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LittleRickyII 12-13-2014, 07:03 PM I think this is a live link that continually gets updated.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/11/21/bill_cosby_accusers_list_sexual_assault_rape_drugs_feature_in_women_s_stories.html
LittleRickyII 06-30-2015, 12:16 AM I think this is a live link that continually gets updated.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/11/21/bill_cosby_accusers_list_sexual_assault_rape_drugs_feature_in_women_s_stories.html
Bumping this up as, when I originally posted this link, the number of accusers was 26; now it's up to 42. They keep the link updated each time another woman comes forward with her story.
LittleRickyII 07-03-2015, 03:28 AM And they all side with Gloria Allred. So why should I take them seriously. But the OP IS, after all, a far-left Feminist. Very close-minded.
Also, one of them, Louisa Mortiz, has already been proven false. NBC and the Tonight Show said that looking from their production notes, there was NO evidence of her and Bill Cosby EVER being on the same taping day, as she claimed.
I haven't seen any evidence she's lying, but even if she is, there are still 41 other accusers. And I'm still wondering why, after months of this, Cosby has yet to sue these women for slander. Wonder why he doesn't? He's certainly more powerful than they are and has the resources to destroy them in court if they're lying. Hmm. And I'm still wondering why a man would pay off women who are supposedly lying about him (as he did in 2006). Innocent people don't do that.
Will and Grace Fanatic 07-05-2015, 03:58 PM I understand that many rapes go unreported. But I find it impossible that 40 plus women were raped by this man and not one of them reported it. They just happened to wait till 20 years later when he can't be charged with a crime. They waited till the could get a pay out?
Wawwie 07-06-2015, 08:39 PM Cosby himself just ADMITTED to obtaining drugs so he could drug women for sex. OK?
The man is a rapist. He admits it himself. :crazy:
LittleRickyII 07-06-2015, 09:31 PM I understand that many rapes go unreported. But I find it impossible that 40 plus women were raped by this man and not one of them reported it. They just happened to wait till 20 years later when he can't be charged with a crime. They waited till the could get a pay out?
Do you not understand that they were UNCONSCIOUS when they were raped? They could not be sure of what had happened to them. Besides, this was Bill Cosby. Not only was he rich and powerful with powerful interests like NBC behind him, but he had a public image of the quintessential family man, who would believe these mostly unknown women? Anyway, now as the Alan Brady's Hair link above shows, it's now out that Cosby admitted to this ten years ago. And it's made national news today. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bill-cosby-said-he-gave-sedative-women-document-n387671
Vahan 07-06-2015, 10:23 PM There's only thing for me to say in response to this bombshell:
This gives the late night comedians with more material than ever to work with.
Mr. Television 07-06-2015, 10:27 PM It proved that you never know what goes on behind the scenes with these actors that come into our living rooms each week. I still can't get over how he fooled America for 50 years. I still remember watching Fat Albert on Saturday mornings and ll this time I was watching a rapist.
Zoneboy 07-06-2015, 10:55 PM It proved that you never know what goes on behind the scenes with these actors that come into our living rooms each week. I still can't get over how he fooled America for 50 years. I still remember watching Fat Albert on Saturday mornings and ll this time I was watching a rapist.
If they're going to remove The Dukes of Hazzard from TV then the same should be done for all shows starring Bill Cosby. I'd much rather watch a series that isn't even remotely racist than to watch one starring a rapist. I'm also a huge Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids fan but I doubt I could ever watch it again knowing that I was also duped for years. :rolleyes:
Mr. Television 07-06-2015, 11:14 PM If they're going to remove The Dukes of Hazzard from TV then the same should be done for all shows starring Bill Cosby. I'd much rather watch a series that isn't even remotely racist than to watch one starring a rapist. I'm also a huge Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids fan but I doubt I could ever watch it again knowing that I was also duped for years. :rolleyes:
I agree .
408sitcomfan 07-07-2015, 03:46 AM If they're going to remove The Dukes of Hazzard from TV then the same should be done for all shows starring Bill Cosby. I'd much rather watch a series that isn't even remotely racist than to watch one starring a rapist. I'm also a huge Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids fan but I doubt I could ever watch it again knowing that I was also duped for years. :rolleyes:
I thought TV Land dropped Cosby MONTHS ago when the accusations first came out.
Zoneboy 07-07-2015, 03:51 AM I thought TV Land dropped Cosby MONTHS ago when the accusations first came out.
I meant any channel that has rights to any show starring Cosby, not just TV Land.
Retro4Life 07-07-2015, 02:35 PM I've given him the benefit of "not guilty until proven innocent", which he, and everyone, deserves.
However, if someone asked me if the odds were more in favor of him being guilty or not guilty, I wouldn't hesitate to say "guilty". All those women...every single one of them, lying? Staggers the mind.
