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Cori aka ChrisSCrush 09-06-2015, 04:04 PM With me, I have to say Resurrection Mary. Things really happened there on a regular basis for at least seventy years, regardless of whether what the UM segment portrayed really happened or whether the segment featured the most interesting aspects of the case. (I flipflopped on this one--used to believe the Jerry Palus story and scoff at the handprints on the metal gate bars, and now I feel the exact opposite. The likely scenario with Palus was some relatives picked up Mary briefly in a car--no dancing. Jerry, not wanting to be upstaged, borrowed aspects of another urban legend or ghost story which originated in upstate New York, making himself the center with Mary. The gate bar thing was totally real. Those bars are hidden in a secret vault replaced by poor imitations in the gate.) UM spent a lot of time on Jerry, who was not even still alive to be cross-examined, and didn't mention people like the police officer who ran her over and should certainly be a much more credible witness! (She has been seen more by police than possibly any others, yet only one spoke out publicly and he got into a lot of trouble over it.)
UM was not allowed to film at the real place, which won't allow any filming or conversation regarding it. This is not because their religion forbids such things, but, a local has claimed, because publicity always brings out a lot of yahoos resulting in vandalism. You can't get near the place on Halloween!
Also, the Magic Rock. Although I can't claim to have had too many good moments in life since 1972, 1988 when this aired was a particularly low point. In fact, the segment got me into some trouble, as I taped it. When my friend and his sister came over, I wanted to show it to them and had only minutes as they came at the worst possible time, right when I had to leave on my paper route. (My delivering papers as an adult is one sign I was having a bad spell!) My dad wouldn't shut up so I could show the damn tape or take a hint, but kept talking to my friends until I snapped at him. They took some version of this to their dad, who then lectured me and insulted my photography which I had taken to show him. At that point I decided never to pursue photography professionally because I was already miserable about enough things, so why ruin a perfectly good hobby? So either the rock saved me a lifetime of trouble and frustration if the photography was not meant to work out, or it did me a bad turn if I might have successfully pursued photography.
I can't express how vital the rock seemed when this segment aired as it offered hope that positive accessible forces in the universe might exist. Not that I exactly believed a magic object could solve all my problems, but to even find anything to start things moving in the right direction would be fantastic! For a long time I was a great believer in magic, good and bad, as I had absolutely no logical explanation for why my life went as it did. By the time I received a sound, valid, natural explanation, my life was so far down the tubes there was no redeeming it. One corner of my mind still sort of believes in magic and I am inclined to go looking for that rock or something like it! (All I know is it is somewhere in my state, but they never said where, and I am at the bottom of the state while the rock, if still there, is at the top. Does anyone know the present location of the rock?) Now, those people taken in by gypsies offering to lift curses and the like were pretty silly, but considering my own outlook I cannot be entirely out of sympathy.
"It has all the aspects of nature."
neognosis 09-06-2015, 05:45 PM Resurrection Mary is a ghost. lot of haters here :(
DALLASTEXAN!! 09-06-2015, 05:49 PM I'm a fan of the ghost segments. When I was a kid a believed it. Now I just people watch in those segments. Some are strange and better than others. Other ones are just laughable and make me wonder if these people just weren't looking for their 15 mins of fame in a pre YouTube/social media world. Some things never change.
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 09-06-2015, 08:51 PM Resurrection Mary is a ghost. lot of haters here :(
Yes, it seems some people hate, disbelieve, or both, all paranormal segments despite that some depend on the word of only a few questionable people while others have hundreds of reliable witnesses relating the same details. Even if a few Jerry Paluses embellish a bit does not render the rest untrue.
WishfulDreamer 09-06-2015, 10:25 PM I love the Magic Rock segment. It's a feel-good break from crimes and sad UM moments. I don't believe the rock gave them all the good fortune, but I think after the first good luck incident there may have been a placebo impact on the family's confidence. I hope they're doing well today.
It is fun to think of "magic" and all the interesting artifacts nestled in the woods.
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 09-06-2015, 11:02 PM I love the Magic Rock segment. It's a feel-good break from crimes and sad UM moments. I don't believe the rock gave them all the good fortune, but I think after the first good luck incident there may have been a placebo impact on the family's confidence. I hope they're doing well today.
It is fun to think of "magic" and all the interesting artifacts nestled in the woods.
Glad someone else likes the Magic Rock! Actually I am about 45% serious and 55% joking on the subject. I realize there are a lot of scammy deals out there such as the psychic surgery, but I can't help hoping that some unexplained paths to good fortune exist.
WishfulDreamer 09-07-2015, 12:06 AM Glad someone else likes the Magic Rock! Actually I am about 45% serious and 55% joking on the subject. I realize there are a lot of scammy deals out there such as the psychic surgery, but I can't help hoping that some unexplained paths to good fortune exist.
