View Full Version : Television Without Pity is about to shut down (April 4, 2014)


TMC
03-27-2014, 04:44 PM
http://www.thewire.com/entertainment/2014/03/end-of-an-internet-era-television-without-pity-gets-shuttered/359733/

It was announced today that NBCUniversal would be closing down (http://recode.net/2014/03/27/nbcuniversal-owned-dailycandy-and-television-without-pity-will-be-shut-down/) two venerable digital properties next week: Daily Candy and Television Without Pity (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/forum-488/announcement-91-twop-is-closing-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-fish/).

In particular, Television Without Pity (http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/nbcuniversal-shuts-down-dailycandy-television-without-pity-websites-1201148723/#) — TWoP (https://twitter.com/TVWithoutPity) in the parlance of our times, and for brevity's sake, because if today's news has taught us anything, it's that time is fleeting and nothing lasts forever —had a huge impact on the internet landscape and in particular the way that television was covered. Beginning in the late '90s as Dawson's Wrap (making Dawson's Creek the unlikely mother of an entire movement in TV criticism) and later as Mighty Big TV, the TWoP stock in trade was the TV recap, impossibly detailed summaries of individual TV episodes of everything from ER to Buffy the Vampire Slayer to Project Runway. Written not only for detail but for humor and fan engagement, they became, for a time, the way we talked about TV on the internet.

As time passed and appetites changed, in the TL;DR era, that kind of long-form recapping became the exception and not the rule, but the idea of experiencing TV as an unfolding experience, through the lens of a hybrid fan/critic/hater has certainly endured. NBCUniversal and Bravo acquired the site in 2007 and soon got to the business of turning it into just another entertainment portal. Site founders Sarah D. Bunting, Tara Ariano, and David T. Cole can all be found today writing about TV at the site Previously.TV, where that evolution of TV coverage is on full display.

The legacy of TWoP, a site that hasn't been at the forefront of TV coverage for quite a while, might seem silly to ponder at this late a date. But its influence is pretty apparent if you look around writers and critic-types on Twitter today.

TMC
03-29-2014, 01:11 AM
http://flavorwire.com/newswire/goodbye-twop-or-television-without-pity-daily-candy-too

NBC Universal is shutting down the website whose forums once angered Aaron Sorkin.
Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/tv-tattle#v2oPc1Y5zppxjQYc.99

RetroGuy2000
03-30-2014, 01:19 AM
I'll miss TWOP. Although they sometimes went overboard with their snark, it was a great site for recaps. I'm quite sorry to see it go the way of JumpTheShark.com: hugely successful as an independent website making light of the media, then bought by a major media company, and finally shut down a few years later. See a pattern...?

Vahan
03-30-2014, 01:43 AM
I'm indifferent about the whole thing.

Now if the stupid Live Journal Community "Oh No They Didn't!" closed down for good, then that would be something worth celebrating.

TMC
03-30-2014, 01:45 AM
http://www.trashtalktv.com/

http://previously.tv/shows/

TVFactFan
03-30-2014, 06:01 PM
Same thing will probably happen to this site due to low activity.

Only 2 pages of activity all day and it's almost 6pm

bmasters9
03-30-2014, 07:36 PM
http://previously.tv/shows/

I've already registered on the boards there. I'm bmasters9, same as I was on TWoP Forums.

Vahan
03-30-2014, 07:55 PM
Same thing will probably happen to this site due to low activity.

Only 2 pages of activity all day and it's almost 6pm

You're always worried about this site going to the Internet Graveyard.

I'm sure if you told Todd Fuller about this, he will tell you that he has no intention of selling this site to the dogs in a million years.

TVFactFan
03-30-2014, 08:04 PM
You're always worried about this site going to the Internet Graveyard.

I'm sure if you told Todd Fuller about this, he will tell you that he has no intention of selling this site to the dogs in a million years.



Low activity makes a message board pointless

RetroGuy2000
03-30-2014, 10:07 PM
This site hasn't been bought by a major media company, has it? Unless it has, we're safe.

