Choosing from these cases only who do you believe the most? Some of the cases have not been profiled on UM.

Travis Walton
Stan Michalek
Frederick Valentich
Betty and Barney Hill
Allagash Abductions
John Glenn

Bentwaters UFO.

Belgium UFO sightings.

I'm usually very skeptical of these things but, to me, the most compelling cases are those where there is some kind of physical evidence left behind such as in the Stephen Michalek case and the Betty Cash and Vicki Landrum case.

The Belgium UFO case for sure.

I'm definitely open to life being out there somewhere, and if I had to give a yes or no answer, I would say that yes, there is life out there. Based on how long the universe has been around, its very easy to believe that their technology would dwarf ours. Having said that, I just don't believe we've been visited yet.

Therefore, its hard to for me to give any real answer on which one I think is most believable as I think they're all of earthly origin, regardless of whether I can explain every aspect of the specific case.

One of the flaws of those who believe that we've been visited is that if you cannot explain everything about the case, then it MUST be ufo's. That's quite a leap just because we cannot explain everything.

Belgium UFO sightings

UFO over Phoenix

Lights around Washington D.C.

Rendlesham forest incident

One of the flaws of those who believe that we've been visited is that if you cannot explain everything about the case, then it MUST be ufo's. That's quite a leap just because we cannot explain everything.

Not quite. The term "UFO" is a commonly misunderstood term. It's an abbreviation for "Unidentified Flying Object" which could be a whole host of things, one of which is an alien spaceship. It does not mean it is an alien spaceship, it just simply means it's an unidentified flying object.

I'm usually very skeptical of these things but, to me, the most compelling cases are those where there is some kind of physical evidence left behind such as in the Stephen Michalek case and the Betty Cash and Vicki Landrum case.

I might be in the minority here but I don't think the "Spaceship" Betty Cash and Vicki Landrum saw was from outer space. However, I do think their story was very real and whatever it was they saw ultimately killed them in the end.

I might be in the minority here but I don't think the "Spaceship" Betty Cash and Vicki Landrum saw was from outer space. However, I do think their story was very real and whatever it was they saw ultimately killed them in the end.

Yes, I would have to agree in the sense that I don't think it was something from outer space. I always got a strong military/coverup vibe on this one.

If any of the alleged witnesses in a UFO sighting turns out to be an alien/UFO aficionado, that's usually a good sign that the "sighting" is faked. Allagash comes to mind, both Weiner brothers were interested in alien life and UFO's in general. But when there are several credible witnesses, like the Belgium UFO segment, I tend to think they are telling the truth. I don't think aliens are piloting the craft. More than likely, it's some sort of military testing of new aircraft.

It’s really hard for me to believe me any of them to be honest.:confused:

Since UFO simply means unidentified flying object, I believe all of the ones that weren't explained. They were flying and no one knew what they were.

Not quite. The term "UFO" is a commonly misunderstood term. It's an abbreviation for "Unidentified Flying Object" which could be a whole host of things, one of which is an alien spaceship. It does not mean it is an alien spaceship, it just simply means it's an unidentified flying object.

Yes those terms do get mixed together. UFO just means unidentified flying objects. It could have been a toy helicopter that was just unidentified. What I mean is that I don't think any outside life has found earth and are watching it, so I think all UFO incidents are non-alien, either fakes or just misidentified earthly devices.

Definitely the Cash Landrum UFO.

I believe what happened to them was real and was in no way a hoax on their part.

And that's kinda the problem for UFOs, Bigfoot, Mothman, Chupacabras, etc for me, even outside UM. So many people are out to perpetrate hoaxes involving these things that the hoax stories take attention away from the ones that are worth discussing. The fakers often cause people who have experienced something real to be dismissed by the public.

If any of the alleged witnesses in a UFO sighting turns out to be an alien/UFO aficionado, that's usually a good sign that the "sighting" is faked. Allagash comes to mind, both Weiner brothers were interested in alien life and UFO's in general. But when there are several credible witnesses, like the Belgium UFO segment, I tend to think they are telling the truth. I don't think aliens are piloting the craft. More than likely, it's some sort of military testing of new aircraft.


My thoughts exactly. To the Weiner brothers, you can add Betty Hill, Travis Walton and Frederick Valentich. Hill, I feel, genuinely believed her story. The rest, in my view, are flat out frauds.

Betty and Barney Hill hands down. It was obvious they absolutely believed their own story.

I always thought Bob Matthews from the 'missing time' segment absolutely experienced something, whatever it may be. I always thought he sounded like one of the most believable folks ever interviewed on UM.

If any of the alleged witnesses in a UFO sighting turns out to be an alien/UFO aficionado, that's usually a good sign that the "sighting" is faked.

Do you mean cases featured on UM or witnesses in general?

Do you mean cases featured on UM or witnesses in general?

In general, not necessarily on UM.