And now this new evidence...strange how the "consensual" encounters' modus operandi coincides so well with the type of stuff the women accuse him of doing.
I also note that the defenders are, understandably, quite silent about this news.
Vahan 07-07-2015, 02:41 PM I've given him the benefit of "not guilty until proven innocent", which he, and everyone, deserves.
However, if someone asked me if the odds were more in favor of him being guilty or not guilty, I wouldn't hesitate to say "guilty". All those women...every single one of them, lying? Staggers the mind.
And now this new evidence...strange how the "consensual" encounters' modus operandi coincides so well with the type of stuff the women accuse him of doing.
I also note that the defenders are, understandably, quite silent about this news.
I had been "Innocent Until Proven Guilty" with Bill Cosby, up until yesterday.
king of comedy 07-07-2015, 06:15 PM Finally!! It took him a long time to tell the truth. At Stephen Collins spoke right up on what he did.
Mr. Television 07-07-2015, 06:27 PM Finally!! It took him a long time to tell the truth. At Stephen Collins spoke right up on what he did.
He didn't really speak up. He didn't want this to get out. He's acted guilty though all of this. Innocent people don't act that way he does.
408sitcomfan 07-07-2015, 09:22 PM I meant any channel that has rights to any show starring Cosby, not just TV Land.
Oh wow...even after the rape allegations, Bounce TV and Centric (http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/07/media/cosby-reruns-bounce-tv-centric/) (Centric is the "older people" version of BET and used to be the BET Jazz channel) were STILL showing reruns of the two Cosby sitcoms (Bounce had the 1996-00 CBS show, Centric the 1984-92 NBC show)?
tenter 07-08-2015, 02:53 PM Oh wow...even after the rape allegations, Bounce TV and Centric (http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/07/media/cosby-reruns-bounce-tv-centric/) (Centric is the "older people" version of BET and used to be the BET Jazz channel) were STILL showing reruns of the two Cosby sitcoms (Bounce had the 1996-00 CBS show, Centric the 1984-92 NBC show)?
No actually Cosby is pulled from Bounce TV. And the Cosby Show is finally pulled from Centric. About time. This could be due to more women stepping forward from rape history with Cosby.
DJM77 07-08-2015, 06:46 PM I'm really starting to wonder if the main reason for Cosby spending years trying to build such a wholesome public image is because he felt like if the ugly truth about him ever came out that people would be much less likely to believe it.
dguy24 07-10-2015, 05:35 PM Yeah reruns of the Cosby show have been dropped on every channel even Netflix. I can guarantee you that reruns will probably never air again as long as he is still alive. If I was everyone else I would go run out right now and go by your Cosby DVDs and download your episodes and whatever else while you still can before the show disappears from shelves and websites all together.
I just hope "A Different World" will be safe because I think Bill still owns some of the rights to that show as well.
This is all so sad and disappointingly shocking.
king of comedy 07-10-2015, 05:53 PM I will take A differant world.
dguy24 07-10-2015, 06:46 PM I understand that many rapes go unreported. But I find it impossible that 40 plus women were raped by this man and not one of them reported it. They just happened to wait till 20 years later when he can't be charged with a crime. They waited till the could get a pay out?
I'm a little baffled by this as well. I can't believe out of dozens of women that not at least ONE had the courage step forward. I understand it may have been a different time but it wasn't that different. Women's lib and rights were in well effect 30/40 years ago.
I'm also a bit confused about the timeline of these rapes. Was he going out and raping women while he was filming the Cosby show. Like after a tapeing he would go out seduce some women while we were watching the show every week? Or was all this before the Cosby show during the 70's when he was doing Fat Albert or that other 70's show he had(can't remember the name).
Does this mean he was cheating on his wife and kids for decades?
All the scenarios that come to mind are baffling.
How could somebody get away with all of this for years and years under so many eyes and no one say anything or even find out. His wife, his family, his co-stars, producers, writers etc.
No one had any clue? I'm stunned.
Mr. Television 07-10-2015, 07:03 PM I'm a little baffled by this as well. I can't believe out of dozens of women that not at least ONE had the courage step forward. I understand it may have been a different time but it wasn't that different. Women's lib and rights were in well effect 30/40 years ago.
I'm also a bit confused about the timeline of these rapes. Was he going out and raping women while he was filming the Cosby show. Like after a tapeing he would go out seduce some women while we were watching the show every week? Or was all this before the Cosby show during the 70's when he was doing Fat Albert or that other 70's show he had(can't remember the name).
Does this mean he was cheating on his wife and kids for decades?
All the scenarios that come to mind are baffling.
How could somebody get away with all of this for years and years under so many eyes and no one say anything or even find out. His wife, his family, his co-stars, producers, writers etc.
