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DanCart 09-03-2014, 03:54 PM An interesting news story says a video on the Morgan Harrington case will be made for the Unsolved Mysteries website
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Slain-Va-Tech-Students-Case-Featured-on-Unsolved-Mysteries-273765681.html
This case is baffling and every so often new information comes out which casts new light on events on the day when Morgan disappeared and about the offender responsible, maybe UM can finally crack this case....
FantasticallyFlawed 09-08-2014, 02:47 PM An interesting news story says a video on the Morgan Harrington case will be made for the Unsolved Mysteries website
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Slain-Va-Tech-Students-Case-Featured-on-Unsolved-Mysteries-273765681.html
This case is baffling and every so often new information comes out which casts new light on events on the day when Morgan disappeared and about the offender responsible, maybe UM can finally crack this case....
This is so sad... Now wasn't this girl featured on Disappeared??? Her story sounds familiar.
wiseguy182 09-17-2014, 02:04 AM Yeah, this case was covered on Disappeared. I still can't understand why Morgan would leave the rock concert, knowing she wouldn't be allowed back inside. Other than to tend to her drug habit. Not saying she deserved to die or anything like that, but I think she made some pretty foolish choices that evening.
BlueGalexy 09-17-2014, 01:59 PM I always wondered about the possibility of someone slipping something into one of Morgan's drinks. Something like that might account for her odd behavior immediately preceding her disappearance.
On another note, I was pleased to see the addition of John Spira's case to the UM site. Spira happens to have also been profiled on Disappeared.
Necco 09-17-2014, 06:10 PM Just because folks might be interested, there is another girl similar to Morgan Harrington currently missing after a night out in Charlotteville, VA. Her name is Hannah Graham.
LOTS of similarities between Hannah and Morgan. Those of you who are also websleuthers, you might want to check out her thread.
DanCart 09-18-2014, 06:52 PM Yeah, this case was covered on Disappeared. I still can't understand why Morgan would leave the rock concert, knowing she wouldn't be allowed back inside. Other than to tend to her drug habit. Not saying she deserved to die or anything like that, but I think she made some pretty foolish choices that evening.
Excuse me :confused: , drug habit ? I have never heard of this part of the story, could you please shed some light ?
Last year a lawsuit by her parents was apparently being filed after it emerged when Morgan was in the restroom she may have had some kind of injury prior to her being refused re-entry.....
wiseguy182 09-19-2014, 08:15 AM Excuse me :confused: , drug habit ? I have never heard of this part of the story, could you please shed some light ?
Last year a lawsuit by her parents was apparently being filed after it emerged when Morgan was in the restroom she may have had some kind of injury prior to her being refused re-entry.....
Pardon me, that was a bit presumptuous of me, I apologize. Seeing not just hundreds but thousands of these cases, I get the details mixed up some times. I still think it's a possibility though.
What I don't understand is why she would hitchhike out of there?
I really don't think the parents lawsuit will be successful, unless they can uncover some concrete proof that she was injured inside the building due to poor maintenance or something like that.
DanCart 09-19-2014, 08:37 PM Pardon me, that was a bit presumptuous of me, I apologize. Seeing not just hundreds but thousands of these cases, I get the details mixed up some times. I still think it's a possibility though.
What I don't understand is why she would hitchhike out of there?
I really don't think the parents lawsuit will be successful, unless they can uncover some concrete proof that she was injured inside the building due to poor maintenance or something like that.
Yes, funny enough that happens to a lot of us who read many such cases at times :)
I guess she hitchhiked out of there because after being refused re-entry she wasnt a happy bunny and just wanted to go home instead of waiting outside for more than 2 hours for the concert to finish.
Necco 09-20-2014, 10:11 AM Pardon me, that was a bit presumptuous of me, I apologize. Seeing not just hundreds but thousands of these cases, I get the details mixed up some times. I still think it's a possibility though.
What I don't understand is why she would hitchhike out of there?
I really don't think the parents lawsuit will be successful, unless they can uncover some concrete proof that she was injured inside the building due to poor maintenance or something like that.
It is known that she was injured before she left the stadium. Her chin was bleeding. It is possible that when she fell she hit her head.
DarkDante 09-20-2014, 11:18 AM It is known that she was injured before she left the stadium. Her chin was bleeding. It is possible that when she fell she hit her head.
