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MrCleveland
12-31-2014, 11:40 AM
Reports: LeBron James could leave Cleveland and he may not like his coach

It’s LeBron James’ birthday! Look who’s 30!

Now look at all of us media buzzards diving in to bloviate as to whether LeBron James is long for Cleveland. Again. Let’s party like it’s 2009.

We spent ages talking up and down the Cleveland Cavaliers’ various woes and prominent potential, even with a lacking roster, on Monday. This team can still win a championship. This team can still vault to the top of both the Eastern Conference and the offensive efficiency rankings – perches the Toronto Raptors both currently occupy. LeBron James can still be the guy that hounds Kyle Lowry, Jimmy Butler, Kawhi Leonard, Stephen Curry or Kevin Durant in the final stages of a deciding playoff game, while still dropping 33-9-9 on the other end.

The problem so far is that the Cavs have dropped 12 of 30 to start the season, not terrible, but not ideal. They’ve also fallen into the lower third of the league in terms of defensive rating. As a result, we’re all chirping, and one Cleveland beat writer, Chris Haynes from the Cleveland Plain Dealer, even offered this on Tuesday morning:


James, who turns 30 today, has no intention of compromising his prime years playing for a sputtering organization. He can opt out of his contract at the end of the season and become a free agent.


Given the massive scrutiny he would endure if he departed Cleveland a second time, if his hand is forced, I'm told he won't hesitate to make the appropriate business decision if it means bolting.

(LeBron James, in anticipation of a giant uptick in terms of what a maximum-salaried player can make, intelligently decided to sign a two-year deal with Cleveland last summer with an opt out clause after the initial season. NBA salary rules encourage such a move; rules that are similar to the ones that also encourage Kevin Love not to sign an extension with the Cavs during the season.)

Now, this is anonymously-sourced, we don’t know how many people are doing the telling here, or even if the telling in question was from more than one person. Chris Haynes is on his first year on the Cleveland beat, which is why many in the blogosphere are scoffing at the report, but it is important to note that Haynes did fantastic work in several seasons while covering the Portland Trail Blazers.

The reason for the season, here, is James’ either tepid or spot-on reaction to questions about rookie coach David Blatt’s work so far this season from Monday:


James was asked after practice Monday if he felt Blatt was the right coach for the team, and he said: "Yeah, he's our coach, I mean, what other coach do we have?"

OK, so, there’s that, but there’s also this:


"I'm happy who we have at our helm," James said. "He's our coach. For it to make a feud between me and Blatt or the team and Blatt, it's just to sell. To sell and get people to read it and put something at the bottom of the ticker. That's all it is. It's funny, you could write those same things when we win, too. It's just write it when we lose because it looks better."

And this:


"I think my relationship with the coach continues to get better and better every day," James said, one day after the Cavaliers lost by 23 at home to the Pistons, one of the NBA's worst teams this season. "It's just two months of us being together. I don't know him fully, he doesn't know me fully, he doesn't know any of the guys fully, and that's to be expected. It's our first year together. But he has our attention."

Pick out what you want, deduce what you need, but also listen to LeBron James when he tells you that all of this nonsense (including the post you’re reading right now) is little more than fish and chip paper.

David Blatt is, currently, not coaching to his full potential. His various pro and international tournament teams featured fully flowing offenses that were gorgeous to watch, teams built around movement and the pass that led to the pass that led to the pass that led to the score. Blatt has taken a penny-wise and pound-foolish approach thus far with the Cavs, working in very orthodox ways with basic screen and roll offenses designed to make sure James, Kyrie Irving, and to a far lesser extent (in ways that aren’t his fault) Kevin Love get easy and productive initial returns.

What’s probably most telling about Blatt’s initial turn with Cleveland is that I genuinely started to write “penny-wise and pound-foolish approach with the Heat” in the prior paragraph.

James’ Cavs cannot be directly compared with the 2010-11 Miami Heat, as we wrote about yesterday. By this time in that season those Heat were a far better team than this Cleveland outfit, and while they didn’t top the Eastern Conference standings that year, the Heat did rank in the top five offensively and defensively when 82 games were said and done. Still, the parallels between Blatt and Erik Spoelstra are there. Coach Spo had two seasons under his belt prior to LeBron taking his talents to Florida (we’re not writing that again) but his offenses both with James in 2010-11 and without him in the previous two years were pedestrian and easy to guard. He eventually got better.

