There were some. What are some of your favorites? In the Cruising episode, a car full of girls rode past them and Tootie got excited and said, "A car full of girls!" And Natalie said, "I can see how we're a little confused here" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Delivery Man: I have an order of flowers here.

Tootie: Where did these flowers come from?

Delivery Man: Gee i don't know, there's a note.

Tootie: Who sent them?

Delivery Man: Geri Tyler. Haha, he must like one of you gals a lot.

Natalie: He's a SHE.

Delivery Man: Oh, well that's none of my business is it?


:lol: Oh the irony.

In the first episode, or one of the first ones from the first seasons, Blair criticized (oh, now the "tomboy's" name escapes me) for hugging another girl, saying that "People will think you're strange!"

Blair wasn't exactly saying it, but was definitely implied that the girl was a "lesbian".

Not Sue Ann, but what was that other girl's name? :confused: I've seen that episode so many times, and now I forget.

In the first episode, or one of the first ones from the first seasons, Blair criticized (oh, now the "tomboy's" name escapes me) for hugging another girl, saying that "People will think you're strange!"

Blair wasn't exactly saying it, but was definitely implied that the girl was a "lesbian".

Not Sue Ann, but what was that other girl's name? :confused: I've seen that episode so many times, and now I forget.
Cindy.

In the first episode, or one of the first ones from the first seasons, Blair criticized (oh, now the "tomboy's" name escapes me) for hugging another girl, saying that "People will think you're strange!"

Blair wasn't exactly saying it, but was definitely implied that the girl was a "lesbian".

Not Sue Ann, but what was that other girl's name? :confused: I've seen that episode so many times, and now I forget.

Mrs. G should have given her better advice. She should have told her that even if she was gay, then it's ok and there's nothing wrong with that.





Mrs. G: What are you gonna wear?

Ms. Mahoney: Nothing

Mrs. G: When you arrive, i don't wanna miss it.

:lol:

Mrs. G should have given her better advice. She should have told her that even if she was gay, then it's ok and there's nothing wrong with that.

The episode is from 1979, for Pete's sake. Times were different back then, and Mrs. G gave good advice for that time.

The episode is from 1979, for Pete's sake. Times were different back then, and Mrs. G gave good advice for that time.

What if she really was gay? And tried to hurt herself? It was BAD advice and that's MY OPINION.

What if she really was gay? And tried to hurt herself? It was BAD advice and that's MY OPINION.
WHY do you think she would ever want to physically harm herself? There was no evidence that Cindy was ever suicidal?
What is it about Mrs. G's advice that you find "bad"?

WHY do you think she would ever want to physically harm herself? There was no evidence that Cindy was ever suicidal?
What is it about Mrs. G's advice that you find "bad"?


I already told you why that advice was bad. What Mrs. G should have said that even if she was gay, then there's nothing wrong with that.

And that whole trying to make herself look feminine when the girl was a TOMBOY was also bad. Every girl doesn't desire to wear her hair down and wear a dress.

I already told you why that advice was bad. What Mrs. G should have said that even if she was gay, then there's nothing wrong with that.
Seeing as how Cindy was actually COMFORTED by Mrs. Garrett's advice.... it was helpful to her.....

Seeing as how Cindy was actually COMFORTED by Mrs. Garrett's advice.... it was helpful to her.....

Yea, she's lucky as hell she's not gay right? There are a ton of gay kids who wouldn't be comforted by that advice.....

Mrs. G's advice was way better when she was talking to Tootie in the episode, "Dear Me".

Yea, she's lucky as hell she's not gay right? There are a ton of gay kids who wouldn't be comforted by that advice.....

Mrs. G's advice was way better when she was talking to Tootie in the episode, "Dear Me".
If Cindy would have objected to Mrs. G's advice, Mrs. G would have listened, because she actually was caring. She did the best she could. It was 1979, for heaven's sake. That's like a world ago, in another time. That's what she knew. She did the best she could.
NOW it is 2016, so that advice for THIS TIME would be bad. But back then, Mrs. G gave a helpful heart and she loaned her shoulder and ears to Cindy. She meant no harm and she truly was trying to help.
Actually, she DID help, because Cindy WELCOMED the advice.

1979....... things were very different back then. I guess you don't realize that.

If Cindy would have objected to Mrs. G's advice, Mrs. G would have listened, because she actually was caring. She did the best she could. It was 1979, for heaven's sake. That's like a world ago, in another time. That's what she knew. She did the best she could.
NOW it is 2016, so that advice for THIS TIME would be bad. But back then, Mrs. G gave a helpful heart and she loaned her shoulder and ears to Cindy. She meant no harm and she truly was trying to help.
Actually, she DID help, because Cindy WELCOMED the advice.

1979....... things were very different back then. I guess you don't realize that.