Same here. Even if it defies rationality, I love the thought of it, too. :D
The segment is so whimsical and enjoyable to me I never skip it. I love seeing a family getting out of a rut and enjoying success.
Even if the line "it has all the aspects of nature" is hilariously cheesy. :lol:
Charlie99909 09-07-2015, 01:20 AM Aphrodisiacs.
WishfulDreamer 09-07-2015, 01:55 AM Aphrodisiacs.
This is a guilty pleasure segment for me. :lol:
DALLASTEXAN!! 09-07-2015, 08:05 AM Haha
TheCars1986 09-07-2015, 09:55 AM I've always been fond of the western legend segments on UM, even though they don't get much discussion around here. Always liked the Billy the Kid, Butch Cassidy, and treasure segments. Even though the Butch Cassidy claimant, William T. Phillips, has since been proven to be a fraud, it's still an interesting segment nonetheless.
BlueGalexy 09-08-2015, 05:54 PM I've always been fond of the western legend segments on UM, even though they don't get much discussion around here. Always liked the Billy the Kid, Butch Cassidy, and treasure segments. Even though the Butch Cassidy claimant, William T. Phillips, has since been proven to be a fraud, it's still an interesting segment nonetheless.
I'm with Cars on the treasure hunt segments. I've always loved a good legend and subsequent treasure hunt...still do to this day.
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 09-09-2015, 12:14 AM I've always been fond of the western legend segments on UM, even though they don't get much discussion around here. Always liked the Billy the Kid, Butch Cassidy, and treasure segments. Even though the Butch Cassidy claimant, William T. Phillips, has since been proven to be a fraud, it's still an interesting segment nonetheless.
Yeah, but I remember at the end of one--I think it was the Lost Dutchman mine--when Stack said, "If you have any information," we burst out laughing. Like anyone watching was gonna know! :lol:
DazzlerSparkler 09-09-2015, 11:54 PM Agatha Christie. Idk idk I thought it was an interesting period piece.
RobinW 09-10-2015, 07:22 AM Rainboy. I know this segment gets mocked here a lot and it seems pretty ludicrous on the surface, but I can't over the fact that so many witnesses, including some police officers, a warden and a priest, were willing to go on camera and claim they saw these things.
Even if the whole story was a hoax, I'd still find the segment absolutely fascinating, if only for the sight of so many credible people treating this absurd story with such seriousness on national television.
dynoguy88 09-10-2015, 11:51 AM It's been a loooooong time since I've seen the magic rock segment but I remember enjoying it as a kid.
I often felt like I was alone in liking the lost love segments given the complaints I've read over the years in regards to them. I'm a softy in this department. The reunions were the rare opportunity on this show where people got to have some happiness back in their lives and I loved every second of them.
SPD Yellow 09-10-2015, 06:14 PM I know a lot of people find Philip Pauli (from one of the genius kid segments) to be an irritating know-it-all, but I always had a soft spot for him. I'm probably not a genius, but I'm like him in a lot of ways in that I was a bookish kid who read a lot and had anxieties about the future. Heck, I still read a lot and have anxieties about the future. I also sympathize with him, because I, despite being very bright, have atrocious social skills and don't always realize how I come off towards people. I always hope that Philip Pauli, as he got a little older, eventually mellowed out somewhat. Hey, us brainy social misfits have to stick together, preferably separated and while in our own homes. :)
rhzunam 09-11-2015, 01:34 AM I like the ghost segments and I liked the one of the Mann House. Some part of it were really stupid but the part where he was sleeping and saw that figure was cool to me then and now.
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 09-11-2015, 03:32 AM I know a lot of people find Philip Pauli (from one of the genius kid segments) to be an irritating know-it-all, but I always had a soft spot for him. I'm probably not a genius, but I'm like him in a lot of ways in that I was a bookish kid who read a lot and had anxieties about the future. Heck, I still read a lot and have anxieties about the future. I also sympathize with him, because I, despite being very bright, have atrocious social skills and don't always realize how I come off towards people. I always hope that Philip Pauli, as he got a little older, eventually mellowed out somewhat. Hey, us brainy social misfits have to stick together, preferably separated and while in our own homes. :)
Have you read up on Asperger's Syndrome?
soilentgreen 09-11-2015, 11:38 AM It doesn't get discussed as much as the Freedon or the Sara Jo, but one of my favorite segments is about the catamaran Antigua and the two men sailing her. With the cop pulling over the two men he believed to be Hernas and Yves Emmanuel and the alleged sightings of the boat on the Intracoastal waterway, it's hard to theorize if it was simply lost off the coast during the Perfect Storm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Perfect_Storm) or if the men were abducted and the boat stolen.
