Tvland pulls Dukes of Hazzard

http://www.wccbcharlotte.com/news/national/TV-Land-Pulls-Dukes-Of-Hazzard-Over-Confederate-Flag-Debate-311255961.html?4554

I'm glad it had a very good reason to do it. Also, the show is out dated and hasn't aged well.

this seems like an over-reaction

I can understand that people might be offended by the flag and what it represents to some people (idiotic racists and neo-nazis), but I personally think that banning the flag outright really does not do anything to actually affect racism and the energy that goes into this sort of backlash would be better put to use in more positive avenues to try and fight racism.

honestly, this just gives people like that idiot kid that murdered those innocent people more excuses to be racist idiots - he said he wanted to start a race war, people are starting to give him exactly what he wants.

Couldn't they just digitally remove the flag from the top of the General Lee, if it's so offensive? If they can remove cigarettes digitally, why not the Confederate Flag? :lol:

This is just stupid and ridiculous.

TVLand has changed schedules at an instant's notice for a long time. Dukes of Hazzard is hardly the only show they've pulled.

DISGUSTING.

OK this has gotten totally out of control and completely ridiculous. It's just a TV show, and one that was never meant to be (at least not usually) taken that seriously. I realize not everybody likes The Dukes Of Hazzard but I do and I always have. Really stupid move on TVLand's part.

Ed.

TVLand has changed schedules at an instant's notice for a long time. Dukes of Hazzard is hardly the only show they've pulled.

Exactly! This could entirely be ratings based.

The show stinks anyway, so who cares???
TV Land is always dropping shows from their lineup.... means nothing.

I told Comcast to pull TV land off my service in 2013 and haven't seen it since:wave:

TVLand has changed schedules at an instant's notice for a long time. Dukes of Hazzard is hardly the only show they've pulled.

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/tv-land-dukes-of-hazzard-confederate-flag-1201532627/

I was reading about this and they say TV Land pulled it due to the confederate Flag on the car. I personally think this is stupid! The flag was never about race, being from the south and having ancestors that died during that time period I am very well versed to it's true meaning. The KKK carried that flag so many people assume it was about race. The nail in the coffin was the idiot that killed those people in the Church. He actually posed with the flag in a photo. It's just a shame that we have sunk so slow as to blame a flag for some people who continue to be racist. I wish people would educate themselves :(


NONE of the flags of the Confederacy or Southern Nation ever flew over a slave ship. Nor did the South own or operate any slaves ships. The English, the Dutch and the Portugese brought slaves to this country, not the Southern Nation.

The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the "Southern Cross".
The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy and hoopla. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It is part of southern HISTORY! It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that villify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels.

The dispicable organizations such as the KKK and Aryans have taken a hallowed piece of history, and have plagued good Southern folks and the memories of fine Confederate Soldiers that fought under the flag with their perverse agenda. IN NO WAY does the Confederate Flag represent hate or violence. Heritage groups such as the SCV battle daily the damage done to a proud nation by these hate groups. The SCV denounces all hate groups, and pridefully boast HERITAGE - NOT HATE.

The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are not racist or hate group.

FACT - This is a blatant attack on one of the finest heritage groups ever. The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a historical, patriotic and non-political organization comprised of descendents of Confederate Soldiers and sailors dedicated to insuring that a true history of the 1861 -1865 period is preserved and presented to the public. The SCV continues to educate the public of the memory and reputation of the Confederate soldier as well as the motives for his suffering and sacrifice.

:clap: Well Put Patty Duke!

The show stinks anyway, so who cares???


Maybe the people that like the show? I know, crazy to think there's people out there with different tastes than you.

I've never seen a full episode of the Dukes of Hazzard, but this is the stupidest thing anyone has ever done in the history of the world.Indeed it is..... THATS A GOOD SHOW!!!!


This country is so screwed up its not funny!

