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quincywagstaff 07-31-2015, 12:59 PM Not sure if this has been posted on this board previously, but just in case it wasn't, Vicki Lawrence announced recently on her FB page that ME-TV will be airing "Mama's Family" starting in January. Surprised that it took this long for one of the ever-growing number of retro TV digital networks to pick the show up.
tlc38tlc38 07-31-2015, 04:18 PM I can't get MeTV but I'm so happy that MF has been picked up again for syndication. I was hoping that either TBS or WGN would pick it up but I own the complete series anyway so I'm not really worried about not getting to see it on TV.
But I'm so happy for those who don't own the complete series that they can see it in reruns. I love this show and it needs to be aired more.
Bonniegirl 07-31-2015, 06:03 PM WAY COOL!!!!
Kasey 08-03-2015, 01:15 PM I hope this means that WB is slowly starting to let their vintage series out of the pen for these retro stations to unearth again. Maybe ALICE, IT'S A LIVING, CHICO & THE MAN etc will be next.
Planet Claire 08-03-2015, 02:47 PM I love Mama's Family. It is about time they get it on the Me-TV lineup. It's a very funny show.
Bonniegirl 08-03-2015, 05:28 PM I hope this means that WB is slowly starting to let their vintage series out of the pen for these retro stations to unearth again. Maybe ALICE, IT'S A LIVING, CHICO & THE MAN etc will be next.
I know!!! I hope!!!! ;)
Planet Claire 08-03-2015, 06:30 PM I really feel Me-TV needs to revamp there afternoon lineup. Grant it I only get to watch these shows during the Summer as I am a teacher, but shows like Bonanza, The Rifleman, and Gunsmoke seem to have been around for ages.
Rewinder 08-03-2015, 07:36 PM So ME-TV will pick it up? I haven't seen it since it's broadcast on TBS i always wondered if ME-TV would pick it up or if Antenna TV would since it felt like a show that Antenna tv would air. But look's like us ME-TV viewers will get the show :)
Bonniegirl 08-03-2015, 07:43 PM I remember watching it on Pax/Ion TV around the same time they showed Alice. Maybe 8 years ago or so?
kellygoo72 08-13-2015, 03:43 PM Way cool indeed! LOVE this show.... I hope once whatever station airs it.... it doesn't air it for like 2 months& then stop.... I cannot WAIT!!!! Got my DVR all ready 2 go!
tlc38tlc38 09-01-2015, 08:14 PM I wonder if they'll use the syndicated cuts or the new unedited cuts for the NBC episodes?
mets82 09-02-2015, 03:25 PM I like this show. I'm ready for it.
tlc38tlc38 09-02-2015, 07:16 PM When it comes to "Mama's Family", I consider myself a HUGE fan. I've seen every episode MANY times and love all of them. Even though I can't get this channel, I'm glad it's going to finally be aired again in syndication. "MF" is my all-time favorite sitcom!
Mr. Television 09-02-2015, 08:53 PM Has anyone actually seen this announcement, or a link or anything?
I was thinking the same thing.
'80sSitcoms 09-03-2015, 08:19 AM I wonder if they'll use the syndicated cuts or the new unedited cuts for the NBC episodes?
Oh I'm sure they'll be the regular syndicated cuts. The original unedits have to be for DVD only.
quincywagstaff 09-03-2015, 07:43 PM Has anyone actually seen this announcement, or a link or anything?
Here is the link to Vicki Lawrence's Facebook account:
https://www.facebook.com/175449725830747/photos/a.182338771808509.37946.175449725830747/879473995428313/?type=1
Wonder if it'll take the Carol Burnett and Friends slot, or air at 10 EST, right before Carol?
Mr. Television 09-03-2015, 07:49 PM Here is the link to Vicki Lawrence's Facebook account:
https://www.facebook.com/175449725830747/photos/a.182338771808509.37946.175449725830747/879473995428313/?type=1
Thanks for the link.
quincywagstaff 09-03-2015, 07:50 PM Oh I'm sure they'll be the regular syndicated cuts. The original unedits have to be for DVD only.
Yep. Getting the unedited episodes for the NBC seasons was a special deal between Time-Life and the Joe Hamilton estate for the DVDs, completely unrelated to the broadcast rights to the edited episodes which Warner owns.
rusty spike 09-09-2015, 08:16 AM I hope this is true. I like MF to be airing somewhere!
quincywagstaff 10-01-2015, 08:58 PM Vicki Lawrence did an interview on WGN-TV in Chicago recently and said that when me Me-TV begins airing the show starting in January, they will be running two episodes nightly. Wonder which show(s) will be getting bumped?
boechsner 10-02-2015, 12:17 AM Probably the back to back Hogan's Heroes. So then it would be back to back Mama's Family leading into Carol Burnett & Friends.