No one had any clue? I'm stunned.
I believe he's been doing this since the 1960's. He was doing this through The Cosby Show years. It is very baffling because the guy was one of the most beloved entertainers of the 80's. It is hard to understand how he got away with it for all these years. Looking at him now, he just looks pitiful. I always thought he just should have come out and explained himself but he can't. There's no explanation. The guys guilty. I was a Cosby fan for decades, before The Cosby Show. It's just sickening how he duped us for all these years.
Retro4Life 07-10-2015, 07:22 PM I believe he's been doing this since the 1960's. He was doing this through The Cosby Show years. It is very baffling because the guy was one of the most beloved entertainers of the 80's. It is hard to understand how he got away with it for all these years. Looking at him now, he just looks pitiful. I always thought he just should have come out and explained himself but he can't. There's no explanation. The guys guilty. I was a Cosby fan for decades, before The Cosby Show. It's just sickening how he duped us for all these years.
I hear ya, Sonny.
I was just telling someone that we all, myself included, tend to give a celebrities a little more leeway in terms of "innocent until proven guilty" because they tend to have such pleasing public personas, and overall, we just don't WANT to believe they could commit such crimes.
I imagine the Brits went through this with the Jimmy Saville horror story. And I experienced it with the O.J. case. Nobody could get their head around O.J. doing something like that because his P.R. was rooted so strongly in our minds, we kind of thought we 'knew' him.
I liked Fat Albert, and I liked the early albums. By the time the Cosby Show hit, I was tired of him. There was an arrogance creeping in that I didn't care for, though obviously I never suspected he could be capable of this type of act. It's disheartening to slowly start to come to the conclusion that someone you revered didn't deserve it.
And I know there are some on this board that subscribe to the "he's only in it for the entertainment and doesn't owe us anything more" argument. That's fine, but I can't separate the two. If I think someone is guilty of a horrible crime, it wouldn't matter if he or she had the best material in the world, I'd sit right there stone faced because all I could think of was the crime and that I was helping such a person prosper.
Vahan 07-10-2015, 07:41 PM Retro4life mentioned Jimmy Savile.
I brought this up just to mention this: According to the BBC, Savile never existed. They have gone high and low to ban EVERYTHING he was involved in (television appearances, episodes of Top of the Pops he hosted, etc.)
To be honest, I do not think this will make things better. Even though Savile was an evil man, inside and out, his television work is a part of history. And history should NOT be erased.
Mr. Television 07-10-2015, 08:05 PM I hear ya, Sonny.
I was just telling someone that we all, myself included, tend to give a celebrities a little more leeway in terms of "innocent until proven guilty" because they tend to have such pleasing public personas, and overall, we just don't WANT to believe they could commit such crimes.
I imagine the Brits went through this with the Jimmy Saville horror story. And I experienced it with the O.J. case. Nobody could get their head around O.J. doing something like that because his P.R. was rooted so strongly in our minds, we kind of thought we 'knew' him.
I liked Fat Albert, and I liked the early albums. By the time the Cosby Show hit, I was tired of him. There was an arrogance creeping in that I didn't care for, though obviously I never suspected he could be capable of this type of act. It's disheartening to slowly start to come to the conclusion that someone you revered didn't deserve it.
And I know there are some on this board that subscribe to the "he's only in it for the entertainment and doesn't owe us anything more" argument. That's fine, but I can't separate the two. If I think someone is guilty of a horrible crime, it wouldn't matter if he or she had the best material in the world, I'd sit right there stone faced because all I could think of was the crime and that I was helping such a person prosper.
It's because we invite these people into our homes each week. They become like family. We think we know them but we don't. Cosby has got to be a great actor to be able to fool America for 50 years. I hear you about TCS. I loved the first season but his preachiness got to me after awhile. I liked A Different World better after Lisa Bonet left. But I loved Fat Albert. I like I Spy. I like a lot of things Cosby did. And even though I didn't like the arrogance of the Huxtables at times, I always thought Cosby's heart was in the right place. He comes off as a hypocrite now. I don't know how you judge TCS now. There is no doubt it saved the sitcom in the 1980's. Many sitcoms that I loved happened because of The Cosby Show's success. This whole thing is just unbelievable.
dguy24 07-10-2015, 08:13 PM Well I hope all those Cosby kids saved their money cuz they probably just saw their last residual check.
I gotta be honest though. I haven't watched anything by Bill Cosby in like 20yrs. I stopped thinking he was funny a long time ago, scandal or no scandal. I use to be an avid Cosby show watcher when I was kid every week but I think I was just going along with the bandwagon at the time. Now that Im grown I look back and it began occurring to me that I dont think I ever really thought he was that hysterically funny to begin with. The whole happy rich african american family thing was always kinda far-fetched for me. Not that it doesn't or can't exist but I've still have never really met many people like that ever. And as he got older I never really enjoyed all his ranting and raving about the problems and morals of black youth. There was always something off-putting about it. And now this just discredits everything and proves my own feelings right in why I stopped having interest in him. I just knew there was a reason why I felt something was just off or wasn't good about him as the years went on. Im sorry, I know this is may be sad for his hard-core fans but its true. Im even sad myself to admit all this. But we have to see the truth for what it is.
