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TheCafeDisco 06-20-2014, 10:08 AM What's your vote for the silliest/cheesiest episode?
A few that come to mind:
-The Gold Leaf Lady
-The "Haunted" house where there was a severely overweight guy and his 16 year old bride that kept seeing a ghost. Yikes! That one was full of laughs!
But today I saw an episode online I never remembered seeing. Two boys showed their parents a large rock in the woods with markings on it. At one point one of the boys says "Maybe martians made the markings!" The family claimed that they rock was good luck and their business took off after that. :lol: This one wins for me as the cheesiest, silliest episode UM has ever put forth.
justins5256 06-20-2014, 01:43 PM Even though I haven't watched it in years, to me, this distinction will forever be the chocolate aphrodisiacs episode.
Robert Stack, Jr. 06-20-2014, 01:50 PM My vote would be for the Circleville Letters. I first saw this at 15 and was sufficiently creeped out, but watching it now at 24 it seems incredibly cheesy and unintentionally funny. The 90s sound effects and the overdramatic bad acting almost makes the segment feel like a parody when watched today. The clincher is the voiceover reading the letter Paul received in prison...the over-the-top hammy-ness of the reader's tone is flat-out comical.
"The joke...is...on...YOOOUUU. Ha...ha." Classic!!
MegtheEgg86 06-20-2014, 02:08 PM The clincher is the voiceover reading the letter Paul received in prison...the over-the-top hammy-ness of the reader's tone is flat-out comical.
"The joke...is...on...YOOOUUU. Ha...ha." Classic!!
Yes! :lol:
My vote would be the tiny "healing UFO" that a woman claimed flew into her bedroom and cured her of cancer.
SPD Yellow 06-20-2014, 03:06 PM I have to give it to the Magic Rock and Gold Foil Lady.
TheCafeDisco 06-20-2014, 04:40 PM Even though I haven't watched it in years, to me, this distinction will forever be the chocolate aphrodisiacs episode.
Wow I totally forgot about the aphrodisiac episode! Was there a point to that?
I have another one.
How about the message in the bottle segment? I know you all loved that one! :lol:
Corkys-Place 06-20-2014, 06:46 PM I know I've said this before but I'll say it again.
Dumbest Episode:
Idiot Girls dancing around in the Forest claiming to see magical light shining through the trees! :lol:
cordwainer1453 06-20-2014, 06:48 PM The Minor League baseball player
cordwainer1453 06-20-2014, 06:52 PM I know I've said this before but I'll say it again.
Dumbest Episode:
Idiot Girls dancing around in the Forest claiming to see magical light shining through the trees! :lol:
I think that one is sort of like the gold foil lady in that it gets a lot of criticism because they spent half the segment debunking it. They didn't usually do that, they mostly presented these type of things as the truth.
Victoria81 06-20-2014, 09:00 PM Fat man with wondering eye and his 16 yr old wife and their ghost.
Gold foil lady
Wackers reinactment and the real Wackers. Although, I believe them. I think some teenage grandson or something did this. Damn kooks.
WishfulDreamer 06-21-2014, 01:36 AM I agree with aphrodisiacs. We see some guy complaining about how things in his personal life aren't going well because of 18 hour days. Then maybe stop working 18 days if possible? He eats a bunch of aphrodisiacs, goes home, gives them to his girlfriend and things get steamy. Why is it on unsolved mysteries?! It was like watching a lifetime movie. "Aphrodisiacs are the answer to my personal problems!"
It's a hilarious episode though, plus we hear RS say some things he never would at any other time.
"Just one look at the succulent oysters provokes thoughts of sex..." :lol:
TheCars1986 06-21-2014, 08:55 AM The episode about the Jesus statue that allegedly had it's eyes opened. It was so obvious when they did a side by side comparison that the statue's eyes were always slightly open, and I'm amazed that UM even did a story on it.
TracyLynnS 06-21-2014, 12:46 PM All of the above and....
The Fertility Statues
Where, mysteriously, a bunch of sexually active young women who looked at, touched, walked past, thought about, heard about, or avoided the statues all ended up pregnant.
UMFaninMD 06-21-2014, 11:42 PM All of the above and....
The Fertility Statues
Where, mysteriously, a bunch of sexually active young women who looked at, touched, walked past, thought about, heard about, or avoided the statues all ended up pregnant.
That was so goofy. I couldn't believe they even did a story on it.
Almost all the ones mentioned get my vote, but to this day The Wackers and the Circleville Letters still creep me out.
Dr Will Hatch 06-22-2014, 03:09 AM My vote would be for the Circleville Letters. I first saw this at 15 and was sufficiently creeped out, but watching it now at 24 it seems incredibly cheesy and unintentionally funny. The 90s sound effects and the overdramatic bad acting almost makes the segment feel like a parody when watched today. The clincher is the voiceover reading the letter Paul received in prison...the over-the-top hammy-ness of the reader's tone is flat-out comical.
"The joke...is...on...YOOOUUU. Ha...ha." Classic!!
I couldn't disagree more. That's still one of the creepiest voices I've ever heard.
I think the "I used to be affected by this one thing, but now that I'm older, such and such is in retrospect really cheesy and fake" snark trend is annoying and only used to make the writer seem smarter than the people they're mocking.
MegtheEgg86 06-22-2014, 10:41 AM I couldn't disagree more. That's still one of the creepiest voices I've ever heard.
I think the "I used to be affected by this one thing, but now that I'm older, such and such is in retrospect really cheesy and fake" snark trend is annoying and only used to make the writer seem smarter than the people they're mocking.
Oh lighten up, homey. No one's mocking anybody.
I actually thought presenting the letter by itself sans voiceover was at least 20 times scarier than just hearing someone read it, though.
Robert Stack, Jr. 06-22-2014, 01:57 PM I couldn't disagree more. That's still one of the creepiest voices I've ever heard.
I think the "I used to be affected by this one thing, but now that I'm older, such and such is in retrospect really cheesy and fake" snark trend is annoying and only used to make the writer seem smarter than the people they're mocking.
Well, Dr Will Hatch, you're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. It's fine and dandy if it still creeps you out, but I personally find a couple things about the segment a little...overdramatic.
For one, Stack explaining with a straight face that the affair only started AFTER the letters were coming out was pretty funny. You have to admit that was a pretty lame lie. Secondly, the actor who played Ron was pretty amateurish to say the least, and it was a bit laugh-inducing when he tripped on his way down the stairs. And yes, the letter-reader was just a bit over the top. It seemed like he was TRYING to sound extra creepy and scary, where in essence the content of the letter and the music would have been creepy enough had he just read it in a normal tone.
I don't consider myself a snarker of things UM...quite the opposite. I still love the show and most segments still creep me out, but I'm afraid Circleville just doesn't do it for me anymore. I would apologize for that, but I find no sin or crime in finding a particular segment to be cheesy. Just an opinion, pallie.
isotope 06-22-2014, 11:35 PM I LOVE the episode with the fat guy and his child bride being haunted - utterly hilarious,:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You can tell the production crew would have had a ball making it, and Stack himself gets in on the fun (after the couple puts salt around their house, he magnificently deadpans "many snails were sacrificed").
Other than the "Ha. Ha. Ha." voiceover, I don't think there's anything silly about the Circleville case - genuinely one of the oddest and most unsettling segments UM have ever featured.
My own nomination for silliest segments are two examples of UM at its absolute worst, where it attempts to create a story where none exists.
Firstly, the "was Kurt Cobain murdered" story. Cobain was actively suicidal in the months up to his death, was behaving in an incredibly self-destructive manner in the months up to his death, made a suicide attempt 4 weeks prior to his death and had a long term obsession with firearms. Move along, nothing to see here.
Secondly, the "Were the Unabomber and the Zodiac Killer the same person"?" segment - based on the "incredible" coincidence that Ted Kacszinsky (Sp.) was in California about the same time as the Zodiac killings. Along with millions of other people. Nothing else whatsoever to link the two.
WishfulDreamer 06-22-2014, 11:56 PM I LOVE the episode with the fat guy and his child bride being haunted - utterly hilarious,:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You can tell the production crew would have had a ball making it, and Stack himself gets in on the fun (after the couple puts salt around their house, he magnificently deadpans "many snails were sacrificed").
I would pay to see/hear Robert Stack and segment bloopers. They would be a treasure trove of endless amusement, particularly during this episode.
Other than the "Ha. Ha. Ha." voiceover, I don't think there's anything silly about the Circleville case - genuinely one of the oddest and most unsettling segments UM have ever featured.
I pretty much agree. The death of Mr. Gillespie and the letters sent while Paul Freshour sat in jail still send shivers up my spine when I watch.
Secondly, the "Were the Unabomber and the Zodiac Killer the same person"?" segment - based on the "incredible" coincidence that Ted Kacszinsky (Sp.) was in California about the same time as the Zodiac killings. Along with millions of other people. Nothing else whatsoever to link the two.