Blatt has already been better, just not at this level and with these sorts of players. It will take time; and while the Cavs will never be a good team defensively with that roster, they can turn into an incredibly-good offensive unit if both Blatt and his players decide to take the long view of things. That will have to be the focus, because with this personnel the defense is not going to get much better. Defense is the problem, but there is not a knockout solution for this season.

There are no killer coaches out there waiting to take over. Every sideline stalker would absolutely kill for a chance to coach LeBron, Love, and Kyrie Irving, but even the best of candidates isn’t going to solve anything. George Karl is not going to be able to patrol the paint for the Cavaliers. Michael Malone is not going to be able to close out on shooters. Your favorite Highly Regarded Assistant is not going to be able to peel about 10,000 career minutes off of LeBron’s legs in order for him to start playing devastating two-way ball against the Pistons in December.

“What other coach do we have?” may come off as tepid, but it’s also the absolute right thing to say. Nobody else is coming in that would make a major difference, so both the Cavs and Blatt are going to have to figure this out together.

LeBron James will opt out of his contract this summer in order to both make as much money as he can under NBA salary bylaws, and assess his career prospects. That’s his right. Whether or not you believe he’s making any sort of concrete decision 30 games into an 82-game season is entirely up to you.

Okay...if LeBron leaves again this time, all I can say is...Take Johnny "Leadfoot" Manziel with you!

isiahthomas
12-31-2014, 02:01 PM
I read that article a couple of days ago and I wouldn't be surprised if he left again. If he leaves again, the Cavs fans will never forgive him and he needs to stay gone and never come back. Lebron is a crybaby. Just because the team isn't doing well, he's already thinking about leaving. What he should be doing is try to continue doing his job and his teammates need to play better. I do think the coach needs to be fired because he doesn't know what he's doing and he's never been a NBA coach. Lebron should know that just because him, Kyrie, Kevin got together doesn't mean that they're gonna win a lot of games and win championships right away. It takes time for them to win and be good. The same thing happened when he got to Miami because they didn't win right away even though they did go to the finals the first year and they lost.


Cleveland needs to get some better bench players because their bench sucks. Miami did have some good bench players and that was part of the reason Miami won some championships. Lebron needs to also stop being scared to shoot the ball when the game is close sometimes at the end and he needs to dominate in scoring when his teammates aren't doing anything. Stop passing the ball so much and trying to get his teammates involved. At times he acts like he's scared to score.

MrCleveland
01-02-2015, 11:22 AM
From what I heard...LeBron was venting that day.

I know I have The Cleveland Blues, wishing to leave...but since I have been going to broadcasting school...I may leave Cleveland for a smaller city like Toledo or Dayton.

LeBron is likely to stay, but someone from my class got himself sick over the news...I have worse scenarios in my life than LeBron leaving, and this is one of them....

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isiahthomas
01-04-2015, 06:13 PM
MrCleveland, you see the Cavs lost today against Dallas in Cleveland 109-90? They also lost this past Wednesday against Milwaukee in Cleveland 96-80 LOL. Cleveland might end up going down to 4th place in their division. Lebron is gonna be out for 2 weeks and I don't see them winning any of their games without him. They gotta play Houston on ESPN Wednesday in Cleveland and I don't think they're gonna win. Kevin Love and their coach needs to go LOL.

MrCleveland
01-06-2015, 04:24 PM
MrCleveland, you see the Cavs lost today against Dallas in Cleveland 109-90? They also lost this past Wednesday against Milwaukee in Cleveland 96-80 LOL. Cleveland might end up going down to 4th place in their division. Lebron is gonna be out for 2 weeks and I don't see them winning any of their games without him. They gotta play Houston on ESPN Wednesday in Cleveland and I don't think they're gonna win. Kevin Love and their coach needs to go LOL.

Well...we lost against the worst team in the NBA!

Only a Cleveland Team can do that!

isiahthomas
01-06-2015, 04:41 PM
I saw they lost to Philadelphia hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Did you see they traded Deion Waiters to Oklahoma and they got JR Smith and Iman Shumpert from the Knicks? They also got a first round pick from the Knicks for 2019. When I watched highlights of Cleveland and Dallas on Youtube, I saw a guy that posted comments saying they need to bring back coach Mike Brown LOL. I agree with that.

MrCleveland
01-06-2015, 05:35 PM
I saw they lost to Philadelphia hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Did you see they traded Deion Waiters to Oklahoma and they got JR Smith and Iman Shumpert from the Knicks? They also got a first round pick from the Knicks for 2019. When I watched highlights of Cleveland and Dallas on Youtube, I saw a guy that posted comments saying they need to bring back coach Mike Brown LOL. I agree with that.

