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misterblowhole 04-12-2015, 03:01 AM First of, let me say that I absolutely love the Goldbergs, and the reason I'm nitpicking like this is because I love it so much.
But I've notice a lot of inconsistencies in timing. Here's a couple examples (incidentally, both have to do with Public Enemy)
- in the episode "The Darryl Dawkins Dance", Adam talks about how the Transformers movie just came out, which actually happened in 1986. Meanwhile, a Public Enemy poster can be seen on Barry's wall. Public Enemy didn't release their first album until 1987.
- in the episode "I Drank the Mold!", Murray and Barry discuss a Public Enemy album that contains the song "Fight the Power". The first Public Enemy album to contain "Fight the Power" was "Fear of a Black Planet" which was released in April 1990. The Goldbergs are supposed to set exclusively in the 80s.
Again, just nit-picking. Do you think the show makers are aware of these inconsistencies, and just ignore them for the sake of plot? They seem to go to painstaking detail to recreate the 80s, right down to even the smallest items in the background. So with that in mind, I find it odd that they would overlook larger things.
Wawwie 04-12-2015, 05:05 AM You're reading too much into it
All the episodes are hilarious.
https://youtu.be/VgB5_2Hcg0s
DJM77 04-12-2015, 01:30 PM Stuff like that drives me nuts!
robyrob 04-12-2015, 03:05 PM i think the whole point of the series is that it is not told as if it were actually set in the mid-eighties, but it is told from the jumbled, disjointed memory of someone that grew up in the mid-eighties, and some things are supposed to be fuzzy, mixed-up and out of sequence. It adds to the charm of the series and isn't supposed to be set in a rigid timeline.
king of comedy 04-12-2015, 03:24 PM No your'e right. The producers should know and make things right.
misterblowhole 04-13-2015, 01:05 AM i think the whole point of the series is that it is not told as if it were actually set in the mid-eighties, but it is told from the jumbled, disjointed memory of someone that grew up in the mid-eighties, and some things are supposed to be fuzzy, mixed-up and out of sequence. It adds to the charm of the series and isn't supposed to be set in a rigid timeline.
That's a very good point, and a perspective I had also considered. Although eventually the characters will have to age, and you'd think then then timeline will need to be shifted forward.
misterblowhole 04-13-2015, 01:08 AM No your'e right. The producers should know and make things right.
I think what gets me about it is how carefully they take care of the most minor details to make sure they are authentic.
Check out the sets, and they are authentically decorated to suit the 80s. Even in "I Drank the Mold!", when they go into the music store, they had racks of new-looking cassettes and CDs in their original style of casing.
Mace Dolex 04-13-2015, 02:57 AM Yeah I think the producers take huge liberties with the timeline, I've noticed too when the kids are watching primetime sitcoms when its clear daylight outside.
Look at That 70's Show for example, when it began it had a Star Wars tribute in the 1st season clearly placing the show in 1977 but the show itself lasted 8 years way past the remaining years of the 70's.
misterblowhole 04-13-2015, 11:42 AM Yeah I think the producers take huge liberties with the timeline, I've noticed too when the kids are watching primetime sitcoms when its clear daylight outside.
Look at That 70's Show for example, when it began it had a Star Wars tribute in the 1st season clearly placing the show in 1977 but the show itself lasted 8 years way past the remaining years of the 70's.
You're right. So if they follow That 70's Show template, the kids are going to grow up and go on to college, etc, but it will all take place in the 80s.
As someone who grew up in the 90s, I've hoped we'd get a chance to see the series move into the 90s as the characters get older
The only other similar series I can think of is the Wonder Years, which I think actually stayed accurate within its respective timeline
king of comedy 04-13-2015, 05:36 PM I loved The wonder years. That stayed accurate and was a million times better than Happy Days.
Jamey Greek 04-17-2015, 11:36 PM Yes and CDs came out in 1983, but they weren't commonplace until the 1990s.
Jamey Greek 04-17-2015, 11:38 PM Right now, I am watching the episode about the Carter-Mondale election, and where Barry goes on American Gladiators. The Carter-Mondale election was in 1984 while American Gladiators didn't premiere until 1989.
misterblowhole 04-18-2015, 02:20 AM Right now, I am watching the episode about the Carter-Mondale election, and where Barry goes on American Gladiators. The Carter-Mondale election was in 1984 while American Gladiators didn't premiere until 1989.
The more I think about it, I can find time issues in just about every episode.
I'm sure the show's producers are aware of this, I guess they've just decided to ignore it?
It's easy to forgive them, given the show is otherwise top-notch
First of, let me say that I absolutely love the Goldbergs, and the reason I'm nitpicking like this is because I love it so much.
But I've notice a lot of inconsistencies in timing. Here's a couple examples (incidentally, both have to do with Public Enemy)
- in the episode "The Darryl Dawkins Dance", Adam talks about how the Transformers movie just came out, which actually happened in 1986. Meanwhile, a Public Enemy poster can be seen on Barry's wall. Public Enemy didn't release their first album until 1987.
- in the episode "I Drank the Mold!", Murray and Barry discuss a Public Enemy album that contains the song "Fight the Power". The first Public Enemy album to contain "Fight the Power" was "Fear of a Black Planet" which was released in April 1990. The Goldbergs are supposed to set exclusively in the 80s.
Again, just nit-picking. Do you think the show makers are aware of these inconsistencies, and just ignore them for the sake of plot? They seem to go to painstaking detail to recreate the 80s, right down to even the smallest items in the background. So with that in mind, I find it odd that they would overlook larger things.
