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Blackout
01-03-2015, 11:08 PM
in my opinion there are only TWO episodes i find myself not watching the entirety of


1-Will gets shot. what is the purpose of his episode? to scare young kids about being shot? :lol:


2-Carlton takes those pills and looks like he's on ecstasy. this episode was awesome until he winds up in the hospital, so it's basically like half a funny episode.



I really can't think of any other episodes I didn't like. Maybe the one with the horse was pretty lame but the writers were mailing it in at that point.

irehtman
01-06-2015, 09:11 PM
All members of this show ran out of money too soon before the end of its sixth season.

DJM77
01-06-2015, 10:21 PM
All members of this show ran out of money too soon before the end of its sixth season.

Um, yeah, sure. :rolleyes:

Furienna
01-11-2015, 09:39 AM
For me, it is the one when Will has gotten a new look while staying with his mother in Philly over the summer. I so hated how Uncle Phil reacted to this and turned his cousins against him. Not to mention what a lousy friend Jazz was, and how Uncle Phil even grounded Hilary, who already was an adult! There were some other episodes out there, which also had a share of stupid moments, but this one was the worst of them all.

irehtman
01-17-2015, 06:59 PM
The series finale was the worst, even if we think it ended well or not, the way they finished the series was too weak.

Blackout
01-18-2015, 03:29 PM
at least they didn't kill anyone off at the end lol

JO Sweet Heart
02-16-2015, 10:45 PM
I recently saw the episode when Will was going to marry his girlfriend. Instead its his mom and the girl's dad who get married. What them two brain dead parents obviously did not get is that when you have kids, them kids are to be first in your life. As if Will having a dead beat dad was not enough. His mother just had to go and be a tramp too? Will should have washed his hands on her too!!!

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Furienna
02-17-2015, 07:28 AM
That was a weird episode, yes. Neither Lisa or her dad were seen again though, so I guess that we were supposed to have forgotten about it when the next season started.

EccentricGenius
10-16-2017, 09:15 PM
The worst episode of "The Fresh Prince Of Bel Air," without a shadow of a doubt, is "I, Clownius" (season six). A psychotic circus clown named Juggles holds Uncle Phil, Carlton, and Will hostage. Need I say more?

Thanks for posting, Blackout! Enjoy your evening!

EccentricGenius
10-16-2017, 09:24 PM
The series finale was the worst, even if we think it ended well or not, the way they finished the series was too weak.

I agree with you completely, irehtman. The series finale ("I, Done") was disappointing...it seemed like everyone was moving on to greener pastures except Will. I would've wanted to see Will return home to West Philly--a little older but a lot smarter, with a new outlook on life--caring for his mother instead of remaining in Southern California.

irehtman
11-01-2017, 03:44 PM
I agree with you completely, irehtman. The series finale ("I, Done") was disappointing...it seemed like everyone was moving on to greener pastures except Will. I would've wanted to see Will return home to West Philly--a little older but a hell of a lot smarter, with a new outlook on life--caring for his mother instead of remaining in Southern California.

Although, I think "moving on to greener pastures" might be too erratic. But they insist that being tired was the reason, then they need to be more careful completely.

Mark Mallard
12-06-2017, 12:45 AM
I have never liked "Love at First Fight" from Season 1. The only scene I can recall enjoying is the dinner table scene during which Carlton ribs Will for not being able to impress Kayla. Other than that and the Yo Mama fight between Will and Kayla, this episode plays out more like a soap opera than a sitcom.

EccentricGenius
12-06-2017, 11:51 PM
I have never liked "Love at First Fight" from Season 1. The only scene I can recall enjoying is the dinner table scene during which Carlton ribs Will for not being able to impress Kayla. Other than that and the Yo Mama fight between Will and Kayla, this episode plays out more like a soap opera than a sitcom.

Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more, Mark Mallard..."Love At First Fight" (guest-starring "A Different World" alum Jasmine Guy) is an uneven episode from "Fresh Prince's" inaugural season; despite Jasmine's earnest (but lovely) performance, there were some moments in that episode that nearly ventured into "after-school special" territory.

