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05-08-2014, 03:16 AM
http://dailyjournal.net/view/story/7a8a5fcc987149739d5a4ff74be213b7/US--TV-MTVs-Daniels/
NEW YORK — When the creative minds at MTV get together, Susanne Daniels must seem like the adult in the room.
It's not like she's chaperoning spring break. But MTV has always seemed as much a state of mind as a television network, a place known best for Osbournes, jackasses and carefree Jersey beach house dwellers.
Now MTV is maturing into a more traditional television network with a broad mix of scripted and reality programming and, in Daniels, has a seasoned television executive in charge of content. Since starting in the business as Lorne Michaels' assistant, Daniels has worked at ABC, Fox, Lifetime, OWN and — most important for MTV — the former WB network during the glory years of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Dawson's Creek."
Daniels' work developing scripted shows, never an MTV priority before "Teen Wolf," is bearing fruit with the just-premiered comedy "Faking It" and the upcoming family drama "Finding Carter."
A desire to expand scripted offerings was a key factor in Daniels' hiring as head of programming in 2012, said Stephen Friedman, MTV president.
"Susanne brings a gravitas in terms of bringing out a story, whether it's in our reality shows or scripted programming, that pushes the team to a new level," he said. Her contacts are as important as her judgment; Daniels' presence is convincing storytellers that might not have previously considered MTV that the network is serious about finding comedies and dramas.
Daniels is beyond the age of MTV's target viewer (most adults are), but she and her television producer-husband Greg Daniels have a test audience of three teenagers at home.
"The irony is that at Lifetime and OWN I was supervising programming for people like myself — women 25 to 54 — and I wasn't having nearly as much fun," she said.
"Finding Carter" is a potential game-changer. The show, which begins in July, features a 16-year-old girl who learns that the woman she thought was her mother abducted her at age 3, and is suddenly sent to live with a mother, father, twin sister and little brother she doesn't know. The promising pilot moves quickly beyond that intriguing premise to add all sorts of complications.
"What if the family you think is your family is not your family?" Daniels said. "That is the ultimate drama for a teenager."
The success of shows like "The Walking Dead" and "Game of Thrones" indicates that shows that seem to have nerd appeal can be broad successes, and young audiences can appreciate intricate, involved plotlines, Friedman said. To that end, MTV has optioned the fantasy book series "Shannara" for a series, signing the creators of "Smallville" to adapt it.
MTV relentlessly monitors the tastes of its target audience since it is faced with the constant pressure of appealing to a young demographic that constantly turns over. One surprise — so much so that Daniels asked to recheck the figures — was that many teenagers said they liked procedurals like "Law & Order." Applying that knowledge to MTV's development begat "Eye Candy," a series on order that follows a group of hackers that turn into a New York cyber police unit.
A cop show on MTV? How CBS. Some of the ideas in MTV's pipeline will feel familiar to an avid TV watcher. "Snack Off," a game where contestants try to create an appetizing meal out of lousy snack food, feels like something off the Food Network. "Slednecks," about a group of rowdy young people, is set in Alaska, which now seems to have as many reality shows as citizens.
Daniels said she won't be scared from ideas just because they recall others. "I'll never not do a show about Alaska if there are all these shows about Alaska, if I think I have the best show about Alaska," she said.
MTV's ratings have slipped recently. So far this year, the network is averaging 802,000 viewers in prime time, 361,000 in the target demographic of 18-to-34-year-olds, the Nielsen company said. The network has dropped three straight years since hitting 1.3 million viewers and 668,000 in the young demo during the same time period in 2011.
The failure to create another sensation on the magnitude of "Jersey Shore" or the fading teen pregnancy franchise is a big reason why.
MTV is pinning its reality hopes on the sober "One Bad Choice," which tells stories of young people whose lives were altered by one fateful decision, and the less sober "Slednecks." The latter feels like "Buckwild" on ice, a way to recreate the budding hit that ended last year following the death of a cast member.
Daniels revamped "Real World" this season after considering ending MTV's longest-running series. The house full of young people, all of whom recently ended relationships, was joined in midseason by all of the characters' exes. Shaken well, drama ensued.
"It's not easy to walk into someplace and say, 'I think I'm going to kill a 28-year-old franchise,'" she said.
MTV said ratings are up among young people at the 10 p.m. weekday time slot, where most new programming is showcased. "Teen Wolf" had its biggest audience in its just-concluded third season. Friedman notes that "Teen Wolf" was streamed digitally more than 58 million times, a classic good news-bad news scenario. It shows fans are interested, but that young people are becoming used to watching shows when they want them, which depresses traditional time slot ratings.