Well from where I stand there are two separate mysteries in this case (which is what wiseguy might have been referring to - not sure).
First is the obvious mystery and the predominant concern for all involved and that is the identification, apprehension and ultimate conviction of Morgan Harrington's killer. In regards to all of that, this case seems eerily similar to the old UM case about Veronica Jefferson, where they found a link between her killer and the murder of two others but for years were unable to identify the suspect. Eventually they were able to bring the case to conclusion and it goes without saying that I hope that Morgan's case is brought to conclusion in short order as her family has suffered long enough.
The second mystery is one which we may never know the full story behind and that is what caused Morgan Harrington's behavior on that evening to deviate from the norm. According to her parents, Morgan was looking forward to attending this concert for weeks prior to the event. So first off it's a bit of a mystery as to why she would find herself outside of the arena before the concert began knowing that the venue had a strict "no re-entry" policy. There have been some reports that Morgan may have been intoxicated but given her erratic behavior on that evening, the intoxication from at least my perspective itself would have to be of a unusually high level.
There are just so many possibilities as to what might have happened to Harrington prior to her leaving the arena. Due to the cut on her chin, we can reasonably assume that she suffered some type of mild injury. Did she fall down due to being in an intoxicated state and sustain the injury. Was she in some type of an altercation? Whatever caused the injury to Harrington's chin, did it also cause some type of trauma to her head which would cause her to lose her bearings?
What flies in the face of that theory though is Morgan had the wherewithal to telephone her friend from outside of the arena. You would think that if she had suffered some type of head trauma that she would not be able to be able to perform such a task? Yet there is evidence of discarded items around the parking lot of the arena. Did Morgan discard those items of her own volition and if so why?
Finally the whole hitchhiking aspect of this case is plain disturbing. Again according to Morgan's parents, hitchhiking was not a usual means of transportation that Morgan would employ. This again goes back to the theory of either Morgan being in a state in which her judgment would be impaired.
Again the tragedy of this case is just off the charts. There were obviously many people around that arena that night who probably could've offered assistance to Morgan Harrington (and from what I understand some of them offered) and could've gotten her to a hospital or a safe place but somehow incomprehensibly she somehow found her way into the arms of a killer.
I really wonder if there is a connection between the two sets of circumstances (1st: What led Morgan Harrington to behave erratically on the evening she was murdered? 2: Who killed Morgan Harrington?). Could there be a possible pre-medidated rape scenario that occurred here?
wiseguy182 09-21-2014, 12:25 AM ^excellent post. Summed up my thoughts entirely.
BlueGalexy 09-23-2014, 12:54 AM DarkDante, you've described some of my own thoughts about this case to a T. I've always had lingering questions about this case. First of all, please feel free to correct me fellow posters if any of my assumptions are incorrect. I seem to recall hearing that there was video surveillance at the arena which documented Miss Harrington's movements on her way out of the building. Did it show anyone else however? Was there anyone shadowing her movements for example, or did anything unusual appear in the footage?
Another thing I'm unclear on, is who was providing the transportation that night? I thought I read that Miss Harrington was driving the group in her vehicle, but then some time later a friend ended up in possession of her car keys. Which is what resulted in her being stranded when she left the building. How did that whole mix-up occur?
One of the more unsettling questions I have is this: when it became apparent that Miss Harrington would not be able to rejoin her companions, why didn't any of them go to her? If for no other reason than to return her car keys to her. I'm absolutely not sitting in judgment of anyone or accusing any of her friends of wrong doing, but am curious all the same. I realize that no one wants to miss a show they've paid to see, but it seems like a good idea for everyone to stay together. The “buddy system" is for everyone's safety.
Ultimately I have to believe that this case will be solved and that the solution will be arrived at through the aggressive pursuit of the DNA evidence.
wiseguy182 09-23-2014, 11:19 AM from the Disappeared episode.
Morgan's friends stated she was drinking that night. The various eyewitness accounts stated that Morgan was outside the arena fumbling. So I think there is a good possibility that alcohol is a contributing factor here.
I would have to imagine the friend came into possession of Morgan's car keys because she was unable to drive herself due to her intoxicated state. That is really the only reason I can think of that the friend would have the keys.
When Morgan talked to one of her friends on the cell phone when she was outside the arena, she told her she would "get a ride". That should of sent up a red flag to the friend right there, as it's doubtful Morgan would have known anyone in the area. Apparently, the friend opted to finish listening to the concert.