SPD Yellow 09-11-2015, 06:15 PM Have you read up on Asperger's Syndrome?
Yeah, my brother was diagnosed with it and my Counselor thinks I might have it as well. I'm not opposed to said diagnosis--she can call me whatever she likes so long as I get to see her and get my meds--but it's weird thinking of myself as having it. My brother, I can definitely see in that he's always had atrocious social skills, but I didn't really start to struggle until sixth grade. Elementary School, it was easier to talk to people--you both like Power Rangers and playing on the swings, start from there--but Middle School...it's like everyone had a big meeting and decided, "Okay, this is how it's going to be from here on out and whatever do, don't let SPD Yellow in on it." Because the rules changed overnight and I never recovered. But I find myself thinking that I'm not sure Asperger's is something that kicks in at puberty.
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 09-12-2015, 02:40 AM Yeah, my brother was diagnosed with it and my Counselor thinks I might have it as well. I'm not opposed to said diagnosis--she can call me whatever she likes so long as I get to see her and get my meds--but it's weird thinking of myself as having it. My brother, I can definitely see in that he's always had atrocious social skills, but I didn't really start to struggle until sixth grade. Elementary School, it was easier to talk to people--you both like Power Rangers and playing on the swings, start from there--but Middle School...it's like everyone had a big meeting and decided, "Okay, this is how it's going to be from here on out and whatever do, don't let SPD Yellow in on it." Because the rules changed overnight and I never recovered. But I find myself thinking that I'm not sure Asperger's is something that kicks in at puberty.
You just described a textbook case. Asperger's Syndrome begins at birth but often does not surface or at least become vital until around age 11 (Fifth or Sixth grade). I experienced the exact same thing, the rules changing overnight from which I never recovered. In Fourth Grade I was popular, by Fifth, I was a train wreck. Nothing was good until Senior Year in high school, by which time all the kids who were troublesome in grade school and Jr. High had either dropped out or considerably improved. As a result I am able to enjoy class reunions, but if people remained like they were when younger, although my class was good in comparison to many, in large part forget it.
At the time this started, I believed something was up that everyone or almost everyone was in on but me. I believed my problems at school were caused by my sisters, who were constantly harping on one thing or another concerning me and must have told their friends, "Anyone who wants to be in the cool crowd, don't be nice to Cori." Those people then passed it on to their friends, and in a small school, such a pronouncement would spread fast--my sisters would not have to speak to each individual. Once in awhile I received explanations but none which made sense.
I believed this for four years until I got a chance to attend high school in another state where no one had ever met anyone who knew me, therefore no one could spread stories or tell anyone not to like me. I was floored to find myself if anything treated worse, but convinced myself the school was largely populated by spoiled rich snots (a not entirely inaccurate assessment), but I missed that my treatment at the two schools might be related in any way and ascribed them to entirely different reasons. The story was pretty much the same at a third school so I had plenty of chance to compare environments.
I continued for twenty-eight more years thinking I was almost continually in the wrong place with the wrong people but if I played my cards right things would improve. My one sister kept saying there was "something wrong" with me but I thought she merely suffered from an overactive imagination, a warped sense of humor, or both, and blew it off until she showed me a list of Asperger's characteristics. Since then my life has been a slow devolvement from shock to disillusion to utter despair as hope faltered and was crushed. I have great skills (such as a memory enabling me to recall TV shows I saw 30 or 40 years ago) but haven't been able to figure out how to be paid for anything I am actually able to do!
Learning about AS was like those people who have a missing loved one. All they want is an answer, until it is determined that the loved one is dead, then they kind of wish they didn't know after all.
Really maddening, so I wish you the best!
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 09-12-2015, 03:42 PM In keeping with the topic, as far as my interest in the paranormal cases, that started in early childhood, years before I suspected a problem, but later experiences only increased it. When things happen for which there is apparently no rational or logical explanation the mind does tend to fly to paranormal possibilities compared to which logical explanations are often profoundly disappointing! That is, when I attended two schools where no one knew my sisters*, so whatever was going on couldn't have been due to them--and the first school was bad and the second was worse--that was when I began to strongly believe in jinxes and curses, continued to do so for about five years, and it became so ingrained I have never completely shaken it, including beliefs in opposite forces--hence the rock!
*In the interests of total accuracy, we had friends and relatives at the second school, so technically people had met my sisters, but they had no prolonged contact or undue influence with anyone there.
DALLASTEXAN!! 06-05-2021, 02:32 PM bumping this thread.
The grey man ghost story has become somewhat of a guilty pleasure/comfort segment for me. I really like the feel good love story and the production of the segment. I also adore the older couple that was featured towards then end when they talk about Hurricane Hugo.