I think the only merit of this episode was that they profiled Zodiac, which they hadn't done before. I agree with the guy interviewed: Interesting theory, but definitely doesn't seem to be on the money. Though it is interesting to note that Z said he would make explosives, I agree that there is pretty much nothing to link them.
TheCars1986 06-23-2014, 09:13 AM The gold flake lady was another waste of a segment, IMO. She didn't even use her real name, what's that tell you?
Necco 06-23-2014, 09:15 AM Firstly, the "was Kurt Cobain murdered" story. Cobain was actively suicidal in the months up to his death, was behaving in an incredibly self-destructive manner in the months up to his death, made a suicide attempt 4 weeks prior to his death and had a long term obsession with firearms. Move along, nothing to see here.
Respectfully snipped.
Actually, the Rome incident (which I think is what you are alluding to as the previous suicide attempt) was never discussed as an attempt until AFTER Kurt was found dead. What actually happened according to the book and other research I've read is that he had ordered some champagne from room service to celebrate Courtney joining him on tour and the combination with what he was taking lead to a medical emergency due to drug/alcohol interaction.
There are a LOT of unanswered questions in the Kurt Cobain case. Who tried to use his credit card days after is now known to have been dead? The PI Courtney hired was publicly accusing her of being involved and yet Courtney kept paying him. Many of Kurt's friends, including Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore, have publicly said it wasn't suicide and it wasn't how he would have gone out if he did commit suicide.
Kurt was allegedly in the process of making a new will and contemplating divorce from Courtney at the time of his death.
And then there are the peripheral deaths of Kristen Pfaff and El Duce.
While I'm not sure there's enough evidence to prove he was murdered in a court of law, there are certainly enough questions to reopen the case.
Victoria81 06-25-2014, 12:13 PM The Cobain case intrigued me with the credit card use as well. UNLESS, he just threw it out in a "**** it" moment. Some teen uses it or whatever and the cigarette there that Cobain did not smoke? Could have been there by previously guest...I don't know...
isotope 06-25-2014, 09:31 PM The Cobain case intrigued me with the credit card use as well. UNLESS, he just threw it out in a "**** it" moment. Some teen uses it or whatever and the cigarette there that Cobain did not smoke? Could have been there by previously guest...I don't know...
There's no mystery to it - unless you think a professional hitman hired by Courtney Love would be so careless as to use a credit card of the victim's ( or deliberately leave some Riddler like clue for amateur sleuths to seize on!)
Cobain was buying and using an enormous amount of heroin in the last few weeks of his life. He would have used his credit card to withdraw cash and he could have given the card to a dealer to withdraw cash; or a dealer or addict could have stolen it from him. Those involved in the drug business don't tend to be models of honesty or integrity.
If Courtney killed him, she wouldn't have hired a PI to investigate his disappearance
If she wanted him dead, she wouldn't have called an ambulance when she found him OD'ing in a Rome Hotel Room in 1994, nor would she have called the Seattle cops when he locked himself in their bathroom with a gun threatening to kill himself in 1993.
Cobain's bandmates (who detest Courtney) have maintained from the get go that it was a suicide, as have his manager, his close friends Everett True and Dylan Carson, and as has the Seattle Coronor, the homocide detectives assigned to the case, and everyone except Tom Grant and a few attention seeking journalists.
Every very famous person who dies young generates a host of conspiracy theories that their deaths "weren't what they appeared to be" (Marilyn Monroe, Elvis, John Lennon, Princess Diana, Michael Jackson etc..) Cobain is no different. But there's nothing here. Truly.
Necco 06-25-2014, 11:14 PM There's no mystery to it - unless you think a professional hitman hired by Courtney Love would be so careless as to use a credit card of the victim's ( or deliberately leave some Riddler like clue for amateur sleuths to seize on!)
Cobain was buying and using an enormous amount of heroin in the last few weeks of his life. He would have used his credit card to withdraw cash and he could have given the card to a dealer to withdraw cash; or a dealer or addict could have stolen it from him. Those involved in the drug business don't tend to be models of honesty or integrity.
If Courtney killed him, she wouldn't have hired a PI to investigate his disappearance
If she wanted him dead, she wouldn't have called an ambulance when she found him OD'ing in a Rome Hotel Room in 1994, nor would she have called the Seattle cops when he locked himself in their bathroom with a gun threatening to kill himself in 1993.
Cobain's bandmates (who detest Courtney) have maintained from the get go that it was a suicide, as have his manager, his close friends Everett True and Dylan Carson, and as has the Seattle Coronor, the homocide detectives assigned to the case, and everyone except Tom Grant and a few attention seeking journalists.
Every very famous person who dies young generates a host of conspiracy theories that their deaths "weren't what they appeared to be" (Marilyn Monroe, Elvis, John Lennon, Princess Diana, Michael Jackson etc..) Cobain is no different. But there's nothing here. Truly.
I respectfully disagree. And for the record, I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but I immediately thought Kurt's death was suspicious as soon as the news broke.
The Rome incident was never listed as a suicide attempt until after Kurt died. Even the doctor says it wasn't.
The 1993 incident has also been depicted as Kurt locking himself away from Courtney who was on a tear. Him dying in Rome wouldn't have coincided with the release of her record. It wouldn't have made her a victim, it would have made her an accomplice to just another ODed 27 year old rock star.
She deliberately mislead the PI and kept him on the payroll even AFTER she knew he thought she had Kurt killed.
Other friends, such as Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore, believe he didn't kill himself. Exes of Courtney tell tales of her threats and violence.
She was obsessed with Sid Vicious and Nancy Spungen.
Kristen Pfaff's mother has indicated she doesn't accept the official story of Kristen's death. She wouldn't let anyone from Hole attend Kristen's funeral.
At the very least, CL is a manipulative sociopath who cares little about anyone but herself, including her daughter. At the most, she's responsible for at least 3 deaths, Kurt's, El Duce's and Kristen Pfaff's.
isotope 06-26-2014, 02:04 AM I respectfully disagree. And for the record, I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but I immediately thought Kurt's death was suspicious as soon as the news broke.
The Rome incident was never listed as a suicide attempt until after Kurt died. Even the doctor says it wasn't.
I remember the incident when it happened. His record company tried to cover it up and portray it as an accident for publicity purposes, but his manager is now of the view it was a suicide attempt. (the Doctor says it "may" have been an accident.) Interviews of the period suggest Cobain was certainly deeply depressed at the time
The 1993 incident has also been depicted as Kurt locking himself away from Courtney who was on a tear.
The police removed guns from the house and given the presence of Francis Bean, the matter was referred to Washington State Child Care Services
Him dying in Rome wouldn't have coincided with the release of her record. It wouldn't have made her a victim, it would have made her an accomplice to just another ODed 27 year old rock star.
Respectfully, that is absurd, offensive conjecture, made without the slightest scrap of evidence. Cobain's death overshadowed the promotional focus that would have otherwise been on "Live Through This" and prevented Hole from immediately touring to support it.
She deliberately mislead the PI and kept him on the payroll even AFTER she knew he thought she had Kurt killed.
But you avoided my earlier question - why on earth would she hire a PI, if she organised his assassination?
Other friends, such as Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore, believe he didn't kill himself..
They made this claim in one 2005 interview. They also acknowledged in the same interview that they barely saw him in the last 18 months of his life. People who saw him nearly every day during this time (his bandmates, his management, Everett True, relatives) all say that he killed himself. His friend Dylan Carson - one of the last people to see Kurt, and the person who lent him the rifle he used to kill himself - says that he believes Cobain committed suicide. Again, many of these people loathed Courtney and have no reason to lie on her behalf.
Exes of Courtney tell tales of her threats and violence...
No doubt Courtney was a pretty wild personality, but its a long way from that to being a murderer.
She was obsessed with Sid Vicious and Nancy Spungen.
And? Plenty of people are obsessed with Elvis. This doesn't cause them to shoot TVs and abuse prescription drugs.
Kristen Pfaff's mother has indicated she doesn't accept the official story of Kristen's death. .
As a UM fan, you'd know that plenty of parents refuse to accept deaths by suicide or accident. People have a great deal of difficulty in accepting that young lives can end in such a stupid or pointless manner.
Pfaff died of a heroin overdose - practically an occupational hazard for grunge musicians back in the 90s. All of Courtneys other fellow band members and industry associates of the time are still alive and well.
At the very least, CL is a manipulative sociopath who cares little about anyone but herself, including her daughter. At the most, she's responsible for at least 3 deaths, Kurt's, El Duce's and Kristen Pfaff's..
Courtney is a pretty difficult and polarising figure, no doubt, but that's a bit out of line. Kurt and Pfaff are responsible for their own deaths. El Duce was probably legally insane, so he's not necessarily responsible for his own actions.