At the start of every episode the adult Adam tells us the date in "1980 something". So I'm pretty sure that the producers are well aware of what's going on.
I'm guessing that the reasons why they do this is A) For comedic effect B) It allows for more storytelling abilities C) So people won't be nitpicking anyway over the potential anachronisms (since they're so blatant w/ it anyway)
Right now, I am watching the episode about the Carter-Mondale election, and where Barry goes on American Gladiators. The Carter-Mondale election was in 1984 while American Gladiators didn't premiere until 1989.
America's Funniest Home Videos technically, didn't become a series until 1990. That's the one issue that I have in this regard. The Reagan-Mondale election taking place in 1984, meant that there by default, had a clearly firm date. I know that we shouldn't be taking this too seriously or literally, but still, it's kind of weird to trying to make otherwise two decisively separate events (five years apart in real life) go together.
misterblowhole 04-20-2015, 04:52 PM America's Funniest Home Videos technically, didn't become a series until 1990. That's the one issue that I have in this regard. The Reagan-Mondale election taking place in 1984, meant that there by default, had a clearly firm date. I know that we shouldn't be taking this too seriously or literally, but still, it's kind of weird to trying to make otherwise two decisively separate events (five years apart in real life) go together.
Also in that episode Adam is seen wearing a Knight Rider T-shirt, which was on from 82-86 - so that would have fit the election timeline.
Meanwhile, American Gladiators debuted in 89, so that fit the AFHV timeline
dynoguy88 07-03-2015, 03:04 PM At the start of every episode the adult Adam tells us the date in "1980 something". So I'm pretty sure that the producers are well aware of what's going on.
I'm guessing that the reasons why they do this is A) For comedic effect B) It allows for more storytelling abilities C) So people won't be nitpicking anyway over the potential anachronisms (since they're so blatant w/ it anyway)
This is exactly why they do the 1980-something format. Because if they established that the current season was in 1984 (for example), they would would have to wait four more seasons to make a reference to something that happened in 1988. Their current format allows them more freedom.
I absolutely love the show and the format. But sometimes they're a little off with references. Like one time they showed Adam with a slap-on bracelet. Those didn't exist until 1992/93. I remember being in junior high when those were huge and it was definitely the early 90's.
Jamey Greek 05-10-2016, 02:41 PM on last week's episode when Murray was watching the channel guide to see what was on at 8:30, KYW was airing Newhart and WCAU aired "ALF". KYW and WCAU didn't "switch" affiliates until 1995.
Jamey Greek 05-10-2016, 02:44 PM Also, ET and ALF were in the same episode. ET came out in 1982 and ALF premiered in 1986.
Jamey Greek 08-11-2016, 06:45 AM You know theepiside where Barry makes a bust like in the Hello video. Hello didn't come out until 1984. While Adam went to see Porky's and told his mom he'd be seeing Annie. Both movies came out in 1981.
king of comedy 08-11-2016, 03:35 PM It's still enjoyable but I wish they be more accurate. It starts off each week with "It was 1980 something but they should be more descriptive.
Jamey Greek 08-11-2016, 04:09 PM It's still enjoyable but I wish they be more accurate. It starts off each week with "It was 1980 something but they should be more descriptive.
I think that's the whole idea of the show.
One theory that I've read on another board (so please take this with a big grain of salt):
-The pilot was shot and presented to ABC with time dates stamped on the video: 1985. Later, after the show was bought and the pilot aired, Goldberg rethought the story and decided not to make a linear plot that moves from 1985 onward because he wanted to exploit the entire 1980s experience. So, from episode two onward, the narrator (an adult Adam) said it was "1980-something." Later, the pilot was adjusted to reflect this, and the 1985 date was removed.
So now, Adam Goldberg can bounce all around the '80s, from ET to Back to the Future II in the space of one week, with none of the characters looking a day older. It works as a farce but not real life. Since Goldberg is in his 40s, the notion that he "can't remember" the '80s very clearly--at least, not date-wise--is pretty difficult to swallow.
Jamey Greek 12-10-2016, 01:35 AM A couple episodes ago, they had Commando and Gimbel's going out of business in the same episode. The latter was an actual department store chain and it went out of business the same year commando came out 1987.
Jamey Greek 12-15-2016, 11:03 PM In the last episode, Adam was watching Ghostbusters 2 which came out in 1989 and he, pops, and Murray went to see Howard the duck which came out in 1986
Katinah123 02-08-2017, 12:08 AM At the start of every episode the adult Adam tells us the date in "1980 something". So I'm pretty sure that the producers are well aware of what's going on.
I'm guessing that the reasons why they do this is A) For comedic effect B) It allows for more storytelling abilities C) So people won't be nitpicking anyway over the potential anachronisms (since they're so blatant w/ it anyway)
Except the pilot episode clearly showed two dates when Adam was filming: one was August of 1985. So the show was planned to be linear, but I honestly think they didn't want to wait for all the 80s touchstones, so they dumped linear for "1980 something." Only problem with that is, there are some things that you would remember from your childhood, unless your mind was fried on drugs. Your freshman year in high school, for example. Are we to believe Adam can't remember when that started? Erica's been a senior for the last two years, and Barry was 16 when the show began, three years ago...and he's only supposed to be a junior! Plus, they've tapped into the 90s quite a few times. The Milli Vanilli episode, for example, and the America's Funniest Home Videos tribute. But in the Christmas episode, Beverly was playing Neil Diamond's Christmas album--that didn't come out until 1992. So, Goldberg is a little sloppy on his 80s references. And I gotta ask, what self-respecting high school dude would dress up like Boy George because he thinks it's "cool?" Billy Idol, maybe. Or George Michael. But Boy GEORGE?!