Overall that entire episode from Filmrise, is one of my favorite and is good to watch when I just want to relax and relive nostalgia. I usually fall asleep by the time I get to the golden psychic part. Although the David Stone disappearance is very sad and confusing, it is definitely one of the more popular and classic UM segments for me and makes me want to go to that area of New Mexico to look for David.
bell83 06-05-2021, 03:26 PM When I saw the name of this thread, all I could think of was OnlyFans and I was like
"Uhhhhhhhh......................does the SCA president have an OF?"
DALLASTEXAN!! 06-05-2021, 04:55 PM When I saw the name of this thread, all I could think of was OnlyFans and I was like
"Uhhhhhhhh......................does the SCA president have an OF?"
no way, magic rock, fertility statues, and aphrodisiacs aside, this is a family friendly, yet guilty pleasure, thread :lol:
mozartpc27 06-05-2021, 09:20 PM Message in a bottle
bell83 06-06-2021, 01:24 AM no way, magic rock, fertility statues, and aphrodisiacs aside, this is a family friendly, yet guilty pleasure, thread :lol:
:lol:
TheCars1986 06-07-2021, 10:52 AM The Kristi Gunderson Lee segment doesn't get the discussion it deserves, IMO.
The Kristi Gunderson Lee segment doesn't get the discussion it deserves, IMO.
I see it on the missing segment list. I don't recall if I have ever seen it
Labonte18 06-07-2021, 01:00 PM I'm not sure where I stand on the hauntings/ghost/paranormal segments. I mean, some of them are entertaining.. Do I buy them? Not really. "Rain Man". That was.. Very interesting, but.. I don't buy it.
Mothman and that style.. Ugh.
I've been watching alot of the Buzzfeed Unsolved Supernatural lately. Again, don't buy a lick of them, but they're entertaining to watch.
ChandlerMurielB1 06-07-2021, 01:38 PM I like the coin scam segment because it's funny
PortoMarco 06-07-2021, 01:55 PM I think I'm the only fan of L'Enfant :(
Nobody seems willing to provide me with the segment :( Loved it so much.
bell83 06-07-2021, 02:20 PM I think I'm the only fan of L'Enfant :(
Nobody seems willing to provide me with the segment :( Loved it so much.
I liked it. But it's easily been at least 12-15 years since I've seen it.
bell83 06-07-2021, 02:21 PM It contained one of my favorite scenes, ever. When the nurse is like "Oh, BTW, L'Enfant called for you." :lol:
DALLASTEXAN!! 06-07-2021, 05:57 PM It contained one of my favorite scenes, ever. When the nurse is like "Oh, BTW, L'Enfant called for you." :lol:
for sure, it was one of the most "unintentional funny" moments and I'm quite sure that it triggered a lot of posts in that thread.
wackerstack 06-08-2021, 06:25 PM I think I'm the only fan of L'Enfant :(
Nobody seems willing to provide me with the segment :( Loved it so much.
As presented, it's quite terrifying, but it does seem improbable that the harassment could have been that extreme. You never know...
The segment is on disc 2 of the old compilation one of this forum's awesome members put together years ago, if that helps at all?
LooksLikeCRicci 06-08-2021, 09:41 PM Rainboy is also a favorite of mine.
I have a soft spot for the woman looking for her dad, who turned out to be Duncan, quite possibly the sweetest man alive.
Ms Nevenka 06-11-2021, 11:11 AM It’s probably mostly nostalgia because I remember watching it when it first aired, but I have a huge soft spot for the General Wayne Inn segment. Everything from the ghostly disembodied head, the TV screen picture doing a 180, to the bartender laughing at the flirtatious ghost’s antics. That segment just makes me feel good inside.
Ms Nevenka 06-11-2021, 11:14 AM Rainboy is also a favorite of mine.
I have a soft spot for the woman looking for her dad, who turned out to be Duncan, quite possibly the sweetest man alive.
Rainboy segment was so much fun, and the actor who portrayed him was so pretty (those cheekbones!).
Sweet Duncan, I admit I have a bit of a crush on him. Such a kind and genuine guy.
spaceace 06-16-2021, 12:51 PM The Yeti segment with Peter Byrne. Even though I don't believe they exist, that segment is well produced and acted. I just saw it again on Pluto TV.
bell83 06-16-2021, 04:50 PM The Yeti segment with Peter Byrne. Even though I don't believe they exist, that segment is well produced and acted.
I can get behind that.
MegtheEgg86 06-18-2021, 09:14 PM I am the Paul Ferrell queen.
WishfulDreamer 06-19-2021, 06:49 PM I am the Paul Ferrell queen.