Well by 1979 there were already several Gay Pride Civil Rights Wars going on, i.e. The Stonewall riots, Yes it was 1979, not 1929.

Well by 1979 there were already several Gay Pride Civil Rights Wars going on, i.e. The Stonewall riots, Yes it was 1979, not 1929.
I'm not understanding your point.
Cindy was not gay, so why are you even bringing this up? :confused:

I'm not understanding your point.
Cindy was not gay, so why are you even bringing this up? :confused:

Because it sends a bad message to gay kids who were watching that episode.

Because it sends a bad message to gay kids who were watching that episode.
I'd agree with you if Cindy was gay, but she wasn't, so I'm still not understanding your point.

I'd agree with you if Cindy was gay, but she wasn't, so I'm still not understanding your point.

So sending the message out there to gay girls who were watching the episode that you should wait until the right man comes along (which is basically what Mrs. G was saying) was good advice?

And how would Mrs. G know that Cindy wasn't gay? The girl clearly said that she wasn't interested in boys, but she liked girls. She could have easily been gay.

At 14 years old, you know what you like by then, Cindy said that she liked girls, not boys. Cindy welcoming that advice means nothing, it was still bad advice and let's not act like gay people aren't suffering in silence because they are trying to "fit in" and be "normal".

So sending the message out there to gay girls who were watching the episode that you should wait until the right man comes along (which is basically what Mrs. G was saying) was good advice?

And how would Mrs. G know that Cindy wasn't gay? The girl clearly said that she wasn't interested in boys, but she liked girls. She could have easily been gay.
Cindy was never portrayed as gay. She was portrayed as a tomboy. Mrs. Garrett gave advice to a tomboy, not a gay person.
You make no sense.
This was not a PSA for gay people.
The episode was about tomboys, not homosexuals.

Cindy was never portrayed as gay. She was portrayed as a tomboy. Mrs. Garrett gave advice to a tomboy, not a gay person.
You make no sense.
This was not a PSA for gay people.
The episode was about tomboys, not homosexuals.

Oh please! It's clear that the girl was questioning her sexuality!

Oh please! It's clear that the girl was questioning her sexuality!
And it's also clear that you are no better than Blair in that episode. Blair just assumed Cindy was "strange" and you just assume that she was gay. You should think before you stereotype someone.

BTW, Cindy never said she "liked girls." She said she was more comfortable around girls. Do you understand the difference?

Cindy was a tomboy. End of story.

And it's also clear that you are no better than Blair in that episode. Blair just assumed Cindy was "strange" and you just assume that she was gay. You should think before you stereotype someone.

BTW, Cindy never said she "liked girls." She said she was more comfortable around girls. Do you understand the difference?

Cindy was a tomboy. End of story.

Oh please! STRAIGHT TOMBOYS are like Sanna Lathan's character in Love & Basketball, Mary J Blige, and Coach Beiste from Glee!

Straight tomboys know that they like guys. Cindy didn't like GUYS! She liked girls!

Oh please! STRAIGHT TOMBOYS are like Sanna Lathan's character in Love & Basketball, Mary J Blige, and Coach Beiste from Glee!

Straight tomboys know that they like guys. Cindy didn't like GUYS! She liked girls!
Stereotyping much?

I'm through debating this with you.

You are just as bad as BLAIR as you stereotype and draw baseless conclusions.

END OF DEBATE.

Stereotyping much?

I'm through debating this with you.

You are just as bad as BLAIR as you stereotype and draw baseless conclusions.

END OF DEBATE.

How was I stereotyping? I gave you examples of STRAIGHT TOMBOYS and one of them is actually more masculine than Cindy and even Jo! But it's clear that they like guys!

Cindy was questioning her sexuality, yes, thanks largely to Blair for confusing her. It's clear at the end that Cindy likes guys too. She just didn't fully understand it before then, since she did admit before being attracted to Greg Hockney that guys made her "nervous", yet she's comfortable around girls (what heterosexual girls would say, and the opposite for heterosexual guys).

Blair: What's that music?

Jo: You're dreaming, there's music in your dream, I'M in your dream.

Blair: Will these nightmares never stop?

Jo: I'm leaving your dream now Blair.

Man in the Attic

Because it sends a bad message to gay kids who were watching that episode.

How many pre-teen children are so self-aware and articulate that they can say "I am (lesbian/gay)" at that stage with such resolute assurance?

And with cases of adults recognizing orientation later in life not due to "societal freedoms" but personal awareness or acceptance, which includes supposedly life-long gay people finding the opposite sex attractive in a 'under the covers' way (I've read issues going both ways)...

A good message to send might be to say "love the one you're with and be considerate of them". Is that not true for any one of any gender or orientation?

Cindy could have well been Transgender, but nobody talked about that back then.