TMC
03-31-2014, 05:44 PM
http://www.fanforum.com/

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/#~oA81zwMTiui4Wd

http://thesnarkening.forumotion.com/f3-television

The latter, clearly, is geared towards the U.K. and has a European slant. However, they discuss many American TV shows, movies, celebrities and some of the biggest American news and it's a different point of view.

http://www.lipstickalley.com/forumdisplay.php?f=46

The Lipstick Alley television forums. Discuss your favorite TV shows here.

The SuperHeroHype Forums > TV Series > Misc. TV Series (http://forums.superherohype.com/forumdisplay.php?f=166)

This place has a TV & movie section:
http://theotherop.proboards.com/

No recaps, but the Trek BBS has a decent TV forum (http://www.trekbbs.com/forumdisplay.php?f=28).

For reality television, MJ's blog is an option: http://www.mjsbigblog.com/

Here's a place that has a lot of forums for true crime TV shows:
http://truecrime.boards.net

It's not always that active, but Gateworld (mainly a Stargate fan site) has one section of their forums (SciFi Stream) devoted to other sci-fi/fantasy shows. Quite a few of them have multi thread sections dedicated to a variety of shows. http://forum.gateworld.net/forum.php

Besides AV Club ( http://www.avclub.com/tv/), Vulture (http://www.vulture.com/tv/) has recaps/reviews. Also, there's TV Equals (http://www.tvequals.com/category/reviews/) and TV Overmind (http://www.tvovermind.com/).

icecream
03-31-2014, 06:23 PM
I don't have any pity for this site. ;)

TMC
07-03-2014, 04:32 AM
Even though I didn't like the moderators too much on TWoP, one thing that will be sorely missed are the forums. Even SitcomsOnline isn't as deep w/ its analyze of TV shows of various genres (past and present) as TWoP was:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/

TVFactFan
07-04-2014, 02:13 AM
Even though I didn't like the moderators too much on TWoP, one thing that will be sorely missed are the forums. Even SitcomsOnline isn't as deep w/ its analyze of TV shows of various genres (past and present) as TWoP was:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/


Why did the message boards end?

HauntedThunderman94
11-28-2014, 03:23 AM
I miss this site. :( As a substitute I use the previouslytv.com forums

TMC
01-30-2015, 03:14 AM
Who out there knew that there was a TWoP book!?
Television Without Pity: 752 Things We Love to Hate (and Hate to Love) about TV (https://books.google.com/books?id=cm28udLiQlkC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Television+Without+Pity:+752+Things+We+Love+to+Hate+%28and+Hate+to+Love%29+about+TV&hl=en&sa=X&ei=eyzLVNi_A63IsATqr4KgBQ&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Television%20Without%20Pity%3A%20752%20Things%20We%20Love%20to%20Hate%20%28and%20Hate%20to%20Love%29%20about%20TV&f=false)

TMC
04-13-2016, 04:54 PM
http://www.ibtimes.com/tribune-media-company-resurrects-television-without-pity-networks-prepare-new-wave-2352723

The snarky TV website that NBC Universal shut down two years ago is being resurrected. "Welcome Back, You Devil,” (http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/) says the current message on TWoP’s home page.

opus
04-13-2016, 05:05 PM
Who out there knew that there was a TWoP book!?
Television Without Pity: 752 Things We Love to Hate (and Hate to Love) about TV (https://books.google.com/books?id=cm28udLiQlkC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Television+Without+Pity:+752+Things+We+Love+to+Hate+%28and+Hate+to+Love%29+about+TV&hl=en&sa=X&ei=eyzLVNi_A63IsATqr4KgBQ&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Television%20Without%20Pity%3A%20752%20Things%20We%20Love%20to%20Hate%20%28and%20Hate%20to%20Love%29%20about%20TV&f=false)

Since I have it, I did.

VillechaizeLove
04-13-2016, 11:44 PM
I'm indifferent about the whole thing.

Now if the stupid Live Journal Community "Oh No They Didn't!" closed down for good, then that would be something worth celebrating.

Yes! I cannot stand "Oh No They Didn't!". The members think they're superior to everyone. Not to mention, I had members of ONTD harass me on my tumblr account because I just happened to post that I didn't like their community...

Vahan
06-09-2016, 06:38 PM
Another site that I would celebrate the death of:

Lipstick Alley. Like ONTD, it is founded by Feminists and SJWs for Feminists and SJWs.