I only very recently got to see this one and I really enjoyed it as well. I put it in the thread about the case but I love Stack's narration when Paul makes another dumb move: "But Paul says it was JUST another stupid mistake." :lol:
It's a huge shame that Cathy Ford was never found, though.
There's no Stack segment available online for Paul Ferrell, so I watched the Farina version. There may be a convincing argument for his innocence for all I know, but if that's the case, it was not presented in the segment
TheCars1986 06-21-2021, 08:26 AM It's a huge shame that Cathy Ford was never found, though.
I totally forgot that she has never been found. That's really sad. Ferrell should have had to reveal where he buried her before he was paroled.
WishfulDreamer 06-26-2021, 02:43 PM There's no Stack segment available online for Paul Ferrell, so I watched the Farina version. There may be a convincing argument for his innocence for all I know, but if that's the case, it was not presented in the segment
Haven't seen the Farina one, but in the Stack version, here's what he had "going for him":
1) Cathy was never found (so no proof she was dead)
2) Some of the prosecutor's witnesses claim they were coerced/words were put in their mouths
3) Eyewitnesses claim they saw Cathy working at another restaurant in a nearby town
To me, this really wasn't convincing at all.
Paul "found" Cathy's car on his property and claims he didn't want to say anything because "there might have been a body in there and he didn't want people to think he did it." Um, what innocent person wouldn't report the find and try to help put an end to the search, especially if you knew and liked this person? Hiding the find of a missing person's car on your own property is not indicative of an innocent person. Even if we play devil's advocate that someone tried to frame him by putting the car there, had he truly been innocent, it would have been far more likely that he would report the find.
His obscene phone calls don't make him guilty, but they definitely illustrate his character.
As for the sighting of Cathy, I believe it was 100% mistaken identity. If Cathy Ford actually ran away/left willingly because she was unhappy working in her family's restaurant, why on Earth would she go to a nearby town and start working in another restaurant? Not only would it be the same job, but being so nearby would have you bound to be sighted by someone you knew, so uh, maybe working in a plain sight job wouldn't be such an ideal choice.:lol:
cuba_libre 06-28-2021, 03:55 PM Tara Breckinridge
Hiding the find of a missing person's car on your own property is not indicative of an innocent person. Even if we play devil's advocate that someone tried to frame him by putting the car there, had he truly been innocent, it would have been far more likely that he would report the find.
In either case he deliberately obstructed evidence - either by lying about the car, or finding the car and keeping quiet about it. That makes the whole "innocent man railroaded by the court system" argument a tough sell
TheCars1986 06-29-2021, 07:24 AM In either case he deliberately obstructed evidence - either by lying about the car, or finding the car and keeping quiet about it. That makes the whole "innocent man railroaded by the court system" argument a tough sell
MegTheEgg shared a series of articles a couple of years ago about Ferrell written by Martin Yant (the journalist interviewed in the segment) and it presented a much more convincing case of Ferrell potentially being innocent and/or railroaded than the UM segment did. I still think he's guilty as sin, but there were some things that were never mentioned on UM (the potential involvement of Cathy Ford's boyfriend for example) that made me think twice.
rerungirl 07-01-2021, 12:49 PM I don't know if anyone actually dislikes this segment, but I couldn't find any discussion about it. It was first shown in 1989 and pops up once in awhile in reruns. From 1936 to 1952, a man using the name George J. Stein made several deposits in banks in Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin. He never came back to get any of the money and no one is sure about his true identity. There was a travelling salesman named George Stein who had a sales route through those states during the time the deposits were made. But the name Ed Fay was written on one of the deposit envelopes, leading to speculation that the man could have actually been Fay, a fairly well known bank robber in the Midwest. I'm from Indiana, so maybe that's the reason I like the segment so much. But I also like the mystery of it. To this day no one knows for sure who he was. I guess there's even a chance he wasn't either Stein or Fay and took that knowledge to his grave.
Oliver the Chimpanzee is a pretty damn funny segment, some of it unintentionally
I felt bad for Robert Stack when he had to read the line "the offspring of an unspeakable union between human and chimpanzee?" I'd bet he hated saying that but it's hilarious :lol:
Janel "Jaycee" Miller 07-08-2021, 09:42 PM I don't know if I am the only fan of the Michael Rosenbaum and the John Russell/John Dozier segments, but it would be way cool to get some new details on those.
ghosthouse 07-09-2021, 07:53 AM I don't know if I am the only fan of the Michael Rosenbaum and the John Russell/John Dozier segments, but it would be way cool to get some new details on those.
I think both of those segments are really good, esp the Russell/Dozier segment.
I'd hate to say never, considering how multiple old cases have had huge updates in the last year alone, but IDK that either of those can/will be solved soon.