If anything I firmly believe in karma now.
It might not come today, tomorrow, next week or even next year but karma will find you.
Retro4Life 07-10-2015, 08:15 PM It's because we invite these people into our homes each week. They become like family. We think we know them but we don't. Cosby has got to be a great actor to be able to fool America for 50 years. I hear you about TCS. I loved the first season but his preachiness got to me after awhile. I liked A Different World better after Lisa Bonet left. But I loved Fat Albert. I like I Spy. I like a lot of things Cosby did. And even though I didn't like the arrogance of the Huxtables at times, I always thought Cosby's heart was in the right place. He comes off as a hypocrite now. I don't know how you judge TCS now. There is no doubt it saved the sitcom in the 1980's. Many sitcoms that I loved happened because of The Cosby Show's success. This whole thing is just unbelievable.
You're probably right about TSC's impact. I'd say "Family Ties" and to a lesser extent, "Cheers" helped, too, but TCS really anchored that classic lineup and it's debatable whether or not FT would have caught fire like it did without that lead.
It is a real head scratcher, to say the least. I've heard that sociopaths are so cunning they can convince anyone they want of pretty much anything. IMO Mr. Cosby had us all fooled. And I also agree that even when I found him annoying and frankly, a gasbag, I always thought he had noble motives.
Maybe he does/did. And maybe that's the insane part; that two completely contradictory urges can exist in a person at the same time. I don't know what we all "do" with that, how we process it.
It's a really, really sad story, with no winners.
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/255366/in-cosby-show-episode-dr-huxtable-drugs-women-with-special-barbecue-sauce/
Reddit users discovered a 1990 episode, where Bill Cosby's character fed women barbecue sauce that appeared to make them docile, affectionate and agreeable.
Retro4Life 07-10-2015, 10:46 PM http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/255366/in-cosby-show-episode-dr-huxtable-drugs-women-with-special-barbecue-sauce/
Reddit users discovered a 1990 episode, where Bill Cosby's character fed women barbecue sauce that appeared to make them docile, affectionate and agreeable.
That is horrific.
bh7812 07-11-2015, 12:55 AM All I can really say is just a short and simple I'm very disappointed in Bill and sad this all does appear to be true. I was really hoping it wasn't. I mean hell even LA County is now investigating all of it so I mean you can kinda do the math. I have the entire Cosby Show run on DVD and the Fat Albert complete series box set too and I can't look at it the same way I did before this ever again. Despite all this I still would like to see his last CBS sitcom but looks like I won't get to now. I do agree with the poster who said history shouldn't be erased. I'd hope to God his legendary "I brought you into this world and I can take you right out!" Scene from the Cosby Show pilot will survive because that one scene is a huge part of TV history. 40 some million people saw the pilot episode the night it premiered...unreal. Anyway very sad, disappointing and heart breaking...the whole thing.
Zoneboy 07-11-2015, 04:29 AM 40 some million people saw the pilot episode the night it premiered.
Luckily, I wasn't among them.
dguy24 07-11-2015, 06:09 AM I have the entire Cosby Show run on DVD and the Fat Albert complete series box set too and I can't look at it the same way I did before this ever again.
I know what you mean. I thought maybe it wouldn't bother me watching the show again. That it would still be ok cuz it was a good show but even just watching the link above that TMC posted of that 1990 barbecue episode which led to a link of the entire episode; I watched a little bit and I already felt like I couldn't look at him the same knowing what I know now. It was like I was staring at a dishonest fraud. All his shows now are completely tainted for me now cuz it's all I can think of when I see him now and that he tried to pass himself off as wholesome American pie and fooled generations for decades.
That's kind of a lot. A lot of damage done and a lot to absorb every time you seem.
In a way I feel really sorry for him and this monster he's created for himself but more so I just feel disappointment.
shotzette 07-11-2015, 11:09 AM It's because we invite these people into our homes each week. They become like family. We think we know them but we don't.
Well said. In Garry Marshall's autobiography, "Wake Me When It's Funny", he states "Television is a remarkable invention that allows you to invite people in your living room who you would cross the street to avoid".
One of the basic tenants of marketing is that familiarity breeds trust. The more often you see something, whether it be a logo or a person, you tend to accept their "brand".
Let's face it, who WASN'T shocked when the ugly stories about Bob Crane and OJ Simpson came to light?