In regard to Dante's point, I'm not sure phoning a friend would have required that much cognizance on her part. If she has speed dial or whatever, all she has to do is push a button and she's on the line with someone.
Morgan was seen heading towards the exit and was warned she would not be allowed re-entry, but left for unknown reasons anyways. The only thing we know for certain about her reasons for leaving her seat was that she claimed she had to use the restroom. There were 18 clearly marked ladies rooms in the building, so I have no idea why she would need to leave the arena to use the restroom, if that is in fact why she left.
The police were able to obtains hundreds of hours of surveillance footage from dozens of local businesses. They weren't able to ascertain that Morgan was on any of those tapes.
I must say, I was perturbed by something Morgan's mother said, stating it was "demoralizing" that volunteers "quit on Morgan" after 8 weeks. Gah, these people devoted their time and effort to help find Morgan, and all the mother can do is bitch and moan about how they didn't do more? Get real lady.
Morgan wore a Pantera shirt to a Metallica concert. Isn't that kind of tacky?
tarheelslim 09-23-2014, 01:26 PM Morgan wore a Pantera shirt to a Metallica concert. Isn't that kind of tacky?
Totally appropriate. A lot of people think it isn't cool to wear a shirt of the band you're seeing to their show.
tarheelslim 09-23-2014, 01:29 PM Another thing I'm unclear on, is who was providing the transportation that night? I thought I read that Miss Harrington was driving the group in her vehicle, but then some time later a friend ended up in possession of her car keys. Which is what resulted in her being stranded when she left the building. How did that whole mix-up occur?
There has been a lot of speculation that her license was suspended at the time, but the group still used her car.
Necco 09-23-2014, 03:42 PM Totally appropriate. A lot of people think it isn't cool to wear a shirt of the band you're seeing to their show.
Yes. You never wear the band you're going to see. But similar bands are acceptable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgFcl3BrJpU
wiseguy182 09-24-2014, 02:16 AM Yes. You never wear the band you're going to see. But similar bands are acceptable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgFcl3BrJpU
why? I think the band you're going to see would be flattered you're spending money on their merchandise.
Necco 09-24-2014, 02:59 PM why? I think the band you're going to see would be flattered you're spending money on their merchandise.
It's just not cool. Other fans will view you as either a) being overly fanboy-esque or b) trying to prove how big a fan you are by wearing a shirt from a much earlier tour.
You're at the show. Obviously you like the band. It isn't a contest to see who is the super fan. Wearing the shirt either makes you seem overly excited or overly pretentious. It's just how it works. You don't wear the t-shirt of the band you're going to see.
Otherwise, you are That Guy.
http://www.thatsnotmetal.com/2010/12/wearing-shirt-of-band-youre-seeing-live.html
http://www.altpress.com/features/entry/the_10_commandments_of_show_going
http://www.aux.tv/2010/02/dos-and-donts-of-band-t-shirts/
BlueGalexy 09-24-2014, 04:39 PM OMG...I never knew. I've always worn the performing act's t-shirt to every concert I've attended. I'm “That Guy"!
DarkDante 09-24-2014, 05:13 PM It's just not cool. Other fans will view you as either a) being overly fanboy-esque or b) trying to prove how big a fan you are by wearing a shirt from a much earlier tour.
You're at the show. Obviously you like the band. It isn't a contest to see who is the super fan. Wearing the shirt either makes you seem overly excited or overly pretentious. It's just how it works. You don't wear the t-shirt of the band you're going to see.
Otherwise, you are That Guy.
http://www.thatsnotmetal.com/2010/12/wearing-shirt-of-band-youre-seeing-live.html
http://www.altpress.com/features/entry/the_10_commandments_of_show_going
http://www.aux.tv/2010/02/dos-and-donts-of-band-t-shirts/
This isn't directed at Necco because I know he/she didn't make up the rule, but my god, the arbitrary, nonsensical rules that we as a society come up with to govern our behavior. You have to think that if only we could put that energy or brainpower towards something useful... :rolleyes:
Necco 09-24-2014, 05:48 PM This isn't directed at Necco because I know he/she didn't make up the rule, but my god, the arbitrary, nonsensical rules that we as a society come up with to govern our behavior. You have to think that if only we could put that energy or brainpower towards something useful... :rolleyes:
I'm a she, so, I guess technically, I could never be That Guy, since I don't have the right parts :) . And mostly, I just wanted to link to the PCU clip because it's hilarious.