Vicki Lawrence did an interview on WGN-TV in Chicago recently and said that when me Me-TV begins airing the show starting in January, they will be running two episodes nightly. Wonder which show(s) will be getting bumped?
JoshLarson24 10-29-2015, 12:30 PM The show was in a legal dispute which kept it from the airwaves for years. Now the legal issues are cleared up so now it is free to be aired again.
As for watching it on TV it will be great to see it again because the DVD releases have cut out several music numbers either cutting out the scene completely or using alternative music so I am hoping these episodes will at least have those music numbers.
OH Nuts! 10-29-2015, 01:23 PM When it comes to "Mama's Family", I consider myself a HUGE fan. I've seen every episode MANY times and love all of them. Even though I can't get this channel, I'm glad it's going to finally be aired again in syndication. "MF" is my all-time favorite sitcom!
I like the show too; there's something especially endearing about that old battleax and her lovable sidekick Iola. And of course Vinton and"Skeeter". I hope Antenna TV decides to air it one day.
mets82 10-29-2015, 03:20 PM What was the legal dispute about?
quincywagstaff 11-08-2015, 08:58 PM Me-TV will be running special holiday episodes of various TV shows starting the week of November 16th at 9-10 PM nightly, including a number of shows that it doesn't currently air. On Christmas Day, it will air "Mama's Family's" first Christmas episode "Santa Mama" at 9:30 PM.
JoshLarson24 11-13-2015, 07:29 AM I like the show too; there's something especially endearing about that old battleax and her lovable sidekick Iola. And of course Vinton and"Skeeter". I hope Antenna TV decides to air it one day.
Antenna TV can't air it as long as Me-TV has the rights to it. It's a legal thing.
quincywagstaff 12-14-2015, 08:36 PM In case anyone missed it in the General Sitcoms section, Mama's Family will be airing at 6 and 6:30 PM weeknights on Me-TV starting in January.
Bonniegirl 12-14-2015, 09:22 PM In case anyone missed it in the General Sitcoms section, Mama's Family will be airing at 6 and 6:30 PM weeknights on Me-TV starting in January.
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stevea 12-15-2015, 07:52 AM I wonder if they'll use the syndicated cuts or the new unedited cuts for the NBC episodes?
Oddly enough, I'm hoping for the syndicated versions. Then we'd hear all the music that the DVD's cut out. I don't want to see Mama become mayor and not hear Harper Days Are Here Again!
'80sSitcoms 12-15-2015, 09:29 AM They will pretty much have to be the syndicated cuts.
stevea 12-15-2015, 10:17 AM They will pretty much have to be the syndicated cuts.
MeTV does use commercial DVD's at times (notably Brady Bunch) (sped up and/or edited), but they would run into trouble with Mama. I think they'd be forced to use the syndication copies. Kind of too bad, too--I remember when TBS showed them, the prints are kind of washed out color.
biffbronson 12-15-2015, 04:57 PM That's too bad, sorry to hear of the drawbacks. Still it's great that MeTV is adding this to their lineup -- I think it fits in with their programming very well.
JoshLarson24 12-15-2015, 05:08 PM I think the only prints for airing are the syndicated ones since those are the ones that have been used since the days the show was airing on TBS, ION and CMT.
If by some chance they use the original episodes I highly doubt that any music will be cut since the music issues on the DVD sets were Time Life's issue and not with the episodes themselves.
I personally will look forward to seeing it show up on TV just so I can record the episodes that are missing the music on the DVD sets.
I have the old set from TBS airings as well but the episode with Aunt Gert goes messy when they sing Ain't Misbehavin and I have always wanted a clear copy of that song.
My local station likes to pre-empt Me-TV in my area but I hope they leave Mama's Family alone like they leave Bounce alone during the 90s classics that air during the prime time hours.
rusty spike 12-15-2015, 05:41 PM I had no idea that the DVD set had switched the music. That really stinks.
stevea 12-16-2015, 06:52 AM I think the only prints for airing are the syndicated ones since those are the ones that have been used since the days the show was airing on TBS, ION and CMT.
If by some chance they use the original episodes I highly doubt that any music will be cut since the music issues on the DVD sets were Time Life's issue and not with the episodes themselves.