The network is in the process of hiring an editorial director to give MTV more live reports on breaking cultural news in the hope of getting more people watching instead of just streaming, he said.
http://officialfan.proboards.com/thread/498707/switching-gears-more-scripted-television?page=2
Post by tigermaskxxxvii on 7 hours ago
Well it's depressing to see niche channels deviate so far away from their intended purpose (I'm looking at you History Channel and your Alaska/Bayou/pawn shop based reality drivel!). That being said, if it wasn't for MTV deviating from playing music videos in the 90's (i.e. the starting point of "Why doesn't MTV play more music videos?!") we wouldn't have had Beavis & Butt-Head (although this show had music videos acting as interstitial segments in each episode), The Maxx, The State, and all of these other classic MTV shows that we get all nostalgic about (almost as much as we do for said music videos). Albeit back then MTV still had a fairly deep rotation of music video shows (the dying days of Headbangers Ball, Yo! MTV Raps, Alternative Nation 120 Minutes, etc). But still, it's a complaint that has been heard a million times before. They even took the "Music Television" out from under the MTV logo. War is over. Besides, do we really want MTV in the music game considering how much flak the network got for dumbing music down? For so long MTV gets *beep* for what it did to music, then it got *beep* for what it doesn't do to music by not playing music videos! They can't win.
All I know is more dramas and (intentional) comedies and less 16 and Pregnant and Jersey Shore, the better.
13 hours ago Numero99 said:
16 hours ago -Lithium- said:
No one here or anywhere would watch a channel with music videos in 2014. You can go on YouTube and watch any video, at any time, as many times as you want. Stop lying to yourself and others...
Have to agree. Between Vevo and YouTube, music videos on a television network would be watched by no one. That's the reason they switched gears in the first place was that people just watched music videos online instead of on MTV/VH1. The days of niche channels even existing are pretty much gone. The only one left is ESPN and that's only because SPORTS is such a broad category.
If anything MTV should just do more documentary type shows where they follow musicians (or comedians) on tour. Like that show diary.
I think people aren't so much the music videos that everyone is nostalgic for when you consider how easily music videos from artists past and present with the resources you mention (Vevo and YouTube), plus plenty of DVDs put out by bands and solo artists have had complete music video filmographies as special features (or in some cases the main feature). What I think everyone is nostalgic for is the time when watching music videos were an event onto themselves (especially when it was the videos big "world premiere"), which could only be accomplished in the pre-internet days when MTV and VH1 were basically the only game in town. I think that's what the "Why doesn't MTV play music videos anymore" crowd is so upset about, because music videos aren't the great bonding experience it used to be when we can just all watch said videos on our laptops, phones, etc.
NEW YORK — When the creative minds at MTV get together, Susanne Daniels must seem like the adult in the room.
It's not like she's chaperoning spring break. But MTV has always seemed as much a state of mind as a television network, a place known best for Osbournes, jackasses and carefree Jersey beach house dwellers.
Now MTV is maturing into a more traditional television network with a broad mix of scripted and reality programming and, in Daniels, has a seasoned television executive in charge of content. Since starting in the business as Lorne Michaels' assistant, Daniels has worked at ABC, Fox, Lifetime, OWN and — most important for MTV — the former WB network during the glory years of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Dawson's Creek."
Daniels' work developing scripted shows, never an MTV priority before "Teen Wolf," is bearing fruit with the just-premiered comedy "Faking It" and the upcoming family drama "Finding Carter."
A desire to expand scripted offerings was a key factor in Daniels' hiring as head of programming in 2012, said Stephen Friedman, MTV president.
"Susanne brings a gravitas in terms of bringing out a story, whether it's in our reality shows or scripted programming, that pushes the team to a new level," he said. Her contacts are as important as her judgment; Daniels' presence is convincing storytellers that might not have previously considered MTV that the network is serious about finding comedies and dramas.
Daniels is beyond the age of MTV's target viewer (most adults are), but she and her television producer-husband Greg Daniels have a test audience of three teenagers at home.
"The irony is that at Lifetime and OWN I was supervising programming for people like myself — women 25 to 54 — and I wasn't having nearly as much fun," she said.
"Finding Carter" is a potential game-changer. The show, which begins in July, features a 16-year-old girl who learns that the woman she thought was her mother abducted her at age 3, and is suddenly sent to live with a mother, father, twin sister and little brother she doesn't know. The promising pilot moves quickly beyond that intriguing premise to add all sorts of complications.
"What if the family you think is your family is not your family?" Daniels said. "That is the ultimate drama for a teenager."
The success of shows like "The Walking Dead" and "Game of Thrones" indicates that shows that seem to have nerd appeal can be broad successes, and young audiences can appreciate intricate, involved plotlines, Friedman said. To that end, MTV has optioned the fantasy book series "Shannara" for a series, signing the creators of "Smallville" to adapt it.