Necco 06-26-2014, 07:23 AM isotope,
Yes, I've said some pretty harsh thinks about CL. I stand by them. I honestly believe she is a clinical sociopath, whether she has a body count or not. I've seen compelling arguments on both sides of this debate. I chose to stand on the side of further investigation should have taken place. You chose to stand on the other side. That's the beauty of these boards. If we agreed, there would be nothing to debate. I shall respectfully disagree with you and leave it at that.
-necco
Oh, and to address the question of the PI you asked me about, I think she hired him to look concerned. She deliberately mislead him and strung him along for ages.
SPD Yellow 06-26-2014, 06:24 PM Guys, can we stay on topic and leave the Kurt Cobain stuff for another thread?
Back to thread, anyone know what the gold foil lady is up to these days? Call it morbid curiosity.
MegtheEgg86 06-26-2014, 07:56 PM anyone know what the gold foil lady is up to these days? Call it morbid curiosity.
I want to say that the same "parapsychologist" involved in the Tina Resch case actually published some sort of paper on "Katie", the gold foil lady. It's been years since I've seen it, though. As for Katie herself, I'm unsure. Didn't she live in Georgia at the time the segment was filmed?
isotope 06-26-2014, 11:50 PM Alright, no more Cobain - promise :)
One that springs to mind is part of the Tallman's Ghost episode.
when the guy wakes up in his bed, sits bolt upright and shrieks, I always found myself chuckling
Necco 06-27-2014, 11:28 AM Alright, no more Cobain - promise :)
One that springs to mind is part of the Tallman's Ghost episode.
when the guy wakes up in his bed, sits bolt upright and shrieks, I always found myself chuckling
Now, see, I found this segment to be compelling and believable.
HAHAHAHA. Just kidding. I couldn't resist. This was silly.
I also was always confused by the segments that couldn't be solved. It's not like God was going to call the telecenter and explain why no one from the choir was at the church when it exploded.
TheCars1986 06-27-2014, 11:54 AM I also was always confused by the segments that couldn't be solved. It's not like God was going to call the telecenter and explain why no one from the choir was at the church when it exploded.
Well he can't call now since the telecenter number has been discontinued.
TheCafeDisco 06-27-2014, 12:04 PM The mystery hum was interesting, no doubt about that, but when you think of it, I mean really think of it, it's an episode on how some people hear something that no one else can. Kinda silly.
I'll put the spontaneous human combustion one on here too. very enjoyable to watch. In fact the old man that went up in flames scared the heck out of me when I was young, but none the less silly. Just not so much as the magic rock or the message in a bottle.
tamanshud 06-27-2014, 12:07 PM That guy who lived in he same city as his "twin" but none of the people who knew both of them could put them in touch so he had to go on national TV.
Victoria81 05-12-2015, 01:40 PM That guy who lived in he same city as his "twin" but none of the people who knew both of them could put them in touch so he had to go on national TV.
LOL, yes:lol: so sad though that he passed away before he could find his twin. That was like the smallest town and they couldn't be in the same area together. Like, the Earth would burst if so.
mozartpc27 05-13-2015, 03:15 PM UM did a lot of dumb stuff, but there is something about that magic rock segment... perhaps it's the quote in my sig, which gets me every time.
Nyarlathotep 05-13-2015, 07:41 PM Well I was a very gullible child so many episodes that in retrospect are ludicrous (ghostly hitch-hikers, spontaneous combustion, past lives etc) seemed completely plausible to me back in the 80s. I guess UM in conjunction with those timelife books on the unexplained primed me perfectly to become an X-Files fan in my teen/adult years! But there is one segment I found quite ridiculous even as a kid. It was the clip about some mysterious stranger who appeared at a church to build a magnificent spiral staircase. The nuns had no idea who this fellow was and there were suggestions the technology used was so marvelous the builder may even have been a spiritual entity such as an angel. I thought it was silly since there were so many tradespeople (and religious people) in my family My first thoughts were either 1) a religious tradesperson who wanted to remain anonymous 2) the nuns were not going to socialize with macho guys like the kinds who might wander about the country depending on their carpentry skills so of course no one would recall the fellow 3) a lot of people look down on transient tradespersons even in modern times, even highly skilled ones (I can't imagine how much worse it would be in the 1800s), so maybe no one cared to learn about him and after the fact they felt bad because his work was so nice... Now that I am much older I also believe that talking about mysterious happenings and emphasizing the beautiful elements of one's church is a great way to draw visitors and newcomers.
In keeping with the religious talk I had a good laugh out of mozartpc27's reference to their signature line "You can't say the words that the rock makes you feel like"... I have been mainly a daily lurker for ages and frequently saw the signature. But I assumed it was some kind of evangelical Christian reference (because so many refer to Jesus as their rock)... Hilarious to realize the deep words of "spiritual wisdom" came from that magic rock segment... Which I completely erased from my memory. Speaking of that, I think it was just well off people who wanted to be on TV and had to come up with something to catch the viewers attention.
GeekBoyGreg 05-13-2015, 08:54 PM I'll never forget the one segment where people would gather around a tree and see images of the Virgin Mary. My favorite part of this was that someone took a Polaroid of the tree which had "messages from heaven" in the image, which turned out to be nothing more than directions on the film cartridge superimposed over the image.
These types of stories always make me cringe at the gullibility of certain people, and ever thankful that survival of the fittest ultimately wins in the end!
James T 05-14-2015, 02:56 AM Magic Rock, Rainboy, Aphrodisiacs, Woman who had objects coming out of her eyes, Fat guy getting attacked by a sex crazed ghost who had taken over his wife's body, Exploding Church & the School hostage situation where the bomb went off.
LooksLikeCRicci 05-14-2015, 11:21 AM I LOVESecondly, the "Were the Unabomber and the Zodiac Killer the same person"?" segment - based on the "incredible" coincidence that Ted Kacszinsky (Sp.) was in California about the same time as the Zodiac killings. Along with millions of other people. Nothing else whatsoever to link the two.
I actually thought that was a pretty interesting segment, to be honest. I agree that there's not much to tie the Unabomber to the Zodiac killings other than the location of both killers...
BUT...
I thought the relation of cryptograms to mathematics was interesting, although I don't agree with UM that cryptograms are the "games of mathemaicians." I hate math, but I really like cryptograms and don't see how they are related. Maybe if I understood the relation, I would be better at them. :)
I found the whole comment he made to the lone survivor of one of the attacks interesting, "I'm an escaped convict from Deer Lodge, Montana." Being FROM Montana and having ties to Deer Lodge specifically, I can tell you that while it may not be significant, it is certainly unusual. Deer Lodge IS a very small town. The main source of employment in Deer Lodge is through the Department of Corrections because the main state prison is located there. In the middle of pretty much nowhere. There are lots of reasons WHY the Zodiac may have known about Deer Lodge that are completely unrelated to Ted K., but it's still pretty interesting.
So, yeah. I enjoyed that segment.
One that I don't think anyone has mentioned before is the astrology segment where the date/time of someone's birth could potentially dictate if they would be a serial killer. I know someone did a blind examination of the charts of Richard Ramirez (the Night Stalker), Jeffrey Dahmer, and I *THINK* David Berkowitz (Son of Sam) and they were commenting on how violent these people would have been... I thought that was a waste of good segment time.
It was a feel-good segment, but I also thought "Money from the sky" was kinda silly. :)
dynoguy88 05-14-2015, 12:13 PM UM did a lot of dumb stuff, but there is something about that magic rock segment... perhaps it's the quote in my sig, which gets me every time.
10 year old me will always love the magic rock segment.
But me at any age will never see the point of the fertility statues segment.
Nickolas086 05-14-2015, 12:25 PM The old couple who claimed their house was haunted by a ghost. From seeing a man walking past a room she was in and the little bell ringing in the room she was sleeping in her husband heard from downstairs.
wiseguy182 05-14-2015, 02:18 PM The old couple who claimed their house was haunted by a ghost. From seeing a man walking past a room she was in and the little bell ringing in the room she was sleeping in her husband heard from downstairs.
I was so waiting for the moment when Jim would get fed up with the bell and smash it so smithereens, but it never happened.
SPD Yellow 05-14-2015, 07:14 PM Regarding the Unabomber/Zodiac Killer segment, I know it's conclusions are faulty, but it was pretty cool in that I'd never heard of the Zodiac Killer up till that point. So I let it off the hook for teaching me something new.