I would argue that art, music and aesthetic contemplation and the rules that regard it are as important as politics or health when it comes to quality of life, but I understand your point. As humans, we tend to make order, etiquette and protocol regarding everything. It's silly, but it is also incredibly human. And, at least we're grouping people by behavior instead of racial or economic issues.
wiseguy182 09-25-2014, 12:04 AM This isn't directed at Necco because I know he/she didn't make up the rule, but my god, the arbitrary, nonsensical rules that we as a society come up with to govern our behavior. You have to think that if only we could put that energy or brainpower towards something useful... :rolleyes:
Agreed in full.
MegtheEgg86 09-25-2014, 12:06 AM It's just not cool. Other fans will view you as either a) being overly fanboy-esque or b) trying to prove how big a fan you are by wearing a shirt from a much earlier tour.
You're at the show. Obviously you like the band. It isn't a contest to see who is the super fan. Wearing the shirt either makes you seem overly excited or overly pretentious. It's just how it works. You don't wear the t-shirt of the band you're going to see.
Otherwise, you are That Guy.
http://www.thatsnotmetal.com/2010/12/wearing-shirt-of-band-youre-seeing-live.html
http://www.altpress.com/features/entry/the_10_commandments_of_show_going
http://www.aux.tv/2010/02/dos-and-donts-of-band-t-shirts/
I wore a Rush shirt to a Kiss concert once. Not only did I get a few sideways glances, I felt like probably the most pretentious person in the audience.
Gotta realize them implications.
ETA: Perfectly acceptable to wear an Iron Maiden shirt to see Iron Maiden. That was always the one exception to the rule in some parts (and in my book), but I can't really explain why.
tarheelslim 09-25-2014, 10:13 AM I wore a Rush shirt to a Kiss concert once. Not only did I get a few sideways glances, I felt like probably the most pretentious person in the audience.
Ha!
I wore a KISS tee to a Sonic Youth show in the early 90s just to be weird, and I guess it worked??
tarheelslim 09-25-2014, 10:22 AM Just because folks might be interested, there is another girl similar to Morgan Harrington currently missing after a night out in Charlotteville, VA. Her name is Hannah Graham.
LOTS of similarities between Hannah and Morgan. Those of you who are also websleuthers, you might want to check out her thread.
To bring it back to Morgan, it's good that her case has been getting a lot of attention due to Hannah's disappearance. A lot of people are wondering if the suspect in HG's case is good for MH's, but there's no evidence of a connection so far. Both were drunk college girls walking alone who disappeared in close proximity to each other.
tarheelslim 09-29-2014, 01:07 PM Holy crap.
Forensic evidence links Hannah Graham suspect to murdered Virginia Tech student Morgan Harrington (http://wtvr.com/2014/09/29/hannah-graham-morgan-harrington-connection/)
Looks like it is the guy, which means he was likely a serial murderer/rapist.
TracyLynnS 09-29-2014, 08:48 PM According to the DM, he's linked to four rapes/murders/disappearances.
2014 - Hannah Graham disappearance
2009 - Morgan Harrington, disappearance, murder
2005 - 26 year old woman, rape
2002 - Female college student, accused of rape, not convicted
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At the bottom of the article, it even mentions that Alicia Showalter Reynolds (and several other women) went missing from that same area
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2773896/Police-claim-IS-forensic-evidence-linking-Hannah-Graham-suspect-Jesse-Matthew-coped-raped-murdered-2009.html
wiseguy182 09-30-2014, 05:35 AM Holy crap.
Forensic evidence links Hannah Graham suspect to murdered Virginia Tech student Morgan Harrington (http://wtvr.com/2014/09/29/hannah-graham-morgan-harrington-connection/)
Looks like it is the guy, which means he was likely a serial murderer/rapist.
Last week, I compared the composite sketch of Morgan Harrington's killer with a pic of Jesse Matthew. I thought they were one in the same.
Btw, I'm getting sick of all these parents of killers going on t.v. and saying "there's no way my child could have done that." Want to guess again?
DarkDante 09-30-2014, 07:14 AM Last week, I compared the composite sketch of Morgan Harrington's killer with a pic of Jesse Matthew. I thought they were one in the same.
