yet to regain consciousness, doctors were sure she would come out.
“Maybe by mid-week,” said Connie.
A few hours later, she received a call from Clarence. He was still in Oklahoma City and he was irate.
“Who told you to go visit her in the hospital?!” he screamed. “I told you she can’t have no visitors! Those b*tches at the hospital will all be fired. No one is allowed in the room. No one!”
Connie held her composure. She explained that Tonya was her friend and no one, not even her husband, was going to keep her away. She said nothing about visiting the police, something she figured she’d do once Tonya was recovered. Clarence’s anger quickly subsided as he changed the subject. He needed money and asked Connie if she wanted to buy some furniture.
“I’m moving out here and I need to sell everything in the trailer in Tulsa. You interested?”
“Moving? What for?”
“To be near Tonya.”
“What about Michael?”
“Never mind Michael. I’m his daddy and I’ll take care of him. I’ll call you on Friday. If you want the furniture, let me know then.”
Connie immediately called the hospital and told them that Clarence was clearing out and suggested they keep an eye on Tonya. He must have tried to kill her once, she reasoned, and what’s to stop him from trying again? Connie decided to head back to Oklahoma City the next day and gave the hospital her home and work numbers in the event of an emergency.
Early the following morning, the phone rang. It was hospital. Tonya’s condition had suddenly worsened. She was on life support and was not expected to live through the day. Tonya was going to die and Connie wanted to say good-bye, she had to leave now.
When Connie arrived at the hospital early in the afternoon, she ran up to Tonya’s room. The No Visitors sign was gone, and Tonya’s bed was empty. A nurse pulled her aside and told her that Tonya had been pronounced dead. With the exception of two nurses and a doctor, no one was with Tonya at the end. Not even her husband, who was given advanced notice in the morning, but said he wouldn’t be there. Instead, he barked out orders to have her organs donated and her body immediately cremated. There would be no funeral or service of any kind.
“Cremated?” said Connie between her tears. “She did not want to be cremated. I know. We talked about this stuff. We both wanted to be buried. And we have to have a service. How can that bastard not have a service?”
Connie was led downstairs and into a room where Tonya was lying on a gurney, covered by a white sheet from head to toe. The nurse pulled the sheet to reveal Tonya’s face. She looked the same, as if she were sleeping. Connie exploded into tears. Her friend was gone.
“What happened?” said Connie to the nurse. “She was coming along. She was supposed to come out of it.”
“We don’t know,” said the nurse. “Her husband visited with her last night and this morning, her vitals were failing. There was nothing we could do. She never came out of her coma.”
An orderly walked in and said it was time to move the body. Connie kissed Tonya’s forehead and said good-bye.
The gurney was rolled away and Oklahoma Organ Sharing Network delivered Tonya’s organs to various individuals. Her heart was given to a sixty-year old Arizona woman who returned to her husband and grown children following the transplant operation. Tonya’s liver went to a thirty-nine year old New York woman who was married with two sons and was a resident nurse. One kidney went to a twenty-four year old man from Texas, married with one child. The other kidney was transplanted to a fourteen year old girl from Oklahoma who had been on dialysis for a year. Two blind Oklahoma residents were given Tonya’s corneas, and an assortment of individuals benefited from donated bone.
Connie was led to the lobby and drew sympathy from the medical staff, which had been leery of Clarence Hughes since the beginning. Connie asked about a wake and a funeral, and the hospital agreed to move Tonya’s remains to Tulsa, so long as the check to cover transportation expense arrived by the end of the business day, and her husband gave permission.
Connie called J.R. Buck, who readily agreed to front the money to transport the body. She then called Clarence, and told him that having a funeral was the right thing to do. Connie explained the employees at Passions would pay for the funeral, and that Tonya deserved a decent burial.
“You’re going to pay for the funeral?” said Clarence, who resisted by finally relented, stipulating that there would be no open casket during the wake. Connie relayed the news to the medical staff, which agreed with the decision for a closed casket.
Before leaving, the nurses told Connie of one last problem, and it had to do with Michael. He wasn’t talking or crying. He was dirty and smelled of urine. It was gently suggested that Connie visit social services.