I personally will look forward to seeing it show up on TV just so I can record the episodes that are missing the music on the DVD sets.
I have the old set from TBS airings as well but the episode with Aunt Gert goes messy when they sing Ain't Misbehavin and I have always wanted a clear copy of that song.
My local station likes to pre-empt Me-TV in my area but I hope they leave Mama's Family alone like they leave Bounce alone during the 90s classics that air during the prime time hours.
With some showings of Brady Bunch, you can easily tell they're using commercial DVD. Sometimes they will (accidentally) leave The Brady Bunch In Color slide in there, at the beginning, which is part of the first two seasons DVD set. They are using the syndication episodes of Gomer Pyle, though. There are a lot of music cuts on the commercial DVDs of that, and the music is intact on MeTV.
Bonniegirl 12-16-2015, 01:18 PM I like the later seasons of Mama's family with Bubba, Naomi and Iola a lot better than early on with Buzz and Sonja. I don't think they added too much to the show!! Bubba was a much more fun, cooler young person character! And Naomi and Iola really added a lot to the show! ;)
Mario500 01-04-2016, 10:58 PM I saw one of the episodes set to appear on Me-TV's programming feed today and took note of it appearing as if it had been made on film instead of videotape.
gidgetgrape 01-05-2016, 12:02 AM I like the later seasons of Mama's family with Bubba, Naomi and Iola a lot better than early on with Buzz and Sonja. I don't think they added too much to the show!! Bubba was a much more fun, cooler young person character! And Naomi and Iola really added a lot to the show! ;)
Me too! I'm counting the days to Bubba and Iola. There are a few early episodes I like though.
stevea 01-05-2016, 07:45 AM Me too! I'm counting the days to Bubba and Iola. There are a few early episodes I like though.
The early episode where the gang goes to Ellen's club is LOL.
'80sSitcoms 01-05-2016, 09:23 AM I like the later seasons of Mama's family with Bubba, Naomi and Iola a lot better than early on with Buzz and Sonja. I don't think they added too much to the show!! Bubba was a much more fun, cooler young person character! And Naomi and Iola really added a lot to the show! ;)
Naomi really added more in the Buzz/Sonja era than the Iola/Bubba years. She was so feisty and really had zest. I still love her in the I/B years, but she mellowed and "settled" more into her station in the family there.
I love things about both versions of the show. With Fran and Ellen and Eunice, you really had the feel of a large, extended family where everyone was within driving distance in Raytown. And with the cut footage now reinstated---about 2 minutes or so each---they really have more of a "one-act play" feel than they did in syndication, with even more attention to character and interaction. Thank goodness Time Life/Star Vista got their hands on this series! :)
stevea 01-05-2016, 10:09 AM Thank goodness Time Life/Star Vista got their hands on this series! :)
I agree, but it's too bad about the music problems. I haven't watched the mayor episodes yet, but I really don't want to see those without "Harper Days Are Here Again". Somehow cutting that would spoil the whole program.
Bonniegirl 01-05-2016, 04:13 PM Naomi really added more in the Buzz/Sonja era than the Iola/Bubba years. She was so feisty and really had zest. I still love her in the I/B years, but she mellowed and "settled" more into her station in the family there.
I love things about both versions of the show. With Fran and Ellen and Eunice, you really had the feel of a large, extended family where everyone was within driving distance in Raytown. And with the cut footage now reinstated---about 2 minutes or so each---they really have more of a "one-act play" feel than they did in syndication, with even more attention to character and interaction. Thank goodness Time Life/Star Vista got their hands on this series! :)
Wow!! You know what? I was thinking Naomi came in at the same time as Iola and Bubba!!! I always liked this show, but it's been a lot of years since I saw it and I don't remember all of it!!:confused: But cool, glad Naomi is there already!;) I missed yesterday's eps. but I'm watching for sure tonight/today! ;)
Mr. Television 01-05-2016, 04:25 PM I enjoyed the early seasons because Ellen and Eunice were on it.
Bonniegirl 01-05-2016, 05:18 PM I enjoyed the early seasons because Ellen and Eunice were on it.
I loved Eunice , but I didn't think Ellen, Aunt Fran, Sonya or Buzz really added too much to the show! Glad they changed it up and brought in Bubba and Iola! They really added a lot to the show! ;)
stevea 01-06-2016, 06:59 AM I loved Eunice , but I didn't think Ellen, Aunt Fran, Sonya or Buzz really added too much to the show! Glad they changed it up and brought in Bubba and Iola! They really added a lot to the show! ;)
Carol really added a lot to the show. It's a shame she wasn't in the later seasons.