WishfulDreamer 05-14-2015, 09:44 PM The Bible Code. I thought it was interesting as a kid, but using a computer skip function you could find all sorts of similar things in any book. I agree with the skeptic guy (who was easily the best part of the segment). "Wait a minute, you can't say 'the end will come, the end might not come, the end might be delayed for a while...' You've now made all possible predictions, which is no prediction at all."
amandab1234 06-07-2015, 02:05 AM I just saw this one and it was one of the dumbest episodes....(next to the fertility statues)... the therapeutic touch episode
wiseguy182 06-07-2015, 02:14 AM I just saw this one and it was one of the dumbest episodes....(next to the fertility statues)... the therapeutic touch episode
Lifetime used to play the BEEJEZUS out of that one.
amandab1234 06-08-2015, 02:52 AM The episode about the Jesus statue that allegedly had it's eyes opened. It was so obvious when they did a side by side comparison that the statue's eyes were always slightly open, and I'm amazed that UM even did a story on it.
Yesssss!!!! I hate putting any type of judgement on this since I'm an atheist & even the artist who restored the crucifix got emotional. I didn't see the difference at all.. :/
amandab1234 06-09-2015, 02:10 AM Just saw another one that is silly. Anastacia.. It's an interesting story but it's amusing that at the end the old lady who claimed to be her, really wasnt...
SPD Yellow 06-09-2015, 07:20 PM What is interesting is how far she managed to play the Anastasia card. I don't think she started out as a con artist--I think she really had legitimate mental problems and may have latched onto the Anastasia bit, both because she genuinely believed herself to be Anastasia and because it enabled her to eke out a more comfortable existence than she would have otherwise. It's one of those cases that would have been solved pretty quickly if it happened today, given that you can pick up DNA tests at Walgreens.
What's really silly is that there are people who will still defend Anna Anderson, despite the mountains of evidence (including DNA) that proves she isn't Anastasia Romanov.
But you kind of understand. Lenin admitted to killing Czar Nicholas II and the Czarina, but he was kind of coy regarding the fate of his children. Lenin may have been one of the great *******s of history (who only looks good if you compare him to Stalin), but he knew however angry people were at the Czar and his wife, people would still blanch at killing their kids. And given that the communist regime was still struggling to gain its footing and the support of other nations, you understand why Lenin kept quiet.
Of course, this led to a lot of people, Anna Anderson being the most famous of the impostors, coming forward and claiming to be one of the Grand Duchesses or the Tsarevich.
But yeah, the Russian Revolution...such a sad story. Everyone was all "Yeah, Russia is free from the tyrannical rule of Czars" but it all lead to an even worse tyranny down the road, which seems to be a sadly common outcome when it comes to Revolutions.
Thiussat 06-09-2015, 08:17 PM The person who cries golden tears has to be the dumbest episode ever. It and the fertility statue are neck and neck.
UMFaninMD 06-09-2015, 08:22 PM I just saw this one and it was one of the dumbest episodes....(next to the fertility statues)... the therapeutic touch episode
I saw it last week again, the first time I watched it was when it aired live. Even then I thought it was a little bit sketchy. Now it just looks like they're doing the Vogue.
DALLASTEXAN!! 06-09-2015, 09:36 PM I always laughed at the argentine artist that drew so wrecklessly. I hope I have the nationality correct? Maybe this fits in the unintentionally funny reenactment thread but I just remembered it.
DazzlerSparkler 06-17-2015, 03:24 AM Wonder what would happen if the Golden Tears lady got peed on? Then it would mean she cried golden tears while receving a golden shower! Ew.
My headcanon is that she got a little too obsessed with the King Midas story and the cartoon Mysterious Cities of Gold.
But seriously though, how could ANYONE believe her. But then again people can really be gullible, as the Rachel Dolezal case has proven.
Omg imagine the controversy if UM did a segment on that!
cordwainer1453 06-17-2015, 02:29 PM The thing with the Dolezal case is that if you say you are black, nobody is going to question it. Have you ever said to someone "are you a real black person?"
wiseguy182 06-17-2015, 11:42 PM I thought the Coral Polge segment was beyond ridiculous. I'm sure if I drew some random person, it would vaguely look like any of the billions of people who have existed in the last century or so.
amandab1234 06-18-2015, 01:35 AM The story about the elderly couple in Florida who helped a homeless man who came to their door asking for food/work. Then they started receiving checks in the mail every Christmas. I mean I love that story but it is a bit silly if you think about it. Especially for UM but it is a comfort segment and it makes my heart feel all warm and fuzzy! Lol
BobStack4ever 06-18-2015, 06:15 PM The spiral staircase built by the "mysterious carpenter," complete with a score that could have been used in Ben Hur. Cheeesssy!
WishfulDreamer 06-18-2015, 08:59 PM The story about the elderly couple in Florida who helped a homeless man who came to their door asking for food/work. Then they started receiving checks in the mail every Christmas. I mean I love that story but it is a bit silly if you think about it. Especially for UM but it is a comfort segment and it makes my heart feel all warm and fuzzy! Lol
I love it, too, but there are some cheesy parts to it.
Like the guy at the bank who inspects the check. "Good as gold, Russ, how would you like it?" LOL.
BobStack4ever 06-18-2015, 09:21 PM Lol. Just put it in the checking account!
James T 06-19-2015, 02:26 AM I love it, too, but there are some cheesy parts to it.
Like the guy at the bank who inspects the check. "Good as gold, Russ, how would you like it?" LOL.
I am pretty sure UM used a lot of artistic licence on their segments.:)
wiseguy182 06-19-2015, 02:27 AM I love it, too, but there are some cheesy parts to it.
Like the guy at the bank who inspects the check. "Good as gold, Russ, how would you like it?" LOL.
I always thought that was odd too. I used to work as a cashier and in the cash office of a supermarket in the late 90's/early 2000's, when checks were still a common form of payment. The cashiers had to run checks through something called "MICR" to tell if the check was good or not. In the few cases it wasn't, they had to ask for an alternate form of payment. But nobody could tell a check was good just by looking at it for a second.
LooksLikeCRicci 06-19-2015, 02:13 PM The spiral staircase built by the "mysterious carpenter," complete with a score that could have been used in Ben Hur. Cheeesssy!
I totally forgot about Jesus building the perfect staircase!
Totally cheesy, but I actually really liked that segment. :)
MegtheEgg86 06-19-2015, 03:02 PM I always laughed at the argentine artist that drew so wrecklessly. I hope I have the nationality correct? Maybe this fits in the unintentionally funny reenactment thread but I just remembered it.
That one always makes me laugh too. He looks like he's doing seated interpretive dance.
WishfulDreamer 06-19-2015, 09:24 PM I am pretty sure UM used a lot of artistic licence on their segments.:)
Hahaha, I'm sure.
I always thought that was odd too. I used to work as a cashier and in the cash office of a supermarket in the late 90's/early 2000's, when checks were still a common form of payment. The cashiers had to run checks through something called "MICR" to tell if the check was good or not. In the few cases it wasn't, they had to ask for an alternate form of payment. But nobody could tell a check was good just by looking at it for a second.
I've never worked with checks, but I had a feeling the segment depicted it in a silly way. Even if it was "good as gold" and legitimate how would you know 100% that it wouldn't bounce or something, too?
wiseguy182 06-23-2015, 02:08 PM "Mystery Hum" was quite stupid. UM made a big deal that 1,000 people across the world could hear the hum, glossing over the fact that the rest of the 7 billion people on Planet Earth can't hear a damn thing. Probably just people with hearing problems or people using vibrators or passing gas.
Sucked.
The only redeeming quality of the entire segment was hearing Stack's pronunciation of "The Hum."
James T 06-23-2015, 04:14 PM "Mystery Hum" was quite stupid. UM made a big deal that 1,000 people across the world could hear the hum, glossing over the fact that the rest of the 7 billion people on Planet Earth can't hear a damn thing. Probably just people with hearing problems or people using vibrators or passing gas.
Sucked.
The only redeeming quality of the entire segment was hearing Stack's pronunciation of "The Hum."
It seems to be picking up in popularity-that was dubbed the Taos hum but there have been many others since then-very recently people are hearing trumpet sounds.
wiseguy182 06-23-2015, 05:06 PM It seems to be picking up in popularity-that was dubbed the Taos hum but there have been many others since then-very recently people are hearing trumpet sounds.
A rebellious group of trumpet-blowers out there annoying people? Pass.
MegtheEgg86 06-23-2015, 09:24 PM Oh, I've heard of the trumpet thing, too. I remember there was this poster going around on all of these "Hum" forums and such many years ago making these all-caps posts about the "trumpet" being that of the angel Gabriel signaling the beginning of the end times. I figured it was the same guy because the posts were pretty much identical in style and content.
James T 06-24-2015, 03:02 AM Oh, I've heard of the trumpet thing, too. I remember there was this poster going around on all of these "Hum" forums and such many years ago making these all-caps posts about the "trumpet" being that of the angel Gabriel signaling the beginning of the end times. I figured it was the same guy because the posts were pretty much identical in style and content.
