what do you think guys? These two had the best arguments... and look at the guys attitudes towards them.. who scared them more.. lol

I thought Frasier and Lilith was a much funnier and more interesting couple. I love the episode when they take Carla and one of her sons out to dinner.

isnt that the episode where they turn carla into a mini lilith? lol

That's one of my FAVORITE episodes! It's "I Kid You Not." They take little Lud out because they're contemplating whether they want children or not. Carla gets jealous because they have been taking Ludlow everywhere (opera, fancy restaurants, etc.) and Frasier suggests Carla comes along to dinner with them. He tells her its a very upstanding restaurant and to dress appropriately. That's when she shows up in her Lilith get-up! LMAO! I just love that episode! :happyface

Lilith also turns Rebecca into her in the following season, I believe. I can't decide which amused me more... Carla's version of Lilith or Rebecca's. LOL

Anyhoo... as for the original post, Lilith DEFINITELY wins. She totally has Frasier whipped, much more so than Diane. Diane just confused Sam... she didn't really have him whipped per se. Lilith still to this day has a weird control over Frasier, and they aren't even married anymore! LOL I mean, he even calls her for relationship advice -- that's really kind of sad. LOL (Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he did... I so want them to get back together. That was such an "Awwwww!" moment when they said their "I love you's"!!)

So, I say Lilith -- hand's down!

~B

i wanna see a fraiser episode with her in it! and yes they DO belong together...

I dunno 'bout that,seems to me every time Diane left Sam and
then came back he reacted like one of Pavlov's dogs!:)

ah hmmmmmmmmmmm,interesting question as you know by now i am A BIG FAN OF DIANE AND SAM,BUT I ALSO ENJOY LILITH AND FRASIER,so while i voted for diane and sam,it was hard,since for awhile she was in control and the other half of the time i don,t really see it,I ACHUALLY THINK SAM HAD DIANE WHIPPED IN THE FIRST AND THIRD AND SOMEWHAT SOMETIMES IN THE SAD LAST YEAR FOR DIANE,(atleast for us fans anyway,but i would say in the first diane was kind of sams shall i say catch,but then in the second season diane suddenlly had almost complete control over him untill the final and somewhat in the 4th and the last season i think,but once lilth and frasier where a HOT item after awhile they definitlly took it and picked up where sam and diane left off,LILITH DEFINITLLY HAD HER GUY UNDER CONTROL FOR AWHILW,but i am voting for diane since simpley put she really had sam under her belt for THEA SECOND SEASON I THINK,just currious why did lilith and frasier decide to get divorced i thought that they were a happy couple i never found out why exactlly did it happen to my other favorite couple,so please keep me informed on that thanks LOL

now that i think about it.. poor sam and frasier! we women have control..:D

I need somewhere to say this so here it goes!

I LOVE KELSEY! HE ROCKS! FRASIER IS ONE OF MY FAVE SHOWS!

I just needed somewhere to say that. It's out now. See, just b/cuz I come from FOL boards does not mean I'm a jerk. I'm just a kid.:p

Frasier was definitely more whipped.

I don't think Sam was really whipped. Frasier on the other hand........

Yeah, Sam softened up for Diane, but he was never led by the nose like Frasier was with Lilith.

Frasier and Lilith.... best couple ever.

FRASIER Whipped an proud of it lol

oh definately frasier i mean sam was never really whipped, although diane was in control

deffently frasier he even said it that was really funny he was like yep thats me wipped and proud of it lol

Frasier was whipped like hell.

Id ProLly have to say frasier ToO :)

Frasier COMPLETELY!!! lol

That was one of the main reasons why Sam and Diane fought so much. Neither would let the other one whip them. It was a constant war of wills and power plays.

Now frasier on the other hand was completely whipped! He was lilith's little play thing, I mean she left him when she wanted to and came back to him when she wanted to.....that man was completely whipped.

Originally posted by Dr. Lilith Sternin
That's when she shows up in her Lilith get-up! LMAO! I just love that episode!

Yeah, as a fellow "Lilith-lover" I too love that episode! :D But I do think it's interesting that Carla never said anything about dressin' up like a "Mini-Lilith", lol. So it's not really clear if it was Carla's idea, or if Frasier or Lilith (or Rebecca or someone else at the bar) suggested that or what---and I always wanna know! lol :p

Since Carla "doesn't do" fancy stuff, maybe she just thought, "Eh, if I'm gonna go out with 'Frasier & Lilith', I'd better look like one of 'em. I guess I'll do the unnatural thing and look like Lilith." :crazy:

Frasier with Lilith. Poor guy. :lol:

Lilith definetally had frasier whipped
thats one of the many reasons she's my favorite