Katinah123 02-08-2017, 12:10 AM One theory that I've read on another board (so please take this with a big grain of salt):
-The pilot was shot and presented to ABC with time dates stamped on the video: 1985. Later, after the show was bought and the pilot aired, Goldberg rethought the story and decided not to make a linear plot that moves from 1985 onward because he wanted to exploit the entire 1980s experience. So, from episode two onward, the narrator (an adult Adam) said it was "1980-something." Later, the pilot was adjusted to reflect this, and the 1985 date was removed.
So now, Adam Goldberg can bounce all around the '80s, from ET to Back to the Future II in the space of one week, with none of the characters looking a day older. It works as a farce but not real life. Since Goldberg is in his 40s, the notion that he "can't remember" the '80s very clearly--at least, not date-wise--is pretty difficult to swallow.
Wow, I'm flattered AGAIN, since this, too, was my original post from the IMDB Goldbergs page!
Mace Dolex 02-10-2017, 06:43 PM I think it's safe to say the show will become very inacurrate it they start referencing Nirvana or the Macarena.
Jamey Greek 02-12-2017, 01:12 AM IN the last episode, Quicksilver came out in 1986 and Adam was wearing a Back to the Future II T-shirt
Katinah123 02-16-2017, 03:08 PM The Goldbergs is full of inaccuracies. Part of the problem is that the original pilot was clearly marked "August 1985," when Adam was filming. After the first episode, the linear direction was dropped, and "1980-something" came into play.
The idea that you can't remember stuff like when you started your freshman year in high school is ridiculous. Yet, you can recall every word of discussion and conversation that occurred back then? Even what you wore and what others wore? How odd your memory is so bad, you mix up Charles and Diana's wedding with something that happened in 1989...but you can still remember all the other details.
They've dipped into the 90s quite a bit. During the Christmas episode, Beverly was playing a Neil Diamond Christmas album that wasn't released until 1992. The Milli/Vanilli scandal didn't break nationally until 1990, not 1989--though that's when the lip-synching debacle happened. The New Kids on the Block didn't become a sensation until the 90s. And are we to believe there were NO Chinese restaurants in Philly in the 80s? Every mall had a couple, come on.
The 1980-something premise will eventually paint them into a corner. Erica's now in her second year as a senior. Barry was 16 when the show began--four years ago. Adam's getting older looking, and when George Segal kicks off, will Adam "not remember" when that happened, either?
IllinoisTVFan 02-16-2017, 03:17 PM Actually, New Kids were popular around 1988 so that's not too off. I was in high school in 1988, as a senior and there were people talking about them. As for the different time, it was said they did that to make the show more about the 80's than a particular time.
Jamey Greek 02-23-2017, 09:35 PM In last night's episode, Beverly made a reference to My Two Dad's and the agent said that there is an audition for Meatballs II. Meatballs II came out in 1984 while My Two Dad's premiered in 1987.
Also in the episode Adam posed with the communicator from Quantum Leap. QL premiered in 1989.
Jamey Greek 03-30-2017, 03:09 PM In last night's episode, Jackie and Adam were wearing Spaceballs and Lost Boys T-shirts. Both movies came out in 1987, while Lainey said she wanted to stay home and watch Dallas and mentioned who shot JR? It happened in the early 80s.
Jamey Greek 03-30-2017, 03:33 PM I think what gets me about it is how carefully they take care of the most minor details to make sure they are authentic.
Check out the sets, and they are authentically decorated to suit the 80s. Even in "I Drank the Mold!", when they go into the music store, they had racks of new-looking cassettes and CDs in their original style of casing.
CDs actually came out in 1983.
Katinah123 03-30-2017, 04:31 PM In last night's episode, Jackie and Adam were wearing Spaceballs and Lost Boys T-shirts. Both movies came out in 1987, while Lainey said she wanted to stay home and watch Dallas and mentioned who shot JR? It happened in the early 80s.
The "who shot JR cliffhanger" was in September 1980, so the episode REALLY jumped around quite a bit last night. I think 1980 is the earliest it's ever been.
The continuity error that seriously bothered me was Erica singing in the rain juxtaposed (http://forums.previously.tv/topic/55911-s04e20-the-dynamic-duo/#comment-3158174) with Adam and Pops making a movie on a bright sunny day.
Jamey Greek 05-04-2017, 11:59 AM In last night's episode, it was about The Day After and the movie came out in 1983 and Barry even held a TV Guide that plainly said 1983 on the cover and Murray was watching Jeopardy which premiered in 1984 but it had the 1991-1997 set I believe and Wind Beneath my Wings came out in 1997 and also the video that Adam did on Erica had her birth and her birthday parties and such and infancy and stuff and video cameras did not exist in the 1960s and 1970s when Erica was a baby.
Katinah123 05-04-2017, 12:49 PM Actually, Wind Beneath my Wings came out in 1988, but they were definitely all over the map, especially with The Day After. The Day After was actually shown on ABC on November 20, 1983, not May 3 1980-something. They're really desperate to cover the 80s. And you're completely right about the video cameras. If Erica's 18 in 1980 something, even in 1988, that means she was born in 1970--and there were no personal camcorders available then. BIG mistake!
