View Full Version : New article on unidentified Grateful Dead fan


crystaldawn
04-26-2014, 09:44 AM
Its nice to see he hasn't been forgotten about. A few bits of information in this article I didn't know. It said him and the driver of the car (neither wearing seatbelts) were thrown partially through the windshield and the "Grateful Doe" as they call him was so horribly injured on his face they couldn't release a picture. They also said the note from the Caroline's was not found in his pocket, it was just in the area of the car so they don't know whether it was his or the driver. Here's the article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/25/grateful-doe_n_5208512.html

Charlie99909
04-26-2014, 11:16 AM
I've followed that case for a few years now and I've never seen a lot of those photos including his shoes. They are filthy inside and out, I have old shoes that aren't even that dirty. It almost makes me wonder if he was just drifting around with only what he had.
Almost lends credence to the theory someone had awhile back that his family knows he's dead, but just won't claim him. If that is the case, it's a shame.

Killarney Rose
04-26-2014, 01:22 PM
Really hoping this article helps.

cordwainer1453
04-26-2014, 09:28 PM
All that talk about the note over the years, on this and other sites, and it probably isn't even related to the case.

WishfulDreamer
04-26-2014, 09:50 PM
Really hoping this article helps.
I hope so, too. Good job doing all that work, Killarney Rose.

I think he may have been a runaway or drifter without much a family. But you would think that someone would have been friends with him or that the Carolines who wrote the note would have been found. I think what is also problematic is that he possibly hitchhiked from several states over to attend the concert.

MegtheEgg86
04-26-2014, 09:55 PM
All that talk about the note over the years, on this and other sites, and it probably isn't even related to the case.

I've always been extremely curious about that note. I think it seems logical on the surface to assume the note is associated with Mr. Doe as the driver was conclusively identified and is definitely not named Jason--and I guess it would be somewhat unusual to find a note like that alongside a stretch of highway such as the one the accident occurred on. But you're right: there's no evidence to absolutely suggest it belonged to the unidentified young man.

It's such a simplistic, yet amazingly strange note. Two people named Caroline, one phone number without an area code, and a little cartoon.

Babydollz24
04-27-2014, 04:06 PM
All that talk about the note over the years, on this and other sites, and it probably isn't even related to the case.
I was just thinking the same thing....it could have flown out of another person's car or anything:(

cordwainer1453
04-27-2014, 08:08 PM
I've always been extremely curious about that note. I think it seems logical on the surface to assume the note is associated with Mr. Doe as the driver was conclusively identified and is definitely not named Jason--and I guess it would be somewhat unusual to find a note like that alongside a stretch of highway such as the one the accident occurred on. But you're right: there's no evidence to absolutely suggest it belonged to the unidentified young man.

It's such a simplistic, yet amazingly strange note. Two people named Caroline, one phone number without an area code, and a little cartoon.
One thing people seem to forget is that in the mid 90's and before, if you were making a local call, you didn't have to dial the area code. You just had to dial the seven digits. "Caroline" was obviously someone local to "Jason." Whether "Jason" was the unidentified man, who knows? But the number makes a lot more sense when thinking of it that way.

MegtheEgg86
04-27-2014, 08:12 PM
One thing people seem to forget is that in the mid 90's and before, if you were making a local call, you didn't have to dial the area code. You just had to dial the seven digits. "Caroline" was obviously someone local to "Jason." Whether "Jason" was the unidentified man, who knows? But the number makes a lot more sense when thinking of it that way.

You're right. I'd totally forgotten about that. Does make sense.