JTK1701 04-27-2016, 11:10 AM Here's a thread from a few years ago about The Investigators episode, which had a lot of additional details. The book is also mentioned and discussed. I'm truly convinced Floyd is one of the sickest people to have ever walked the planet, and I think I'd be truly horrified if I knew the full scope of his actions.
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=309270&highlight=franklin+delano+floyd
I'm rewatching The Investigators episode. It also stated Floyd had told Sharon that he "had once done something so evil that if anyone ever found out about it, he'd never see the light of day again." As to what that is, it could be one of his crimes we know about or something else entirely. :( :mad: :eek:
Absolutely, Whether you believe in Capital Punishment or not. He makes an easy case for it in my opinion.
Hambone2421 08-25-2016, 11:54 AM Gosh, we all knew he killed that sweet little boy, but at least now he has kinda confessed to it. If you even believe his confession is legit. There's no doubt it mind mind that he killed Michael and his mother, but I have a feeling he knows EXACTLY where Michael is buried and wont reveal it.
Looking at pictures of that poor little boy. I believe he was just a few years younger than me at the time he was killed.
There's a special place in hell for people like Franklin Delano Floyd. Burn in hell, you soulless POS.
Investigation Discovery is airing a story about this case this Thursday on "Pandora's Box: Unleashing Evil."
SPD Yellow 12-19-2016, 05:59 PM I watched the Pandora's Box episode. They didn't mention anything about Suzanne having a baby brother who was never found. I'm not sure why they wouldn't. Is that actually true or was I mistaken? Also they said the reveal of her actual identity came from Floyd, but I have a very hard time believing that. :mad: Seriously not even Gandhi would object to curb-stomping that mothereffer.
bugnpinky 12-19-2016, 09:27 PM I watched the Pandora's Box episode. They didn't mention anything about Suzanne having a baby brother who was never found. I'm not sure why they wouldn't. Is that actually true or was I mistaken? Also they said the reveal of her actual identity came from Floyd, but I have a very hard time believing that. :mad: Seriously not even Gandhi would object to curb-stomping that mothereffer.
Matt Birkbeck has mentioned that there was a brother but that's about it. No one can confirm much of anything anything because the family has yet to ever speak about it publicly. As for her identity he did seem to make up all the aliases and backstories.
tsaun 12-20-2016, 08:34 PM Can't they hurry up and execute this guy?
He's had enough time.
Drown Soda 02-05-2017, 03:20 AM Wow, I did not know this. I was watching this episode yesterday and read Floyd's wiki page. It didn't mention that he'd confessed to murdering him, although I think most people presumed he did. He's abhorrent—a truly evil person.
They don't even really know who Michael's real parents were, do they?
kadrmaskb 02-05-2017, 06:48 AM Floyd, well he won't be executed any time soon. His mental health keeps him alive and he flips and flops between wanting to be executed and wanting to stay. He turns 74 this year, his appeals I believe have moved into the federal stage now but with Florida's death penalty system in shambles he will under the latest opinion almost certainly get a new penalty phase which even if he received a death sentence again it would start his appeals process all over again.
Tap Dancer 02-05-2017, 09:50 AM Every time this thread is bumped up, I'm hopeful there will be news that this POS is dead. I'm disappointed to know he's still alive. :(
tlc38tlc38 02-12-2017, 11:49 AM This guy always gives me the creeps. It's hard for me to watch this segment because I knew he was always lying.
Sailor Haumea 12-14-2017, 04:51 PM Can't they hurry up and execute this guy?
He's had enough time.
There are a few cases that might be connected to Floyd. The kidnapping of Christina Lynn Carter...supposedly Floyd was in the area with "Sharon" at the time. As this was 1973 (before he even met Sandi), it can't be Suzanne...but what if Suzanne wasn't the first girl he abducted and called "Sharon"?
A chilling thought, isn't it?
I always assumed she was beaten and then Floyd DID hit her with a car afterward. But apparently it's contested whether there even was a hit-and-run accident?
