Darlie routier is on right now. Are there any other high profile cases to come......perhaps from UM

Darlie Routier is an old one, I think it was from the 4th season back around 1999 or so. I've heard various rumors about the show returning for new episodes, but haven't uncovered any concrete proof and the last new show was over 3 years ago. Peter Thomas is also in his 90's at this point, so it seems unlikely they'll be making new episodes.

Darlie Routier is an old one, I think it was from the 4th season back around 1999 or so. I've heard various rumors about the show returning for new episodes, but haven't uncovered any concrete proof and the last new show was over 3 years ago. Peter Thomas is also in his 90's at this point, so it seems unlikely they'll be making new episodes.


They've been repeating the same ones for a while so I thought I'd seen them all.

They are showing new ones on week nights per HLN promos.

They've been repeating the same ones for a while so I thought I'd seen them all.

They are showing new ones on week nights per HLN promos.

There are 400 episodes, some of which haven't been aired in awhile. I'm curious to see the Madalyn Murray O'Hair one.

Another one i'd like to see is the murder of a South Carolina gas station attendant. I can't remember her name off the top of my head. I think it was one of the real early ones. A coworker of mine knew the victim.

There are 400 episodes, some of which haven't been aired in awhile. I'm curious to see the Madalyn Murray O'Hair one.

Another one i'd like to see is the murder of a South Carolina gas station attendant. I can't remember her name off the top of my head. I think it was one of the real early ones. A coworker of mine knew the victim.
Thanks for the info!

Was watching last night while studying. I had never seen the Linda Mann episode before. The one that REALLY got my attention, though, was the bizarre story of Joanne Chambers, an elementary school teacher in Pennsylvania who was the target of some kind of particularly vicious character assassination campaign. I mean, the woman found feces smeared on her desk. However, that one didn't turn out at ALL as I expected it would. :eek: It was an extremely intriguing episode. Am loving the new batches!

That Joanne Chambers episode is my favorite. It's been really nice to see some I haven't seen before. Cement the Case and The Talking Skull aired last week and Body of Evidence airs tomorrow. From what I've been told that particular episode is unusual in the series because it's apparently unsolved. There's still a number of episodes from the 7th and 8th seasons I haven't seen.... fingers crossed HLN bought the rights to them.

Its an older episode of Forensic Files but they did air the Charles Holden case on there and that was an old UM case. Even when I watched it on UM before it was solved I always had a feeling that Charles Holden had nothing to do with his mothers murder. Although his story of picking up a black hitch hiker high as a kyte that looked like Steve Urkle sounded unbelievable. I knew he was innocent. I am happy they caught the real guy that did it.

Cement the Case and The Talking Skull aired last week and Body of Evidence airs tomorrow.

I saw part of the episode "Body of Evidence." It was originally broadcast when FF was under the name "Medical Detectives," but when it was later shown under the FF moniker, the episode was renamed "Picture Perfect." For those who haven't seen it, "Body of Evidence"/"Picture Perfect" highlighted the 1978 murder of Karla Brown, whose killer was identified and caught five years later.

Forensic files was a good show. I think its been a few years since its original run. Also, looks like the amw website is gone. I was hoping that show would come back also.

For some reason the Forensic Files case that struck me the most was the murder of college student Jesse Valencia by his much older police lover Steven Rios.

For some reason the Forensic Files case that struck me the most was the murder of college student Jesse Valencia by his much older police lover Steven Rios.

oh, which episode was that? I'd seen that case before on Deadline with Tamron Hall. What a creep Steven Rios is/was. Didn't he commit suicide? If so, good riddance to him.

oh, which episode was that? I'd seen that case before on Deadline with Tamron Hall. What a creep Steven Rios is/was. Didn't he commit suicide? If so, good riddance to him.

The name of the episode is "Cop Out." The last I checked Rios was still alive, but I read somewhere that he had attempted suicide less than a month before his arrest.

I should point out that the episodes are being advertised as "new to HLN". Not that they are new episodes, just ones they haven't aired before. I finally got HLN back after it was gone for over a month (good ole Ted Turner wanted to jack up the price. Guess he hasn't learned anything since WCW crashed and burned). So I finally had a chance to see the promo.

btw, I recorded a bunch of episodes the other night and was sort of surprised to see Shannon Mohr on there. I hadn't been aware that case was on FF. Same goes for Linda Sobek, who was on there as well. Both of those cases had been on American Justice, and City Confidential covered Sobek as well.

I saw the Dennis smith episode that I had not seen. They featured UM too

I have all but about 50 episodes of FF in my collection; they were actually showing some of the early episodes on CBS Reality (under it's old name Medical Detectives) fairly recently which is how I was able to get them through a friend in the UK.

I have all but about 50 episodes of FF in my collection; they were actually showing some of the early episodes on CBS Reality (under it's old name Medical Detectives) fairly recently which is how I was able to get them through a friend in the UK.

