View Full Version : The fundamental problems w/ Brenda Hampton's shows


TMC
03-20-2014, 06:21 PM
Does anybody else agree about this:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0358950/board/flat/143687168?d=158175652#158175652

Really, it's not the conservative values of her shows that are the major turn off, it's the incredibly unsophisticated production values. I had the misfortune of getting hooked on the next to last season of 7th Heaven (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115083/board/flat/227410631?p=1). What caught my attention was the worst acting I had ever seen on a major network show. It was like a train wreck with all the mugging and overemphasized unnatural delivery (Ashlee Simpson and Haley Duff are not going raise the bar). I know Stephen Collins is actually an excellent actor, but even he was dragged down into a caricature of bad acting by the horrible, obvious, unnuanced, labored and heavy handed dialog. It was written like a soap opera but without the tawdry material that makes that low quality craftsmanship sufferable.

Now I've seen the first 2 eps of Teenager (http://thebitterscriptreader.blogspot.com/2010/02/secret-life-of-teenagers-how-phone.html), and I can't believe it has the exact same moronic canned music that cursed 7th Heaven. It screams made for Lifetime, not a hip, knowing show about teens (https://jezebel.com/writer-blames-second-wave-feminists-for-failing-to-prev-5021032). Amy aside, all the acting and dialog (https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100912194308AA3zqia&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5iaW5nLmNvbS9zZWFyY2g_cT1icmVuZGEraGFtcHRvbitob3JyaWJsZSt3cml0ZXIrc2VjcmV0K2xpZmUmcXM9biZzcD0tMSZwcT1icmVuZGEraGFtcHRvbitob3JyaWJsZSt3cml0ZXIrc2VjcmV0KyZzYz0wLTM4JnNrPSZjdmlkPTUyNkI0QURFMEVEQTRFNkRCRUU5RTMxMDc4QjZBQTZDJmZpcnN0PTExJkZPUk09UEVSRQ&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACmk4YLnj_I-ePzPp84cqn0cTmJuaJ3xtqf2xprLcW6LNf0axL0Clelwr6suvJEcfFxn-fb12uJPUtz1-oBvgLxix423eaBLTRc8YyrgtIyEX57UAL0f-UT-6uumG9y2xfs7F6wvYKk8CFZZR1yLxaNXljeYfDpXrjwAEPjCgAZQ) is just as wretched and labored as Hampton's previous show, so complete and utter ineptitude really does seem to be her signature.

You could make a conservative show about teens work if the writing, direction and acting is skilled. Hampton likely would have butchered anything regardless of theme. She's not even good enough to qualify as a hack.

TMC
10-16-2014, 07:08 PM
I think another problem w/ Brenda Hampton (http://thebitterscriptreader.blogspot.com/2011/01/tuesday-talkback-what-hell-is-brenda.html) is that her shows more than often come off as a weird hybrid of old-fashioned TV family entertainment (a la for example, The Waltons or Little House on the Prairie) and a tawdry soap opera (http://forums.previously.tv/topic/2566-tv-programming-that-jumped-the-shark/). It also isn't so surprising to learn that Brenda Hampton had previously written (http://www.fanforum.com/f301/episode-discussion-5x24-thank-you-goodbye-series-finale-airdate-june-3-2013-a-63095715/index15.html) for Blossom (http://www.macleans.ca/authors/jaime-weinman/a-very-special-dvd-reviewinterview-blossom-and-mayim-bialik/), which like 7th Heaven, was (in)famous for its very special episodes (http://childrenofthenineties.blogspot.com/2009/06/very-special-episode.html).

TMC
09-05-2017, 01:24 PM
http://screenrant.com/bad-tv-shows-went-on-too-long-past-prime/

7th Heaven’s reputation has been marred by the news of Stephen Collins’ sexual abuse against underage girls. While the revelation makes it impossible to look at the show’s patriarch in a flattering light, it’s not the show’s only problem. Long before Collins’ reprehensible behavior become public knowledge, 7th Heaven was a hot mess.

The series lasted 11 seasons (seriously…how??) but it never rose above the quality of an after-school special. 7th Heaven was rather unique for how greatly it emphasized religion and traditional family values, but a strong point of view doesn’t (always) make for great art.

7th Heaven wanted to be a family soap opera with all the twists and turns, but still needed to hit its religious message. The result was that it became a rote checklist of morality more than a TV show.

JO Sweet Heart
09-30-2017, 08:25 PM
7th Heaven went for 11 seasons. If that is a problem in certain people's opinion, what do they consider a success to be?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

TMC
08-13-2020, 03:08 AM
One observation that I stumbled across elsewhere recently is that Brenda Hampton (https://tvline.com/2020/04/23/shailene-woodley-secret-life-of-the-american-teenager-interview/) is to put things kindly, the white female version of Tyler Perry (https://thinkchristian.reframemedia.com/the-tyler-perry-problem/discussion). She's only missing the drag. Basically, they showcase tons of hot guys in their shows while all the women get STDs (https://www.denverpost.com/2006/05/06/7th-heaven-dies-just-as-it-lived-in-moral-bliss/), pregnant (https://slate.com/culture/2006/05/7th-heaven-goes-to-heaven.html) and are slut-shamed (https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/04/13/talking-about-sex-and-the-secret-life/). They both make (https://www.columbiaspectator.com/2008/07/22/secret-s-out-and-it-s-not-worth-repeating/) campy (https://www.indiewire.com/2020/01/a-fall-from-grace-review-tyler-perry-netflix-1202203645/) messes and are conservative Christians (https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057%2F9781137429568_13) who lack self-awareness.

For what it's worth though, Brenda Hampton straight up admits (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oqVV5tYhDs) she based 7th Heaven on 1950s wholesome sitcoms, so it's supposed to be antiquated.