Oh dear-I guess those religious zealots get everywhere. It would be interesting to find out exactly what this is though-it has been reported worldwide for about 25 years now. Is it purely a psychological phenomenon as people read about cases elsewhere? Is it military testing of some sort? Something happening underwater? Something to do with power company generators? This link shows it must have been going on since at least the early 1970's as there was something published on it in 1973.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hum
GeekBoyGreg 06-24-2015, 01:46 PM For me the goofiest segment would be the one where the guy supposedly removed tumors from people without using surgery. All he did was slight-of-hand tricks using chicken entrails. People can be so stupid sometimes!
DALLASTEXAN!! 06-24-2015, 02:23 PM For me the goofiest segment would be the one where the guy supposedly removed tumors from people without using surgery. All he did was slight-of-hand tricks using chicken entrails. People can be so stupid sometimes!
I feel sorry for those victims because they were really sick and desperate and those low life jerks just prey on them like the animals they are.
I think the cuandero that was featured was silly, but people do believe in that stuff. I passed through a side of town recently and saw a cuandero business. I've never known the ins and outs of those places, but as stack mentioned many of them are legitimate places and the people that commit fraud against others give a black eye to the whole aspect of a given industry. People use religion or personal beliefs against others to make money on a daily basis and it makes me a little sick inside so I don't have a problem with UM covering those stories as silly as they may be....also the Alamo case is right there too.
DALLASTEXAN!! 06-24-2015, 02:29 PM I totally forgot about Jesus building the perfect staircase!
Totally cheesy, but I actually really liked that segment. :)
You know I kind of feel the same way about this one. I always looked at it as wanting to find out who actually built it because it is a beautiful piece and they deserve recognition. I love New Mexico. It is probably the most underrated place I've ever visited, but I've never been to Santa Fe. If I do go there I would like to see that church.
DALLASTEXAN!! 06-24-2015, 02:32 PM That one always makes me laugh too. He looks like he's doing seated interpretive dance.
Haha I think I've only seen it once about 12 years ago but that dance is unforgettable
DazzlerSparkler 06-25-2015, 12:34 AM I'm going to hell for this one
The exorcism segment. I just remember Stack being all "THIS IS SERIOUS WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO WITNESS IS REAL AND MAY BE DISTURBING"
and then it opens with the woman going all "NO NO I DONT WANT YOUR PRAYERS!!!!"
I fell over laughing
DALLASTEXAN!! 06-25-2015, 12:53 AM I'm going to hell for this one
The exorcism segment. I just remember Stack being all "THIS IS SERIOUS WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO WITNESS IS REAL AND MAY BE DISTURBING"
and then it opens with the woman going all "NO NO I DONT WANT YOUR PRAYERS!!!!"
I fell over laughing
Oh snap I forgot about that segment!:lol:
LooksLikeCRicci 06-25-2015, 10:55 AM That was a good one. :)
James T 06-25-2015, 11:18 AM You know I kind of feel the same way about this one. I always looked at it as wanting to find out who actually built it because it is a beautiful piece and they deserve recognition. I love New Mexico. It is probably the most underrated place I've ever visited, but I've never been to Santa Fe. If I do go there I would like to see that church.
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/helix_to_heaven/
Hops3098 06-25-2015, 11:50 AM For me the goofiest segment would be the one where the guy supposedly removed tumors from people without using surgery. All he did was slight-of-hand tricks using chicken entrails. People can be so stupid sometimes!
I feel sorry for those victims because they were really sick and desperate and those low life jerks just prey on them like the animals they are.
I think the cuandero that was featured was silly, but people do believe in that stuff. I passed through a side of town recently and saw a cuandero business. I've never known the ins and outs of those places, but as stack mentioned many of them are legitimate places and the people that commit fraud against others give a black eye to the whole aspect of a given industry. People use religion or personal beliefs against others to make money on a daily basis and it makes me a little sick inside so I don't have a problem with UM covering those stories as silly as they may be....also the Alamo case is right there too.
I think you are actually confusing two different segments.
Gary Magno was the guy who had the fake faith healer scam going where he would pretend to pull tumors out of people. I believe he was from the Philippines.
Jorge Cortez was the phony Curandero that had ladies disrobe & he would rub an egg over their skin to pull out curses. The egg would be black when he cracked it open. He also would make money "appear" for accomplices in front of potential victims & steal their life savings.
I don't believe either person was ever captured. :cuss:
I know there are people on this board (and in general) that dismiss these kinds of cons as silly, but I think that's ignoring the religious context of both cases. Even though we might not share the same beliefs as those victims portrayed, I think they are at least deserving of our respect. We should focus on catching the criminals rather than shaming the victims.
DALLASTEXAN!! 06-25-2015, 12:09 PM I think you are actually confusing two different segments.
Gary Magno was the guy who had the fake faith healer scam going where he would pretend to pull tumors out of people. I believe he was from the Philippines.
Jorge Cortez was the phony Curandero that had ladies disrobe & he would rub an egg over their skin to pull out curses. The egg would be black when he cracked it open. He also would make money "appear" for accomplices in front of potential victims & steal their life savings.
I don't believe either person was ever captured. :cuss:
I know there are people on this board (and in general) that dismiss these kinds of cons as silly, but I think that's ignoring the religious context of both cases. Even though we might not share the same beliefs as those victims portrayed, I think they are at least deserving of our respect. We should focus on catching the criminals rather than shaming the victims.
Oh I knew they were different I may not have made that clear. I lived in Arizona when I first saw the healer scam it was kind of closed to where I lived IIRC. I mentioned the cuandero as well because it was a scam that took advantage of people's belief system as well as did tony Alamo. I agree I don't think it's silly for UM to show these at all and I think it helps people raise awareness of others and more importantly exposes fraud.
wiseguy182 06-27-2015, 03:14 AM Therapeutic Touch = STUPID!! I love how Stack says something to the effect of "T-Touch should only be done by a qualified professional." Yes, it takes lots of experience and an 8-year advanced college degree to wave your hands around someone. :rolleyes:
The mother of the boy with the cut-off finger was also stupid. I mean, his finger had been sliced off and he's bleeding profusely and instead of getting a towel or something, she just stands there flailing her arms about. Moron. And then later, she offers this absurd claim that the doctor told her to continue the T-Touch because it was keeping her son calm. Except he had been calm the entire time, even before informing his mother what happened. Heck, he didn't even know his finger had been cut off until he looked at it.
Asinine segment.
I did, however, get a kick out of the older nurse who referred to T-Touch as "baloney".
MegtheEgg86 06-27-2015, 10:36 AM Therapeutic Touch = STUPID!! I love how Stack says something to the effect of "T-Touch should only be done by a qualified professional." Yes, it takes lots of experience and an 8-year advanced college degree to wave your hands around someone. :rolleyes:
The mother of the boy with the cut-off finger was also stupid. I mean, his finger had been sliced off and he's bleeding profusely and instead of getting a towel or something, she just stands there flailing her arms about. Moron. And then later, she offers this absurd claim that the doctor told her to continue the T-Touch because it was keeping her son calm. Except he had been calm the entire time, even before informing his mother what happened. Heck, he didn't even know his finger had been cut off until he looked at it.
Asinine segment.
I did, however, get a kick out of the older nurse who referred to T-Touch as "baloney".
I'm currently completing nursing school, and therapeutic touch is often listed as an alternative or complementary therapy in our texts and references. Whenever I see it I always think of that nurse calling it "baloney". :p
If the patient insists it works and wants it done--cool, we can do that. But I'm not so sold personally.
DALLASTEXAN!! 06-27-2015, 11:58 AM Hahaha T-touch. :D. Suddenly I feel so juvenile.
MegtheEgg86 06-27-2015, 12:06 PM Hahaha T-touch. :D. Suddenly I feel so juvenile.
:rotflmao:
James T 06-27-2015, 01:42 PM I'm currently completing nursing school, and therapeutic touch is often listed as an alternative or complementary therapy in our texts and references. Whenever I see it I always think of that nurse calling it "baloney". :p
If the patient insists it works and wants it done--cool, we can do that. But I'm not so sold personally.
I class therapeutic touch as a happy ending massage. Seriously though that crap shouldn't even be taught at medical school-if people want that nonsense or any other 'new age treatment' there are thousands of places that do all that.
James T 06-27-2015, 01:56 PM Hahaha T-touch. :D. Suddenly I feel so juvenile.
http://i.imgur.com/UeCRP.gif
wiseguy182 07-03-2015, 11:31 PM I know it's been said numerous times before, but fertility statues. Now if they can impregnate a 70 year old man, then I'd really be impressed.
I don't know why they just didn't leave that story for Ripley's Believe It Or Not, it fit in much better with the tripe they usually offered. Believe It Or Not could have good segments occasionally and Dean Cain was a good enough host, but a good chunk of their segments were too gory and freakish.
James T 07-04-2015, 06:53 AM I know it's been said numerous times before, but fertility statues. Now if they can impregnate a 70 year old man, then I'd really be impressed.