'80sSitcoms 01-06-2016, 09:41 AM I loved Eunice , but I didn't think Ellen, Aunt Fran, Sonya or Buzz really added too much to the show!
Pay attention to Aunt Fran next time you watch the NBC episodes. She was very funny and had a unique position in the family.
You know what? I was thinking Naomi came in at the same time as Iola and Bubba!!!
Nope, she's there from the very beginning---wait'll you see her long ponytail wigs!
JoshLarson24 01-06-2016, 10:33 AM [QUOTE='80sSitcoms]Pay attention to Aunt Fran next time you watch the NBC episodes. She was very funny and had a unique position in the family.
Aunt Fran is that typical family member everyone has. Nothing unique about her. I have several family members that fall in the "Aunt Fran" category.
I also have a few "Eunice" and "Ellen" and Ellen types too
Bonniegirl 01-06-2016, 10:36 AM Carol really added a lot to the show. It's a shame she wasn't in the later seasons.
Oh I know!! Her and Harvey Korman !!! I would have liked to see Eunice and Ed as regulars throughout the run of the show !! ;)
Bonniegirl 01-06-2016, 10:39 AM Pay attention to Aunt Fran next time you watch the NBC episodes. She was very funny and had a unique position in the family.
Nope, she's there from the very beginning---wait'll you see her long ponytail wigs!
Yeah!! As I was watching yesterday it dawned on me!!! Duh, I said to myself! :crazy: Of course Naomi was in the early eps. I Totally remember now seeing the two part wedding eps. before!!!! ;) I mainly associate/remember Naomi in the later eps. with her big ol' perm!!! :D
CelticJobber 01-07-2016, 04:06 AM Pay attention to Aunt Fran next time you watch the NBC episodes. She was very funny and had a unique position in the family.
Yeah, Fran seems to be a bit under-rated. Two of my favorite episodes from the NBC years are "Fran's Dress" and "Ask Aunt Fran".
'80sSitcoms 01-07-2016, 09:33 AM Aunt Fran is that typical family member everyone has. Nothing unique about her. I have several family members that fall in the "Aunt Fran" category.
She's not typical at all; the way Rue plays her is wonderfully endearing, especially when you take into account Rue was not happy with the characterization. The fact that she took Frannie and gave her her all shows what a brilliant, consummate actress she really was. Vicki goes into some glowing detail on this on the box set bonus features, and on an installment of Shop NBC where she was promoting the set.
Yeah, Fran seems to be a bit under-rated.
Quite. It's so great that this show is in a terrific high-end box set, and now back on TV for those without DVD.
Mario500 01-09-2016, 05:45 PM Could someone explain why the episodes broadcast by Me-TV were broadcast like movies on film?
rusty spike 01-09-2016, 06:35 PM I'm pretty sure that they have sped them up so they are unedited for commercials. I can't watch them because it causes me to suffer motion sickness. However, I can listen to them just fine.
quincywagstaff 01-09-2016, 08:48 PM Could someone explain why the episodes broadcast by Me-TV were broadcast like movies on film?
Me-TV posted a reply to this question on Facebook. They said Warner is to blame for the messed up video quality because they converted the series to high definition. Why they can't just use the same videotapes that TNT and Ion ran for years is a mystery to me but that's the reason they gave. The episodes have not been sped up. They are edited for time just like the episodes on TNT.
Mario500 01-10-2016, 02:05 AM The episodes have not been sped up. They are edited for time just like the episodes on TNT.
Did you mean TBS?
Crusinforabrusin 01-10-2016, 10:16 AM Oh great. Just great. First we have The Carol Burnett Show; now Mamas Family. Looks like MeTv is on a downward spiral.
Mario500 01-10-2016, 11:19 AM The user named quincywagstaff was probably referring to the "reply" that should appear in a yellow rectangle for about a second if you or someone else were to select the following hyperlink: https://www.facebook.com/metvnetwork/posts/10154401809696686?comment_id=10154402023946686&comment_tracking={%22tn%22%3A%22R%22**
By the way, quincywagstaff, thank you for your response to my question above.
quincywagstaff 01-10-2016, 12:02 PM The user named quincywagstaff was probably referring to the "reply" that should appear in a yellow rectangle for about a second if you or someone else were to select the following hyperlink: https://www.facebook.com/metvnetwork/posts/10154401809696686?comment_id=10154402023946686&comment_tracking={%22tn%22%3A%22R%22**
By the way, quincywagstaff, thank you for your response to my question above.
