UM had a lot of segments where one "main" case would be profiled, and then other, related (or possibly related) cases would be mentioned briefly.

For example, in the Kurt Sova case, the segment briefly mentions the case of Eugene Kvet at the end.

In another infamous example, the little boy who died in the shed with Scott Johnson is mentioned very briefly, though not by name in the UM broadcast.

What other cases have "secondary" cases that UM mentions briefly, leaving the typical UM viewer desperately wanting more??

Clifford Sherwood's friend (I know they disappeared together, but I wanted to know more about him and what his family thought). Secondly, who did the torso belong to? Perhaps they can use DNA testing to see if the torso belongs to Clifford or his friend, if they have surviving family members. Or pehaps it has been identified since the segment first aired.

The other boys on the tracks. Who were they? Were they killed in the same manner before being hit by the train?

The other cases of missing/murdered children David Fisher was suspected of committing.

In the Amy Billig case, there is a young girl interviewed who was abducted by bikers and held captive for years. I really wanted to know more about her story and how she is doing today.

Elizabeth Greenberg, the woman mentioned in the Nancy Manni case who was killed by a blow to the head.

I also wanted to know if the other babies stolen by Georgia Tann were reunited with their birth families.

Good thread idea.

Cachimba. Stack talks briefly about a few more hit-and-run cases.

There was one, I think it was after the Home improvement scams targeting the elderly, Stack ran down a few more scam artists of various types.

Wishful: I too wanted to know more about the other boys on the train tracks. I tried googling the city name (it was somewhere in Oklahoma) but didn't come across anything.

I seem to recall various ones at the end of the Pigeon drop.

The Chevy Chase bandit. Stack runs down a bunch of other bank robbers at the end.

I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but that guy who stole the 2 art pieces. Stack runs down a whole crap-ton of missing art afterwards. I think there was actually a whole different set when the segment was reran, as some of the pieces from the original bunch had since been found.

btw, how funny was the Chevy Chase bandit segment? When he started crawling on his knees after the fall to grab his briefcase, then they did his epic fall in slo-mo. Good stuff. I can't believe he had the nerve to go through with it after looking like such an idiot.

First ones that come to my mind are Cheryl Ann Kinney and Trudy Darby in the Angela Hammond segment. I think the Debra Poe segment had a few others, but I can't remember their names right now.

Dan Casolaro was a secondary in the Don Devereux/Doug Johnston case before his segment.

The other child that allegedly was abducted with Tara Calico and appears next to her in the photo found in the parking lot.

The girl who wrote the "help me" note at the restaurant in the Anthonette Cayedito segment. It could have been Anthonette, but if it wasn't, there's another potentially interesting story there about a frightened girl trying to escape her captors.

You could practically write a book about John Paul Sr.'s criminal exploits before he disappeared Colleen Wood.

Good thread idea.

Cachimba. Stack talks briefly about a few more hit-and-run cases.

I agree. Great topic! I only recently realized that the Cachimba case took place in my neighborhood! It was considered much more dangerous back then than it is now.

I was just watching the Amy Billig case last night and wondered the same thing about the woman who was abducted and interviewed. It's amazing that she agreed to talk about her experience. I tried to catch her name but it's hard to understand: Sheena Andrews? Sheila Anders?

Lavar Bates. Technically, he did have his own segment, but it was borne out of the TK Harty/John Mooney case.

There was also a missing girl who was found as a result of one of the segments, even though the names escape me at the moment, and her case was totally unconnected to the one profiled.

The other child that allegedly was abducted with Tara Calico and appears next to her in the photo found in the parking lot.

I don't know if that one really qualifies though. The vast majority of the discussion on here has been about Calico, but the segment seemed to divide the time equally between Calico's and Henley's parents.

now, what would qualify were the 3 quickie profiles of missing children profiled at the end of the segment when it was reran (I think it was this segment). I remember Leticia Hernandez being one of them.