LittleRickyII 07-11-2015, 01:01 PM It's because we invite these people into our homes each week. They become like family. We think we know them but we don't. Cosby has got to be a great actor to be able to fool America for 50 years.
From what I've read about sociopaths, they learn to mimic good behavior and emotions. Some will even cry on cue, although you might not see any actual tears. I once heard that one in twenty people are sociopaths, so we all (unfortunately) know some. I have a relative that fits the criteria and the family has pretty much finally had to shut her out because she's created so much negativity (she was trying to create divisions within the family until we all caught on to her game).
I'd hope to God his legendary "I brought you into this world and I can take you right out!" Scene from the Cosby Show pilot will survive because that one scene is a huge part of TV history. 40 some million people saw the pilot episode the night it premiered.
Luckily, I wasn't among them.
Nor was I, and I'm not familiar with that scene. I was never actually much of a fan of TCS and would watch it only occasionally, but I did like Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids. That was a highlight of my Saturday mornings growing up. I have vague memories of his first sitcom, which was on when I was really young. And I watched I Spy reruns when I was a kid. I also enjoyed his standup comedy. So Bill Cosby has been part of my life to some extent for as long as I can remember. I was completely flabbergasted when this story broke last year -- somehow I missed hearing about the 2005 allegations -- but at this point I've accepted it and will tune him out the same way I have O.J. and Robert Blake. The one that's difficult to tune out is Phil Spector because his music is everywhere and is sung by so many different artists. At least, though, we're not hearing his voice or seeing his face.
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/255366/in-cosby-show-episode-dr-huxtable-drugs-women-with-special-barbecue-sauce/
Reddit users discovered a 1990 episode, where Bill Cosby's character fed women barbecue sauce that appeared to make them docile, affectionate and agreeable.
That is just creepy! I have no doubt he planted that seed in his writers' heads. It's very common for sitcom actors to suggest ideas to their writers.
http://nypost.com/2015/07/12/bill-cosbys-wife-says-accusers-consented-to-drugs-and-sex/
Bill Cosby’s wife knows her husband is a serial philanderer, but believes his scores of accusers consented to drugs and sex (http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php/897163-Camille-Cosby-believes-the-accusers-consented-to-being-drugged-and-raped), two confidants of the couple say.
Last week’s revelation that Cosby admitted during a deposition that he intended to ply women with Quaaludes before bedding them barely fazed Camille Cosby, the !insiders told The Post.
“Camille still doesn’t believe that Bill provided drugs and had sex with women without their consent,” said a source employed by the Cosby family. “She’s well aware of his cheating, but she doesn’t believe that her husband is a rapist.”
Mrs. Cosby is “a proud, dignified but stubborn woman. You can say that she’s standing by her husband, but really, the more people stand against him, the more she perceives it as an affront to her and all that she’s done to make him a star,” said another source who’s done business with the Cosbys and remains close to them.
Camille Cosby, 71, who is also her 78-year-old husband’s business manager, demanded last week at a crisis meeting with advisers that their lawyers and p.r. specialists “get back out in front of this,” the business source said.
“I created him, I knew what I was getting and we’ll fix this,” she told the gathering at a meeting at the couple’s Shelburne Falls, Mass., home Tuesday night.
“They are making him out to be such a bad guy, a monster,” Camille said, according to the source.
“People are jumping ship,” she added in an apparent reference to actress Jill Scott, who now says she’s sorry for her staunch support of Cosby, and comedian Jimmy Walker, another onetime defender who now calls America’s Dad the “O.J. Simpson of comedy.”
As prosecutors in Los Angeles and Las Vegas reportedly take a closer look at Cosby’s nearly 50 alleged sexual assaults on women dating back five decades, advisers last week urged him to sever ties with virtually everyone and permanently halt any comeback attempts.
“It’s advisable that you close ranks. That means [cut off] family, Hollywood family, friends, Hollywood friends,” the star was told, according to the business partner.
Camille Cosby remains on Bill’s side, despite his constant cheating.
She “stopped being embarrassed long ago” by her husband’s affairs, the family source said, but cannot tolerate the “invasion of privacy.”
The infidelities were “personal, between Bill and I,” she’s told her circle, the source said.
According to the family source, Camille confided, “You have to allow for space to let your partner do what he wants. I have done that and [Bill] has done that and there’s no jealously, no friction.”
She said every so often the couple goes through an “evaluation period” to determine whether the marriage should continue. “She even once talked to Oprah Winfrey about cleansing herself of baggage every now and again and how it always seems to lead her back to staying with Bill,” the family source said.
Rev. Carl Dianda, the couple’s longtime spiritual adviser who presided over their marriage 51 years ago, told The Post his “heart breaks” for her.
“She made so many sacrifices for him to have a career.”