You're very welcome. And yes, I meant TBS not TNT. They ran the show for years and there must be non-HD versions of the show sitting in someone's vault somewhere.
stevea 01-11-2016, 04:05 PM I think they processed it thru something like "Filmlook". The only plus is that the color is better than it was on TBS--the syndication copies they used had washed-out color.
One other thing I noticed is that, like so many other old programs on digital (like "Diff'rent Strokes" and "Good Times"), the end credits have "jitter"--they don't play smoothly as they roll. I think this is an artifact of digital TV.
pjpiazza 01-11-2016, 07:25 PM Are the episodes aired out of order? Vint isn't married in Alien Marriage but a few days ago they aired The Wedding episode.
stevea 01-12-2016, 07:48 AM Are the episodes aired out of order? Vint isn't married in Alien Marriage but a few days ago they aired The Wedding episode.
This is a disadvantage (for this show) of running in original broadcast order (meaning this happened when NBC originally broadcast the show). As I recall TBS ran them in production number order--I think there were even problems with this!
jehobden 01-12-2016, 08:05 PM Me-TV posted a reply to this question on Facebook. They said Warner is to blame for the messed up video quality because they converted the series to high definition. Why they can't just use the same videotapes that TNT and Ion ran for years is a mystery to me but that's the reason they gave. The episodes have not been sped up. They are edited for time just like the episodes on TNT.
I don't like how they look in this phony digitized film format, but I guess if it was messed up on video it had to be done. I much prefer the videotape look, which Carol Burnett and Friends still has and Mama's Family originally had.
Mr. Television 01-12-2016, 08:13 PM I don't like how they look in this phony digitized film format, but I guess if it was messed up on video it had to be done. I much prefer the videotape look, which Carol Burnett and Friends still has and Mama's Family originally had.
The only part that is really noticeable to me is when the credits run. It's a little jumpy.
Bonniegirl 01-12-2016, 08:14 PM Are the episodes aired out of order? Vint isn't married in Alien Marriage but a few days ago they aired The Wedding episode.
I was wondering about that too?:confused: I was thinking I missed something and it was supposed to be a flashback ep. maybe? :crazy:
quincywagstaff 01-12-2016, 08:59 PM I was wondering about that too?:confused: I was thinking I missed something and it was supposed to be a flashback ep. maybe? :crazy:
That's exactly right. The Alien Marriage and Mama's Silver episodes were actually flashback episodes but because the show has been edited to allow for more commercials, that explanation is missing. Originally, all of the season 1 episodes opened with an introduction by Alistair Quince (Harvey Korman), but these were all cut in syndication to allow more commerical time. In the intros to these two episodes, he explains that these are flashbacks to a time before Vint had married Naomi. The DVDs are unedited and have all of the missing scenes, including the Harvey Korman openings.
Bonniegirl 01-12-2016, 09:23 PM That's exactly right. The Alien Marriage and Mama's Silver episodes were actually flashback episodes but because the show has been edited to allow for more commercials, that explanation is missing. Originally, all of the season 1 episodes opened with an introduction by Alistair Quince (Harvey Korman), but these were all cut in syndication to allow more commerical time. In the intros to these two episodes, he explains that these are flashbacks to a time before Vint had married Naomi. The DVDs are unedited and have all of the missing scenes, including the Harvey Korman openings.
Thank you! That is what I thought!!! ;) Oh yeah!! OMG I DO remember Harvey (Alistair) doing the introduction!! That was cool! ;) A shame it still can't be like that! Darn commercials! :(
Did we see the promo spot Vicki L. recorded for MF on ME-TV? "Vote For Mama." :)
'80sSitcoms 01-14-2016, 12:09 PM That's exactly right. The Alien Marriage and Mama's Silver episodes were actually flashback episodes but because the show has been edited to allow for more commercials, that explanation is missing. Originally, all of the season 1 episodes opened with an introduction by Alistair Quince (Harvey Korman), but these were all cut in syndication to allow more commerical time. In the intros to these two episodes, he explains that these are flashbacks to a time before Vint had married Naomi. The DVDs are unedited and have all of the missing scenes, including the Harvey Korman openings.
Thank you! That is what I thought!!! ;) Oh yeah!! OMG I DO remember Harvey (Alistair) doing the introduction!! That was cool! ;) A shame it still can't be like that! Darn commercials! :(
That is all true, but the reasons for this stems back even farther..."Alien Marriage" and "Mama's Silver" were actually the first two episodes taped for the series. But, after doing these two shows, Vicki began to panic. She felt there was something "not right" with the show; Mama was too strident, was too angry, yelling too much. She halted production on the show and asked to bring in Harvey as a co-director.