On Thursday’s broadcast of “Fox & Friends” on the Fox News Channel, former Rep. Ben Jones (D-GA), who also played the character “Cooter” on the hit TV series “The Dukes of Hazzard” decades ago, questioned the wisdom of TVLand and its parent company Viacom for pulling reruns off the air over the image of the Confederate battle flag painted on top of the show’s iconic 1969 Dodge Charger.

Jones argued the programming wasn’t divisive, but in fact brought people together.

“I think that the train is off the tracks,” he said. “What we need to do in this country is to bring people together [for] an honest and open discussion. Nothing brought people together more than the ‘Dukes of Hazzard.’ Back in the day, more than 30 million in this country — black folks, white folks, red folks, brown folks, yellow folks and loved it — old folks, every section of the country. It’s become a permanent part of Americana and there is nothing more positive.”

Jones went on to blame Viacom for castigate Viacom for caving to pressure despite being willing to offer “some of the sleaziest trash” programming elsewhere and likened the act to an effort to erase history as the they did in pre-World War II Nazi Germany.

“[T]his is like the book burning in Nazi Germany or something,” he added. “This sweeping cultural cleansing that they’re doing. It’s got to stop.”


http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/07/02/ben-cooter-jones-likens-pulling-of-dukes-of-hazzard-to-nazi-book-burning/

What next...pretend that The Confederate States of America didn't exist like how Germany denies its past?

This is beyond stupid! I guess this means CMT also won't be airing Dukes again since it's owned by Viacom too. I hate to think what might have happened if that idiot was wearing a t-shirt with the American flag instead of the Confederate flag. Probably ban that too. :rolleyes:

I'm just glad I have all the seasons on DVD. The DVD sets are selling like crazy on ebay. Someone paid over $400 for all 7 seasons.

Political correctness gone amok.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/02/bo-duke-tweets-photo-of-dylann-roof-in-protest-after-tv-land-dumps-dukes-of-hazzard/

Bo Duke tweets photo of Dylann Roof in protest after TV Land dumps ‘Dukes of Hazzard’

In a 2001 documentary about the making of “The Dukes of Hazzard,” show creator Gy Waldron said the Confederate flag that appears on a car featured on the show — like the Good Ol’ Boys themselves — was never meanin’ no harm.

“Painting the Confederate flag on the roof of the car was done very innocently,” Waldron said, “because in the ’50s and ’60s it was very common to find Confederate flags painted on cars. There was never a political statement to be made by it. It was just part of the tradition. And once we had put it in there I saw no reason to bow to any pressure groups. We’re not making any statement regarding slavery or post-slavery or integration or anything like that.”

John Schneider — that’s Bo Duke to those who follow the Good Ol’ Boys — agreed that the General Lee, as the car is known, was far from a symbol of hate.

“It amazes me that anyone could take offense to the General Lee,” Schneider said in the documentary. “… If there was ever a non-racist family, it was the Dukes of Hazzard.”

Yet the General Lee’s signature roof seems to have just caved in. Entertainment Weekly has confirmed that the cable network TV Land pulled “The Dukes of Hazzard” from its schedule.

http://time.com/3944668/dukes-of-hazzard-tv-land-confederate-flag/

What Did The Dukes of Hazzard Really Say About the South?

Yes, it was a dumb car-chase show. And it was a mythmaking story about traditionalists recasting themselves as rebels.

“Someday the mountain might get ’em / But the law never will.” –Waylon Jennings

In the end, it was neither the law nor the mountain that got them Duke Boys. It was TV Land, which pulled reruns of The Dukes of Hazzard–whose muscle car the General Lee was emblazoned with the Confederate flag–amid the controversy after the racist massacre in Charleston whose perpetrator had posed with the banner. (The network hasn’t given a reason, but the timing is tough to overlook.) The move prompted an outraged reaction from costar John Schneider: “The Dukes of Hazzard was and is no more a show seated in racism than Breaking Bad was a show seated in reality.”

From many other folks, I expect, the reaction was more like: “Someone was rerunning The Dukes of Hazzard“? If you grew up with the show as I did, your memories probably mostly involve jean shorts, cars jumping over ponds and “Enos, you dipstick!” Was there really anything else to it?