My best guess based on what I've read is that Michael Rosenbaum was probably roughed up/killed by cops that came upon his car accident. Russell and Dozier killed Tomlin and maybe the wife down the line. I guess they are in jail but not talking?
Janel "Jaycee" Miller 07-10-2021, 09:06 PM I Russell and Dozier killed Tomlin and maybe the wife down the line. I guess they are in jail but not talking?
I think Russell and Dozier are free. That said, they could also have died from old age by now.
VHSJunkie 07-11-2021, 03:25 AM George Owens case,how they were never able to find any hiers
UMFan1981 11-18-2021, 06:20 AM Count me in as another who liked the Resurrection Mary storyline. In fact, I was quite enchanted by it
For that matter, I quite like most of the paranormal/supernatural cases. Although I'm a bit of a scaredy cat, I do love a good ghost story or story about the afterlife so perhaps that's why. I get a bit impatient with some (although not all) of the psychics and people who claim to have special powers, though
I also enjoy many of the pilgrimage stories -Lourdes, Medjugorje, etc. Perhaps because as a person of faith (although not a Catholic), they speak to me in some way
ChandlerMurielB1 12-10-2021, 07:24 AM The maternity statues
Accordion lesson fraud
VHSJunkie 12-10-2021, 08:18 PM Walter Rice segment and I think they never found any heirs so the money from his estate become state property. I think even websleuths have never been able to find further information on him,its speculated he was in witness protection program.
The case of Deloris Brooks trying to find her long lost teacher Madeline Struass. I have never been able to find further information on neither.
dynoguy88 12-13-2021, 11:16 AM Count me in as another who liked the Resurrection Mary storyline. In fact, I was quite enchanted by it
The story itself is one of the more memorable ghost stories. The way that segment became sort of a punchline around here was because there was a time that Lifetime waaaaay overplayed it. The show had 12 seasons worth of content yet for the longest time, they seemed to focus on just two seasons and it got to the point where if felt like Resurrection Mary was being played on a loop. It was a little ridiculous.
Hambone2421 05-23-2022, 03:02 PM I don't know if anyone actually dislikes this segment, but I couldn't find any discussion about it. It was first shown in 1989 and pops up once in awhile in reruns. From 1936 to 1952, a man using the name George J. Stein made several deposits in banks in Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin. He never came back to get any of the money and no one is sure about his true identity. There was a travelling salesman named George Stein who had a sales route through those states during the time the deposits were made. But the name Ed Fay was written on one of the deposit envelopes, leading to speculation that the man could have actually been Fay, a fairly well known bank robber in the Midwest. I'm from Indiana, so maybe that's the reason I like the segment so much. But I also like the mystery of it. To this day no one knows for sure who he was. I guess there's even a chance he wasn't either Stein or Fay and took that knowledge to his grave.
This was always one of my favorite segments. It was a story that I felt they could have made a movie out of. The entire story was so full of mystery and had a few different outcomes that each made sense. It sucks that they never had any kind of resolution to this case.
GyorkLady 05-23-2022, 05:59 PM I often felt like I was alone in liking the lost love segments given the complaints I've read over the years in regards to them. I'm a softy in this department. The reunions were the rare opportunity on this show where people got to have some happiness back in their lives and I loved every second of them.
The lost love segments are some of my favorites too, even the ones that don't have updates. One of my favorites is the case of Kim Schad, the lady looking for her two friends from a Vietnamese orphanage. I was so disappointed when I watched the segment on Amazon and there was no update; I hope it's because her family hasn't shared anything with UM and not because Kim never found her friends.
Speaking of the lost love cases, I feel like I am the only person on this site who doesn't hate the Jim Boumgarden segment. But it's more of a personal thing for me - his family is from my hometown, and Jim's son and I were classmates in school.
I'm also a big fan of the unexplained segments, but more the paranormal than unexplained phenomena or UFOs. The only UFO segment I like is the Kecksburg UFO; it's the first one I remember watching on UM.
Hambone2421 05-24-2022, 12:05 PM Speaking of the lost love cases, I feel like I am the only person on this site who doesn't hate the Jim Boumgarden segment. But it's more of a personal thing for me - his family is from my hometown, and Jim's son and I were classmates in school.
Is he the man that supposedly had a near identical twin living in the same town as him?
GyorkLady 05-25-2022, 07:28 PM Is he the man that supposedly had a near identical twin living in the same town as him?
Not in the same town, but in the area; most of the encounters took place in other towns surrounding our town.
Sewan23 05-26-2022, 07:09 AM I enjoy the Agatha Christie segment (Frankly I think she simply disappeared to get back at her philandering husband).
Although debunked, I also enjoy the Anna Anderson/Anastasia segment, too.