Of the ones mentioned, I'd probably lean toward Travis Walton. While there is evidence to suggest HE may have hoaxed the incident, I have always felt his friends (and my feeling is he himself) were telling the truth. If his friend believed what happened to him, he would ad to have hoaxed the entire incident right in front of them, then made it out of the woods undetected and his for five days while searches were conducted.

That is a lot to fake to people in the manner he would have needed to. So over all, I tend to think there was some truth to the story.

I actually think most of the UM cases are pretty believable.

Somewhat OT:

When I was a kid, I wasn't super crazy about UFOs/aliens. I was more ghost obsessed.

As an adult, I got much moreE into UFOs and aliens.

Interesting article. Not surprising

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-28143994

Interesting article. Not surprising

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-28143994

It makes sense and then it doesn't make sense. Why would the CIA wait until 60 some odd years later to say it was them? After the Soviets shot down a U2 spy plane in the 60's the cat was pretty much out of the bag. Project Bluebook was closed after the incident as well. I'm not saying that U2 planes weren't involved, but that the timing of this report is pretty suspicious and can't really be taken at face value.

I believe the majority of the cases profiled.

I'd say the ones I may believe the most aren't listed by the OP. That would be the 1947 Roswell incident and what happened with Bob Matthews.

I believe most of the cases involving UFO's. By that I mean, I believe the people being interviewed on unsolved mysteries THINK they saw something. I don't think any of these people would make up a story of seeing a something in the sky, but that doesn't always mean that what they saw are alien spaceships.
Same goes with all the Lochness and Lake monster episodes. I believe they saw something and don't think they fabricated their encounter, but I am not sure if what they thought they saw was a lake monster.
As far as the Alagash abductions go, I hope what they saw was only in their head and they were all on some sort of hallucinogenic drug. That episode is still terrifying to me. The drawings and men that were interviewed all seemed very believable to me!

The Allegash abduction is one of the scarier cases of alleged alien abduction. Something clearly happened to these men, whether it was a result of something earth-bound or not.

The two that always seemed to me to be the most believable were the Cash-Landrum sighting and the Belgian UFO's, due to the illnesses of the first one and that so many people saw the same thing in the second, that it could not be a hoax or mass hysteria.

Please don't laugh, but when I first saw the Gulf Breeze episode as a 12 yr old around 1988-89 (The original story, not the follow up expose) I was genuinely spooked by the photos and though it was all very real. That one particular photo of the UFO hovering over the road really scared me for some reason. :eek: :eek:

I always thought the Dorothy Izatt story (Vancouver Lights) had a ring of authenticity to it. She just seemed like a nice, down-to-earth lady who wouldn't promote a hoax.

I find that most of the UM stories could be true. I hold out hope for all of them, except one.

The only I cannot believe is the MIB sighting in New York City. To me, that portion of the segment is even more ridiculous than the magic rock (and I'm not saying the magic rock couldn't be real).

I believe the 4 men camping
the mom, maw maw and little boy
and the Canadian man who was burned on his belly

It doesn't really lend to credibility of a sighting, but I always found it interesting that the Rendlesham Forest (near the Royal Air Force base in England) UFO sighting occurred a few days before Betty Cash and her family had the incident driving home from dinner in Texas.

Perhaps the UFOs were heading west? Only half joking.

I find NONE of them believable. I think most are hoaxers and liars, there might be a few who genuinely believe they've had alien encounters.

I tend to not believe most of them because of sensationalism. Even the believable ones like RAF Bentwaters must have been seeing some type of drone, but I question some of their testimony as being sincere. I do think that some of the sightings like the Hudson Valley one could have been the stealth bomber. the Air Force did a good job of keeping that platform a secret and could have been flying it at night. there was a long time where they would not allow it to fly in the day time. If you see it fly at night it looks like a lot of the UFO sightings that were spotted in the 90's. I do know that when I lived in Phoenix someone got exposed for tying lava lamps to balloons and releasing them at night. Then you have the crop circles which are known to have been pranks.

I agree with Dallas Texan here. Helicopters were mistaken for UFOs at a certain base. They were operating with no lights. Static electricity forms around helicopters. At night it is most visible on the tips of the rotor blades. This forms a static electric light circle which eyes interpret as a disk. When video cameras with lowlight capabilities came out in the 1980s. Footage of these flying disks was captured. And occasionally a figure with a big head and "eyes" would be filmed. A pilot in a sage flightsuit wearing a helmet with the dark sunshade up looks like a "Grey" with large glossy black eyes. These pilots when at a safe altitude love to spotlight intruders on the ground. Who run sometimes and occasionly encounter concertina wire. Which leaves oval cuts.