My favorite moment in "Love At First Fight" occurs when Vivian reveals to both Kayla and Will that she dropped out of high school and left town with a guy; Vivian also confessed that she cleaned hotel rooms by day and attended night school to obtain her diploma. I've always wondered if Vivian ever revealed her secret to Philip and their kids (Hilary, Carlton, Ashley, and Nicky). It also would've been interesting to see the guy Vivian ran away with (as a teenaged, high school dropout) resurface in her life unexpectedly in a subsequent episode, angry and jealous over their breakup but still holding a torch for her.

Too bad Kayla never appeared in another episode...it would've been entertaining to see Kayla and Will reunite several years later, both older and wiser...perhaps the two would've ended up together as a couple.

Thanks for commenting! Good night!

Furienna
12-10-2017, 03:01 PM
My problem with "Love at first sight" is Vivian's bitchy behavior, towards Kayla in particular and working class people in general.

True, it is fully explained why Kayla flunking College hit such a nerve with Vivian: it happened to be too close to her own life story. But still, she had no right to interfer with the life of one of her (adult) students like that. And actually, Vivian's life story proved that flunking at one time isn't the end of the world. After all, Vivian managed to go from a poor High School drop-out to a College professor. Even if Kayla had flunked out of College at that point, she could have tried again later on if she wanted to. Right?

But the most annoying thing about the whole episode is a line from Vivian, about how Kayla's scholarship is the difference between her becoming a doctor or a cleaning lady. And even though the show treats this like a moment of huge wisedom, it ony makes me shudder. Because she makes it sound like if you have a low-paying menial job, you're just a complete loser. And she also makes it seem like only a person with a fancy College degree counts in her snooty world, despite the fact that she turned out to have been a cleaning lady herself at one point (and we found that out in the same episode, no less). Yes, I'm aware of that this is not what the writers intended. But that is how it comes across to me, and it rubs me the wrong way.

All in all, I now dislike this episode so much, that the last time I caught it, I only watched the first half.

EccentricGenius
12-12-2017, 12:07 AM
My problem with "Love at first sight" is Vivian's bitchy behavior, towards Kayla in particular and working class people in general.

True, it is fully explained why Kayla flunking College hit such a nerve with Vivian: it happened to be way too close to her own life story. But still, she had no right to interfer with the life of one of her (adult) students like that. And actually, Vivian's life story only proved that flunking at one time isn't the end of the world. After all, Vivian managed to go from a High School drop-out to a College professor. Even if Kayla had flunked College at that point, she could have tried later on if she wanted to. Right?

But the most annoying thing about the whole episode is a line from Vivian, about how Kayla's scholarship is the difference between her becoming a doctor or a cleaning lady. And even though the show treats this like a moment of huge wisdom, it ony makes me shudder. Because she makes it sound like if you have a low-paying menial job, you're just a complete loser. And she also makes it seem like only a person with a fancy College degree counts in her snooty world, despite the fact that she turned out to have been a cleaning lady herself at one point (and we found that out in the same episode, no less). Yes, I'm aware of that this is not what the writers intended. But that is how it comes across to me, and it rubs me the wrong way.

All in all, I now dislike this episode so much, that the last time I caught it, I only watched the first half.



"Love At First Fight" was indeed a disappointing episode, Furienna...as I mentioned in my initial comment, it often veers into "after-school special" territory.

Furienna
12-12-2017, 06:36 AM
I get a similar feeling from the episode, where Vivian gets hired to teach Black History at Will's and Carlton's school.

It is true that Will believed that he could ease himself through this class, because he was black, and Carlton seems to have believed that he would get special treatment, because he would have his mother as the teacher. And yes, maybe it would have been alright to give them some lessons about that. But even so, Vivian was unnecessarily shrill towards them in front of their class mates. And to make everything even worse, it is revealed that she gave more work to Will and Carlton than to the other students. She had simply expected the two black students to work much harder than the others, and she would not even explain her reasons for it before they contronted her.

And after all of this, the writers of the show still wanted us to side with Vivian, and with Uncle Phil when he chastises Will for being a "slacker", who had just expected an easy A from this "black class". Except that we can clearly see that even Carlton, who normally was a straight A student, had problems with keeping up with all the extra work, that Vivian had given them. And sure, it is true that there is more to Black History than reading Malcolm X's autobiography three times. But still, Vivian could at least have given Will credit for starting off somewhere. But nope, she just had to keep nagging at him about how lousy he was.