Actually, Wind Beneath my Wings came out in 1988, but they were definitely all over the map, especially with The Day After. The Day After was actually shown on ABC on November 20, 1983, not May 3 1980-something. They're really desperate to cover the 80s. And you're completely right about the video cameras. If Erica's 18 in 1980 something, even in 1988, that means she was born in 1970--and there were no personal camcorders available then. BIG mistake!
I'm assuming that the producers and writers have always been intentionally anachronistic (and not necessarily simply lazy) for the sake of being more flexible with the '80s homages/nostalgia. Otherwise, they would more or less be limited by just going by a singular year every season.
In last night's episode, it was about The Day After and the movie came out in 1983 and Barry even held a TV Guide that plainly said 1983 on the cover and Murray was watching Jeopardy which premiered in 1984 but it had the 1991-1997 set I believe and Wind Beneath my Wings came out in 1997 and also the video that Adam did on Erica had her birth and her birthday parties and such and infancy and stuff and video cameras did not exist in the 1960s and 1970s when Erica was a baby.
Well, the show is clearly set sometime between 1981 and 1989, because Ronald Reagan was the president during those years, and Barry dropped a mention that he was the president at their "current" time.
Jamey Greek 05-20-2017, 01:14 PM Actually, Wind Beneath my Wings came out in 1988, but they were definitely all over the map, especially with The Day After. The Day After was actually shown on ABC on November 20, 1983, not May 3 1980-something. They're really desperate to cover the 80s. And you're completely right about the video cameras. If Erica's 18 in 1980 something, even in 1988, that means she was born in 1970--and there were no personal camcorders available then. BIG mistake!
That's what I meant. I was thinking about Jeopardy
Jamey Greek 05-20-2017, 01:18 PM In the season finale: Adam was holding a copy of Police Academy 4 which was a rerelease from the late 90s and he made the comment about not remembering years and all that stuff.
Also, in the ep where Mr. Glasscock showed the commercial from ICS, Sally Struthers basically refilmed the commercial and it showed Sally Struthers the way she looks now. They could have cut a commercial of hers from the 80s from YouTube and put it on a disc and put it on a VHS tape.
In the season finale: Adam was holding a copy of Police Academy 4 which was a rerelease from the late 90s and he made the comment about not remembering years and all that stuff.
Also, in the ep where Mr. Glasscock showed the commercial from ICS, Sally Struthers basically refilmed the commercial and it showed Sally Struthers the way she looks now. They could have cut a commercial of hers from the 80s from YouTube and put it on a disc and put it on a VHS tape.
Also in that particular episode, Adam and his new girlfriend Jackie go to the theater to see Police Academy 5, which was first released on March 19, 1988. And then in a later scene, Erica and Geoff are playing with their Game Boys, which were released in North America on July 31, 1989.
Jamey Greek 10-05-2017, 12:58 PM On last night's episode, the VCR in Doc's classroom was a late 90s model.
Katinah123 10-05-2017, 01:25 PM Not only that, but Barry was celebrating his 16th birthday in the first episode of the series, three years ago. That would make him 19 and just a senior in high school? Pity poor Troy Gentile, who has to shave his chest AND his back in order to appear younger, but he can't do much about his rapidly receding hairline.
They used shots from George Segal's "King Rat" last night, which is the first movie I ever saw him in.
Jamey Greek 10-05-2017, 01:32 PM Not only that, but Barry was celebrating his 16th birthday in the first episode of the series, three years ago. That would make him 19 and just a senior in high school? Pity poor Troy Gentile, who has to shave his chest AND his back in order to appear younger, but he can't do much about his rapidly receding hairline.
They used shots from George Segal's "King Rat" last night, which is the first movie I ever saw him in.
I was 19 and a senior in high school. I got held back
Katinah123 10-05-2017, 03:09 PM I was 19 and a senior in high school. I got held back
If memory serves me, Barry wasn't kept back.
Jamey Greek 10-18-2017, 01:16 PM In a clip I don't remember seeing before probably from tonight's episode, Adam was wearing a bolo tie and made a pretty in pink reference that came out in 1986/87 while Dave Kim and them were wearing hats from the Devo Whip it video from 1980.
dynoguy88 10-19-2017, 02:16 PM And you're completely right about the video cameras. If Erica's 18 in 1980 something, even in 1988, that means she was born in 1970--and there were no personal camcorders available then. BIG mistake!
No personal camcorders. But there were still mini movie cameras that you could record and then watch on a projector and those could be transferred to video tapes, even in the 80's.
My sister was born in 1977 and I was born in 1980. All our baby movies were off those kinds of cameras (in color with sound) and they were put to VHS tapes as a kid.
Jamey Greek 10-20-2017, 01:27 AM No personal camcorders. But there were still mini movie cameras that you could record and then watch on a projector and those could be transferred to video tapes, even in the 80's.
My sister was born in 1977 and I was born in 1980. All our baby movies were off those kinds of cameras (in color with sound) and they were put to VHS tapes as a kid.
I am well aware of that but Erica's videos sure as hell did not look like they were made on those cameras!
Jamey Greek 11-16-2017, 11:29 AM On last night's episode we saw the ABC Saturday Morning "After these messages" bumper which came out in the late 80s and then the commercial for the ET game which came out in the early 80s. Which tanked and let to Atari going bankrupt
Jamey Greek 11-16-2017, 11:36 AM Also the episode where Bev and Murray renew their vows, The royal wedding was in 1981 while Family Ties premiered in 1982
dynoguy88 11-28-2017, 02:20 PM On last night's episode we saw the ABC Saturday Morning "After these messages" bumper which came out in the late 80s and then the commercial for the ET game which came out in the early 80s. Which tanked and let to Atari going bankrupt
I noticed that too in regards to the video games. A couple seasons ago, Adam was religiously playing Nintendo (power glove, Barry messing up his Legends of Zelda game) so I thought it was weird they went way back to the early 80's to get that ET Atari game.
