Click on video at 2:47 LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aIiFvbDWI4

Click on video at 2:47 LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aIiFvbDWI4

LOL

We had this discussion years ago, why are you rehashing a old topic?

[QUOTE=Brieannas21]LOL

We had this discussion years ago, why are you rehashing a old topic?[/QUOTE

Someone in the other post didn't know. And when we had this discussion years ago youtube was not around yet

[QUOTE=Brieannas21]LOL

We had this discussion years ago, why are you rehashing a old topic?[/QUOTE

Someone in the other post didn't know. And when we had this discussion years ago youtube was not around yet

Man you need to get up on your history. When I first joined this site youtube was in existence. And I know that it was a few years after I joined when we had this discussion. Back in the day when the boards were jumping.

[QUOTE=TVFactFan]

Man you need to get up on your history. When I first joined this site youtube was in existence. And I know that it was a few years after I joined when we had this discussion. Back in the day when the boards were jumping.


didn't youtube come out in 2006? I remember the job I had in 2006/2007 I was on youtube in my office

[QUOTE=Brieannas21]


didn't youtube come out in 2006? I remember the job I had in 2006/2007 I was on youtube in my office

2004 Oops 2005

[QUOTE=TVFactFan]

2004 Oops 2005


Well during that time I was unable to post youtube videos so now everyone can see it was a man lol

LOL

We had this discussion years ago, why are you rehashing a old topic?
Well, I was never in on this discussion before now.

TVFactFan, are you sure that was a guy dressed as a girl? :lol:

Well, I was never in on this discussion before now.

TVFactFan, are you sure that was a guy dressed as a girl? :lol:


Just look it's obvious LOL

Just look it's obvious LOL
I do admit the "person" is manly looking, but I was looking to see if he/she had an adam's apple so I could be sure. I didn't see one, so that's why I was wondering if you knew for sure. If I saw an adam's apple, there would be no question. But you're right, that alleged girl looks like a dude. :lol:

I do admit the "person" is manly looking, but I was looking to see if he/she had an adam's apple so I could be sure. I didn't see one, so that's why I was wondering if you knew for sure. If I saw an adam's apple, there would be no question. But you're right, that alleged girl looks like a dude. :lol:


especially when they seperated LOL

I hate to say this because it defies logic, but I'm starting to think TVFactFan is right. :eek:

Looks aside, it's super weird that Michael's kissing buddy, who is called Betty before and after she is seen, isn't credited at the end of the episode or on IMDb.com. There's a Bessie in the credits, but that's Sarina C. Grant (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0335642/) (1948-2005) who talks to Florida in the police station. Sarina also appeared in two earlier episodes of Good Times.

Sometimes actors and actresses go uncredited, but it seems odd to name a character and not have the actor or actress listed in the closing credits. I've seen closing credits that say "Girl in elevator" and generic things like that. IMDb often lists uncredited parts. It's like they used the names Betty and Bessie to cover something up.

especially when they seperated LOL
Yep, the face definitely looked mannish. I just wish I could get a good look at the neck to see if there was an adam's apple. They seemed to be about the same height. I bet that "person" was wearing flat shoes instead of heels so as not to be taller than Michael.

I hate to say this because it defies logic, but I'm starting to think TVFactFan is right. :eek:

Looks aside, it's super weird that Michael's kissing buddy, who is called Betty before and after she is seen, isn't credited at the end of the episode or on IMDb.com. There's a Bessie in the credits, but that's Sarina C. Grant (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0335642/) (1948-2005) who talks to Florida in the police station. Sarina also appeared in two earlier episodes of Good Times.

Sometimes actors and actresses go uncredited, but it seems odd to name a character and not have the actor or actress listed in the closing credits. I've seen closing credits that say "Girl in elevator" and generic things like that. IMDb often lists uncredited parts. It's like they used the names Betty and Bessie to cover something up.



I noticed that too, when the character wasn't credited I knew it was a MAN LOL

Yep, the face definitely looked mannish. I just wish I could get a good look at the neck to see if there was an adam's apple. They seemed to be about the same height. I bet that "person" was wearing flat shoes instead of heels so as not to be taller than Michael.