This is when Harvey told Vicki that Mama needed to lighten up, because people don't wanna come home after a hard day's work, pop open a beer, and listen to this old woman screaming for half an hour. Vicki said she didn't know how to make Mama lighthearted because "she never even smiled" (which is untrue; there are a few "Family" sketches on The Carol Burnett Show where Mama does smile, and even laugh, but at that point apparently Vicki had forgotten that). So Harvey told her Mama can laugh and be lighthearted, because "You ARE Mama!" (which Vicki said was frightening, lol).
So, after these two shows, Harvey was brought on as co-director and worked with Vicki as Mama (and the other actors), she became a more "likeable", sitcom-friendly Mama. :) (although I still enjoy those first two episodes very much!)
Bonniegirl 01-14-2016, 12:28 PM And I like Vint and Naomi married!!! They are two of my favorite characters. I think they are a big part of the show!!
Will Dockery 02-10-2016, 08:37 AM Not sure if this has been posted on this board previously, but just in case it wasn't, Vicki Lawrence announced recently on her FB page that ME-TV will be airing "Mama's Family" starting in January. Surprised that it took this long for one of the ever-growing number of retro TV digital networks to pick the show up.
And the promotion has been heavy.
Vickie Lawrence is going all out, it seems, for promo spots on MEtv, lots of new material being filmed and broadcast.
Will Dockery 02-10-2016, 08:41 AM That is all true, but the reasons for this stems back even farther..."Alien Marriage" and "Mama's Silver" were actually the first two episodes taped for the series. But, after doing these two shows, Vicki began to panic. She felt there was something "not right" with the show; Mama was too strident, was too angry, yelling too much. She halted production on the show and asked to bring in Harvey as a co-director.
This is when Harvey told Vicki that Mama needed to lighten up, because people don't wanna come home after a hard day's work, pop open a beer, and listen to this old woman screaming for half an hour. Vicki said she didn't know how to make Mama lighthearted because "she never even smiled" (which is untrue; there are a few "Family" sketches on The Carol Burnett Show where Mama does smile, and even laugh, but at that point apparently Vicki had forgotten that). So Harvey told her Mama can laugh and be lighthearted, because "You ARE Mama!" (which Vicki said was frightening, lol).
So, after these two shows, Harvey was brought on as co-director and worked with Vicki as Mama (and the other actors), she became a more "likeable", sitcom-friendly Mama. :) (although I still enjoy those first two episodes very much!)
Interesting evolution of this show.
Will Dockery 02-10-2016, 08:44 AM I think they processed it thru something like "Filmlook". The only plus is that the color is better than it was on TBS--the syndication copies they used had washed-out color.
One other thing I noticed is that, like so many other old programs on digital (like "Diff'rent Strokes" and "Good Times"), the end credits have "jitter"--they don't play smoothly as they roll. I think this is an artifact of digital TV.
This "Filmlook" processing, I wonder if that is what was done to a Brady Bunch episode I saw recently, the colors were eye-poppingly bright, like cartoonish, really.
Will Dockery 02-10-2016, 08:47 AM I don't like how they look in this phony digitized film format, but I guess if it was messed up on video it had to be done. I much prefer the videotape look, which Carol Burnett and Friends still has and Mama's Family originally had.
Okay, first I've read of this new practice, I reckon a lot of old television will be looking different soon.
tlc38tlc38 08-16-2016, 06:05 PM I watched MF on MeTV today for the first time. Not the first time I've seen MF, just on MeTV and it looks absolutely horrible. I'm not sure what was done to the transfers but they look very jumpy and it actually gives me a headache to watch. Glad I own the DVDs.
Svenfan1234 08-16-2016, 06:21 PM I watched MF on MeTV today for the first time. Not the first time I've seen MF, just on MeTV and it looks absolutely horrible. I'm not sure what was done to the transfers but they look very jumpy and it actually gives me a headache to watch. Glad I own the DVDs.
Given that this is the first time that I have watched the show I have no idea that it would look different on the DVDs. I think Me sped them up.
tlc38tlc38 08-16-2016, 06:23 PM ^They don't seem sped up. The video is just jumpy and the colors Are way too bright. And for some reason, the sound is also different.
Svenfan1234 08-16-2016, 06:26 PM ^They don't seem sped up. The video is just jumpy and the colors Are way too bright. And for some reason, the sound is also different.