I could of swore the Saturday morning "After these messages" bumper was very early 90's. But I went back and checked and they indeed started in 1988.
On last night's episode we saw the ABC Saturday Morning "After these messages" bumper which came out in the late 80s and then the commercial for the ET game which came out in the early 80s. Which tanked and let to Atari going bankrupt
The movie Wall Street, which was released on December 11, 1987 was juxtaposed with the release of the infamous ET video game, which in real life, was released in December 1982.
Jamey Greek 12-04-2017, 01:57 AM Speaking of video games. Adam was playing Burgertime with a Nintendo controller and they never had a Nintendo release!
Jamey Greek 03-05-2018, 01:07 PM I noticed some in the 90s spinoff where Mr. Glasscott was opening a bottle of Crystal Pepsi on his desk and it was a fad from 1992 and didn't come back until two years ago while his niece was a Backstreet Boys fan. And was wearing a Backstreet Boys t-shirt. The band came out in 1997 with their debut album and she sang "I want it that way" from the Millenium album and it came out in 1999.
In the most recent episode, "MTV Spring Break" (http://forums.previously.tv/topic/68463-s05e18-mtv-spring-break/?tab=comments#comment-4208499), Adam tells his parents about this new show called Ripley's Believe It or Not!. Ripley's... as hosted by Jack Palance debuted in 1982 (and lasted until 1986). MTV started their annual Spring Break coverage in 1986 (https://www.gq.com/story/mtv-spring-break-vj-alan-hunter), four years after that new Ripley's... show started.
Jamey Greek 04-12-2018, 04:30 PM In the most recent episode, "MTV Spring Break" (http://forums.previously.tv/topic/68463-s05e18-mtv-spring-break/?tab=comments#comment-4208499), Adam tells his parents about this new show called Ripley's Believe It or Not!. Ripley's... as hosted by Jack Palance debuted in 1982 (and lasted until 1986). MTV started their annual Spring Break coverage in 1986 (https://www.gq.com/story/mtv-spring-break-vj-alan-hunter), four years after that new Ripley's... show started.
Well when did RBON get canned? It probably did in the fall of 1986
Jamey Greek 04-12-2018, 04:31 PM Johnny had a copy of a movie called Poochinski and the Poochinski pilot wasn't until 1990
In the episode "Call Me When You Get There" from Season 1, Murray wants to use the VCR to record the Philadelphia Phillies' World Series game. Meanwhile, Beverly wants to get a Life Alert device for Pops. And Barry in that episode is featured listening to Run-DMC's "Tricky".
The Phillies made the World Series twice in the '80s: 1980 and 1983. Since Murray mentions Howard Cosell, it would be safe to assume that it's the 1983 series. The '80 World Series was broadcast by NBC and the '83 Series was on ABC, with Howard Cosell calling the games with Al Michaels and Earl Weaver. Then again, Murray mentions Dickie Nolls (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/n/nolesdi01.shtml), who was on the Phillies for their 1980 team, but not in '83.
Meanwhile, the Life Alert system was founded in 1987, the same year that "Tricky" was released. And at the very end Barry and Murray respectively, mention the shows Knight Rider and TJ Hooker, which both premiered in 1982.
The Season 5 episode "Jackie Likes Star Trek" (https://thegoldbergs.wikia.com/wiki/Jackie_Likes_Star_Trek) could theoretically take place on Halloween night, 1988. During the episode, Jackie mentions that there are thus far, four Star Trek films and two series. Star Trek: The Next Generation premiered in September 1987. Meanwhile, the fifth Star Trek film, The Final Frontier wouldn't arrive until June 1989.
Jamey Greek 06-21-2018, 10:10 PM The Season 5 episode "Jackie Likes Star Trek" (https://thegoldbergs.wikia.com/wiki/Jackie_Likes_Star_Trek) could theoretically take place on Halloween night, 1988. During the episode, Jackie mentions that there are thus far, four Star Trek films and two series. Star Trek: The Next Generation premiered in September 1987. Meanwhile, the fifth Star Trek film, The Final Frontier wouldn't arrive until June 1989.
And in that episode, Adam was holding a copy of Time Magazine with Reagan on the cover promoting the Star Wars initiative
Jamey Greek 07-01-2018, 05:15 PM Goldbergs creator Adam Goldber said he plans to end The Goldbergs with Adam’s graduation from high school. Yet says Goldbergs plans to stay in the 80s Adam Goldberg was born in 1976 and graduated in 1994
Jamey Greek 11-01-2018, 05:06 PM In last night’s episode Erica sang the jingles to pull ups and meow mix which did not come out until the 90s.
Jamey Greek 12-13-2018, 10:09 AM In last night’s episode, Die Hard came out during Christmas when in reality it actually came out in July of 1988. Even though it took place during the holidays. It came out in July of 1988. Also, Adam and Marvin were going to see Die Hard 2 but it did not come out until 1990. Adam said he was going to see “ Ishtar” and then bail. Ishtar came out in 1987.
In last night’s episode, Die Hard came out during Christmas when in reality it actually came out in July of 1988. Even though it took place during the holidays. It came out in July of 1988. Also, Adam and Marvin were going to see Die Hard 2 but it did not come out until 1990. Adam said he was going to see “ Ishtar” and then bail. Ishtar came out in 1987.