Btw, I'm getting sick of all these parents of killers going on t.v. and saying "there's no way my child could have done that." Want to guess again?
I read an article (in fact it might be the daily mail one) that notes that Matthew drove a taxi cab when Harrington was abducted and murdered which perhaps solves a major hole in this particular mystery in terms of how he may have encountered Harrington who was seen hitchhiking on the evening she vanished.
This is just a guess but someone who was looking to hitchhike would probably be more willing to get into a taxicab than into the car of a complete stranger. Since Matthew had a history of giving "free lifts" to women, I'm sure the scumbag had a ready made line to feed her about how he helped stranded women motorists on the side of the road or whatever.
I posted a bit about this last night and then deleted it due to length but this case has been on my mind all month and really affected me in a way few cases have before. While nothing can bring Morgan Harrington back to her family, hopefully we are now moving into the phase where we as a society can hold this creep responsible for his actions. The overriding feeling I had on this case since the Harrington's appeal to the UM fanbase for information was that this case and their pain had gone on long enough and whomever took Morgan Harrington's life had absolutely no business walking the streets while Morgan Harrington has been dead for five years. This case was just so unbelievably tragic, cruel and senseless that those words seem to become cliche. My thoughts are with the Harringtons and I hope that the resolution to this case as well as Morgan's spirit continues to provide them comfort through the rest of their lives.
wiseguy182 09-30-2014, 08:02 AM Interesting about the taxi.
Sadly, I don't believe Hannah Graham is going to be found alive. I wonder if they've checked similar locales to that of where Morgan was found.
LilMissKryssy 09-30-2014, 02:22 PM I was just about to post that. I have been following morgans case ever since she first vanished. I am so glad they matched the DNA and broke her case open. I figured it would be DNA that would eventually connect someone to her disappearance. Its terrible and tragic its at the cost of another life (sadly the most likely the outcome here). The one thing I never understood is why she left the building if she was just going to a bathroom. There were tons of clearly labeled restrooms and she was well aware of the no reentry policy. I know her friends acknowledged they had been drinking but they said she wasn't intoxicated. If she was sober or anything less than wasted, that decision makes absolutely no sense. She was underage so it wasn't like she could buy more booze on her way to the bathroom and I doubt somebody sober would just drink something a random stranger gave them on the way to the bathroom. Her behavior outside the arena sounds of someone who was severely intoxicated (alcohol or drugs). I know people said she had hit her head but witnesses said she was stumbling everywhere so I'm inclined to believe the mark was caused because she was incapacitated and not that the mark on her head caused her to act like that. It might've made it worse in some way but I'm inclined to believe she was falling in the parking lot because she was very intoxicated.
DarkDante 09-30-2014, 05:53 PM I was just about to post that. I have been following morgans case ever since she first vanished. I am so glad they matched the DNA and broke her case open. I figured it would be DNA that would eventually connect someone to her disappearance. Its terrible and tragic its at the cost of another life (sadly the most likely the outcome here). The one thing I never understood is why she left the building if she was just going to a bathroom. There were tons of clearly labeled restrooms and she was well aware of the no reentry policy. I know her friends acknowledged they had been drinking but they said she wasn't intoxicated. If she was sober or anything less than wasted, that decision makes absolutely no sense. She was underage so it wasn't like she could buy more booze on her way to the bathroom and I doubt somebody sober would just drink something a random stranger gave them on the way to the bathroom. Her behavior outside the arena sounds of someone who was severely intoxicated (alcohol or drugs). I know people said she had hit her head but witnesses said she was stumbling everywhere so I'm inclined to believe the mark was caused because she was incapacitated and not that the mark on her head caused her to act like that. It might've made it worse in some way but I'm inclined to believe she was falling in the parking lot because she was very intoxicated.
Since they mentioned a forensic link, I'm pretty sure what they are referring to is DNA evidence of some sort. The authorities have been aware I believe since 2012 of a DNA link between the Harrington case and the rape of a Virginia woman in 2005. To briefly recap the woman in question survived the assault and was able to help police create a composite which is where the sketch of the murderer in this case comes from.
