After the Rams were forced to move back to LA, the St. Louis' NFL taxes are currently under siege. so St. Louis is accusing the NFL organization for that too fast abrupt change getting the Rams to move out of St. Louis leaving the whole city both without an NFL team and suffering with too many tax violations.

The only the way for St. Louis not to be isolated from NFL istuation and not to suffer tax violations is get a new NFL team ASAP!

I'd give it 5 years tops that St. Louis will get another team.

If so, this is how I may see the NFL...

AFC East

Buffalo Bills
Indianapolis Colts
Miami Dolphins
New England Patriots
New York Jets
Orlando Expansion Team


AFC Central

Baltimore Ravens
Cincinnati Bengals
Cleveland Browns
Jacksonville Jaguars
Pittsburgh Steelers
Tennessee Titans

AFC West

Denver Broncos
Houston Texans
Kansas City Chiefs
Los Angeles or Oakland Raiders
Los Angeles or San Diego Chargers
Portland Expansion Team or New Oakland Raiders



NFC East

Atlanta Falcons
Carolina Panthers
Dallas Cowboys
New York Giants
Philadelphia Eagles
Washington Redskins

NFC Central

Chicago Bears
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers
Minnesota Vikings
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
St. Louis Expansion Team

NFC West

Arizona Cardinals
Los Angeles Rams
New Orleans Saints
San Francisco 49ers
Seattle Seahawks
Hawaii Expansion Team

Well since if the Chargers stayput and the Raiders are forced to move away from the west coast, then you know what's going to happen next, MrCleveland...

Well since if the Chargers stayput and the Raiders are forced to move away from the west coast, then you know what's going to happen next, MrCleveland...

If the Raiders move to Los Angeles and Oakland wants their team back, I won't doubt that they'll do what the Charlotte Hornets and New Orleans Pelicans have done...

I think the Arizona Cardinals should move back to St. Louis to fill the void left by the Rams.

After the Rams were forced to move back to LA, the St. Louis' NFL taxes are currently under siege. so St. Louis is accusing the NFL organization for that too fast abrupt change getting the Rams to move out of St. Louis leaving the whole city both without an NFL team and suffering with too many tax violations.

The only the way for St. Louis not to be isolated from NFL istuation and not to suffer tax violations is get a new NFL team ASAP!

I don't know where you get this notion saying the Rams were "forced" to move to LA. Nobody forced them. The owner of the team submitted request with the NFL to relocate to LA, and request was granted.

I would also like to see the Cardinals leave Arizona and move back to St. Louis. If Arizona/Phoenix wants an NFL franchise, let them apply for an expansion team.

I don't know where you get this notion saying the Rams were "forced" to move to LA. Nobody forced them. The owner of the team submitted request with the NFL to relocate to LA, and request was granted.

I would also like to see the Cardinals leave Arizona and move back to St. Louis. If Arizona/Phoenix wants an NFL franchise, let them apply for an expansion team.

Rams' forced-relocation to LA situation more likely violated the Edward Jones Dome mortgage erratically and St. Louis desperately needs a new NFL team sometime in the future right away.

Secondly, even if the Raiders' heart is in Oakland, that does not mean that this type of heart may last permanently forever. Oakland is a bad place to have sports and also too close to San Francisco, which is kind of too compressing and loss of breathing air.

They almost had an expansion team but lost out to Charlotte & Jacksonville. At least I still have my Stallions cap.

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There's another optional NFL team that St. Louis needs, not to bring it up to the public, Cleveland Browns, IMO.

Rams' forced-relocation to LA situation more likely violated the Edward Jones Dome mortgage erratically and St. Louis desperately needs a new NFL team sometime in the future right away.

Secondly, even if the Raiders' heart is in Oakland, that does not mean that this type of heart may last permanently forever. Oakland is a bad place to have sports and also too close to San Francisco, which is kind of too compressing and loss of breathing air.

LOL, YOU seem to be the desperate one wanting so bad for St. Louis to have a new NFL team. The Rams were forced to relocate, yea right, if you want to believe that BS go ahead and keep fooling yourself. The Rams requested to leave St. Louis and the league granted them permission to move back to LA, which is where they always belonged in the first place.

Oakland is NOT a bad place to have sports, the coliseum needs to be replaced, that's what the issue is. The Raiders will play the 2016 season in Oakland, where they play after that is yet to be determined. I hope the stadium situation gets resolved and the Raiders stay in Oakland. If not, they'll play somewhere else. They left Oakland before, so it wouldn't be the first time.

LOL, YOU seem to be the desperate one wanting so bad for St. Louis to have a new NFL team. The Rams were forced to relocate, yea right, if you want to believe that BS go ahead and keep fooling yourself. The Rams requested to leave St. Louis and the league granted them permission to move back to LA, which is where they always belonged in the first place.

Oakland is NOT a bad place to have sports, the coliseum needs to be replaced, that's what the issue is. The Raiders will play the 2016 season in Oakland, where they play after that is yet to be determined. I hope the stadium situation gets resolved and the Raiders stay in Oakland. If not, they'll play somewhere else. They left Oakland before, so it wouldn't be the first time.

Oakland IS a bad place to have sports, even the coliseum needs to be replaced or not. I already what badly went wrong in the US west coast finances currently at the same time, but it will get resolved, of course not too soon, but not too late also. I know the Raiders will plays in Oakland for the next few seasons, but I doubt the stadium situation will get resolved and also doubt the Raiders would stayput in Oakland for the rest of their lives, due to that entire bad Oakland place. Even if they left Oakland before and wouldn't be the first time along the way, then they'll never know they will play somewhere else and stayput permanently there instead.

Either that, the Browns are going to forfeit their NFL experience officially and move to St. Louis instead.

the Browns are going to forfeit their NFL experience officially and move to St. Louis instead.

So now you think the Browns will leave Cleveland and move to St. Louis? OK, :lol: , we'll wait and see about that.

So now you think the Browns will leave Cleveland and move to St. Louis? OK, :lol: , we'll wait and see about that.

Look what's badly happened to the dog pound right now.

The NFL might as well take-over the Cleveland Clowns!

If they move to St. Louis...I won't even cry...they can even have the name since there was a baseball team named the St. Louis Browns!

The NFL might as well take-over the Cleveland Clowns!

If they move to St. Louis...I won't even cry...they can even have the name since there was a baseball team named the St. Louis Browns!

The Browns are a mess right now, but no reason to pack up and leave town, moving to another city won't fix their problems. It all starts at the top with management, they have to get their act together. St. Louis can be awarded an expansion team, or the Cardinals can leave Arizona and return to St. Louis. Either of those options would be acceptable to me.

And MrCleveland, here is something you might find interesting. I have a pro basketball game for my DOS computer (yes I still have a DOS computer :lol:) with several seasons from the recent past. I just finished playing the 1988-89 season, the whole thing regular season and playoffs. The finals ended up between the Cavs and Lakers, and the Cavs won the championship in 5 games. The 88-89 Cavs were a great team, Hot Rod Williams, Larry Nance, Brad Daugherty, Ron Harper, Mark Price, and solid bench. Anyhow, there is the Cleveland championship you've been waiting for. Generated by computer, but it's still a championship. :lol:

St. Louis already entered Super Bowl twice with their rams before the Rams moved back to LA. They won once at Atlanta against the Titans and lose once at New Orleans against the Patriots.

So that means St. Louis cannot forfeit their chances of getting another NFL team in the future. Even if St. Louis loses, they still cannot stop as chances continue to build and rebuild.