MTV relentlessly monitors the tastes of its target audience since it is faced with the constant pressure of appealing to a young demographic that constantly turns over. One surprise — so much so that Daniels asked to recheck the figures — was that many teenagers said they liked procedurals like "Law & Order." Applying that knowledge to MTV's development begat "Eye Candy," a series on order that follows a group of hackers that turn into a New York cyber police unit.
A cop show on MTV? How CBS. Some of the ideas in MTV's pipeline will feel familiar to an avid TV watcher. "Snack Off," a game where contestants try to create an appetizing meal out of lousy snack food, feels like something off the Food Network. "Slednecks," about a group of rowdy young people, is set in Alaska, which now seems to have as many reality shows as citizens.
Daniels said she won't be scared from ideas just because they recall others. "I'll never not do a show about Alaska if there are all these shows about Alaska, if I think I have the best show about Alaska," she said.
MTV's ratings have slipped recently. So far this year, the network is averaging 802,000 viewers in prime time, 361,000 in the target demographic of 18-to-34-year-olds, the Nielsen company said. The network has dropped three straight years since hitting 1.3 million viewers and 668,000 in the young demo during the same time period in 2011.
The failure to create another sensation on the magnitude of "Jersey Shore" or the fading teen pregnancy franchise is a big reason why.
MTV is pinning its reality hopes on the sober "One Bad Choice," which tells stories of young people whose lives were altered by one fateful decision, and the less sober "Slednecks." The latter feels like "Buckwild" on ice, a way to recreate the budding hit that ended last year following the death of a cast member.
Daniels revamped "Real World" this season after considering ending MTV's longest-running series. The house full of young people, all of whom recently ended relationships, was joined in midseason by all of the characters' exes. Shaken well, drama ensued.
"It's not easy to walk into someplace and say, 'I think I'm going to kill a 28-year-old franchise,'" she said.
MTV said ratings are up among young people at the 10 p.m. weekday time slot, where most new programming is showcased. "Teen Wolf" had its biggest audience in its just-concluded third season. Friedman notes that "Teen Wolf" was streamed digitally more than 58 million times, a classic good news-bad news scenario. It shows fans are interested, but that young people are becoming used to watching shows when they want them, which depresses traditional time slot ratings.
The network is in the process of hiring an editorial director to give MTV more live reports on breaking cultural news in the hope of getting more people watching instead of just streaming, he said.
http://officialfan.proboards.com/thread/498707/switching-gears-more-scripted-television?page=2
Post by tigermaskxxxvii on 7 hours ago
Well it's depressing to see niche channels deviate so far away from their intended purpose (I'm looking at you History Channel and your Alaska/Bayou/pawn shop based reality drivel!). That being said, if it wasn't for MTV deviating from playing music videos in the 90's (i.e. the starting point of "Why doesn't MTV play more music videos?!") we wouldn't have had Beavis & Butt-Head (although this show had music videos acting as interstitial segments in each episode), The Maxx, The State, and all of these other classic MTV shows that we get all nostalgic about (almost as much as we do for said music videos). Albeit back then MTV still had a fairly deep rotation of music video shows (the dying days of Headbangers Ball, Yo! MTV Raps, Alternative Nation 120 Minutes, etc). But still, it's a complaint that has been heard a million times before. They even took the "Music Television" out from under the MTV logo. War is over. Besides, do we really want MTV in the music game considering how much flak the network got for dumbing music down? For so long MTV gets *beep* for what it did to music, then it got *beep* for what it doesn't do to music by not playing music videos! They can't win.
All I know is more dramas and (intentional) comedies and less 16 and Pregnant and Jersey Shore, the better.
13 hours ago Numero99 said:
16 hours ago -Lithium- said:
No one here or anywhere would watch a channel with music videos in 2014. You can go on YouTube and watch any video, at any time, as many times as you want. Stop lying to yourself and others...
Have to agree. Between Vevo and YouTube, music videos on a television network would be watched by no one. That's the reason they switched gears in the first place was that people just watched music videos online instead of on MTV/VH1. The days of niche channels even existing are pretty much gone. The only one left is ESPN and that's only because SPORTS is such a broad category.
If anything MTV should just do more documentary type shows where they follow musicians (or comedians) on tour. Like that show diary.
I think people aren't so much the music videos that everyone is nostalgic for when you consider how easily music videos from artists past and present with the resources you mention (Vevo and YouTube), plus plenty of DVDs put out by bands and solo artists have had complete music video filmographies as special features (or in some cases the main feature). What I think everyone is nostalgic for is the time when watching music videos were an event onto themselves (especially when it was the videos big "world premiere"), which could only be accomplished in the pre-internet days when MTV and VH1 were basically the only game in town. I think that's what the "Why doesn't MTV play music videos anymore" crowd is so upset about, because music videos aren't the great bonding experience it used to be when we can just all watch said videos on our laptops, phones, etc.