That being said one of the articles I read on this case last night has got me wondering if the evidence may actually be some of Harrington's possessions that were never recovered by the authorities. Most notably the website linked at the bottom of this post notes that Harrington had a camera with her on the night of her disappearance/murder and that camera has never been located. I really wonder if Jesse Matthews like so many other of these types decided to retain a keepsake of his crime in order that he may have something which will aide him in reliving his crime whenever he so chooses. Guys like Jesse Matthew aren't necessarily the sharpest tools in the shed so it wouldn't surprise me if he like many others like him ended up setting a ready made trap for himself.
The first thing that came to my mind when I learned that police had searched his residence is if they found Morgan's camera or film from it at Matthews residence?
http://blinkoncrime.com/category/morgan-harrington/
Edit: The following website contains photographs of the items that were in Morgan Harrington's possession the night she was murdered and have never been recovered. The include the aforementioned camera as well as a Swarovski necklace. The necklace seems particularly intriguing as the other items of jewelry Morgan was wearing were found with her remains. It's strange and perhaps no coincidence that this one particular piece of jewelry went missing:
https://storify.com/C2Case/morgan-harrington
TracyLynnS 09-30-2014, 09:32 PM Guys like Jesse Matthew aren't necessarily the sharpest tools in the shed
I couldn't believe that when they found him, he hadn't done anything to change his appearance. He's a big guy so he already sticks out like a sore thumb. He could have cropped his hair, but instead, left those long obvious dreadlocks hanging on his head.
He could have altered the license plate on the car, for one thing it was an out of state plate so automatically catches people's attention, plus running the plate showed who it was registered to. If I were him I would have considered stealing a texas plate off some other car and ditching the VA plate.
The guy is either really stupid, or just over confident because he's gotten away with so much for so long.
DarkDante 09-30-2014, 10:24 PM The revelation of the forensic link between Harrington's case and that of Hannah Graham has brought about the return of the well known Unsolved Mysteries "Update" segment now featuring on the official UM "digital video" channel.
Not sure how I feel about this as the new "Update" segment doesn't bear much in common with it's predecessor and man oh man after all these years I still miss Bob. But seeing the words "Update" flash across the screen followed by a brief summary of the recent developments in the Harrington case did bring back some nostalgic memories.
PS: Unsolved Mysteries has also mentioned in the Update segment that they will bring us more information as it becomes available. That promise will no doubt also bring up some nostalgic feelings amongst the regulars on this forum as well :lol:
TracyLynnS 10-02-2014, 08:08 PM A commenter on the UM YT made an interesting observation.
Two weeks after Morgan's parents posted the video to YT asking for help identifying her killer, Hannah Graham was abducted.
The video was posted on August 29 and Hannah went missing on September 13.
The commenter suspected that because they asked the viewers for help because they didn't want to see another girl to be dead, Jesse Matthew was saying FU to the Harringtons and went right out and killed another girl.
DarkDante 10-02-2014, 09:41 PM A commenter on the UM YT made an interesting observation.
Two weeks after Morgan's parents posted the video to YT asking for help identifying her killer, Hannah Graham was abducted.
The video was posted on August 29 and Hannah went missing on September 13.
The commenter suspected that because they asked the viewers for help because they didn't want to see another girl to be dead, Jesse Matthew was saying FU to the Harringtons and went right out and killed another girl.
Anything is possible but I doubt it. My read on this individual is that his focus (if he is indeed guilty of the atrocities he's been accused of) begins and ends with being able to gain access to women whom he would normally not be able to access without some degree of effort on his part, if at all. There may be a great sense of frustration on his part of not being able to have access to women who fit the profile of his alleged victims which may in fact scratch out a potential motive for the atrocities which he has allegedly committed.
That being said it has been pointed out that Matthew selected professions which would put him in a position where he would be able to access women more casually than other professions would. As I mentioned if he is involved in the Harrington murder, the fact that he drove a taxicab at the time Harrington was abducted is of particular importance as it was under this guise that he would've been able to access women under the guise of a friendly cab driver looking out for young female motorists who might be stranded on the side of the road.
Likewise it has been revealed that Matthew most recently held down a job at a local hospital as I believe an orderly. Even though Matthew obviously had no medical training, he could have made good use of the knowledge he gained from being around those who do on a daily basis. Given the right circumstances, possessing even anecdotal knowledge regarding medical conditions can elicit a sense of trust or respect from other individuals that you have their best interests at heart. It's quite possible in my mind that if Matthew is involved in the disappearance of Hannah Graham that he may have used knowledge gained from his work alongside medical professionals to earn her trust and or respect. If Graham was indeed sufficiently inebriated or becoming ill from having too much drink, the accused may have informed her that he had seen similar situations involving intoxication through his work at the hospital and that she needed to be seen by a doctor as soon as possible. He could've offered a ride to a local hospital and subsequently Hannah Graham has never been seen since.