The show’s no longer on TV Land, but you can watch the pilot free on Amazon (where subsequent episodes are $1.99 a pop). So I did.

It is still as gloriously shiny and empty as a collectors’ metal lunchbox, a Southern-fried cartoon (which later became an actual cartoon) jacked up with ’70s T&A. The plot involves the Dukes hijacking a shipment of illicit slot machines from Sheriff Roscoe P. Coltrane in order to save an orphanage; there’s a climatic prison escape involving a blow-up doll. The dialogue includes Luke’s immortal line, “Bo, you drive like my Aunt Fanny whips apple butter!” (Sidebar: They’re cousins. Isn’t it our Aunt Fanny?) There are some notable performances–Sorrell Booke’s gluttinously avaricious Boss Hogg, especially, is like Big Daddy filtered through John Waters–but the sensibility is more Tennessee Ernie Ford than Tennessee Williams.

But Dukes is also a fascinating document of its time in history–both TV and American. Dukes premiered in 1979, at the height of jiggle TV (Three’s Company, Charlie’s Angels) and the Carter-era pop fascination with Southern good-ole-boy stories (Convoy, Smokey and the Bandit). It was still firmly the post-Watergate era, in which the suspicion of The Man became mainstream, and some of the most popular screen heroes were charming rogues whose broke laws enforced by corrupt authorities (Han Solo, say, or many of Burt Reynolds’ ’70s roles). But the Reagan revolution, and its embrace of America’s past, was just a year away.

So the first messages you get from Waylon Jennings’ theme song are also the most essential: Bo and Luke were “good ol’ boys” but they were also “fightin’ the system.” They were traditionalists, but they were also rebels. The Duke boys weren’t political, but they were at least small-c conservative–they stood for old ways and ancient traditions.

And the show came along at a time when conservatism was figuring out a different way to present itself, not as the establishment but as the underdogs, the outsiders–essentially repurposing the hippie ideas of the people vs. the power into the little folks vs. the big government. (First Blood, which came out a few years later, cast Reagan-era icon Rambo as a solder betrayed by the powers-that-be–including, like the Duke Boys, a venal Southern sheriff.) Even the little things, like the Dukes’ bow-hunting, are about anti-government individualism: poor folks need food, and “Jesse don’t take kindly to no government assistance. He’d rather starve.”

This isn’t William F. Buckley’s elitist conservatism, standing athwart history and yelling “Stop!” It’s leaning out the window of a Dodge Charger and yelling “YEEEEHAWWWW!”

So about that rebel flag. The Dukes pilot doesn’t talk about it directly, but it does allude to the Civil War, in a scene that explains why Uncle Jesse (Denver Pyle) gave up the 200-year-old family moonshine business to save his nephews from jail: “They fought everybody from the British to the Confederacy to the U.S. government to stay in it.” On the one hand, the Duke boys’ car is the General Lee; on the other hand, their ultimate enemy–Jefferson Davis Hogg–is named for the president of the CSA.

There’s nothing about slavery or states’ rights in there, but the mythmaking is familiar enough. The Dukes fly the Confederate flag, the setup assures us, but they’re outside any negative ideas you have about the Confederacy. They’re just little guys going up against a succession of big guys. Just’a good old boys! There’s nothing overt there about the flag–and the series didn’t dwell on it after that–but it’s very much part of the “history not hate” message that led, by now, to a majority of American whites seeing the flag as a symbol of pride while most black Americans see it as one of racism, according to a CNN poll.

Of course, Ben Jones–the former Georgia congressman who played the Dukes’ coconspirator Cooter and now owns a chain of Hazzard-themed museums–recently insisted, “in Hazzard County there was never any racism.” More accurately, there just wasn’t much race. The black characters in the pilot are limited to a construction worker with no lines in the first chase scene, and a small part for the Dukes’ friend Brodie–played by Champ Laidler, credited with two episodes in total. (Later, there would be a minor recurring role for the African American sheriff of a neighboring county.)