That's strange.
tlc38tlc38 08-16-2016, 06:36 PM After watching it longer, the film kind of looks like bad 3D. I'm not sure exactly what it is about the sound but it just sounds "off".
stevea 10-13-2016, 09:16 PM The only part that is really noticeable to me is when the credits run. It's a little jumpy.
Any 1980s videotaped series that rolls credits (virtually all do) has this problem with jitter. It's not a digitizing thing (since my DVD recorded MFs from TBS don't have this problem)...so it's either the HD process or the Filmlook process or both. It'd be really nice if some expert could explain why it happens ands why the don't or can't fix it.
Do the DVDs look the same as the episodes on METV, or are they clearer? I know some other 1980s DVDs don't have the best quality (Facts of Life, for one), but i guess that goes with the era, too.
stevea 10-14-2016, 11:10 PM I googled this 'jitter' problem, and it's highly technical. But it's a problem, for sure, and it affects many shows. One easily understood problem: converting to HD and converting that back to SD--but this is mostly a problem of incompetence. One solution for TV: MeTV (which isn't HD) should play Mama off the commercial DVDs, EXCEPT for the episodes where music was edited out, and possibly season 1, where the network versions may not be able to be played on TV.
mets82 10-15-2016, 06:31 PM Why can't they play the network versions?
quincywagstaff 10-15-2016, 06:52 PM Why can't they play the network versions?
The episodes on NBC ran several minutes longer than the made for syndication episodes that Lorimar produced after the show was cancelled by the network. That meant that the network episodes had to be edited so the run time was the same as the Lorimar shows. Warner (which absorbed Lorimar in the late 80's) owns the broadcast rights to MF but only for the edited network episodes as well as the Lorimar episodes. The Joe Hamilton estate owns the unedited NBC episodes (which is what appears on the Time LIfe DVDs), but legally can't broadcast their version because they are prohibited by Warner.
tlc38tlc38 01-25-2017, 12:12 AM Do the DVDs look the same as the episodes on METV, or are they clearer? I know some other 1980s DVDs don't have the best quality (Facts of Life, for one), but i guess that goes with the era, too.
The DVDs look 100% better than the broadcasts on MeTV. Heck, the TBS bootleg DVDs look better than MeTV. The "film look" doesn't impress me at all.
gidgetgrape 02-05-2017, 10:06 PM Does anyone know the name and author of the book Naomi was reading about nuns when Vint was trying to become a Cobra? A screen cap would be even more awesome.
Mario500 02-06-2017, 11:49 AM Does anyone know the name and author of the book Naomi was reading about nuns when Vint was trying to become a Cobra? A screen cap would be even more awesome.
Name: "A Nun's Life"
Author: George Spelvin
gidgetgrape 02-06-2017, 03:52 PM Name: "A Nun's Life"
Author: George Spelvin
Thank you so much Mario500! :wave:
MichaelKeith 05-01-2017, 12:30 PM I'm lovin watching Mama's Family on METV every evening! Also, Logo channel runs it in blocks on some days of the week.
Four more weeks of back-to-back Mama, and at the 6 p.m. hour. Starting May 29, it will be just one episode nightly, at 9 p.m.
Better than nothin', right? It enjoye a year and a-half in that 6 p.m. Slot.
tlc38tlc38 05-01-2017, 10:03 PM I hate to see one of the episodes be taken off the schedule but I'm very pleased with the new schedule. Can't wait for ALF and The Odd Couple on weekdays (in my area)!
stevea 05-03-2017, 05:15 PM I wrote on the "Diff'rent Strokes" sub topic, that Starz evidently must have complained about the jitter that was on their original copies, because they are now much improved. I have read this jitter can sometimes be caused when shows are remastered to HD, and then converted back to SD.
MeTV needs to complain to Warners about the quality of Mama's Family, because it has the exact same problem. The jitter problem is most obvious when the credits are rolled, but, from what I've seen done to Diff'rent Strokes, the whole episode quality improves when it's corrected.
mets82 05-04-2017, 01:32 PM Jitter problem? What's that?
stevea 05-04-2017, 04:30 PM If you watch the closing credits, which roll, the print blurs. It appears to be due to a small shake, up and down, in the picture. This jitter affects the quality of the whole episode, and it's probably why MF looks so bad on MeTV.
Is the jitter issue the same that happens at some points during an episode, where the volume and picture gets all wonky? It's not in every episode or anything, but it is there from time to time.
tlc38tlc38 09-18-2017, 08:41 PM The picture quality looks way better on Logo than on MeTV.