I agree with Dallas Texan here. Helicopters were mistaken for UFOs at a certain base. They were operating with no lights. Static electricity forms around helicopters. At night it is most visible on the tips of the rotor blades. This forms a static electric light circle which eyes interpret as a disk. When video cameras with lowlight capabilities came out in the 1980s. Footage of these flying disks was captured. And occasionally a figure with a big head and "eyes" would be filmed. A pilot in a sage flightsuit wearing a helmet with the dark sunshade up looks like a "Grey" with large glossy black eyes. These pilots when at a safe altitude love to spotlight intruders on the ground. Who run sometimes and occasionly encounter concertina wire. Which leaves oval cuts.

yes. I did almost 21 years in the Air Force. recently retired. about 15 of those years I worked with fighters. My favorite memories, aside from working with some great people, will always be watching all the jets and other airplanes taking off and flying at night. it's a sight to behold.

You can make Swiss cheese out of even the best evidence.

You can make Swiss cheese out of even the best evidence.

Best evidence is in the minds eye.

There's a story where something like 6 nurses who worked on a specific floor of a Boston hospital have been diagnosed with brain tumors.

the anti-vaxxers have hit in force on it saying that is "proof" that vaccines caused their tumors.

I guess the vaccine is altitude specific so far as what medical ailments it can lead to..

Brain cancer/tumor clusters are nothing new.. And we do not have a good explanation for them always.

David West, Tug McGraw, Ken Brett, John Vukovich, Johnny Oates and Darren Daulton all played for the Philadephia Phillies at Veterans Stadium in Philly. All 6 died of Glioblastoma. Some people are pointing to the artificial turf as the cause.. Can't say they're wrong.. But.. They didn't have COVID vaccines.. And the Boston Hospital I doubt has astroturf on the floor those nurses worked at.

The 1979 Robert Taylor incident in Scotland. I don't believe he was attacked by aliens, however he was a credible witness who clearly wasn't hoaxing like most, likely had a medical incident of some sort-the trousers being ripped can be pretty easily explained via his job as a forestry worker.

However the impressions witnessed by the police & others aren't quite as easy to explain. The only credible explnation as none of the equipment used in the forst matched, was that pipes might have been stacked there during the local water authority installing a cable duct there recently-though this never seems to have been confirmed or proven.

Betty Cash, obviously it wasn't aliens, but something governmental, i mean all 3 of them got really really ill, even cancer right? after that "experience" all backed up by doctors..

thats not a coincidence.

The government even seemed to accept some level of responsabilty, then changed their mind.

Even though i'm not a conspiracy theorist with these things, it's clear that the government has technolgy that we're not aware of and that is capable of doing strange things.

Again i'm not a conspiracy theorist here, but it reminds me of the mysterious blob segment, something from the sky making people ill. just like the UFO.

Even early this year, people were claiming that this strange "fog" had a strange chemical smell and made people sick...

Who knows, but it makes you think. the mysterious blob thing is true, we just don't know what it was and why, i've never believed in chemtrails but it does make you think what techology there is and how it's been capable of making people sick, accidentally or not..

Betty Cash, obviously it wasn't aliens, but something governmental, i mean all 3 of them got really really ill, even cancer right? after that "experience" all backed up by doctors..

thats not a coincidence.

The government even seemed to accept some level of responsabilty, then changed their mind.

Even though i'm not a conspiracy theorist with these things, it's clear that the government has technolgy that we're not aware of and that is capable of doing strange things.

Again i'm not a conspiracy theorist here, but it reminds me of the mysterious blob segment, something from the sky making people ill. just like the UFO.

Even early this year, people were claiming that this strange "fog" had a strange chemical smell and made people sick...

Who knows, but it makes you think. the mysterious blob thing is true, we just don't know what it was and why, i've never believed in chemtrails but it does make you think what techology there is and how it's been capable of making people sick, accidentally or not..

Unfortunately the government has less than a stellar track record when it comes to admitting responsibility. Let's just take politics out of this. It doesn't matter who the president is or which party has the White House and in many cases one or both houses of Congress. Government non-transparency is not a partisan issue--most everyone does it.

Stonewalling seems to be the norm. It's institutional and, in my not-expert opinion as a voter who pays attention, in many cases designed to avoid one of several things:

* looking bad
* revealing classified info
* admitting fault that could open them up to all kinds of trouble

Betty Cash and Vicki Landrum didn't want to be whistleblowers. They just wanted an explanation for what was happening to them. The government took responsibility because someone decided to do the right thing, but then someone else, probably higher up, said no.

Was it a UFO? I don't know. But unfortunately neither do these three people whose lives were changed forever.

I am watching Season 5, Episode 16 with the 1991 Carleton, Ontario UFO sighting. The woman that saw the UFO seemed credible. Also, there was a videotape sent by someone named "Guardian". Now, "Guardian" damaged his/her credibility by enclosing Canadian government documents that turned out to be bogus. But the tape was accurate and verified. Has anything ever been discovered about "Guardian"?