Corkys-Place 05-28-2022, 02:04 AM Even though the entire thing was was apparently a load of fabricated rubbish, I always liked the Gulf Breeze UFO segment(s).
Although obviously staged, I always found the photograph of the UFO hovering directly above the road at dusk quite unnerving as a child.
ChandlerMurielB1 08-02-2025, 02:05 PM Golden Buddha/ Roger Roxas segment
Killarney Rose 08-02-2025, 04:28 PM The lost love segments are some of my favorites too, even the ones that don't have updates. One of my favorites is the case of Kim Schad, the lady looking for her two friends from a Vietnamese orphanage. I was so disappointed when I watched the segment on Amazon and there was no update; I hope it's because her family hasn't shared anything with UM and not because Kim never found her friends.
Speaking of the lost love cases, I feel like I am the only person on this site who doesn't hate the Jim Boumgarden segment. But it's more of a personal thing for me - his family is from my hometown, and Jim's son and I were classmates in school.
I'm also a big fan of the unexplained segments, but more the paranormal than unexplained phenomena or UFOs. The only UFO segment I like is the Kecksburg UFO; it's the first one I remember watching on UM.
I liked Jim, too. I was disappointed that he never found his twin.
tvscript124 08-02-2025, 05:01 PM The lost love segments are some of my favorites too, even the ones that don't have updates. One of my favorites is the case of Kim Schad, the lady looking for her two friends from a Vietnamese orphanage. I was so disappointed when I watched the segment on Amazon and there was no update; I hope it's because her family hasn't shared anything with UM and not because Kim never found her friends.
Speaking of the lost love cases, I feel like I am the only person on this site who doesn't hate the Jim Boumgarden segment. But it's more of a personal thing for me - his family is from my hometown, and Jim's son and I were classmates in school.
I'm also a big fan of the unexplained segments, but more the paranormal than unexplained phenomena or UFOs. The only UFO segment I like is the Kecksburg UFO; it's the first one I remember watching on UM.
I like the ghost and lost loves segments. The treasure segments are OK (like the Alamo or Victorio Peak), but not my favorites.
MegtheEgg86 08-03-2025, 07:37 AM I always liked the Clay Taylor segment. He was caught in 2016, but even prior to that there was hardly any discussion about the case.
I also like the Gulf Breeze segment and update. You know Ed is full of baloney but the original segment is such classic UM. Furthermore, it's nice to see Ed get taken to task for it in the update.
I also like the Beale Ciphers segment; those old dudes sitting around heckling and the backhoe operator crack me up.
WishfulDreamer 08-03-2025, 12:16 PM I always liked the Clay Taylor segment. He was caught in 2016, but even prior to that there was hardly any discussion about the case.
I also like the Gulf Breeze segment and update. You know Ed is full of baloney but the original segment is such classic UM. Furthermore, it's nice to see Ed get taken to task for it in the update.
These two are totally underrated! The Clay Taylor segment has some great reenactments. I find Gulf Breeze one of my comfort segments for the great music (and I laugh so much at the model UFO being found in the attic. Ah, the classic "They just put that there to make me look bad!" excuse from Ed :lol:)
MayorofMedford 08-04-2025, 05:01 PM I always liked the Clay Taylor segment. He was caught in 2016, but even prior to that there was hardly any discussion about the case.
I also like the Gulf Breeze segment and update. You know Ed is full of baloney but the original segment is such classic UM. Furthermore, it's nice to see Ed get taken to task for it in the update.
I also like the Beale Ciphers segment; those old dudes sitting around heckling and the backhoe operator crack me up.
Also a fan of the Beale Ciphers. I didn't enjoy all of the treasure stories but this one and Doc Nauss/Victorio Peak were pretty good. The Victorio Peak one has some pretty "amazing" acting throughout, too. ;)
And yeah... I don't pass up Magic Rock, either. It's corny, the acting is terrible and it's not terribly believable but it's just a good story. Also, the fact the theatre the family acquired was showing "Willow" is peak mid-late '80's.
I've never seen a Lost Heirs segment I didn't like. The stories of these mostly random people are interesting in their own right, let along whatever material goods they leave behind after they pass away. Among my personal favourites: Charlie Scheel, Curly Green, Howard Drummond and everyone's favourite nasty piece of work, Dorothea Allen.
TheCars1986 08-05-2025, 07:19 AM Kristie Gunderson Lee is one of my favorite UM segments, but it doesn't really get much discussion on here.
tvscript124 08-05-2025, 06:43 PM Golden Buddha/ Roger Roxas segment
Me too, because of the torture and pain Roger Roxas went through, and still stuck by his story and told it on UM.
tvscript124 08-05-2025, 06:46 PM I enjoy the Agatha Christie segment (Frankly I think she simply disappeared to get back at her philandering husband).