Michael was a smooth homo in this episode

I guess we'll never know for sure. There's no way you could ask anyone in the cast or crew about this without looking like a weirdo or a bigot.

On a related note about credits, when I was in high school my art teacher told my class that he was the artist that painted the murals and J.J.'s paintings on Good Times. :lol: This was in the 90s, when most people weren't online yet and Good Times wasn't in syndication where I lived. I was very impressed and totally believed him for YEARS. After I graduated I forgot about it, but one morning at about 3:00 AM I caught an episode of Good Times and my teacher's name was nowhere to be found. :lol: I checked IMDb, nothing there either. I kept thinking, well..maybe. But, then I saw a segment about the paintings on TVLand and I knew for sure my art teacher was full of beans.

I guess we'll never know for sure. There's no way you could ask anyone in the cast or crew about this without looking like a weirdo or a bigot.

On a related note about credits, when I was in high school my art teacher told my class that he was the artist that painted the murals and J.J.'s paintings on Good Times. :lol: This was in the 90s, when most people weren't online yet and Good Times wasn't in syndication where I lived. I was very impressed and totally believed him for YEARS. After I graduated I forgot about it, but one morning at about 3:00 AM I caught an episode of Good Times and my teacher's name was nowhere to be found. :lol: I checked IMDb, nothing there either. I kept thinking, well..maybe. But, then I saw a segment about the paintings on TVLand and I knew for sure my art teacher was full of beans.


We do know, it was a BOY

I have serious doubts that Michael was kissing a dude.

It's not uncommon for actors / actresses with minor roles to be uncredited.

IMDb will usually include someone who wasn't credited in their listing but only if someone edits the page and names the person playing the role

Although it's a good idea, looking for an Adam's apple might not be enough because not every man has one that is noticeable. Some (like my brother) have one that sticks out like a sore thumb and others (like myself) have one that is hardly noticeable. In fact, during a routine exam my Dr. asked if was born without one and then checked to be sure I had mine.

Of course none of this proves that Solomon is right or wrong but I just can't see someone being hired to play a love-interest for Michael and Ralph Carter or anyone else failing to notice it was a man.

I have serious doubts that Michael was kissing a dude.

It's not uncommon for actors / actresses with minor roles to be uncredited.

IMDb will usually include someone who wasn't credited in their listing but only if someone edits the page and names the person playing the role

Although it's a good idea, looking for an Adam's apple might not be enough because not every man has one that is noticeable. Some (like my brother) have one that sticks out like a sore thumb and others (like myself) have one that is hardly noticeable. In fact, during a routine exam my Dr. asked if was born without one and then checked to be sure I had mine.

Of course none of this proves that Solomon is right or wrong but I just can't see someone being hired to play a love-interest for Michael and Ralph Carter or anyone else failing to notice it was a man.


if you look at the video you will see it is a guy

Of course none of this proves that Solomon is right or wrong but I just can't see someone being hired to play a love-interest for Michael and Ralph Carter or anyone else failing to notice it was a man.

But, what if she wasn't hired? Actors put their family and friends in scenes all the time. I have my doubts too, but I would be less doubtful if we could see more of the face and had a credit.

But, what if she wasn't hired? Actors put their family and friends in scenes all the time. I have my doubts too, but I would be less doubtful if we could see more of the face and had a credit.


I saw the entire face........."MAN":lol:

if you look at the video you will see it is a guy

I did look at it, can't tell either way.

I did look at it, can't tell either way.


Well that means a tranny can get your number then LOL LOL

But, what if she wasn't hired? Actors put their family and friends in scenes all the time. I have my doubts too, but I would be less doubtful if we could see more of the face and had a credit.

She (or he) had to have been hired to play the role. Actors & actresses very rarely have anything to do with the hiring of the cast unless they're directly involved with the show such as Andy Griffith and Lucille Ball. As far as I know, none of the actors in Good Times nor any Norman Lear show had any say in who was hired, that was left to the casting director.