Again my feeling is that if Matthew is indeed guilty of the crimes he is accused of than his motivations for these atrocities center specifically around the victims and the victims alone. It's a reasonable assumption given both cases that the accused would have not had an opportunity well in advance to select a victim, but instead his victims are pretty much random targets or convenient victims. However, as I outlined I believe there is some thought given to how he can access his victims with the least amount of resistance from them. To paraphrase another UM segment, "it's sort of like setting a trap in the woods", you don't know exactly what you will catch but you are prepared to catch something.
wiseguy182 10-03-2014, 03:18 AM I agree Dante that he probably went out trolling for victims.
The latest news is that he attended 2 different colleges in the early 2000's and was accused of rapes at both, but apparently was never charged and convicted. Sounds like he started out raping, then eventually started murdering his victims as well. Hopefully he'll never get out of prison so he can't do this type of thing again.
RSully94 10-18-2014, 09:39 PM It looks like they may have found Hannah's remains...the same area where Morgan's was found.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/18/us/hannah-graham-disappearance/index.html
wiseguy182 10-19-2014, 12:11 AM It looks like they may have found Hannah's remains...the same area where Morgan's was found.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/18/us/hannah-graham-disappearance/index.html
I wrote earlier on here they should be checking near where Morgan was found.
Padfoot 10-20-2014, 04:48 PM A commenter on the UM YT made an interesting observation.
Two weeks after Morgan's parents posted the video to YT asking for help identifying her killer, Hannah Graham was abducted.
The video was posted on August 29 and Hannah went missing on September 13.
The commenter suspected that because they asked the viewers for help because they didn't want to see another girl to be dead, Jesse Matthew was saying FU to the Harringtons and went right out and killed another girl.
That's an interesting observation.
I tend to think that the Harringtons' video might have been a catalyst for Jesse Matthew's actions. He could be the type of killer who would kidnap and murder another girl just to say FU, look what I can still do. Or the Harringtons' video could have created so much anxiety in him that he had to relieve some tension and feed his sick desires.
I wonder if we will find out he's guilty of other attacks in between Dana and Morgan.
Padfoot 10-20-2014, 04:53 PM It looks like they may have found Hannah's remains...the same area where Morgan's was found.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/18/us/hannah-graham-disappearance/index.html
I wonder how far apart the locations were?
wiseguy182 10-21-2014, 05:01 AM That's an interesting observation.
I tend to think that the Harringtons' video might have been a catalyst for Jesse Matthew's actions. He could be the type of killer who would kidnap and murder another girl just to say FU, look what I can still do. Or the Harringtons' video could have created so much anxiety in him that he had to relieve some tension and feed his sick desires.
I wonder if we will find out he's guilty of other attacks in between Dana and Morgan.
I believe the motive was rape. The guy's a serial rapist. I think the last thing he wanted was for his various crimes to be linked together (which they were). Now he could face all sorts of charges. He would have preferred if it everyone was unaware of the cases all being connected.
Plus, Morgan's parents have been campaigning for years to find her killer. They did a Disappeared episode awhile back. It's not like the video from two months ago was their first time asking for the killer to be found.
yasdnil 10-22-2014, 12:41 PM I wonder how far apart the locations were?
About four miles, according to this article. BBM:
CBS 6 has learned the the prime suspect in Graham’s disappearance, Jesse Matthew Jr., used to live only four miles away from where the body was found. The abandoned property is also just over four miles away from where Morgan Harrington’s remains were found.
http://wtvr.com/2014/10/21/property-where-human-remains-found-in-hannah-graham-search-called-teardrop-hill/
Also, the reported address is about 11.6 miles from Tempo Restaurant, where Hannah and Jesse were last seen:
https://goo.gl/maps/wsjzb
wiseguy182 09-25-2015, 11:44 PM There is a 2-hour episode on Hannah Graham tomorrow on the season premiere of 48 Hours on CBS, check local listings.
where is yasdnil? Come back please!
tarheelslim 09-28-2015, 11:19 AM Jesse Matthew was charged with the murder of Morgan 2 weeks ago.
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