I don't know why they just didn't leave that story for Ripley's Believe It Or Not, it fit in much better with the tripe they usually offered. Believe It Or Not could have good segments occasionally and Dean Cain was a good enough host, but a good chunk of their segments were too gory and freakish.
Every so often we get one of these inane stories all over our news about a fertility chair somewhere like a supermarket-all these women who have sat on it became pregnant with a year or so, or the wife of a guy that sat on it.
I am guessing there are just as many female workers who sit on it that don't get pregnant of course, but I am guessing that safe sex & lesbians don't really interest the hype that surrounds such things.
DazzlerSparkler 07-06-2015, 01:16 AM I know it's been said numerous times before, but fertility statues. Now if they can impregnate a 70 year old man, then I'd really be impressed.
I don't know why they just didn't leave that story for Ripley's Believe It Or Not, it fit in much better with the tripe they usually offered. Believe It Or Not could have good segments occasionally and Dean Cain was a good enough host, but a good chunk of their segments were too gory and freakish.
Well excuuuuuse me for buying one. I don't want no Hand that Rocks the Cradle situation lol
ThePAKid 07-08-2015, 07:14 PM The "Guardian" UFO case was so obviously faked & I often wondered why UM wasted their time with it. Sightings also ran a piece on it, so UM wasn't the only show fooled.
MegtheEgg86 07-08-2015, 10:16 PM Well excuuuuuse me for buying one. I don't want no Hand that Rocks the Cradle situation lol
:lol: YES.
That movie scared the crap out of me when I happened to catch it on TV at the ripe old age of 8. :eek:
DazzlerSparkler 07-08-2015, 11:27 PM :lol: YES.
That movie scared the crap out of me when I happened to catch it on TV at the ripe old age of 8. :eek:
It kind of surprises me there are no "murderous nannies/babysitters" cases
James T 07-09-2015, 03:02 PM The "Guardian" UFO case was so obviously faked & I often wondered why UM wasted their time with it. Sightings also ran a piece on it, so UM wasn't the only show fooled.
Sightings would run pretty much anything-from the episodes I saw Guardian was probably one of the more probable cases. UM itself had no problems running ludicrous segments. We have to remember like every show it is about ratings & silly stories sell-especially if they have great visuals.
LilMissKryssy 07-09-2015, 03:30 PM I remember in the UFO Unsolved DVD commentary, they said they had their crew out on a hill top and the guy being interviewed put on a hat made out of aluminum or something. He said the crew decided to leave and not film it because it became so absurd lol
ThePAKid 07-09-2015, 09:34 PM Sightings would run pretty much anything-from the episodes I saw Guardian was probably one of the more probable cases. UM itself had no problems running ludicrous segments. We have to remember like every show it is about ratings & silly stories sell-especially if they have great visuals.
True. The thing with the guardian case that threw up red flags, were the faked canadian government documents & the outrageous alien in a hoodie photo. I was out at that point.
wiseguy182 07-13-2015, 01:43 PM The Black Hope Curse segment.
Kirk007Anthony 07-13-2015, 06:09 PM That bozo "Psychic" I think Doreen? She did that re-enactment of what happened to that old couple that were murdered by her son's friends (I think) "What are YOU...DOING...HERE.... [Screams a name] I'm shot.....Im shot in the face.' [Hands covering face] And I cannot forget the "Wiener Brothers". Good god, Alcohol, Drugs and Gay Sex. Thats all that was. Nothing against gays btw.
Kirk007Anthony 07-13-2015, 06:13 PM Noreen sorry http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Noreen_Renier
Kirk007Anthony 07-13-2015, 06:18 PM Another one was that bicycle bandit dude. Robs banks then rolls off on a bike. Haven't seen it in years. Im pretty sure it was Unsolved Mysteries. Correctme if I am wrong.
Kirk007Anthony 07-13-2015, 06:25 PM One of the best lines of stupidity ever came from that Former Nasa Engineer Bob Oeschler, "If in fact the footage of the disk was real, WHY WOULD ANYONE, CONTAMINATE the footage with fake images of ALIEN BEINGS." ....Possibly because Bob.....The ENTIRE TAPE WAS FAKE! Geeeez I LOVE Paranormal Stories. 99.999999% is BS. As a kid I soaked them all up. And believed alot of them. Now, Not so much. But the stories are great.
Kirk007Anthony 07-13-2015, 06:26 PM http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Bicycle_Bandit
RightOnDude 07-13-2015, 09:09 PM http://i.imgur.com/UeCRP.gif
wow first the double Doinks and now a Lisa Ann boink; you're on a roll!
jjmcgr 07-15-2015, 04:33 PM I LOVE , the "Were the Unabomber and the Zodiac Killer the same person"?" segment - based on the "incredible" coincidence that Ted Kacszinsky (Sp.) was in California about the same time as the Zodiac killings. Along with millions of other people. Nothing else whatsoever to link the two.
I do not remember what the episode presented but there were many reasons to at least investigate the Unabomber as the Zodiac beyond them both being in the SF area at the same time.
-Both sent elaborate letters to the press preaching or taunting.
-Both were familiar with mathematical concepts
-Both killed strangers
-Unabomber threatened to "bomb" a school bus
-Both used elaborate disguises
To me the worst episode (I laugh when I watch it in reruns now so to me it is goofy) they continually play is the one with the Roswell mortician in which UM did absolutely no research... the mortician actually worked for the funeral home several years after the imaginary saucer crash; there was a big plane crash while he worked there which is probably what he remembered 40years later; there was no nurse with the name he gave although the name he gave was the combination of the names of two nurses; no nurse was transferred to england and killed in a car crash.
The USAF investigated the mortician's claims in far greater detail than UM.
James T 07-15-2015, 04:44 PM So did Kevin Randle who is a big Roswell proponent & he came to the same conclusion.
Kirk007Anthony 07-15-2015, 08:38 PM Roswell itself is one of the biggest lies and myths of the last hundred years. All it started out with was a misidentification. And then we're all left with people coming forward claiming "Alien Contact". Its been great for the town itself. Great tourist driver. But in reality. Glenn Dennis contacted Unsolved Mysteries after their first UFO segment on Roswell. Before the 2 hour special they did in the 90s. And just claim he was there. Since then there has been a whole lot of "witnesses" that have come forward. 99.999% are complete and outright liars. The valid witnesses never claimed to see alien bodies or anything like that. I spoke with Friedman, Randle, and Marcel Jr. Marcel Jr. was an amazing person. And he considered what he saw as an actual alien craft. I have an autographed copy of his book. As well as Randles and Friedman's. I disagree with Marcel Jr on what was seen. (Respectfully) Although I wasnt there. Marcel and Marcel Jr. are honest witnesses imo. Just mistaken. Great story. Believed it when I was younger. But when you critically think it out. Its BS.
Kirk007Anthony 07-15-2015, 08:40 PM Recommend Zodiac Unmasked by Robert Graysmith if youre interested. He covers his opinions on the matter. Fascinating
owenrock 07-15-2015, 08:47 PM Roswell itself is one of the biggest lies and myths of the last hundred years. All it started out with was a misidentification. And then we're all left with people coming forward claiming "Alien Contact". Its been great for the town itself. Great tourist driver. But in reality. Glenn Dennis contacted Unsolved Mysteries after their first UFO segment on Roswell. Before the 2 hour special they did in the 90s. And just claim he was there. Since then there has been a whole lot of "witnesses" that have come forward. 99.999% are complete and outright liars. The valid witnesses never claimed to see alien bodies or anything like that. I spoke with Friedman, Randle, and Marcel Jr. Marcel Jr. was an amazing person. And he considered what he saw as an actual alien craft. I have an autographed copy of his book. As well as Randles and Friedman's. I disagree with Marcel Jr on what was seen. (Respectfully) Although I wasnt there. Marcel and Marcel Jr. are honest witnesses imo. Just mistaken. Great story. Believed it when I was younger. But when you critically think it out. Its BS.
Why so quick to say it's B.S.? I totally believe that there is life outside of this planet and who knows, maybe they were there before we were here. Maybe they are advanced enough to make a trip here possible. There are thousands of solar systems and universes out there so I think that it would be a little silly to say out of all the planets, stars and solar systems out there that Earth is the only planet with intelligent life on it
Kirk007Anthony 07-16-2015, 12:55 AM I never stated that Intelligent Life DOESN'T exist outside this planet. It does. I'd bet about anything on it. HOWEVER, That being said. Roswell is just nonsense. Glenn Dennis, Gerald Anderson, Frank Kaufman etc. Go down the list of "witnesses" and you'll see how much liars are in the group. Marcel Sr. NEVER stated he saw bodies in the crash. The only ones claiming bodies have already proven to be liars. That phony Alien Autopsy "film". Mine as well throw Bob "I can't remember a teacher's name from a college I attended" Lazar in as well. Total outright liars. Minus Marcel and Marcel Jr. Who were actually honest people whom imo mistook what they saw.
wiseguy182 06-17-2016, 01:55 AM The Black Hope Curse segment.