Well that means a tranny can get your number then LOL LOL

Are you saying I can't tell the difference in a real-life situation? :lol:

She (or he) had to have been hired to play the role. Actors & actresses very rarely have anything to do with the hiring of the cast unless they're directly involved with the show such as Andy Griffith and Lucille Ball. As far as I know, none of the actors in Good Times nor any Norman Lear show had any say in who was hired, that was left to the casting director.

Okay, I believe you because I don't know much about it. Have you ever heard of an instance when an actor insisted that someone they knew be cast in a part? I keep thinking that it would have been easier to cast this small part and hide the person's distinguishing features than to hold up the show and bicker with the actor.

Michael was a smooth homo in this episode

Yeah, he was LOL! Imagine what would've happened if James was still around, LOL!

Yeah, he was LOL! Imagine what would've happened if James was still around, LOL!


Yeah he wasn't even into girls when James was alive

http://i.imgur.com/D4POxuf.jpg (http://lunapic.com>)

I highly doubt the Good Times staff would have allowed Ralph Carter to kiss a dude, considering that the '70s were still very taboo about homosexuality, and Ralph was still a minor. I doubt his parents would have allowed their underaged son to be filmed kissing a dude either on camera. Can you imagine the backlash the Carter family could have gotten back then for that?

I highly doubt the Good Times staff would have allowed Ralph Carter to kiss a dude, considering that the '70s were still very taboo about homosexuality, and Ralph was still a minor. I doubt his parents would have allowed their underaged son to be filmed kissing a dude either on camera. Can you imagine the backlash the Carter family could have gotten back then for that?


If you can't see that is a dude then you need eye surgery

I am totally unconvinced it's a guy in drag, but I see no reason not to simply ask Ralph Carter.

I am totally unconvinced its a guy in drag, but I see no reason not to simply ask Ralph Carter.


make an appt for eye surgery

make an appt for eye surgery
That "person" is so mannish. I don't know how anyone could not at least question whether it is a guy. I don't know for sure it's a guy, but I would guess that it is a guy. That's the way it looks to me.

That "person" is so mannish. I don't know how anyone could not at least question whether it is a guy. I don't know for sure it's a guy, but I would guess that it is a guy. That's the way it looks to me.


Which is why the character wasn't credited LOL

Which is why the character wasn't credited LOL
That fact alone compels me to believe that the kissing partner was indeed a male.
I do think you're right.

[QUOTE=Wawwie]That fact alone compels me to believe that the kissing partner was indeed a male.
I do think you're right.[/QUOTE



You see how Masculine the character was after they stopped kissing? LOL

You see how Masculine the character was after they stopped kissing? LOLIt was like looking at a featherweight boxer in a dress. :lol:

OMG! I cannot believe that we are revisiting this again. As funny as this topic has been though the years, I do believe that it was a girl and not a guy. I don't necessarily need eye surgery....although lazik surgery would not be a bad idea. LOL.

What's next, Sol? Will you then say that some character on Diff'rent Strokes that appeared twice looks like a boy but is really a female and cousin to Arnold's BFF Dudley? Thank goodness you don't know who I'm talking about. *wink* ROTFL.

OMG! I cannot believe that we are revisiting this again. As funny as this topic has been though the years, I do believe that it was a girl and not a guy. I don't necessarily need eye surgery....although lazik surgery would not be a bad idea. LOL.

What's next, Sol? Will you then say that some character on Diff'rent Strokes that appeared twice looks like a boy but is really a female and cousin to Arnold's BFF Dudley? Thank goodness you don't know who I'm talking about. *wink* ROTFL.


I know who you are talking about and she was HOT and a girl. The character in the Good times episode was, A MAN BABY!!!! LOL

Ha Ha Ha! You are a freakin' trip!

[QUOTE=ThomasE]Ha Ha Ha! You are a freakin' trip![/QUOTE



Dudley's cousin actually reminded me of a girl in my class I had a crush on at the time