They kind of cheated (http://forums.previously.tv/topic/88655-s06e10-yippe-ki-yay-melon-farmer/?tab=comments#comment-4929058) regarding when Die Hard first showed up on broadcast network television. Die Hard (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/reference) (in its "edited for television form") was first broadcast on the Fox Network in 1991.
Jamey Greek 01-10-2019, 06:09 PM Also, at the beginning of the episode, Murray and Pops were watching The All-new Dating Game which premiered in 1986 and Adam was wearing an Airplane[I] t-shirt which came out in 1980 and the show crossed over [I]The Wedding Singer which was set in 1985.
It's pretty save to assume that Schooled is going to use the same loose-floating timeline as on The Goldbergs. The pilot episode mentioned Zima (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zima_(drink)), which was introduced in 1993. A song that was predominately "Today" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_(The_Smashing_Pumpkins_song)) by the Smashing Pumpkins was released in September 1993. The pilot seems to imply that what happens takes place roughly just before 1994 since it's implied that Kurt Cobain was still alive (he would commit suicide in April 1994).
Jamey Greek 01-18-2019, 12:56 PM It's pretty save to assume that Schooled is going to use the same loose-floating timeline as on The Goldbergs. The pilot episode mentioned Zima (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zima_(drink)), which was introduced in 1993. A song that was predominately "Today" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_(The_Smashing_Pumpkins_song)) by the Smashing Pumpkins was released in September 1993. The pilot seems to imply that what happens takes place roughly just before 1994 since it's implied that Kurt Cobain was still alive (he would commit suicide in April 1994).
Matt Ryan would not be in high school until the fall of 1999. He was born in 1985.
dynoguy88 01-18-2019, 02:46 PM It's pretty save to assume that Schooled is going to use the same loose-floating timeline as on The Goldbergs. The pilot episode mentioned Zima (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zima_(drink)), which was introduced in 1993. A song that was predominately "Today" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_(The_Smashing_Pumpkins_song)) by the Smashing Pumpkins was released in September 1993. The pilot seems to imply that what happens takes place roughly just before 1994 since it's implied that Kurt Cobain was still alive (he would commit suicide in April 1994).
And the second episode revolved around the plot of the movie, "She's all that," which didn't come out until 1999, not long before the whole Y2K thing.
So, I assumed from the pilot that it takes place in the early to mid-90's. But apparently, it's just 1990-something. Like the Goldbergs, only the following decade.
Jamey Greek 01-24-2019, 07:09 PM And the second episode revolved around the plot of the movie, "She's all that," which didn't come out until 1999, not long before the whole Y2K thing.
So, I assumed from the pilot that it takes place in the early to mid-90's. But apparently, it's just 1990-something. Like the Goldbergs, only the following decade.
Yes and as I stated. Matt Ryan was born in 1985 and would be a freshman in high school in 1999. There were imac’s in the classroom. They would come out in 1998 and Glasscott was showing a scale model of their new computer lab which had imac’s Galore. There was an early 90s model computer in glasscott’s office.
Jamey Greek 01-31-2019, 08:00 PM Last night’s episode was centered around Major League it came out in 1989 and Mellor was working at a camp for olympics trainees in 1988.
They kind of cheated in the most recent episode about Adam starting a fan club for the movie Highlander. Towards the end of the episode, Johnny Atkins tells Adam that he has a bootleg tape of Highlander II, which was released in 1991. Bare in mind, that according to IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102034/locations), principal filming started on March 1, 1990. Also, Erica mentions to Adam about wanting to watch Urkel. Family Matters premiered in 1989 and the Urkel character made his debut (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIOajVnzs18) in the 12th episode (https://familymatters.fandom.com/wiki/Laura%27s_First_Date), airing on December 15.
Katinah123 02-21-2019, 02:45 AM What I want to know is, how old is Barry supposed to be?
Jamey Greek 02-25-2019, 11:12 PM Also Schooled can very well be set in the late 90s. Matt Ryan in real life was a freshman in high school in 1999. She’s All That came out in 1999. They use iMacs and stuff. However, both Glasscott and Lainey have early 90s model computers. All Star and Mambo No. 5 both came out in 1999. Gettin’ Jiggy with It and That Don’t Inpress Me Much both came out in 1998. The next episode will be a Kris’s Kross episode. That song came out in 1992.
Jamey Greek 02-28-2019, 09:47 PM They kind of cheated in the most recent episode about Adam starting a fan club for the movie Highlander. Towards the end of the episode, Johnny Atkins tells Adam that he has a bootleg tape of Highlander II, which was released in 1991. Bare in mind, that according to IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102034/locations), principal filming started on March 1, 1990. Also, Erica mentions to Adam about wanting to watch Urkel. Family Matters premiered in 1989 and the Urkel character made his debut (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIOajVnzs18) in the 12th episode (https://familymatters.fandom.com/wiki/Laura%27s_First_Date), airing on December 15.
And they used the early to mid 80s ABC graphics.
Jamey Greek 02-28-2019, 09:48 PM In last night’s episode, they took Gleb to see Rocky IV it came out in 1985. Perfect Strangers premiered in March 1986. They also used the 4th season open.
I'll admit the show has a ton of time inconsistencies, but they get away with it being 1980 something.
If they have a theater like I did in my old home town. They would play movies about 6-7 months after it's original theatrical run. You could go to that theater and see it for a buck. That's the only way I could ever back them seeing Rocky IV in 86' as opposed to 85' though.