Retro4Life 07-12-2015, 05:06 PM http://nypost.com/2015/07/12/bill-cosbys-wife-says-accusers-consented-to-drugs-and-sex/
Well, just when I thought this thing couldn't get more depressing, it does.
Mr. Television 07-12-2015, 07:10 PM She's in denial. And Cosby's career is over. The only thing that can save him is to prove all these women are lying and he can't.
dguy24 07-12-2015, 07:30 PM Ok so she knew about it and other Hollywood industry people kinda knew about it and all these women never said anything about it.
What a masochistic world we live in.
I don't even know who's at fault here anymore. Obviously no one cared to do anything about it.
Camille, it doesn't matter if you knew about drugs being involved or not. Your husband is cheating on you. Have some self respect for you and your children. It's 2015.
You don't need to "stand by your man" anymore.
I'm appalled by all of this now.
Chuck D Accused Marvin Gaye Of Pedophilia While Defending Bill Cosby On Twitter (http://uproxx.com/music/2015/07/chuck-d-twitter-marvin-gaye-bill-cosby/)
Cosby Show cast member: “Of course Bill Cosby is Guilty!” (http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php/897914-Cosby-Show-cast-member-%E2%80%9COf-course-Bill-Cosby-is-Guilty!%E2%80%9D)
king of comedy 07-14-2015, 04:17 PM I'm glad somebody from The cosby show spoke up against Cosby.
dguy24 07-14-2015, 05:12 PM I'd like to hear what the rest of the cast has to say now. The core cast...Tempest, Malcolm, Keisha, Phylisha etc. Especially Phylisha since she publicly came to his defense several months back.
Are they sad, disappointed, angry? I would be all these things.
Retro4Life 07-14-2015, 06:02 PM We still don't know who that cast member is, of course.
But I agree...if you defend someone, you have an obligation to come clean when things point toward their guilt. I seriously doubt any of them will say a word from here on out, though.
DJM77 07-14-2015, 06:33 PM We still don't know who that cast member is, of course.
It's Joseph C. Phillips.
cleverfun3000 07-14-2015, 09:09 PM http://i.imgur.com/FldW0dY.png (http://lunapic.com)
http://i.imgur.com/WGdCqBY.jpg (http://lunapic.com)
Mr. Television 07-14-2015, 10:59 PM Chuck D Accused Marvin Gaye Of Pedophilia While Defending Bill Cosby On Twitter (http://uproxx.com/music/2015/07/chuck-d-twitter-marvin-gaye-bill-cosby/)
Cosby Show cast member: “Of course Bill Cosby is Guilty!” (http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php/897914-Cosby-Show-cast-member-%E2%80%9COf-course-Bill-Cosby-is-Guilty!%E2%80%9D)
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/%E2%80%98cosby-show%E2%80%99-actor-declares-%E2%80%98of-course-bill-cosby-is-guilty%E2%80%99/ar-AAcY8xl?ocid=iehp
‘Cosby Show’ Actor Declares, ‘Of Course Bill Cosby Is Guilty!’
The rising chorus of voices rising up against scandal-plagued comedian Bill Cosby has increased by one.
Former "The Cosby Show" actor Joseph C. Phillips, who played Denise Huxtable's husband Lt. Martin Kendall on the NBC sitcom, has pointed a finger at his former TV father-in-law in a column on his website titled, "Of Course Bill Cosby Is Guilty!"
In the lengthy blog post, Phillips recalls that, during his "Cosby Show" tenure, "my attitude was that if Bill was cheating on [his wife] Camille, I am fairly certain Camille knew. Hey, if everyone who claimed to know actually knew, then certainly Camille knew, and had long ago made her peace with it."
He added, "I never saw Bill engage in any inappropriate behavior. I certainly never saw him drug anyone. So, all I have is the same gossip as everyone else."
Phillips noted that his attitude took a turn as the accusations began to dominate headlines and he ran into an "old friend" that Cosby had served as a "mentor" to:
The question popped into my head.
"Hey, do you mind if I ask you something?"
She looked at me and then asked, "Is it going to make me cry?"
I was a bit taken aback. "Well," I stammered. "I hope it doesn't make you cry."
She smiled. "Go ahead and ask your question."
"Back in the day," I started. "I remember that you knew Bill - that he was like your mentor or something. Did he ever..."
Before I finished the sentence, she began to cry.
We spent the next two hours sitting on a bench talking. Through tears, she told me her story. She cursed him for violating both her trust and her body. She cursed herself for not being smarter, and for degrading herself in pursuit of success. I listened patiently. As she began to run out of steam, she turned to me. "Do you believe me?"
"Yes." I said. "I believe you."
"Why?" she asked.
"Because I don't believe that you are crazy and only a crazy person would sit with me all this time and share a fantasy."