I actually think commuting to life and putting him in general population would be the perfect punishment. We all know what happens to child molesters/murderers in prison.
drew790 12-15-2017, 01:24 AM Ugh, this case and this man.
I also can't help feel a certain kind of way towards that principal.
dynoguy88 12-15-2017, 11:19 AM It's hard for me to watch this segment because I knew he was always lying.
It's definitely a strange experience watching a segment the first time after you FINALLY know the gory details.
Before reading the book, 'A Beautiful Child,' Franklin Floyd came across like a smug *****. You knew he was full of crap and lying his mouth off. But once you've read the book and know what a true monster he is and his lifetime of horrible crimes, it's just an entirely different experience watching the segment.
Same goes for the Wendy Camp segment. After the remains of the three ladies were found, the picture that was posted online and knowing that Beverly and Ida thought of little Cynthia as "damaged" goods and using that as justification to kill her along with the others...it was surreal watching the segment. A completely different experience from before where you watched it and Ida's guilt was so obvious that it became almost comical.
Huskerz85 12-15-2017, 01:02 PM Strap this POS down and load him up with Fetanyl (which is being used in Lethal Injection cocktails anyways)
Sailor Haumea 12-15-2017, 11:30 PM Strap this POS down and load him up with Fetanyl (which is being used in Lethal Injection cocktails anyways)
Not yet. We still don't know what he did with Phillip (Suzanne's brother), and there's a possibility he may have abducted a girl and named HER "Sharon" too between February and October of 1973. In addition, there was an anonymous tip that this "Sharon" (can't be Suzanne, as Suzanne was only abducted in May 1975) was with Floyd in October 1973 and he aided in the murder of Christina Lynn Carter.
And Thomas Tillery (kidnapped September 19, 1994) is another potential victim.
So, a few unanswered questions:
1. Who was the "Sharon" he was with in 1973?
2. Did he have anything to do with the kidnapping of Thomas Tillery?
3. Where is Phillip Steven Brandenburg?
4. Did you murder Suzanne, or did you have someone else do the dirty deed?
Let's get everything resolved, THEN execute him. THINK!!!!
Tap Dancer 12-16-2017, 01:48 PM We still don't know what he did with Phillip (Suzanne's brother), and there's a possibility he may have abducted a girl and named HER "Sharon" too between February and October of 1973. In addition, there was an anonymous tip that this "Sharon" (can't be Suzanne, as Suzanne was only abducted in May 1975) was with Floyd in October 1973 and he aided in the murder of Christina Lynn Carter.
And Thomas Tillery (kidnapped September 19, 1994) is another potential victim.
I doubt he's going to talk.
Huskerz85 01-25-2018, 02:07 PM I doubt he's going to talk.
Exactly. I can understand how some might hold out hope that he might spill the beans on this, that and the third right before the end, but I have a hard time believing this guy ever would. His mind, among other things, is way too warped.
Huskerz85 09-24-2019, 01:33 PM An interesting update to this case from earlier this year - haven't found anything else regarding this
https://www.forensicmag.com/news/2019/04/exclusive-nc-man-waits-dna-results-putting-him-wake-death-row-killer
Huskerz85 09-24-2019, 01:34 PM An interesting update to this case from earlier this year - haven't found anything else regarding this
https://www.forensicmag.com/news/2019/04/exclusive-nc-man-waits-dna-results-putting-him-wake-death-row-killer
jets4life 09-28-2019, 04:52 AM If it is of any comfort, I have sources that state Floyd is not enjoying jail. When he was in prison in the 60s, he had a nervous breakdown after being sexually violated for some of his earlier life crimes. I cannot imagine it has gotten any better for him in the past 25 years.
drew790 09-29-2019, 07:06 AM Not yet. We still don't know what he did with Phillip (Suzanne's brother), and there's a possibility he may have abducted a girl and named HER "Sharon" too between February and October of 1973. In addition, there was an anonymous tip that this "Sharon" (can't be Suzanne, as Suzanne was only abducted in May 1975) was with Floyd in October 1973 and he aided in the murder of Christina Lynn Carter.