That’s not to say The Dukes of Hazzard was some kind of diabolical historical whitewash so much as it was a network TV series in 1979, trying to pull in viewers nationwide for a story about the South without touching anything that inflamed people a decade or a century before.

So Northerners get a funny story of backwoods tricks played on backwoods hicks, loaded up with getaway music and casual stereotypes. (“If you weren’t my cousin, I’d marry you,” Bo tells Daisy in the pilot. “When did that ever stop anyone in this family before?” she asks him.) Southerners get a populist version of pride and rebellion without baggage. The kids get car chases with CB radios. The grown-ups get Daisy on a roadside in a bikini and/or Bo and Luke with their shirts unbuttoned to the waist. (There are more ’70s hormones floating around Hazzard County than during happy hour at the Regal Beagle.)

It may be right to say that no one ever tried to write politics into The Dukes of Hazzard, racial or otherwise. (Though there was a lot more politics in the pilot than I would have thought: there’s an election going on for Sheriff, and Coltrane went crooked when he lost his pension after a local bond initiative got voted down.) But that doesn’t mean it isn’t about them all the same. You can’t feature the flag of Dixie and not be about the South and race, like it or not, even if only by passively feeding into the argument that the flag is only about family pride, good ol’ boys and good ol’ times.

Does that mean the show should have been pulled off the air? I am a white man from the North: there may be no opinion on the Confederate flag less relevant than mine. But as someone who believes that pop-culture history is important history all the same, I agree with the Washington Post’s Alyssa Rosenberg, who argued for reading and watching Gone with the Wind despite and because of its race problems, as “a valuable document of the way the Lost Cause curdled into a regional religion.” The Dukes of Hazzard–like any TV in our past–is part of us, whether we watch it or not.

But you’re also not a killjoy if you watch it, get a kick out of it–and yet are weirded out by the awesome stunt car flying the flag of slavery. The Duke boys, like Waylon told us, wouldn’t change if they could. But the times, they change anyway.

Just another example of what a joke the whole landscape of American TV has become,well most of it anyhow.

What next...pretend that The Confederate States of America didn't exist like how Germany denies its past?Exactly!!!

Like ppl on many sites dont like it when a thread with a last reply from 2002 is replied to!!!! (They think they can forget the past and its sad)

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dukes-hazzard-star-rips-tv-806339

“I am saddened that one angry and misguided individual can cause one of the most beloved television shows in the history of the medium to suddenly be seen in this light,” the Bo Duke actor tells The Hollywood Reporter. “Are people who grew up watching the show now suddenly racists? Will they have to go through a detox and a 12-step program to kick their Dukes habit? ‘Hi… My name is John. I’m a Dukesoholic.’”

Good for him!!!!!!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dukes-hazzard-star-rips-tv-806339

“I am saddened that one angry and misguided individual can cause one of the most beloved television shows in the history of the medium to suddenly be seen in this light,” the Bo Duke actor tells The Hollywood Reporter. “Are people who grew up watching the show now suddenly racists? Will they have to go through a detox and a 12-step program to kick their Dukes habit? ‘Hi… My name is John. I’m a Dukesoholic.’”

Here's the full article.

Link (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dukes-hazzard-star-rips-tv-806339)

John Schneider is blasting TV Land for its decision to erase from its schedule — due to its depiction of the Confederate flag — reruns of The Dukes of Hazzard, the wholesome show that made the actor a teen idol in the 1980s.

“The Dukes of Hazzard was and is no more a show seated in racism than Breaking Bad was a show seated in reality,” Schneider told The Hollywood Reporter on Wednesday.

TV Land confirmed Wednesday that it pulled the show in the aftermath of the June 17 shooting in Charleston, S.C., perpetrated by Dylann Roof, who was a fan of the Confederacy, known in the 19th century for its defense of slavery.