Needless to say, I don't care much for this episode either.

EccentricGenius
12-12-2017, 06:21 PM
I get a similar feeling from the episode, where Vivian gets hired to teach Black History at Will's and Carlton's school.

It is true that Will believed that he could ease himself through this class, because he was black, and Carlton seems to have believed that he would get special treatment, because he would have his mother as the teacher. And yes, maybe it would have been alright to give them some lessons about that. But even so, Vivian was unnecessarily shrill towards them in front of all their class mates. And to make everything even worse, it is revealed that she gave more work to Will and Carlton than to the others. She had simply expected the two black students to work harder than the others, without talking to them about it before the contronted her.

And after all of this, the writers of the show still want us to side with Vivian, and with Uncle Phil when he chastises Will for being a slacker, who had just expected an easy A from this "black class". Except that we can clearly see that even Carlton, who normally was a straight A student, had problems with keeping up with all the extra work, that Vivian had given them. And sure, it is true that there is more to Black History than reading Malcolm X's autobiography three times. But still, Vivian could at least have given Will some credit for starting somewhere. But nope, she just had to keep nagging at him about how lousy he was.

Needless to say, I don't care much for this episode either.


I actually enjoyed season one's "The Ethnic Tip" (Will suggests that Bel Air Prep add a black history course to its curriculum), Furienna. I think "The Ethnic Tip" was one of the best episodes from "Fresh Prince's" inaugural season.

Personally, I honestly think Vivian had every right to chastise Will and Carlton (Will especially) for being ignorant about their heritage. You'd think Will and Carlton would've been delighted about Bel Air Prep adding a black history course to their curriculum; instead, their Caucasian classmates--including Will's pal, Kellogg "Cornflake" Lieberbaum--actually enjoyed the course and had an understanding of African-American culture while Will and Carlton bemoaned the fact that Vivian was constantly berating them in front of their classmates (she gave both of them extra homework).

I especially enjoyed the scene near the end of "The Ethnic Tip" when Vivian criticizes Will for reading "The Autobiography Of Malcolm X" and honoring the slain civil rights icon (by hanging posters of Malcolm X on his bedroom walls and wearing his t-shirt and baseball cap regularly in public, for example) while ignoring the true meaning of the civil rights movement. That particular scene still strikes a chord with me whenever I watch "The Ethnic Tip" in syndication...Vivian really gave Will a taste of his own medicine.

During "Fresh Prince's" first season, Will tended to be a little obnoxious and disrespectful, mainly because he was still adjusting to the fact that he was living with his uncle and aunt in Bel Air.

Do you have at least one favorite episode from "Fresh Prince's" six-season run, Furienna? I know this is the wrong thread to answer this question, but I'd still like to hear from you nonetheless. My all-time favorite episodes of "Fresh Prince" are both from the sitcom's fourth season: "Papa's Got A Brand New Excuse" (Will's father resurfaces after a fourteen-year absence, much to Philip's chagrin) and "Blood Is Thicker Than Mud" (Will and Carlton attempt to gain acceptance into an African-American fraternity at ULA, only to have Carlton endure harsh treatment, and resentment, from the fraternity's president).

Enjoy your evening!

Furienna
01-14-2018, 06:14 PM
I actually enjoyed season one's "The Ethnic Tip" (Will suggests that Bel Air Prep add a black history course to its curriculum), Furienna. I think "The Ethnic Tip" was one of the best episodes from "Fresh Prince's" inaugural season.

Personally, I honestly think Vivian had every right to chastise Will and Carlton (Will especially) for being ignorant about their heritage. You'd think Will and Carlton would've been delighted about Bel Air Prep adding a black history course to their curriculum; instead, their Caucasian classmates--including Will's pal, Kellogg "Cornflake" Lieberbaum--actually enjoyed the course and had an understanding of African-American culture while Will and Carlton bemoaned the fact that Vivian was constantly berating them in front of their classmates (she gave both of them extra homework).

I especially enjoyed the scene near the end of "The Ethnic Tip" when Vivian criticizes Will for reading "The Autobiography Of Malcolm X" and honoring the slain civil rights icon (by hanging posters of Malcolm X on his bedroom walls and wearing his t-shirt and baseball cap regularly in public, for example) while ignoring the true meaning of the civil rights movement. That particular scene still strikes a chord with me whenever I watch "The Ethnic Tip" in syndication...Vivian really gave Will a taste of his own medicine.