They kind of cheated in the most recent episode about Adam starting a fan club for the movie Highlander. Towards the end of the episode, Johnny Atkins tells Adam that he has a bootleg tape of Highlander II, which was released in 1991. Bare in mind, that according to IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102034/locations), principal filming started on March 1, 1990. Also, Erica mentions to Adam about wanting to watch Urkel. Family Matters premiered in 1989 and the Urkel character made his debut (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIOajVnzs18) in the 12th episode (https://familymatters.fandom.com/wiki/Laura%27s_First_Date), airing on December 15.
I'm not sure if you noticed Adam also told Johnny get ready to be sorely disappointed. It almost insinuates that Adam already seen Highlander II. I'm gonna guess that Johnny had the workprint which was pretty cool. He was Adam's bootleg VHS tape dealer. He even had stuff in that locker that I wanted.lol
IllinoisTVFan 03-14-2019, 04:17 PM I'll admit the show has a ton of time inconsistencies, but they get away with it being 1980 something.
If they have a theater like I did in my old home town. They would play movies about 6-7 months after it's original theatrical run. You could go to that theater and see it for a buck. That's the only way I could ever back them seeing Rocky IV in 86' as opposed to 85' though.
Same here, we had several budget theaters where for a buck you could see older movies that were already on video or about to be. I went to the theater a lot during my junior and senior years (and right after I graduated in January).
Same here, we had several budget theaters where for a buck you could see older movies that were already on video or about to be. I went to the theater a lot during my junior and senior years (and right after I graduated in January).
I'm really glad someone else had theaters like that to go to as well. It was a real fun way of going out and doing something for inexpensive. I honestly spent a good portion of the 90's in that theater I talked about. It's where I got to see one of my favorite movies for the first time. I'd go as far as saying I went and seen Halloween 6 there 7 times in it's two week run. I even went and seen Jurassic Park there 3 times in the same day.lol
IllinoisTVFan 03-14-2019, 09:06 PM I'm really glad someone else had theaters like that to go to as well. It was a real fun way of going out and doing something for inexpensive. I honestly spent a good portion of the 90's in that theater I talked about. It's where I got to see one of my favorite movies for the first time. I'd go as far as saying I went and seen Halloween 6 there 7 times in it's two week run. I even went and seen Jurassic Park there 3 times in the same day.lol
It was a really good way to see movies, especially when I was older and wanted to go with friends. We often then went to a fast food restaurant afterwards which was fun as a teen.
It was a really good way to see movies, especially when I was older and wanted to go with friends. We often then went to a fast food restaurant afterwards which was fun as a teen.
I would do something similar with my friends in my teenage years. We'd all go to the theater and usually hit up the pizza buffet place.
IllinoisTVFan 03-15-2019, 01:49 PM It was a great time to be a teenager. That's one reason I relate to John Hughes films, that was me and my friends. Plus around 16-17 they stopped carding me so I could go see R movies (I saw Coming to America during this time).
I got away with seeing a few R rated movies in my early years there. Mainly when my friends big sister was working. So I got to see a lot of early 90's horror and comedy I wouldn't have otherwise.
IllinoisTVFan 03-15-2019, 06:15 PM Yeah I got to see many R films, mostly R for nudity and language.
It was usually language and violence for me. Except for Mallrats when I saw that.
IllinoisTVFan 03-16-2019, 02:13 PM I think for me it was usually comedies and R comedies usually mean nudity and/or language. I remember when I could first go into R movies with nudity and it was a shock. R movies just that way due to language to me are a bit different.
I wasn't allowed to watch R rated movies at home. So going and seeing something like Kingpin was amazing to me. Otherwise I would of had to go secretly rent it on VHS. Then take it to a friend's house that had a VCR in their room to watch it. Which I did a bunch of times when Scream came out on home video.
DJM77 03-16-2019, 10:51 PM I wasn't allowed to watch R rated movies at home. So going and seeing something like Kingpin was amazing to me.
I think Kingpin had a PG-13 rating.
I think Kingpin had a PG-13 rating.
Nope official rating was R for crude-sex related humor. Just think about it some more and you'll understand why it got a R rating.
DJM77 03-17-2019, 01:27 PM Nope official rating was R for crude-sex related humor. Just think about it some more and you'll understand why it got a R rating.
This says that the original theatrical cut was given a PG-13 rating, but that the extended US DVD got an R rating.
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=2308
I do remember seeing the movie in the theater and there was a family there that was doing some grumbling early on in the movie. They all got up and left right after Roy had sex with his landlady.
Jamey Greek 04-11-2019, 10:32 PM In Last Night’s episode, at the beginning there was a clip of The $20,000 Pyramid which got canned in 1980. The Michael Larson incident on Press Your Luck occurred in the spring of 1984 and The George Michael Sports Machine would premiere that fall. Same would go for Jeopardy! Kim asks Barry out to see No Way Out which would come out in 1987. The same year Win Lose or Draw and Finders Keepers premiered. Tic Tac Dough would be cancelled in 1986 due to the fact that coincidentally that and it’s sister show Joker’s Wild as well as Family Feud would be displaced by Jeopardy! and Wheel of Fortune. Wheel would in fact knock Feud out as the #1 syndicated show on 1984. As a result, Dawson’s Feud got canned in 1985 and The Ray Combs version of the show would premiere in 1988.
Jamey Greek 04-11-2019, 10:56 PM Also, George Michael’s Sports Machine would not be widely syndicated u til 1991. Philadelphia would not get an NBC O&O until 1995 when WCAU became an NBC affiliate. Adam makes a reference to winning a trip to Orlando where you can “Ride the Movies”. Universal Studios Florida would not open until 1990.