I'd like to trade with you someday. I'm sure I can make it worth your while. Kind of tied up at the moment though -- got like 5 people wanting to do business with me, so I'm busy at the moment.

I noticed ID was showing a few episodes the other night under the title "Cause of Death". I swear, this show has like 17 different titles. That, and the fact there are 400 episodes of the show make it hard to keep track of.

Lately, I've seen these Unsolved Mysteries cases on Forensic Files:

David Davis
Dennis Keith Smith
Linda Sobek (briefly talks about the Kimberly Pandelios case)

Other known cases from both shows are:

Dana Satterfield
Dorothy Donovan
Micki Jo West (I think her case was on FF?)
Mickey and Trudy Thompson (I think?)
Lisa Kimmell?
Mia Zapata
Green River Killer?
Aimee Willard?

Let me know if I missed any

Let me know if I missed any

Off the top of my head, Dan Short.

Lately, I've seen these Unsolved Mysteries cases on Forensic Files:

David Davis
Dennis Keith Smith
Linda Sobek (briefly talks about the Kimberly Pandelios case)

Other known cases from both shows are:

Dana Satterfield
Dorothy Donovan
Micki Jo West (I think her case was on FF?)
Mickey and Trudy Thompson (I think?)
Lisa Kimmell?
Mia Zapata
Green River Killer?
Aimee Willard?

Let me know if I missed any

The Aimee Willard case was featured in the FF episode "The Telltale Tracks" (in addition to the Cold Case Files episode "Bump In The Night"). The Micki Jo West disappearance, the Thompson double murder, the Green River Killer, and the Lisa Kimmell murder were never featured on the show (although GRK was mentioned in "Road Rage"). However, GRK and LK were highlighted in Cold Case Files episodes "Obsession: David Reichert and the Green River Killer" and "Lil' Miss", respectively.

Mickey and Trudy Thompson have been on Murder by the Book and 48 Hours.

Cold Case Files actually had 2 episodes on the Green River Killer.

Just a heads up that if anyone wants to see Aimee Willard's episode, entitled "Telltale Tracks", it's airing pretty frequently these days on HLN, so you should be able to find an airing that fits your schedule.

Forensic files was a good show. I think its been a few years since its original run.

You're correct. The last original episode ("Expert Witness") aired on June 17, 2011, so it has been over three years since FF ceased production. In a recent Twitter post (dated December 1), series executive produder Paul Dowling confirmed that there will be no more new episodes, stating that the show is "finished."

whoa, they just showed the Stallings case. Had no idea FF even covered that one.

I had either forgotten or somehow missed that FF covered Faryion Wardrip, who murdered four women in the Wichita Falls, TX area as well as a fourth woman in Fort Worth during the mid-80s. I remember this case from American Justice because of the way the investigator was finally able to secure a sample of Wardrip's DNA: Wardrip was drinking coffee on a work break. The investigator saw this, threw a wad of tobacco in his lip, and walked over to ask him for his coffee cup on the premise that he needed a "spit cup". I also remembered the father of Tina Kimbrew being interviewed and thinking he seemed like a really nice guy.

Anyway, this aired a couple of nights ago and I managed to DVR it. Wardrip himself was interviewed. Mistakes were made early in the original investigation, and Wardrip ensured to make a few blatantly arrogant comments about that. He annoyed me.

ETA: Correction--the case was profiled on Cold Case Files, not American Justice. Guess I just had Bill K. on the brain.

I had either forgotten or somehow missed that FF covered Faryion Wardrip, who murdered four women in the Wichita Falls, TX area as well as a fourth woman in Fort Worth during the mid-80s. I remember this case from American Justice because of the way the investigator was finally able to secure a sample of Wardrip's DNA: Wardrip was drinking coffee on a work break. The investigator saw this, threw a wad of tobacco in his lip, and walked over to ask him for his coffee cup on the premise that he needed a "spit cup". I also remembered the father of Tina Kimbrew being interviewed and thinking he seemed like a really nice guy.

Anyway, this aired a couple of nights ago and I managed to DVR it. Wardrip himself was interviewed. Mistakes were made early in the original investigation, and Wardrip ensured to make a few blatantly arrogant comments about that. He annoyed me.

ETA: Correction--the case was profiled on Cold Case Files, not American Justice. Guess I just had Bill K. on the brain.

Oh God, I totally remember that one. I remember the investigator stalking Wardrip and his workplace, just waiting for him to throw away a cigarette or something. When he got the cup, he hauled ass and sent it off for testing right away. I admire his dedication to nailing Wardrip.

Oh God, I totally remember that one. I remember the investigator stalking Wardrip and his workplace, just waiting for him to throw away a cigarette or something. When he got the cup, he hauled ass and sent it off for testing right away. I admire his dedication to nailing Wardrip.

Yeah, he seemed like a really sharp guy. I also liked how the D.A. had a framed picture of all of the victims on his office wall--he never brought it up, but you can see it in the background during snippets of his interview. It was obvious everyone involved in this one was definitely all in.