Schneider says his residuals from the show “have never been much to write home about,” but he would like the show to persist because of the old-fashioned values it promotes, such as honesty, courage, chivalry, rebelliousness and the like. Those who seek to malign the show because the famous car it featured had a Confederate flag painted on the roof are missing the point, he says.

“I am saddened that one angry and misguided individual can cause one of the most beloved television shows in the history of the medium to suddenly be seen in this light,” Schneider said Wednesday. “Are people who grew up watching the show now suddenly racists? Will they have to go through a detox and a 12-step program to kick their Dukes habit? ‘Hi... My name is John. I'm a Dukesoholic.’”

Earlier Wednesday, Schneider tweeted a photo of Roof burning a U.S. flag while wearing a Gold’s Gym shirt. “I am grossly offended by flag burning. But … is the Gold’s Gym logo to be considered a symbol of racism as well now?” he wrote.

“I’m kidding, of course, but has it really come to this?” he said in an interview with THR. “Come on, TV Land, can’t we all just watch TV?”

A week ago, Warner Bros. said it would no longer license models of the Dukes of Hazzard car, known as the General Lee, unless the licensees stripped the Confederate flag from the car’s roof, and Schneider similarly weighed in on that decision.

“Throwing this particular baby out with the bathwater seems reactionary and overly PC to me,” Schneider told THR last week. “If the flag was a symbol of racism, then Bo and Luke and Daisy and Uncle Jesse were a pack of wild racists, and that could not be further from the truth.”

Schneider starred in Dukes of Hazzard from 1979 to 1985. He recently founded John Schneider Studios in Louisiana where he is shooting Like Son, a feature film he wrote and executive produced and in which he plays a small role.

Sadly, even with millions of complaints to TV Land, they will still refuse to listen, and put the show back on, with the car intact and everything.

They dont give a damn.. THEY ARE ALL BRAINWASHED PUPPETS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!!

This country has changed for sure, not for the better. It actually breaks my heart to see how much things have changed. It has even affected TV, movies, the entire culture and no matter what anyone says we are losing our rights and freedoms. :(

This show is still available on DVD, for now. better git it while the gittin's GOOD! :angryfire

This country has changed for sure, not for the better. It actually breaks my heart to see how much things have changed. It has even affected TV, movies, the entire culture and no matter what anyone says we are losing our rights and freedoms. :(
Yep. It's pretty sad. This is not the America I remember. :(

It's ridiculous, for sure.

The show was what it was, and I saw no intent of hate in it. Just goofy fun. And even IF there were any trace of racism (which there isn't), it's history. It's like editing The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn for it's racist language. That's part of history. You can't edit history like you do your Facebook preferences; what happened, happened, and you need to deal with it.


This country has a very strange relationship with the truth. That is to say, we can't handle it anymore. And we are offended by EVERYTHING, so we have to censor EVERYTHING. There is no right in the Constitution insuring freedom from being offended. What is going to happen is that no one will be able to say anything provocative or creative or off the wall because on the slight chance that someone, somewhere, might be offended, it won't be allowed.

Just insane.

Cable companies should do the same thing to TV land

Yep. It's pretty sad. This is not the America I remember. :(This WHOLE WORLD is not the place I remember!! (Its a garbage pit now)

Makes sense now, TV land just started airing the show about a month ago and then removed it

I was thinking TV Land was airing the show since the year started

This is the 2nd show that I can remember being taken off the air for racial problems. The first Amos and Andy, first a radio program and then went to tv. We might have more. Odd world. No shows with terrible violence, sex or dialog leaves the air but a show with a flag does .

This is the 2nd show that I can remember being taken off the air for racial problems. The first Amos and Andy, first a radio program and then went to tv. We might have more. Odd world. No shows with terrible violence, sex or dialog leaves the air but a show with a flag does .

Well they have no more of those type of shows left

As An African-American and have watch this show in re-rans,I never felt that this show nor the characters in it was racist.Like the theme song said,they were good-ol' boys that never meant any harm.Besides,taking the flag away won't solve any of our problems,nor re-writing history.We must remember it,or as the saying goes "it will repeat itself".