And Thomas Tillery (kidnapped September 19, 1994) is another potential victim.
So, a few unanswered questions:
1. Who was the "Sharon" he was with in 1973?
2. Did he have anything to do with the kidnapping of Thomas Tillery?
3. Where is Phillip Steven Brandenburg?
4. Did you murder Suzanne, or did you have someone else do the dirty deed?
Let's get everything resolved, THEN execute him. THINK!!!!
We're not going to get it.
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 07-13-2020, 11:03 PM 20/20 on Own did an episode on this which aired last night.
As for Michael and Suzanne, whatever her original identity may have been. Michael had a blood test. Are the results of this or the remains of Suzanne available for DNA testing? Suzanne was Michael's mother, right? Is that in dispute and did she have other children? I didn't watch the entire episode. If so, test results could be run through one of these relative finders and maybe figure out who was really who in this case. Some family may have been missing her for decades. I have suggested this in the Clifford Sherwood case as well and it might work for others such as the unidentified murdered couple if their remains are available.
Sorry, I have not followed the case closely. Was Suzanne positively identifed? Otherwise how do they know when she was abducted and that she had a brother taken at the same time? Thanks.
drew790 07-13-2020, 11:38 PM I still think the school principal that bundled Michael up and sent him off with the psychopath should have faced some kind of charges. Bare minimum should have been prevented from working in that field ever again.
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 07-13-2020, 11:55 PM I still think the school principal that bundled Michael up and sent him off with the psychopath should have faced some kind of charges. Bare minimum should have been prevented from working in that field ever again.
Oughta know better.
jets4life 11-30-2020, 08:59 PM I still think the school principal that bundled Michael up and sent him off with the psychopath should have faced some kind of charges. Bare minimum should have been prevented from working in that field ever again.
The principal you speak of, was taken at gunpoint, forced to call Michael to his office, then the two were forced by Floyd into the principal's truck, and drove to a secluded area, where Floyd tied up the principal to a tree off a road, and fleeing with Michael in the stolen truck.
How on Earth is the principal to blame?
dynoguy88 12-01-2020, 01:43 PM The principal you speak of, was taken at gunpoint, forced to call Michael to his office, then the two were forced by Floyd into the principal's truck, and drove to a secluded area, where Floyd tied up the principal to a tree off a road, and fleeing with Michael in the stolen truck.
How on Earth is the principal to blame?
Indeed. I have no idea what this person is talking about.
How dare that principal allow himself to get abducted at gunpoint by a mad man? :rolleyes:
Labonte18 12-07-2020, 04:56 PM Indeed. I have no idea what this person is talking about.
How dare that principal allow himself to get abducted at gunpoint by a mad man? :rolleyes:
Honestly.. i didn't remember this from the episode. Maybe because this is so similar to the case where the banker(?) was kidnapped by the guy who wrote all the notes to himself and left in the woods wrapped in a sleeping bag, then promptly escaped.
Always made me think it was a kidnapping done by Milton Waddams from Office Space. and the suspect in the re-enactment looked like him, too.
dynoguy88 06-27-2022, 11:41 AM Looks like Netflix is doing a documentary on the bizarre Franklin Floyd / Sharon Marshall saga. 'Girl in the Picture' will be released July 6th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnJ4BGNpby8
For those who didn't read the book, you're finally going to get to hear about the intimate details of how truly evil Franklin Floyd is. But now with more information. The book was written BEFORE Floyd confessed to Michael's murder and before Sharon's birth family was finally tracked down.
I look forward to watching this.
SPD Yellow 07-07-2022, 05:57 PM I watched the Netflix documentary. It was pretty good, but thought I’d link to a Danielle Kirsty video about it. According to it, Suzanne’s little brother, Philip, was found alive and well thanks to forensic genealogy.
https://youtu.be/Ky1u0Ss-NZM
Just thought I’d see what the rest of you thought of it. It seems almost all of the mysteries related to this case have been answered. Thank God…this one has fascinated me since I saw it on UM when I was a kid. And from what I can tell, hatred of Franklin Delano Floyd is universal on this board; it’s one of the few things we all agree on: **** Franklin Delano Floyd!