HLN's been showing the 'Shattered Innocence' episode lately, about the teenage son that shot his attorney father in his sleep apparently because he wouldn't buy him a car. It's hard to find an example of a worse B.S.er than that son during that 911 call.

CNN started airing this again, busting out some ultra-rare 1st season (1996) episodes tonight. Between this, the huge batch of new-to-HLN episodes lately, as well as ID airing two (and mostly rare) episodes on Monday nights, it certainly is a grand time for collecting.

Man, what a wild time it has been. Thrilled to death with the new-to-GSN episodes of Press Your Luck lately, that haven't aired anywhere in over 20 years!

If I'm dreaming, don't wake me.

Was watching last night while studying. I had never seen the Linda Mann episode before. The one that REALLY got my attention, though, was the bizarre story of Joanne Chambers, an elementary school teacher in Pennsylvania who was the target of some kind of particularly vicious character assassination campaign. I mean, the woman found feces smeared on her desk. However, that one didn't turn out at ALL as I expected it would. :eek: It was an extremely intriguing episode. Am loving the new batches!

That Joann Chambers woman is crazy. CRAZY!!!

I don't want to ruin it for those who haven't seen it yet, but everything about her, from her facial expressions to her bizarre actions, let me know she was ready for the padded room. I really have no idea what prompted her to launch a smear campaign against herself as she didn't visibly gain anything by it, and in fact it made her own life worse, but apparently she had a history of doing things like this. I feel bad for Paula Nawrocki that she had to endure all of those false allegations, not to mention paying over $100,000 for legal fees and DNA testing. I find the fact that Chambers is still teaching first grade children to be mildly terrifying.

But what really gets my goat is that Chambers herself still believes she is the victim. I think she's so far lost it that she's lost all sense of reality and she probably believes her own lies.

I did find some relief at the end of the episode when the jurors all coalesced around Nawrocki and ignored Chambers.

But good grief, what a nut Chambers is. The Pam Bailey of Forensic Files.

I was just watching the Dorothy Donovan episode of Forensic Files. I was curious if her son, Charles Holden, was still alive as he wasn't interviewed in the segment but was prominently featured in the Unsolved Mysteries episode about his mother? Anyone happen to know?

I was just watching the Dorothy Donovan episode of Forensic Files. I was curious if her son, Charles Holden, was still alive as he wasn't interviewed in the segment but was prominently featured in the Unsolved Mysteries episode about his mother? Anyone happen to know?
Woah forensic files must be in repeat mode because this is on now. Anyway it was interesting to see how they pretty much felt Charles had to be guilty and in a way his story was hard to believe. As far as Charles I haven't heard anything and UM wikia doesn't have anything.

Woah forensic files must be in repeat mode because this is on now. Anyway it was interesting to see how they pretty much felt Charles had to be guilty and in a way his story was hard to believe. As far as Charles I haven't heard anything and UM wikia doesn't have anything.

They somewhat spoke about him in the past tense as well. Also, one investigator mentioned how Charles was finally exonerated when the real killer was caught. That made me think that authorities still believed Charles had some level of involvement in his mothers murder.

I just watched the one about a CHIP officer named Peyer who used to hunt women down, pull them over, and make them park under this certain overpass where he would harass them. Finally, he "progressed" from mere harassment to murder. He killed a woman and left her body down there. He was basically a serial killer Cop (or at least would have been if he wasn't caught early).

To make matters worse, he was one of those Cops that was on TV representing the highway patrol on Crime stoppers segments, etc. Very interesting story I hadn't heard of before.

I just watched the one about a CHIP officer named Peyer who used to hunt women down, pull them over, and make them park under this certain overpass where he would harass them. Finally, he "progressed" from mere harassment to murder. He killed a woman and left her body down there. He was basically a serial killer Cop (or at least would have been if he wasn't caught early).

To make matters worse, he was one of those Cops that was on TV representing the highway patrol on Crime stoppers segments, etc. Very interesting story I hadn't heard of before.

Oh, I've seen that one on American Justice and City Confidential.

I just watched the one about a CHIP officer named Peyer who used to hunt women down, pull them over, and make them park under this certain overpass where he would harass them. Finally, he "progressed" from mere harassment to murder. He killed a woman and left her body down there. He was basically a serial killer Cop (or at least would have been if he wasn't caught early).

To make matters worse, he was one of those Cops that was on TV representing the highway patrol on Crime stoppers segments, etc. Very interesting story I hadn't heard of before.

I remember that episode ("Badge of Betrayal"). Craig Peyer has been denied parole several times, the latest in 2012. The episode acknowledged that, despite maintaining his innocence, he turned down a request to submit his DNA for testing on the evidence against him (a practice that was unavailable at the time of Cara Knott's murder in December 1986 and Peyer's conviction in 1988). That speaks volumes, because it made me wonder what innocent person wrongfully convicted of murder would refuse such an offer.

The Cara Knott case has also been featured in a 2010 episode of Unusual Suspects; the name of the episode is "Betrayal of Trust."