There was also a missing girl who was found as a result of one of the segments, even though the names escape me at the moment, and her case was totally unconnected to the one profiled.
That would be Monica Bonilla, found due to the Nyleen Kay Marshall segment. :)

That would be Monica Bonilla, found due to the Nyleen Kay Marshall segment. :)

ah yes, thank you. At least there was *something* good to come out of the Nyleen Kay Marshall case.

Lavar Bates. Technically, he did have his own segment, but it was borne out of the TK Harty/John Mooney case.

That one was especially noteworthy because it was essentially a Lost Loves case born out of a Wanted segment. I don't know if that ever happened save for this one instance.

Quick profiles at the end of segments that come to mind that haven't been mentioned:

-Carlina White and Christopher Enoch Abetaa (main segment Marlene Santana)

-Prison escapees Larry Dennis Miller, Joseph Lee Hutchinson, and Curtis Watson (main segment Michael Wade Mohan)

-A number of other known "Rolex robbers" shown at the end of the segment that highlighted primarily Jacqueline Edmonds on Special #2

I also just remembered when they briefly profiled a couple of other escaped convicts on the UM Alcatraz special. The most insane story was Carl Alfred Eder, a 16-year old hitchhiker who was picked up by a guy named Thomas Prendergast and allowed to stay at his house. However, when Prendergast left for work the next day, Eder proceeded to murder his wife and four children. He was sentenced to two life terms, but in 1974, Eder managed to escape from a minimum security prison (?!) and has still never been found.

The murder of rap artist Notorious B.I.G. was mentioned in the Tupac Shakur segment.

The Chevy Chase bandit. Stack runs down a bunch of other bank robbers at the end.

I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but that guy who stole the 2 art pieces. Stack runs down a whole crap-ton of missing art afterwards. I think there was actually a whole different set when the segment was reran, as some of the pieces from the original bunch had since been found.

btw, how funny was the Chevy Chase bandit segment? When he started crawling on his knees after the fall to grab his briefcase, then they did his epic fall in slo-mo. Good stuff. I can't believe he had the nerve to go through with it after looking like such an idiot.


was he called the Chevy Chase bandit because he committed crimes in Chevy Chase, MD or was he called that because he was stumbling everywhere (ala Chevy Chase when impersonating Gerald Ford on SNL)? I do remember a segment ona bank robber called "Fumbles".

was he called the Chevy Chase bandit because he committed crimes in Chevy Chase, MD or was he called that because he was stumbling everywhere (ala Chevy Chase when impersonating Gerald Ford on SNL)? I do remember a segment ona bank robber called "Fumbles".

The latter. The bank robberies occurred in Beverly Hills, if memory serves.

Clifford Sherwood's friend (I know they disappeared together, but I wanted to know more about him and what his family thought). Secondly, who did the torso belong to? Perhaps they can use DNA testing to see if the torso belongs to Clifford or his friend, if they have surviving family members. Or pehaps it has been identified since the segment first aired.

The other boys on the tracks. Who were they? Were they killed in the same manner before being hit by the train?

The other cases of missing/murdered children David Fisher was suspected of committing.

In the Amy Billig case, there is a young girl interviewed who was abducted by bikers and held captive for years. I really wanted to know more about her story and how she is doing today.

Elizabeth Greenberg, the woman mentioned in the Nancy Manni case who was killed by a blow to the head.

I also wanted to know if the other babies stolen by Georgia Tann were reunited with their birth families.

Well, since I'm the great nephew of Clifford Sherwood's friend I hope I can provide some insight. The case and apparently other reports make our family out to be "OK" and inactive with the past search. However, recent information coming from Georges brother, or in other words my grandfather, negates these claims as his family did try far more than the media claimed. My grandfather and great grandfather went searching by the water to look for him when the police did not help. The story around their family coming to terms with the torso found in the water is entirely untrue. My mother says her grandmother told her that the reason she did not identify the body as Georges was not because she didn't want to believe it, but rather, it was because she wanted the police to keep looking. The Sherwood side of the story definitely overshadows my great uncle's, and it also seems to misconstrue what little information there actually is known.