I am not sure if our conversation was cathartic for her. I know it was heart-breaking for me.
In recent months, dozens of women have come forward to accuse Cosby of rape or sexual assault, with many of them claiming that the comedian drugged them beforehand.
The allegations have sparked multiple lawsuits, including a complaint filed by former "America's Next Top Model" judge Janice Dickinson.
Cosby's attorney, Martin Singer, has denied the accusations made against the comedian in the past.
Earlier this month, portions of a deposition stemming from a 2005 lawsuit were released, revealing that Cosby had admitted to obtaining Quaaludes to give to women he wanted to have sex with.
Mr. Television 07-14-2015, 11:01 PM I would love to hear what Lisa Bonet thinks of this. She's had some kind of grudge against Cosby for years. Maybe she knows.
Mr. Television 07-14-2015, 11:07 PM You know it's over for Bill when Whoopi is abandoning him.
http://www.eonline.com/news/676279/whoopi-goldberg-changes-her-mind-about-bill-cosby-as-cosby-show-actor-declares-of-course-he-s-guilty
News/ Whoopi Goldberg Changes Her Mind About Bill Cosby as Cosby Show's Joseph C. Phillips Declares ''Of Course He's Guilty''
by Natalie Finn Today 5:28 PM PDT
News/ Whoopi Goldberg Changes Her Mind About Bill Cosby as Cosby Show's Joseph C. Phillips Declares ''Of Course He's Guilty''
by Natalie Finn Today 5:28 PM PDT
Bill Cosby is losing those who want to believe in his innocence at a rapid clip.
Whoopi Goldberg has, if not exactly defended Cosby, has repeatedly spoken out against racing to convict the comedian in the media. But now that nearly four dozen women have come forward to accuse Cosby of either sexual assault or attempted sexual assault, Goldberg's point of view has finally shifted.
Cosby, through his attorney, has denied the allegations, though an unearthed deposition in a civil suit from 2005 shows that he admitted to acquiring drugs to give to women he wanted to have sex with.
"If he was arrested, which he hasn't been, the legal standard would be proof beyond a reasonable doubt and he would be innocent until proven guilty," ABC News legal analyst Dan Abrams explained in a one-on-one sit-down with Goldberg this morning on The View.
"Fifty women allege he sexually assaulted them and drugged them and, basically, as a serial rapist why is he still on the street?" Goldberg wondered. "He's never been arrested or put in jail. How is that possible."
"A couple reasons," Abrams offered. "There are women reluctant to come forward. I think they were ashamed or embarrassed."
"What about the 50 who did?" she countered.
"Look, I think early on some of them didn't come forward," Abrams said. "The reason now that effectively nothing can be done..."
"Nothing?" Goldberg interjected.
"Nothing," he repeated. "Pretty much nothing. There's a defamation suit, et cetera. But as a legal matter it's because the statute of limitations has expired both on civil and criminal in the states this was alleged to have happened. That's a legal technicality. It is fair to say when you look at that you say, 'Really? That's the reason?' It's because of a statute of limitations. It sure feels like a technicality. When you look at the totality of these cases, I think that the public put aside a courtroom can say you know what, wow, it doesn't just look like he did it, he admits that he gave quaaludes to young women to have sex."
And yes, there is a statute of limitations on rape cases, but there is also currently a movement forming to change the law, Abrams added.
Expressing her disbelief that nothing can be done, legally, at this point, Goldberg said, "That's a shock to me because I always thought that if you could take somebody to court, then you could have the accuser say 'that's who did it, this is what it is,' but you're saying that all that is left to these women is the court of public opinion?"
"Right," Abrams said. "I think that together, though—together they make a much more compelling case so to speak. It is impossible to ignore the consistency of these stories."
Goldberg has long preached the likes of "innocent until proven guilty" when it came to Cosby, but she has since decidedly changed her tune.
"What we have learned is there's no recourse for these women except what they're doing," the Oscar winner continued. "If this is to be tried in the court of public opinion, I got to say all of the information that's out there kind of points to guilt."
"You got a serial rapist, he's been on the streets for 30 years," she also said. "I have to say I thought that yeah, here's all the information, take his ass to jail. I find out from you that that's not possible. So I can't say any more 'innocent until proven guilty' because there's no way to prove it. We are the only proof that folks have. We're the only backup they have."
"If he wants to get his side of the story out, he can sit down and talk in depth but he's been very careful not to say a word about this," Abrams said. "And the reason is because anything he says can and will be used against him."
"Yes. You know, so we know. It looks bad, Bill," Goldberg added. "Either speak up or shut up. Because people know now that there's a lot more out there than they thought. Thank you. Also, please contact your state representative and ask about the statute of limitations on cases like these."
Meanwhile, one of Cosby's former co-stars didn't mince words when it came to the ongoing situation.