Random stranger wanders onto somebody's property and informs homeowner they're living on graves. Instead of telling the guy to take a hike like most people would, the (supposedly cash-strapped) homeowner decides he'll plop down a frak ton of money to dig up the backyard and create noise disturbances for the rest of the neighborhood and DISTURB PEOPLE'S GRAVES, which, not surprisingly, is when most of his "problems" begin.
And then the rest of the episode is devoted to the man and his wife blaming the ghosts of deceased black slaves from everything from theft and home invasions to a potential rape/assault on the wife to 6 of their relatives obtaining cancer (with 3 of them dying). And then one of the neighbors tops it all off by deciding she too is going to disturb someone's grave and blames her near-death experience as well as the death of her daughter from shoveling on the ghosts. And the poor black people can't defend themselves from this laundry list of nefarious accusations because they're dead.
Unbelievable. Not surprisingly, none of the people currently living there have reported any paranormal activity.
The part about the one family hearing voices when the toilet flushed (on its own accord, mind you) had to be *THE* most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on the show.
Seriously, this is just so sad. The one woman even went so far as to blame her lack of gardening skills because her plants aren't growing on the ghosts.
James T 06-17-2016, 03:41 AM One thing the Black Hope Curse had going for it was the direction/production-in that regard probably the best UM segment ever. This case if not an attempt to cash in seems to follow the adage of curses being real if people believe in them & that ghosts exist in their minds.
wiseguy182 06-17-2016, 04:10 AM One of the most outrageous things in the whole segment was the part where the spirits (who had left the woman alone all day) suddenly appear the moment the guy comes home from work, and appear in the form of black, shadowy figures. They instantly head off to the master bedroom where the wife is sleeping alone (the figures converge into one "entity" at this point). The husband chases it/them in pursuit and finds it hovering around his wife's bed, as if it were going to rape her right there in front of the husband. And the guy dives right into the ghost at the last possible second to "save" his wife from the doom that was obviously going to befall her.
Utterly absurd.
NYSleuth 06-17-2016, 05:23 AM The Black Hope Curse segment.
Random stranger wanders onto somebody's property and informs homeowner they're living on graves. Instead of telling the guy to take a hike like most people would, the (supposedly cash-strapped) homeowner decides he'll plop down a frak ton of money to dig up the backyard and create noise disturbances for the rest of the neighborhood and DISTURB PEOPLE'S GRAVES, which, not surprisingly, is when most of his "problems" begin.
And then the rest of the episode is devoted to the man and his wife blaming the ghosts of deceased black slaves from everything from theft and home invasions to a potential rape/assault on the wife to 6 of their relatives obtaining cancer (with 3 of them dying). And then one of the neighbors tops it all off by deciding she too is going to disturb someone's grave and blames her near-death experience as well as the death of her daughter from shoveling on the ghosts. And the poor black people can't defend themselves from this laundry list of nefarious accusations because they're dead.
Unbelievable. Not surprisingly, none of the people currently living there have reported any paranormal activity.
The part about the one family hearing voices when the toilet flushed (on its own accord, mind you) had to be *THE* most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on the show.
Seriously, this is just so sad. The one woman even went so far as to blame her lack of gardening skills because her plants aren't growing on the ghosts.
:lol: OMG I thought I was the only one who thought that segment to be ridiculous! I laugh my butt off every time it comes on.
A lot of the ghost segments are just way too funny. The one that comes to mind is the Lake Wales, FL ghost segment - you know, the one with the 'chunky' guy and his teenage bride who were allegedly haunted by a freaky little apparition named 'Kramer'. I mean, come on! :rolleyes: :crazy: :lol:
Still good entertainment. ;)
1990 UM fan 06-17-2016, 05:49 AM It kind of surprises me there are no "murderous nannies/babysitters" cases
How quickly we forget the Maria Hernandez story that Unsolved Mysteries aired on March 28, 1997.
I think a bunch of these stories are getting unfair scrutiny. However, I found the Millie McGregor one to be a bit silly, like she wouldn't have been found by anyone other than the "miracle man" who found her and took her back home? I am happy she was rescued and didn't die out in the wilderness, but I think she would have been saved regardless.
MegtheEgg86 06-17-2016, 10:12 AM A recent post brought this one to mind: the woman who kept thinking she saw her brother (brother-in-law?) who died in Vietnam menacing her all over town, on the road, wherever. I don't frequently throw these kind of sentiments out there, but she seemed like an idiot.
TheCars1986 06-17-2016, 10:47 AM A recent post brought this one to mind: the woman who kept thinking she saw her brother (brother-in-law?) who died in Vietnam menacing her all over town, on the road, wherever. I don't frequently throw these kind of sentiments out there, but she seemed like an idiot.
Curt Borton?
MegtheEgg86 06-17-2016, 11:03 AM Curt Borton?
Yes, that's it.
And I'm not necessarily tuned out to all such claims from families of service members--the Mark Dennis story comes immediately to mind. But this one was just egregious. That Marine died in Da Nang, without a doubt in my mind.
LooksLikeCRicci 06-17-2016, 11:47 AM A lot of the ghost segments are just way too funny. The one that comes to mind is the Lake Wales, FL ghost segment - you know, the one with the 'chunky' guy and his teenage bride who were allegedly haunted by a freaky little apparition named 'Kramer'. I mean, come on! :rolleyes: :crazy: :lol:
Still good entertainment. ;)
MegtheEgg86 06-17-2016, 12:01 PM :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
James T 06-17-2016, 01:54 PM One of the most outrageous things in the whole segment was the part where the spirits (who had left the woman alone all day) suddenly appear the moment the guy comes home from work, and appear in the form of black, shadowy figures. They instantly head off to the master bedroom where the wife is sleeping alone (the figures converge into one "entity" at this point). The husband chases it/them in pursuit and finds it hovering around his wife's bed, as if it were going to rape her right there in front of the husband. And the guy dives right into the ghost and the last possible second to "save" his wife from the doom that was obviously going to befall her.
Utterly absurd.
Wonder if they had watched that Ron Silver film that came out in 1982 when all this started where the entity was sexually assaulting the woman. As seen by the Alan Mann segment there are a lot of randy dead people out there floating around, one guessed they must be urinating in these people's toilets as well since death obviously doesn't stop libidos.
WishfulDreamer 06-17-2016, 11:49 PM A recent post brought this one to mind: the woman who kept thinking she saw her brother (brother-in-law?) who died in Vietnam menacing her all over town, on the road, wherever. I don't frequently throw these kind of sentiments out there, but she seemed like an idiot.
"There was grave robbers!" :lol:
I don't mean to laugh at the family, since they went through a lot of pain, but it really has got to be one of the most far-fetched UM segments. I get that if your loved one's body was never found, you would want to keep that hope that they're still out there. But seriously--the theory that he lived but he's not allowed to approach but will follow his family around town? That is pretty silly.
I always laugh at the phone call "test" in the segment, where they claim the son yelled, "Yeah!" in the background (the reenactment make it extra hilarious with him hiding in the dark a la a suspense movie).
In contrast to this case, I find the Charles Shelton case fascinating. That one was a lot more believable. I think he did live for a long period of time as a POW.
DALLASTEXAN!! 06-18-2016, 06:58 AM One of the most outrageous things in the whole segment was the part where the spirits (who had left the woman alone all day) suddenly appear the moment the guy comes home from work, and appear in the form of black, shadowy figures. They instantly head off to the master bedroom where the wife is sleeping alone (the figures converge into one "entity" at this point). The husband chases it/them in pursuit and finds it hovering around his wife's bed, as if it were going to rape her right there in front of the husband. And the guy dives right into the ghost at the last possible second to "save" his wife from the doom that was obviously going to befall her.
Utterly absurd.
That one was a reach. They could of left that part out and stayed with the mysterious illness angle. But whatever hey as a kid those were my favorite segments. Not so much as an adult. For me there are a lot of silly segments but the entity segment is the most silly one.
wiseguy182 06-18-2016, 07:58 AM It was beyond ridiculous.
Most of the ghost segments portrayed on UM featured ghosts that helped people, help solve crimes, or at the very least, engaged in funny, harmless pranks.
But these people would have you believe these ghosts of black people were responsible for every misdeed and unfortunate circumstance in the whole neighborhood. Shoes missing? It's the black people's fault! Strange noises in the house? Yep, black people responsible for that also. *Dead* black people, mind you.
One of the most appalling moments of the whole segment is when the homeowners, after they just flat out disturbed people's final resting place, decided they'll actually open up the coffin as well, and have somebody handle the remains, with most of them disintegrating on touch. The wife goes one further by swiping the female's rings, which was probably the only thing of worth that poor slave ever owned.