During "Fresh Prince's" first season, Will tended to be a little obnoxious and disrespectful, mainly because he was still adjusting to the fact that he was living with his uncle and aunt in Bel Air.
Wow... Well, I guess that we simply have to agree to disagree on this one.

Vivian was bitchy to Will all through the episode, including in front of his class mates. And I don't believe that Will's and Carlton's class mates got any real understanding of the African American culture. They were just sheepishly singing some spirituals. But the script had them enjoy Vivian's class, just so they could (attempt to) make Will and Carlton look bad. And well, that didn't work on me.

And it was completely wrong that Vivian gave Will and Carlton extra homework, just because of their race. Yeah, we later find out that Vivian wanted them to take the opportunity to learn more about their heritage. Fine, but she wouldn't explain any of that to them until towards the very end of the episode. And it should be a choice to do extra homework, not a requirement. And furthermore, even a straight A student like Carlton had problems with completing that extra work. So yeah, Vivian was going nuts there.

All in all, Will was not the obnoxious one in this episode. Vivian and Philip were.

Do you have at least one favorite episode from "Fresh Prince's" six-season run, Furienna? I know this is the wrong thread to answer this question, but I'd still like to hear from you nonetheless. My all-time favorite episodes of "Fresh Prince" are both from the sitcom's fourth season: "Papa's Got A Brand New Excuse" (Will's father resurfaces after a fourteen-year absence, much to Philip's chagrin) and "Blood Is Thicker Than Mud" (Will and Carlton attempt to gain acceptance into an African-American fraternity at ULA, only to have Carlton endure harsh treatment--and resentment--from the fraternity's president).

I do like both those episodes too. But as for me having a favorite, that is hard for me to say. There are so many good episodes. "Papa Got A Brand New Excuse" is a contender though.

EccentricGenius
01-14-2018, 07:40 PM
Wow... Well, I guess that we simply have to agree to disagree on this one.

Vivian was bitchy to Will all through the episode, including in front of his class mates. And I don't believe that Will's and Carlton's class mates got any understanding of the African American culture. They were just sheepishly singing some spirituals. But the script had them enjoy Vivian's class, just so they could (attempt to) make Will and Carlton look bad. And well, that didn't work on me.

And it was completely wrong that Vivian gave Will and Carlton extra homework, just because of their race. Yeah, we find out that Vivian wanted them to take the opportunity to learn more about their heritage. But she would not explain any of that to them until towards the very end of the episode. And it should be a choice to do extra homework, not a requirement. And furthermore, even a straight A student like Carlton had problems with completing that extra work. So yeah, Vivian was going nuts.

All in all, Will was not the obnoxious one in this episode. Vivian and Philip were.


I like both those episodes too. But as for me having a favorite episode, that is hard for me to say. There are so many good episodes. "Papa Got A Brand New Excuse" is a contender though.

You're absolutely right, Furienna...we have to learn to disagree on certain topics. I appreciate--and applaud--you for sharing your two cents on this thread (and other threads). I always enjoy reading your comments...though I may disagree with some of them on occasion, I find them highly entertaining.

Thanks for commenting, Furienna. Enjoy your evening.

AMackII
01-18-2018, 03:16 PM
Six Degrees of Graduation where Will being forced to enroll into the child prodigy class & dress up as flower in the school theatre

EccentricGenius
02-02-2018, 07:25 PM
Six Degrees of Graduation where Will being forced to enroll into the child prodigy class & dress up as flower in the school theatre

I agree, AMackII! "Six Degrees Of Graduation" was surprisingly disappointing, especially for a season finale (it aired at the end of "Fresh Prince's" third season in 1993). For starters, Janet Hubert was absent from the episode (if memory serves, she had just given birth to her son, Elijah); surely, Vivian would've been present for Will and Carlton's graduation from Bel Air Prep. The only bright spot of "Six Degrees Of Graduation" was the musical number--an upbeat, hip-hop version of "You Are My Sunshine"--that Will reluctantly performs at his own graduation ceremony (in order to graduate from Bel Air Prep with Carlton and the rest of his classmates) alongside the rest of the much-younger students in Will's music class. And it was delightful to see the late, great Rosalind Cash ("The Omega Man") guest star as Will's music teacher, Miss Bassin.