Although debunked, I also enjoy the Anna Anderson/Anastasia segment, too.
I really liked the Agatha Christie segment. If you read her novels, and especially her collected Hercule Poirot stories (which I am doing right now), her characters knew how to...
a) feign amnesia
b) throw people off their trail (except Poirot and Miss Marple were always one step ahead)
c) disguise themselves, take on different identities
d) hide in plain sight
So yes, I think she did it to torture her cheating husband.
DALLASTEXAN!! 08-05-2025, 10:08 PM I really liked the Agatha Christie segment. If you read her novels, and especially her collected Hercule Poirot stories (which I am doing right now), her characters knew how to...
a) feign amnesia
b) throw people off their trail (except Poirot and Miss Marple were always one step ahead)
c) disguise themselves, take on different identities
d) hide in plain sight
So yes, I think she did it to torture her cheating husband.
when I first saw that segment I didn't like it. but now it is one of my favorite segments.
MegtheEgg86 08-05-2025, 10:25 PM Also a fan of the Beale Ciphers. I didn't enjoy all of the treasure stories but this one and Doc Nauss/Victorio Peak were pretty good. The Victorio Peak one has some pretty "amazing" acting throughout, too. ;)
I also enjoyed the Victorio Peak segment! So much so that I actually ended up reading What Men Call Treasure because I found Babe in particular to be such a fascinating character that I just had to know more about her. Ended up being a pretty good book, although I came away from it somewhat convinced Doc basically put on a huge con.
I've never seen a Lost Heirs segment I didn't like. The stories of these mostly random people are interesting in their own right, let along whatever material goods they leave behind after they pass away. Among my personal favourites: Charlie Scheel, Curly Green, Howard Drummond and everyone's favourite nasty piece of work, Dorothea Allen.
Love Howard Drummond and the people interviewed who knew him, like the gentleman at the YMCA and the lady at the post office. Curly Green might be my favorite segment of all the Lost Heirs, though. It's one I can put on and immediately feel comforted, which is not something you can say about most UM segments. :lol:
MegtheEgg86 08-05-2025, 10:31 PM when I first saw that segment I didn't like it. but now it is one of my favorite segments.
It's a really interesting segment simply because the actual mystery doesn't actually involve grave subject matter. It's not like an unsolved murder or a missing person. It only concerns a famous author who did some super weird things over the course of a few days, but those weird things are interesting enough in and of themselves to still make for a good story and a great segment. I really liked the acting and the ambiance throughout.
tvscript124 08-08-2025, 08:56 PM It's a really interesting segment simply because the actual mystery doesn't actually involve grave subject matter. It's not like an unsolved murder or a missing person. It only concerns a famous author who did some super weird things over the course of a few days, but those weird things are interesting enough in and of themselves to still make for a good story and a great segment. I really liked the acting and the ambiance throughout.
It was like a BBC production!
WishfulDreamer 08-09-2025, 12:49 PM It was like a BBC production!
One of my absolute favorite segments. I especially love the part of her in bed reading the newspaper and enjoying that her husband is under suspicion :lol:
tvscript124 08-09-2025, 02:36 PM One of my absolute favorite segments. I especially love the part of her in bed reading the newspaper and enjoying that her husband is under suspicion :lol:
Just like one of her characters...the sympathetic kind. M'sieur Poirot or Miss Marple would, of course, have seen through the performance within minutes.
MayorofMedford 08-10-2025, 05:31 PM I also enjoyed the Victorio Peak segment! So much so that I actually ended up reading What Men Call Treasure because I found Babe in particular to be such a fascinating character that I just had to know more about her. Ended up being a pretty good book, although I came away from it somewhat convinced Doc basically put on a huge con.
Love Howard Drummond and the people interviewed who knew him, like the gentleman at the YMCA and the lady at the post office. Curly Green might be my favorite segment of all the Lost Heirs, though. It's one I can put on and immediately feel comforted, which is not something you can say about most UM segments. :lol:
Oh, I definitely lean towards the school of thought on Doc being a con. But it was a such an interesting con story haha. It's also a segment that I use to skip over but learned to enjoy over time.
Curly Green is one of my all time favourites. The fact that he would put a can of food on the pilot light of his stove in the morning to have ready for dinner seemed kind of wild even to seven year old me. Knowing the dangers associated with doing that as an adult (up to and including removing a hot sharp metal can top to actually get into the food, which the actor playing Curly demonstrates quite nicely) takes it to another level. ;)
I also think there's a direct correlation between Howard Drummond being fired for stealing scotch tape and later in life subscribing to Soviet Life magazine.
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