It may now be 51 years of futility!...Only in Cleveland...

isiahthomas
01-06-2015, 06:00 PM
MrCleveland, did you see Randall Park mall got torn down? I saw a video about it yesterday on Youtube? I posted some comments about it and I'm mad it's gone because I loved that mall. I blame ignorant blacks for the mall being gone because they were stealing stuff from the stores and fighting at the mall. I bet if Warrensville was predominately white, the mall would still be open. I also don't know why the stores and restaurants that was across the street from Randall Park mall are gone like Toys R Us, Kids R Us, HH Gregg, Dick's Sporting Goods, Circuit City, Bob Evans, Ponderosa. My mom's sister in Cleveland told me that Parmatown mall got closed and I didn't know that. A lot of stores at Southgate shopping center in Maple heights are also gone and the movie theater that was there has been gone for a long time. I swear blacks are the most self destructive and ignorant people and they wonder why whites don't wanna own businesses in their neighborhoods. Their dumb asses will support foreigners who own businesses in black neighborhoods but they won't own their own businesses when they did that a long time ago because they had no choice since whites didn't want them shopping at their stores.



Since I live in Maryland, there's a mall here in the ghetto called Iverson and I'm surprised it's still open. I never go there because I try to stay away from where blacks shop because I hate their ignorance. I do go to a mall here in Waldorf in a white neighborhood but there's a lot of blacks that go there but whites go there too.

MrCleveland
01-07-2015, 03:55 PM
MrCleveland, did you see Randall Park mall got torn down? I saw a video about it yesterday on Youtube? I posted some comments about it and I'm mad it's gone because I loved that mall. I blame ignorant blacks for the mall being gone because they were stealing stuff from the stores and fighting at the mall. I bet if Warrensville was predominately white, the mall would still be open. I also don't know why the stores and restaurants that was across the street from Randall Park mall are gone like Toys R Us, Kids R Us, HH Gregg, Dick's Sporting Goods, Circuit City, Bob Evans, Ponderosa. My mom's sister in Cleveland told me that Parmatown mall got closed and I didn't know that. A lot of stores at Southgate shopping center in Maple heights are also gone and the movie theater that was there has been gone for a long time. I swear blacks are the most self destructive and ignorant people and they wonder why whites don't wanna own businesses in their neighborhoods. Their dumb asses will support foreigners who own businesses in black neighborhoods but they won't own their own businesses when they did that a long time ago because they had no choice since whites didn't want them shopping at their stores.



Since I live in Maryland, there's a mall here in the ghetto called Iverson and I'm surprised it's still open. I never go there because I try to stay away from where blacks shop because I hate their ignorance. I do go to a mall here in Waldorf in a white neighborhood but there's a lot of blacks that go there but whites go there too.

I saw that Randall Park is demolished. I had a talk with my aunt about the lower east side suburbs of Cleveland. People there when they saw a minority or two (these were highly white neighborhoods) pushed the panic button and fled further! I'm sure that this region may settle...Warrensville Heights has been through this in the 80's and 90's, but when Marcia Fudge became mayor there things settled and is a decent 'burb. I mentioned about Garfield Heights which now is going through panic mode because of this...I hate that the bigoted whites want to stay in their glass houses! I think my grandfather's house is bought for $30K...it was on zillow, so either it was bought by someone who revamps houses...it needs $30K more for renovation...or went off-market.

Now Parma is encountering this scenario...if people want to move to a city...let them! I like where I'm at since there's a high diverse area...that's why I miss Lakewood.

isiahthomas
01-07-2015, 04:50 PM
You live on the westside right? I like Warrensville, Garfield, Bedford, Shaker, Maple. Those are nice areas. I also liked the area my grandparents lived in before they died and I lived with them for 8 years. They stayed on Glendale road off of Lee road and the area they were in were close to Warrensville and Shaker.

MrCleveland
01-07-2015, 05:34 PM
You live on the westside right? I like Warrensville, Garfield, Bedford, Shaker, Maple. Those are nice areas. I also liked the area my grandparents lived in before they died and I lived with them for 8 years. They stayed on Glendale road off of Lee road and the area they were in were close to Warrensville and Shaker.

I was raised in Old Brooklyn...I wouldn't mind returning there one day. I consider it the south side.