Good production or not, it was embarrassing to watch. I mean, even if you take everything the homeowners said at face value (which is a huge, HUGE reach), you still come to the realization that they likely wouldn't have had any problems had they just left those poor people alone.
James T 06-18-2016, 08:35 AM http://i.imgur.com/YJflOO7.jpg
wiseguy182 06-18-2016, 03:41 PM Oh, I love Graham Chapman. Gone way too soon.
NYSleuth 06-19-2016, 06:12 AM :lol: :rotflmao: @ CRicci's 'LEAVE ALAN ALONE' meme
NYSleuth 06-19-2016, 06:18 AM It was beyond ridiculous.
Most of the ghost segments portrayed on UM featured ghosts that helped people, help solve crimes, or at the very least, engaged in funny, harmless pranks.
But these people would have you believe these ghosts of black people were responsible for every misdeed and unfortunate circumstance in the whole neighborhood. Shoes missing? It's the black people's fault! Strange noises in the house? Yep, black people responsible for that also. *Dead* black people, mind you.
One of the most appalling moments of the whole segment is when the homeowners, after they just flat out disturbed people's final resting place, decided they'll actually open up the coffin as well, and have somebody handle the remains, with most of them disintegrating on touch. The wife goes one further by swiping the female's rings, which was probably the only thing of worth that poor slave ever owned.
Good production or not, it was embarrassing to watch. I mean, even if you take everything the homeowners said at face value (which is a huge, HUGE reach), you still come to the realization that they likely wouldn't have had any problems had they just left those poor people alone.
Now that I think about it, what made me laugh at this segment was the absurdity of it all, BUT remembering these other factors (grave disturbances, blaming dead black slaves for everything under the sun), makes me think these people were all suffering from some mental illnesses. :eek: Disturbing gravesites and robbing the graves...of slaves, nonetheless. Who does that???
wiseguy182 06-19-2016, 07:35 AM There's actually a book out about the case, which includes some things not mentioned in the segment.
In the neighborhood, there were claims of deaths of pets, deterioration of marriages, kids had changes in personality, burned out light bulbs (these are all common occurrences in real life, by the way), poisonous snakes, "severe storms confined to one neighborhood" that left behind huge numbers of large worms, an invasion of huge ants, bleeding trees, and various people/pets go insane and have hallucinations. All of which get blamed on the black ghosts.
There was also a movie about this with Patty Duke in a starring role.
There's some rumors that one of the families that these events supposedly happened to fell on hard times financially, and when they learned their house was built on top of graves, it became their scapegoat.
I might buy the book to laugh at how absurd it is. Then again, maybe I won't.
NYSleuth 06-19-2016, 08:14 AM There's actually a book out about the case, which includes some things not mentioned in the segment.
In the neighborhood, there were claims of deaths of pets, deterioration of marriages, kids had changes in personality, burned out light bulbs (these are all common occurrences in real life, by the way), poisonous snakes, "severe storms confined to one neighborhood" that left behind huge numbers of large worms, an invasion of huge ants, bleeding trees, and various people/pets go insane and have hallucinations. All of which get blamed on the black ghosts.
There was also a movie about this with Patty Duke in a starring role.
There's some rumors that one of the families that these events supposedly happened to fell on hard times financially, and when they learned their house was built on top of graves, it became their scapegoat.
I might buy the book to laugh at how absurd it is. Then again, maybe I won't.
Are you kidding me? OK, this segment has just gone from silly to gross. Shame on UM for giving it airtime. And @ the bolded: I bet some of these destitute families tried to milk this fraudulent story for a quick payday. Some people have no shame. ohno:
James T 06-19-2016, 09:20 AM Just shows how a mass delusion/hysteria can descend on a place once a story gets told. Funny nothing seems to have been reported since they departed as we often see with ghost/polt stories.
magellan333 06-22-2016, 11:08 PM For the unknown twin story, it seems a photo in the local small town paper could've wrapped things up quickly.
I thought the Unabomber/Zodiac story was interesting. Another connection was a similar vehicle connected to each of them.
JannTosh 06-23-2016, 01:58 PM I thought the Black Hope segment was great. I too would freak out knowing if my house was built on a graveyard. Probably start to imagine things as well
SageSlowdive 06-23-2016, 05:31 PM I LOVE the episode with the fat guy and his child bride being haunted - utterly hilarious,:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You can tell the production crew would have had a ball making it, and Stack himself gets in on the fun (after the couple puts salt around their house, he magnificently deadpans "many snails were sacrificed").
Other than the "Ha. Ha. Ha." voiceover, I don't think there's anything silly about the Circleville case - genuinely one of the oddest and most unsettling segments UM have ever featured.
My own nomination for silliest segments are two examples of UM at its absolute worst, where it attempts to create a story where none exists.
Firstly, the "was Kurt Cobain murdered" story. Cobain was actively suicidal in the months up to his death, was behaving in an incredibly self-destructive manner in the months up to his death, made a suicide attempt 4 weeks prior to his death and had a long term obsession with firearms. Move along, nothing to see here.
Secondly, the "Were the Unabomber and the Zodiac Killer the same person"?" segment - based on the "incredible" coincidence that Ted Kacszinsky (Sp.) was in California about the same time as the Zodiac killings. Along with millions of other people. Nothing else whatsoever to link the two.
I wouldn't discredit the Unabomber theory that much. The Zodiac case involved many coincidences that could have tied someone like Ted K. to it. I highly question whether it is true but it is interesting valid nonetheless.
LooksLikeCRicci 06-23-2016, 05:45 PM I wouldn't discredit the Unabomber theory that much. The Zodiac case involved many coincidences that could have tied someone like Ted K. to it. I highly question whether it is true but it is interesting valid nonetheless.
I've said it before, but the Unabomber/Zodiac segment is one of my guilty pleasure segments. Probably because as a Montana gal, I am very familiar with both the Lincoln and Deer Lodge, MT areas.
Stack is right when he discusses how Deer Lodge is a very small town in Montana. I'm sure it's just a coincidence, but I did find the alleged connection between the two fascinating, especially when you tie in the cryptogram aspect of it all and the fact that Ted K. was in California during the period of the Zodiac murders.
I realize how unlikely it is for a serial killer to switch M.O.'s, but I thought UM did a compelling job of linking the two. At the end of the day, I do not think Ted K. is the Zodiac Killer. But it's a fun theory.
DALLASTEXAN!! 06-23-2016, 08:54 PM I've said it before, but the Unabomber/Zodiac segment is one of my guilty pleasure segments. Probably because as a Montana gal, I am very familiar with both the Lincoln and Deer Lodge, MT areas.
Stack is right when he discusses how Deer Lodge is a very small town in Montana. I'm sure it's just a coincidence, but I did find the alleged connection between the two fascinating, especially when you tie in the cryptogram aspect of it all and the fact that Ted K. was in California during the period of the Zodiac murders.
I realize how unlikely it is for a serial killer to switch M.O.'s, but I thought UM did a compelling job of linking the two. At the end of the day, I do not think Ted K. is the Zodiac Killer. But it's a fun theory.
I agree with this. The UM segment was very persuasive. The tough thing for me is there doesn't seem to be any legitimate agencies that consider him a suspect. They obviously have his DNA profile so if there is a DNA profile from the zodiac envelope maybe they would have linked it. But someone as intelligent as TK could have thrown off investigators. He definitely messed with authorities just like the zodiac did. If you have not seen it fbi files did an episode on TK and it is very interesting. I wonder if he was obsessed with the zodiac killers MO but since he Was a shy introvert maybe decided to use bombs along with the cryptography to toy with investigators.
Padfoot 07-01-2016, 05:05 AM No one has mentioned the lost pet segment. I actually liked this story and want to believe it's true.
Basically a woman named Sue moved from Baltimore, PA to Modesto, CA with her five cats: Putt, Cinderella, Nova, Wooly-bugger, and Stardust. Sue's brother was helping her move and they were driving two moving vans cross country. Sue didn't use cat carriers or anything. The cats just jumped around the passenger seat and on the dash, steering wheel and on Sue's lap. On the 10th night, they all slept in the vans at a rest stop. Nova, a black cat Sue was especially close to, escaped out a cracked window. Sue and her brother searched for the cat, but eventually had to leave him behind.
Sue told all her new co-workers about Nova. One woman gave Sue a printed black cat drawing to hang in her cubicle. Sue would look at the drawing every morning and send positive thoughts out to her lost cat. About a year later, Nova showed up outside Sue's work! Sue identified him by some unique features he had. Nova had travelled over 250 miles, to reunite with Sue. An expert of some sort speculated the bond between them was so strong that Nova was able to follow Sue's daily beacon. However it happened, I'm glad Sue and Nova have each other.
Sue may have been the inspiration for the quote,
There is a person out there for everyone. Your person may happen to be five cats."
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