Jamey Greek 10-18-2019, 11:24 AM Terminator and The Fat Boys song would come out in 1984 and the Short Circuit 2 poster was on Adam’s bedroom wall. Short Circuit would not come out until 1986 and Short Circuit 2 would come out in 1988
Katinah123 10-18-2019, 12:08 PM They also referenced Animal House, released in 1976. By 1984 (established because of the Terminator reference), toga parties were on their way out, and Belushi had already been dead two years. Eventually, they're going to run out of 80s touchstones. Both Barry and Erika had two senior years of high school, and Barry's hairline is creeping alarmingly backward. Plus, Adam himself is very mature for a junior in high school. Considering the first episode celebrated Barry's 16th birthday, that was 7 years ago. He'd be at least 23 now!
Jamey Greek 10-30-2019, 05:40 PM Not to mention [IThe Rocky Horror Picture Show[/I] came out in 1975.
dynoguy88 10-31-2019, 09:07 AM Both Barry and Erika had two senior years of high school, and Barry's hairline is creeping alarmingly backward. Plus, Adam himself is very mature for a junior in high school. Considering the first episode celebrated Barry's 16th birthday, that was 7 years ago. He'd be at least 23 now!
This is something that isn't all that uncommon. Many sitcoms keep the kid characters in high school for as long as they possibly can since college story lines can become difficult to balance with what has already been established with the show.
For instance, the kids on 'That 70's Show' started out as sophomores, possibly juniors when the show began and it was about 8 more seasons before they finally graduated high school.
The most recent Thanksgiving episode has Murray complaining about Beverly taping over the Philadelphia Eagles game. Now, the Eagles did in fact play on Thanksgiving Day (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_Thanksgiving_Day#1970%E2%80%932005) during the '80s at least once, which was in 1989.
They also referenced Animal House, released in 1976. By 1984 (established because of the Terminator reference), toga parties were on their way out, and Belushi had already been dead two years. Eventually, they're going to run out of 80s touchstones. Both Barry and Erika had two senior years of high school, and Barry's hairline is creeping alarmingly backward. Plus, Adam himself is very mature for a junior in high school. Considering the first episode celebrated Barry's 16th birthday, that was 7 years ago. He'd be at least 23 now!
True, but Animal House did influence (https://books.google.com/books?id=-VXFAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA57&lpg=PA57&dq=movies+inspired+by+animal+house+revenge+of+the+nerds+Up+the+Academy&source=bl&ots=tEaysMa8Db&sig=ACfU3U1XkBEtArHdDnVjTkt-LLA2v1ea9Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQy9bV3_rlAhVOOq0KHbJYBQgQ6AEwEnoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=movies%20inspired%20by%20animal%20house%20revenge%20of%20the%20nerds%20Up%20the%20Academy&f=false) a lot of film comedies (basically, raunchy, anti-establishment, youth-oriented movies) in the next few years. I honestly don't think that we would've gotten Porky's, Up the Academy, or Revenge of the Nerds (https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/earwolf/the-canon/e/50928011) (which came out in 1984) without the success of Animal House.
Jamey Greek 10-22-2020, 06:56 PM On Last night's 8:30 episode. The book club talks about Harry Hamlin being People Magazine's sexiest man alive. Which he would be in 1987. Adam made a reference to where he belongs on the hood of a car in a White snake video. Here I go Again would also come out in 1987. Super Mario 2 would come out in 1988 and the Japanese version of SM3 would come out that fall.
Jamey Greek 10-22-2020, 08:23 PM Adam referenced Working Girl which came out in 1988.
This doesn't exactly have anything to do with the decade of the 1980s, but the inconsistency with Beverly's character. In the most recent episode, "Dee-Vorced", had Beverly simply upset that the mother of Adam's girlfriend, Brea, is divorced. But Beverly didn't have a problem with Barry dating Lainey even though her folks weren't together anymore. Beverly only got upset over the prospects of Barry and Lainey getting married because she felt that they were way too young.
Jamey Greek 01-28-2021, 12:18 PM In Last nights episode LA Law premiered in 1986 while Cocoon cane out in 1985.
Jamey Greek 01-28-2021, 12:37 PM And Adam was seeing Cocoon January 27, 1980-something. Cocoon came out in the summer of 1985.
In the episode "Bevy's Big Murder Mystery Party", Murray mentions watching The Dukes of Hazzard after Adam and Beverly came back from watching the movie Clue. The Dukes of Hazzard aired its final episode in February 1985. Clue was released in December of 1985. This is of course, assuming that Murray was referring to first-run episodes of The Dukes and not reruns.
Jamey Greek 01-29-2021, 09:14 PM In the episode "Bevy's Big Murder Mystery Party", Murray mentions watching The Dukes of Hazzard after Adam and Beverly came back from watching the movie Clue. The Dukes of Hazzard aired its final episode in February 1985. Clue was released in December of 1985. This is of course, assuming that Murray was referring to first-run episodes of The Dukes and not reruns.
The same thing happened on mixed-ish which is supposed to be set in 1986. They were planning on watching Dukes that night when it got cancelled in 1985.
Jamey Greek 02-04-2021, 05:45 PM In lasts nights episode New Coke is mentioned and Murray is watching Matlock New Coke was a short lived experiment from 1985 while Matlock premiered in 1986.
Jamey Greek 03-05-2021, 05:18 PM In this past Wednesday's episode Barry mentions about American Gladiators being cancelled when it lasted well into the 90s.
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