Furienna
10-13-2018, 04:28 AM
I agree, AMackII! "Six Degrees Of Graduation" was surprisingly disappointing, especially for a season finale (it aired at the end of "Fresh Prince's" third season in 1993). For starters, Janet Hubert was absent from the episode (if memory serves, she had just given birth to her son, Elijah); surely, Vivian would've been present for Will and Carlton's graduation from Bel Air Prep. The only bright spot of "Six Degrees Of Graduation" was the musical number--an upbeat, hip-hop version of "You Are My Sunshine"--that Will reluctantly performs at his own graduation ceremony (in order to graduate from Bel Air Prep with Carlton and the rest of his classmates) alongside the rest of the much-younger students in Will's music class. And it was delightful to see the late, great Rosalind Cash ("The Omega Man") guest star as Will's music teacher, Miss Bassin.
I have to give the teacher some credit. When she found out that Will wouldn't graduate if he would fail her class, she gave him a last chance to improve his grade. Even if that meant that he had to take that class with much younger children.

What I don't like though is that Will's mother and Uncle Phil practically forced Will to dress up as a flower with the little kids, when it was clear that he found it embarassing.

EccentricGenius
10-26-2018, 04:12 PM
I have to give the teacher some credit. When she found out that Will wouldn't graduate if he would fail her class, she gave him a last chance to improve his grade. Even if that meant that he had to take that class with much younger children.

What I don't like though is that Will's mother and Uncle Phil practically forced Will to dress up as a flower with the little kids, when it was clear that he found it embarassing.

Simply put, Furienna: Uncle Phil and Vy (Will's mom) would've both been pissed had Will not graduated from Bel Air Prep in the summer of '93. So Will obviously didn't have a choice.

Furienna
11-05-2018, 09:37 PM
Simply put, Furienna: Uncle Phil and Vy (Will's mom) would've both been pissed had Will not graduated from Bel Air Prep in the summer of '93. So Will obviously didn't have a choice.
Yeah, but then I have to wonder if that is right. It should be Will's own choice if he wants to make that sacrifice to graduate, shouldn't it?

Furienna
11-08-2018, 02:25 AM
On a different note, I happened to re-watch a very disappointing episode recently. Somehow, I had forgotten that this one existed when I've mentioned other bad episodes. But yeah… It is the episode, where Will has to join the Bankses (except for Ashley, who has to stay at home with Geoffrey) at a casino night at a fancy Bel Air club, wins a big price, only to hear that he's expected to give the money to charity, despite that nobody had even told him about that a tradition like this existed at that club. And I have four problems with this terrible episode:

1: There's a joke from Will about Michael Jackson spending time with Maculay Culkin, implying that… well, I guess that you all know what allegations I'm thinking of here. And it was really distasteful to hear Will crack a joke like that. Even so, I guess I could have let that one slip if the rest of the episode had been good. But it turned out to just be the top of the iceberg.
2: Uncle Phil forced Will to join the rest at the casino night, and I don't get why it was so important for him to bring a reluctant Will to the function. Why couldn't he have been allowed to stay with Geoffrey and Ashley at home? I'm sorry, but I would like a good explanation for that.
3: When we get to the casino night, Aunt Viv gets a lot of compliments from two random men. This is when she should have just said "I'm sorry, but I'm a married woman". But instead, she starts giggling like a silly teenager until Uncle Phil turns up and sets things straight. That was really awkward for me to watch. People will probably think I'm exaggerating about this, but it was like she was only a moment or two away from having an affair with either one of these men. Not funny.
4: Then, Will wins a price and is expected to donate it back to charity. Despite the fact that Will had no idea that it was a tradition to donate the money, Uncle Phil treats him like he was a nasty criminal. I'm sorry, but I have to side with Will on this one. The money was his now, and he should have had the right to keep it without getting crap from others for it.

So yeah, people will probably think that I'm overthinking all of this. But still, I didn't care for this episode at all. And I'm only surprised that I managed to forget about how awful it was, even though I know that I didn't really like it before either.