There was a brief mention of other burglaries "within the area" of where Aileen Conway lived at the time of her death. UM did not go into detail about these burglaries, and whether or not there was violence involved or people home at the time, etc. In the Thomas Drake segment, there is a brief mention of a mental patient's fingerprint being found near the scene of Nancy Drake's attack, but there is nothing else mentioned about this man. And in the Kay Hall segment, there was another similar story of a guy who used a near identical method that Bob Hall did to attempt to kill his wife.

At the end of the Nyleen Kay Marshall case, composite sketches of what appears to be a couple wanted for child abduction was brought up. One of Nyleen's uncles sent a possible-lead that he remembering seeing these two people at the picnic. What case was that from and are they still regarded as persons of interest.

At the end of the Nyleen Kay Marshall case, composite sketches of what appears to be a couple wanted for child abduction was brought up. One of Nyleen's uncles sent a possible-lead that he remembering seeing these two people at the picnic. What case was that from and are they still regarded as persons of interest.

A little while ago, I had stumbled upon a site where someone had noticed a couple of cases of possible child abduction on the Charley Project, and had wondered if they were related. After looking at the 2 cases, one of which happened in 1982, the other in January 1983, and the sketches of the possible abductors, I too had wondered if they were related. I have to wonder if Nyleen is perhaps tied to these cases. Did the sketches on the segment look anything like the sketches of the suspects on the cases I linked below? I've seen the Nyleen Kay Marshall segment many times, but can't remember the sketches.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mort_russell.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/guidroz_wallace.html

Nyleen disappeared in 1983, so that would be along the same timeframe in those cases. Additionally, Nyleen disappeared from a northern state (Montana). Russell and Wallace also disappeared from northern states (New York and Washington respectively). It was theorized someone from Canada was coming into the U.S. and abducting children.

Here are the Composites of the 2 Persons of Interest in Nyleen Kay Marshall disappearance:

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thank you for posting that, golden um.

I am really wondering now if all 3 case could be connected. Comparing all 3 pairs of photos, the general descriptions are the same (youngish couple, 20's-30's), woman with long hair, etc. Some of the details aren't the same, but they could be altering their appearance (or the witness remembered incorrectly, or the sketch artist was off).

But one thing that is standing out to me is that in all 3 pics of the women, she has a long, slender nose.

I'm gonna throw this one out there. Here's another case that could be connected to Nyleen, Wallace and Russell. Same time frame (1982) and again, very close to the Canadian border (northern Idaho). No mention of any young couple seen in the area though, but who knows. He had been missing for 15 minutes before his relatives started looking for him, so he could have wandered off somewhere and been kidnapped.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/barnett_richard.html

UM had a lot of segments where one "main" case would be profiled, and then other, related (or possibly related) cases would be mentioned briefly.

For example, in the Kurt Sova case, the segment briefly mentions the case of Eugene Kvet at the end.

In another infamous example, the little boy who died in the shed with Scott Johnson is mentioned very briefly, though not by name in the UM broadcast.

What other cases have "secondary" cases that UM mentions briefly, leaving the typical UM viewer desperately wanting more??

I don't know if this is "secondary" or not. Remember the one where the woman was looking for houses in Florida, toured one and said to her friend she had had dreams about the house, to the point where she knew the where the back staircase to the house led?

She and her family bought the house, moved in and one night she realized the man who used to live there woke to find his truck was on fire, went outside to extinguish it and was shot and killed? What was that guy's name?

I don't know if this is "secondary" or not. Remember the one where the woman was looking for houses in Florida, toured one and said to her friend she had had dreams about the house, to the point where she knew the where the back staircase to the house led?