I thought the part of the Netflix documentary with the former friend of Suzanne’s who criticized Suzanne’s Mom was kind of interesting. I thought I’d see what the rest of you thought about it. The friend herself was kidnapped as a child for five years, but was eventually found thanks in part to her mother who pretty much pounded the pavement constantly and did everything she could to keep her case in the public eye. Hence why she criticized Suzanne’s Mom. I’d post a clip, but I have no idea how to do so.
dynoguy88 07-08-2022, 01:35 PM This was a very well done documentary. And I think the best thing about it is they got interviews with pretty much every person attached to Suzanne's life.
We now know the answers to everything except where Michael's remains are buried. That's the only task that will be extremely difficult to accomplish since Floyd doesn't know of the exact spot.
Something that shocked me to my core was the interview with Suzanne's best friend from high school in Georgia. I read the book, 'A Beautiful Child,' and it made note of the instance where the friend was spending the night at Floyd and Suzanne's trailer and Floyd busted into their bedroom while the girls were changing to point a gun at them as a "joke." But the book doesn't mention that Floyd walked back into the bedroom a second time a few moments later holding the gun and told the friend to put her face down on her pillow while he raped Suzanne on her bed. Once he finished, he left the room and the friend, still clearly in shock, had to be comforted by Suzanne because "that's just the way her dad is."
I had to pick my mouth up off the floor. Suzanne had clearly been abused by Floyd for so long that her being raped just inches from her best friend and classmate was somehow normalized in her head. And what also kills me is that the friend told NOBODY. Not her parents, not the police, nobody! How different things might have turned out had she reported this to authorities.
I will never understand the police's stance in 1973 that because Suzanne's mother was married to Floyd at the time, that gave him the legal right to basically kidnap her kids. He was the step-father. He never legally adopted any of those children. So why was he allowed to do this?
I thought the part of the Netflix documentary with the former friend of Suzanne’s who criticized Suzanne’s Mom was kind of interesting. The friend herself was kidnapped as a child for five years, but was eventually found thanks in part to her mother who pretty much pounded the pavement constantly and did everything she could to keep her case in the public eye. Hence why she criticized Suzanne’s Mom.
Yeah, I thought that was interesting as well. But nobody goes into detail of what the mother did or did not do back in the early 70's. After the mother said police wouldn't get involved, her interview is basically done. I feel horrible for her and the father. To spend 30 something years wondering if your daughter was alive and where she was only to discover the hellish life she had to live with that monster. How do you even cope with that?
I'm glad Suzanne is now buried under her real name. It's just a shame that she never got to find out who she was. Had she been able to grow up under even mediocre parents and away from Floyd, I could definitely see her working for NASA, which was her dream.
Floyd is scum. He can rot in hell.
hannahstohelit 07-10-2022, 10:15 PM That documentary was EXCELLENT. It's interesting, seeing all the people who hadn't been familiar with the case now flipping out about how insane the story is. I know I learned a lot, though most of it I knew from following the case over time; I think the main brand new thing I learned was about her daughter Megan and the fact that she apparently had a third kid as well...?
I'm very intrigued about Suzanne's parents as well; the vibe I got from the way the creators arranged the clips is that the overall opinion of the people involved is that they (the filmmakers, and maybe the other people involved) don't trust the mom. Otherwise I think they would have framed things differently in terms of who they quoted when. The dad I'm a bit more confused about.
TBH the documentary made me wonder if Michael might actually be alive, though I doubt it. It's very sweet and heartwarming that Megan named her son after him. It was also interesting seeing how devoted Suzanne/Sharon/Tonya clearly was to Michael, and yet the image of neglect that his foster parents gave over in their interview. That was clearly a terrible home to grow up in, and it seems as though Suzanne had a limited amount of agency in terms of how she was allowed to care for him and likely didn't know what "normal" was supposed to be like. I'm impressed that she was able to make it through high school, and presumably middle school before that, as functionally as she did, and had the emotional bandwidth to become the wonderful friend it sounded like she was.