"Of Course Bill Cosby Is Guilty" is the title of a post Joseph C. Phillips added to his website.
"I love Bill Cosby! Honestly, that phrase may not be enough to sufficiently describe my feelings for Bill. He was my boyhood idol," Phillips, who played Lisa Bonet's Navy officer husband Martin on The Cosby Show, began his essay.
But over the course of his lengthy post tracing the arc of his admiration for, and ultimately conflicted feelings about, Cosby, Phillips concludes: "Bill, you have a family who loves you, a wife who is devoted to you; you have more money than you can spend. Please, go live a quiet country life. Allow those of us who truly love you to preserve just a bit of our enchantment."
Retro4Life 07-15-2015, 12:49 AM I would love to hear what Lisa Bonet thinks of this. She's had some kind of grudge against Cosby for years. Maybe she knows.
If I recall correctly, Cosby was not happy with Bonet's nudity and sex scenes in the film "Angel Heart", though it may be that their issues started before that.
Kind of ironic, given what has been revealed since, that simulated lovemaking for a fictional film would be such a sticking point.
1960'sTVfan 07-15-2015, 02:47 PM Has anyone considered the possibility these encounters were consentual, and the women wanted to get high and have sex with Cosby? Wild and crazy stuff like this happens all the time, especially with celebrities. Cosby has spoke out in the past regarding young african americans, males especially, being critical about how they dress and behave, etc. So maybe his comments touched a nerve with someone, and now suddenly out of nowhere comes this sinister attempt to damage Cosby's name, career and reputation. These consentual encounters are now being flipped around, and the women are now saying he drugged and raped them. Maybe the women are being paid to come out and make these accusations, anything is possible. I'm not saying Cosby is innocent, but I am skeptical of all the accusations, and unless he is proven absolutely 100 percent guilty I'm giving him benefit of the doubt.
Retro4Life 07-15-2015, 03:17 PM Has anyone considered the possibility these encounters were consentual, and the women wanted to get high and have sex with Cosby? Wild and crazy stuff like this happens all the time, especially with celebrities. Cosby has spoke out in the past regarding young african americans, males especially, being critical about how they dress and behave, etc. So maybe his comments touched a nerve with someone, and now suddenly out of nowhere comes this sinister attempt to damage Cosby's name, career and reputation. These consentual encounters are now being flipped around, and the women are now saying he drugged and raped them. Maybe the women are being paid to come out and make these accusations, anything is possible. I'm not saying Cosby is innocent, but I am skeptical of all the accusations, and unless he is proven absolutely 100 percent guilty I'm giving him benefit of the doubt.
That scenario is a possibility, yes, but to me, it's a very, very remote one.
To go with your theory, you have to assume that ALL, not just most, but ALL of these 40 women are lying. Because if even ONE of them is telling the truth, he's a rapist, pure and simple.
And what are the odds that all of these women, from all walks of life, of all ages, races, and backgrounds, are ALL lying? I can be as paranoid as the next guy, but to subscribe to that notion requires a level of paranoia I can't ever achieve.
You're welcome to your view, and I thank you for it. But you have to play the odds, I think, and in this case, the odds for that happening are astronomical.
king of comedy 07-15-2015, 04:47 PM If I recall correctly, Cosby was not happy with Bonet's nudity and sex scenes in the film "Angel Heart", though it may be that their issues started before that.
Kind of ironic, given what has been revealed since, that simulated lovemaking for a fictional film would be such a sticking point.
It was her choice to do the movie. She wanted to escape her squeaky clean image.
cleverfun3000 07-16-2015, 10:26 AM It was her choice to do the movie. She wanted to escape her squeaky clean image.
I Disagree. She took the role to show how versatile an actress she is. A few years later she was back at the squeaky clean role of Denise. If she wanted to "escape" the image of being a Cosby kid, she would have never looked back.
That is horrific.
12 TV Moments Made Unintentionally Depressing By Real Life Events (http://whatculture.com/tv/12-tv-moments-made-unintentionally-depressing-by-real-life-events.php/4)
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-bill-cosby-new-allegations-story.html
Eden Tirl came forward today to allege that Cosby sexually assaulted her in a dressing room during a 1989 taping of his NBC show. In May, actress Lili Bernard (http://www.thewrap.com/cosby-show-actress-accuses-bill-cosby-of-sexual-assault/), who appeared on The Cosby Show’s final season, accused Cosby of sexual assault.
LittleRickyII 10-06-2015, 10:15 PM Bumping this up as, when I originally posted this link, the number of accusers was 26; now it's up to 42. They keep the link updated each time another woman comes forward with her story.
The count is now 51.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/11/21/bill_cosby_accusers_list_sexual_assault_rape_drugs_feature_in_women_s_stories.html
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