Logo must use the older syndication cuts (that aired on TBS) whereas MeTV uses those crappy new digitized film versions.
OK- what in the world is going on, that "WKRP in Cincinnati" is replacing "Mama's Family" week nights at 9:30 starting Monday? Last-minute change in the spring schedule?
stevea 03-28-2018, 10:20 PM That was a previously announced MeTV schedule change. Mama will only air on Sunday afternoon now.
For some reason MeTV must have had problems properly scheduling Mama, since they've moved it so much.
I agree with post 98--MF doesn't look good on MeTV--I'm glad I saved my TBS copies. I think Warners tried to put it into HD--which I've read never works with a videotaped show--not enough resolution. They should have just stuck with the old syndication copies.
Jamey Greek 04-03-2018, 12:51 PM Are the episodes aired out of order? Vint isn't married in Alien Marriage but a few days ago they aired The Wedding episode.
It was pushed back even originally as a "Lost episode"
stevea 04-03-2018, 01:19 PM In the original NBC airings, a couple of the out of order episodes were prefaced by flashback explanations (probably by Alistair Quince in the intros). These were cut in syndication, so no matter whether they're shown in network or production order, they're wrong.
Jamey Greek 04-03-2018, 05:28 PM Thank you! That is what I thought!!! ;) Oh yeah!! OMG I DO remember Harvey (Alistair) doing the introduction!! That was cool! ;) A shame it still can't be like that! Darn commercials! :(
Still included in the DVD set
starting Monday, airing at 6 p.m. :) (the Sunday telecasts are staying put ,too- I don't get to see the, as I work on that day).
It will be good to see Mama back at 6 p.m., even if it's just one episode.
schmave 05-27-2018, 01:13 PM I'm lovin watching Mama's Family on METV every evening! Also, Logo channel runs it in blocks on some days of the week.
Usually that's where I get my Mama's Family fix, late Friday nights/early Saturday mornings. They should be rounding back to the NBC shows pretty soon, within the next week or two, as currently they're early in Season Six.
stevea 05-27-2018, 06:22 PM I'll be glad to see Mama back at 6. It seems both MeTV and Antenna TV have problems finding the right show for that time. Probably a lot of people are watching the news.
"The Flintstones" will start airing from 6 to 7 p.m. starting Sept. 30. Where will that leave "Mama"? Schedule has yet to leak/be released.
So, "Mama" is not on the fall schedule effective Sept. 30. "The Jeffersons" is moving to Sundays at the beginning of the month- what will be airing from 6 to 7 p.m. for four weeks, leading up to the debut of "The Flintstones"?
So, "Mama" is not on the fall schedule effective Sept. 30. "The Jeffersons" is moving to Sundays at the beginning of the month- what will be airing from 6 to 7 p.m. for four weeks, leading up to the debut of "The Flintstones"?
Where did you find that information out?
The MeTV fall schedule. Looks like MF and Jeffersons will remain 6-7 p.m. until Sept. 30 (though Jeffersons also will air an episode Sunday nights starting early Sept.).
Two more nights of "Mama" on MeTV and then, based on all available information, the show will be gone from the schedule starting Monday (unless there's an 11th-hour switch somewhere).
BigManMike 09-26-2019, 05:40 PM Looks like Mama is gone. The Jeffersons is moving to sister network Decades with two episode each weekday afternoon at 5 Eastern plus one episode Sunday nights at 10 Eastern still on Me.
Looks like Mama is gone. The Jeffersons is moving to sister network Decades with two episode each weekday afternoon at 5 Eastern plus one episode Sunday nights at 10 Eastern still on Me.
The Jeffersons will also be on TVOne as well.
storrs19 09-30-2019, 05:03 AM Very unhappy about this. I never liked The Flintstones (or The Honeymooners for that matter). Just an hour less of television I’ll watch. It’s more and more DVD’s these days it seems.
'80sSitcoms 10-01-2019, 10:18 AM Guess Mama and company will still be on Logo.
No Logo with our cable service, so I'll soon be starting the series from the beginning on DVD.
seeing MF back on MeTV on Sunday, even for just one episode- it was the Thanksgiving episode when they're trapped in the basement. Wonder if it will return on the winter schedule, or if it's on a lengthy hiatus.
quincywagstaff 05-12-2020, 07:55 PM Mama's Family will be returning to Me-TV starting in June with two episodes every Sunday at 5PM (Eastern).
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