Huskerz85 07-11-2022, 01:15 PM The documentary was a good one. I do feel sorry for her mom too - up to a point though. Yeah, her interview ended rather abruptly, but if she really cared, she would've cultivated some ties with her granddaughter who was shown. The fact that she didn't and just shut her out entirely (according to the foster mom) tells me all I need to.
Hopefully Floyd will get his sooner rather than later as well.
dynoguy88 07-11-2022, 11:10 PM I'm impressed that she was able to make it through high school, and presumably middle school before that, as functionally as she did, and had the emotional bandwidth to become the wonderful friend it sounded like she was.
Indeed. That's what struck me the most while reading the book. How she managed all those years growing up with the constant sexual abuse by a monster who was also playing a "father figure" to her and yet she was such a wonderful friend who seemed to have it completely all together when she was outside that trailer. She had the admiration of all her teachers. She got straight A's. This was a girl who dreamed of working for NASA!
One of the biggest 'what if' moments of the saga is the fact that she got a full ride scholarship to Georgia Tech. And when she was accepted, Floyd originally said, 'yes,' to her going. He even took out a whole page for her in her yearbook (as shown in the documentary) saying she was GT bound. But those plans all changed shortly later when she found out she was pregnant with Michael. Once that happened, college plans were scrapped and he forced her to become a stripper after giving birth to make income while he contributed nothing.
What if she hadn't gotten pregnant at that time? If she goes off to college in Atlanta (which is a 90 minute drive away) Floyd no longer has complete control over her 24 hours a day. He can't abuse her. She gets to be around normal people, build a friendship base with contacts and his grasp on her is significantly loosened. He can't have her wait on him daily and cook his meals like he always forced her to. He's stuck having to fend for himself. And I just can't picture that.
There's too many what if moments tied to this entire story. Too many instances that might have set a different course of events if she had asked for help. Very tragic. :(
JenniferS. 07-24-2022, 02:24 AM Last update I heard is they located missing brother of Susan. Floyd lied about killing him. Maybe he lied about Michael Hughes too.
drew790 07-25-2022, 11:27 AM I thought the part of the Netflix documentary with the former friend of Suzanne’s who criticized Suzanne’s Mom was kind of interesting. I thought I’d see what the rest of you thought about it. The friend herself was kidnapped as a child for five years, but was eventually found thanks in part to her mother who pretty much pounded the pavement constantly and did everything she could to keep her case in the public eye. Hence why she criticized Suzanne’s Mom. I’d post a clip, but I have no idea how to do so.
I thought that part was dumb. The police refused to get involved, and getting on TV was not an easy task. Happy it worked out for her and her mom but those opportunities are not equal, plentiful or guaranteed. Her mom was lucky.
drew790 07-25-2022, 11:31 AM Indeed. That's what struck me the most while reading the book. How she managed all those years growing up with the constant sexual abuse by a monster who was also playing a "father figure" to her and yet she was such a wonderful friend who seemed to have it completely all together when she was outside that trailer. She had the admiration of all her teachers. She got straight A's. This was a girl who dreamed of working for NASA!
One of the biggest 'what if' moments of the saga is the fact that she got a full ride scholarship to Georgia Tech. And when she was accepted, Floyd originally said, 'yes,' to her going. He even took out a whole page for her in her yearbook (as shown in the documentary) saying she was GT bound. But those plans all changed shortly later when she found out she was pregnant with Michael. Once that happened, college plans were scrapped and he forced her to become a stripper after giving birth to make income while he contributed nothing.
What if she hadn't gotten pregnant at that time? If she goes off to college in Atlanta (which is a 90 minute drive away) Floyd no longer has complete control over her 24 hours a day. He can't abuse her. She gets to be around normal people, build a friendship base with contacts and his grasp on her is significantly loosened. He can't have her wait on him daily and cook his meals like he always forced her to. He's stuck having to fend for himself. And I just can't picture that.
There's too many what if moments tied to this entire story. Too many instances that might have set a different course of events if she had asked for help. Very tragic. :(
Ad aside, I don't think he'd have let her go or be free.
"Who'd take care of daddy?" It's all about them.
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