She and her family bought the house, moved in and one night she realized the man who used to live there woke to find his truck was on fire, went outside to extinguish it and was shot and killed? What was that guy's name?
http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Harden_House
John Harden. I was happy that they reopened the investigation into his murder (not sure why it was ever closed, since it was unsolved), but they still haven't found the murderer. Someone really had it out for him setting his truck on fire and waiting for him to come outside. I wonder who it could have been and why they targeted him.

On a side note, I thought his first wife gave a very thoughtful interview. Even after he had left her, she still had nothing but good things to say about him.

Last night I was watching the original David Harry Fisher segment. I was surprised to see three other murders briefly profiled. Authorities believed that Fisher, following his escape, may have resorted to his old ways and they are considering him a person of interest in the murders of three other girls: Carla Wright, Michella Welch and Jenny Bastian.

I couldn't find much info on Carla Wright. However, I did find an online article regarding the other two: Michella Welch and Jenny Bastian (http://catchwmw.com/2013/08/16/tacoma-police-think-same-killer-murdered-two-young-girls/)

There are a few cases that come to mind.

--In the Keith Reinhard segment, there was mention made of another man going missing under mysterious circumstances. I believe his name was Tom Young and he happened to be the previous owner of the shop that Reinhard had purchased.

--During the Chandra Levy segment, another missing D.C. intern was briefly discussed though I don't recall the details.

--The Lisa Bishop segment states that there were nine people aboard the freighter that disappeared. I was always curious about that and wish they could have given more info.

On Michael Self's segment, they discuss his conviction for the murders of Rhonda Johnson and Sharon Shaw, and mention other murders that occurred in the area in the same time period. This in part might be about the double murder of Debbie Ackerman and Maria Johnson (http://abc13.com/archive/8269239/), who were murdered two months after Shaw and Johnson went missing, also were last seen in Galveston and were regulars at the Wix ski school on Offats Bayou on Galveston island.

Not mentioned in the segment was that Edward Bell (http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Confessions-of-a-cold-blooded-killer-2187501.php), who was featured on UM for murdering Larry Dickens, was a silent partner in Doug's surf shop and lived along Offats Bayou, and claimed to have committed multiple murders.

The murder of rap artist Notorious B.I.G. was mentioned in the Tupac Shakur segment.
I wish there was a segment done on BIG's murder too. I know some folks don't enjoy the famous cases as much, but these are two murders that should have been solved if police did their jobs IMHO when you look back at what info is out there now. It's pretty clear to me that the east vs. west thing had something to do with it especially in the latter shooting. Tupac is a little more difficult because he was hanging around suge knight a guy that probably had a lot of people that wanted to kill him. but the killer seemed to have targeted Tupac mostly. I do not think Knight conspired with the murder, but he probably knew who did it.

I think the Debra Poe segment had a few others, but I can't remember their names right now.

Donna Callahan, who was pregnant when she was abducted from the convenience store she worked in Gulf Breeze, her body was eventually found and two brothers were convicted of her murder.

Darlene Messer, working at a convenience store in Gainsville, was abducted at 1:00 in the morning. Unlike with Debra Poe, there were signs of a massive struggle at the store and the building was ransacked. Her body was found two days later lying face down in a river bank. The UM segment said she was bludgeoned to death but an article I found online said she was shot in the back of the head and thrown off a bridge into the river. Her murder is still unsolved. :(

Dan Casolaro was a secondary in the Don Devereux/Doug Johnston case before his segment.

Looking back at that moment now, it probably wasn't necessary to include the Danny Casolaro snippet in the Mistaken Hit segment. He and Don Devereaux spoke once on the phone and Casolaro was killed on the other side of the country a very short time later. (The segment seemed to hint that it happened within days.). Yet when Casolaro's segment eventually aired, there was no mention of his contact with Devereaux or his interest in Charles Morgan's illegal gold transactions from Devereaux's research.