View Full Version : So all because Esther Rolle returned to the show in season 6, no follow up on any of


TVFactFan
02-22-2014, 04:36 PM
these season 5 situations????

No mention or reappearance of Fishbone

No mention or reapperance of JJ's friends, awesome foursome

No mention of reapperance of Mrs Bookman

No mention or reapperance of Frank

No mention of Grandpa Evans and Lena since they were married



So none of these stories or characters could be followed up on in season 6 because Esther Rolle returned to the show??? I mean out of the list Grandpa Evans could have made one last appearance.

Brieannas21
02-23-2014, 01:03 AM
these season 5 situations????

No mention or reappearance of Fishbone

No mention or reapperance of JJ's friends, awesome foursome

No mention of reapperance of Mrs Bookman

No mention or reapperance of Frank

No mention of Grandpa Evans and Lena since they were married



So none of these stories or characters could be followed up on in season 6 because Esther Rolle returned to the show??? I mean out of the list Grandpa Evans could have made one last appearance.


Why would they mention them if they weren't regulars? Especially Frank, Fishbone and Mrs. Bookman. Grandpa I understand

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 01:13 AM
Why would they mention them if they weren't regulars? Especially Frank, Fishbone and Mrs. Bookman. Grandpa I understand


Wasn't Frank going to marry willona??????????????????

Didn't JJ's friends still live in chicago???



Now maybe I agree with you on Fishbone and Mrs Bookman but not with Frank and JJ's friends

Brieannas21
02-23-2014, 01:36 AM
Wasn't Frank going to marry willona??????????????????

Didn't JJ's friends still live in chicago???



Now maybe I agree with you on Fishbone and Mrs Bookman but not with Frank and JJ's friends


Frank and Willona were kinda sorta but not really engaged :lol: I believe they were working on their relationship. And JJ's friends were only in what? 2 episodes? So why would we hear from them in season 6? I could see if they were regulars from season 1 or even season 2.

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 01:45 AM
Frank and Willona were kinda sorta but not really engaged :lol: I believe they were working on their relationship. And JJ's friends were only in what? 2 episodes? So why would we hear from them in season 6? I could see if they were regulars from season 1 or even season 2.


Why did the show have to be all about Florida in season 6? That's why people stopped watching. because she returned, all of a sudden

Willona no longer had a man
JJ no longer had a job
Thelma no longer had a way out of the projects
Keith no longer headed to the NFL


So all that because of the return of Florida evans

Brieannas21
02-23-2014, 01:52 AM
Why did the show have to be all about Florida in season 6? That's why people stopped watching. because she returned, all of a sudden

Willona no longer had a man
JJ no longer had a job
Thelma no longer had a way out of the projects
Keith no longer headed to the NFL


So all that because of the return of Florida evans

All of season 6 was not about Flo, only a few episodes had her as the semi main focus. In a few episodes she wasn't even seen. And in season 1-5 how did Thelma have a way out of the projects? Did I miss some episodes? Did she come into a windfall? Did she have a high paying job? I will not even address the Keith nonsense. Now you're just pulling stuff out of your butt.

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 02:06 AM
All of season 6 was not about Flo, only a few episodes had her as the semi main focus. In a few episodes she wasn't even seen. And in season 1-5 how did Thelma have a way out of the projects? Did I miss some episodes? Did she come into a windfall? Did she have a high paying job? I will not even address the Keith nonsense. Now you're just pulling stuff out of your butt.


So Keith was in the NFL during season 6?? LOL

And Thelma had a way out in the beginning of season 6 and then it all changed

ThomasE
02-23-2014, 04:21 PM
Why would they mention them if they weren't regulars? Especially Frank, Fishbone and Mrs. Bookman. Grandpa I understand


To me, those things were irrelevant(especially fishbone). It did not hurt the show at all. It would have been nice to see Mrs, B (No pun) or Grandpa but it would not have helped the ratings in the last season. It had already been damaged from Esther Rolle's departure.

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 05:35 PM
To me, those things were irrelevant(especially fishbone). It did not hurt the show at all. It would have been nice to see Mrs, B (No pun) or Grandpa but it would not have helped the ratings in the last season. It had already been damaged from Esther Rolle's departure.


No it was damaged because

1. JJ was no longer employed after being a Art Executive in season 5

2. Thelma looked like she was going to be married and living in a nice neighborhood but keith breaks his leg and has no NFL contract



So everything seemed to go backward and people at the time was probably like....,"f*ck this show" I'm done

ThomasE
02-23-2014, 05:38 PM
No it was damaged because

1. JJ was no longer employed after being a Art Executive in season 5

2. Thelma looked like she was going to be married and living in a nice neighborhood but keith breaks his leg and has no NFL contract



So everything seemed to go backward and people at the time was probably like....,"f*ck this show" I'm done


No...the damage started way before that. That's why in part Esther was asked to return. At least with her there, the show ended nicely.

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 05:44 PM
No...the damage started way before that. That's why in part Esther was asked to return. At least with her there, the show ended nicely.


well that damaged came from adding a 10 year kid to the show when they could have focused more on

JJ's career development and love life
Michael's educational progress and love life
Thelma's educational progress and love life
Willona's Love life and job


Why add a kid to the show like that was going to change the ratings?

Brieannas21
02-23-2014, 05:59 PM
To me, those things were irrelevant(especially fishbone). It did not hurt the show at all. It would have been nice to see Mrs, B (No pun) or Grandpa but it would not have helped the ratings in the last season. It had already been damaged from Esther Rolle's departure.


I agree, But I have to admit I wasn't to fun of the Grandpa episodes, they were like filler episodes. But he could have showed up for Thelma's wedding or afterwards to meet Keith. Let's be truthful, the damage was done when John left the show.

ThomasE
02-23-2014, 06:03 PM
I agree, But I have to admit I wasn't to fun of the Grandpa episodes, they were like filler episodes. But he could have showed up for Thelma's wedding or afterwards to meet Keith. Let's be truthful, the damage was done when John left the show.


I was just saying that to myself before reading this. John left, then Esther left, then they tried giving control to Janet DuBois then added a child to the show. They were trying to make things work but it just didn't gel. A caucasian friend of mine in his 50's recalls enjoying the show back in the 70's and kinda stopped watching in season five with all the changes that took place.

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 06:18 PM
I agree, But I have to admit I wasn't to fun of the Grandpa episodes, they were like filler episodes. But he could have showed up for Thelma's wedding or afterwards to meet Keith. Let's be truthful, the damage was done when John left the show.


Thank you for making a good point for Henry Evans to be seen again in season 6:wave:

ThomasE
02-23-2014, 06:20 PM
Thank you for making a good point for Henry Evans to be seen again in season 6:wave:


We can take it one way or another but in all honesty, he really wasn't needed.

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 06:21 PM
I was just saying that to myself before reading this. John left, then Esther left, then they tried giving control to Janet DuBois then added a child to the show. They were trying to make things work but it just didn't gel. A caucasian friend of mine in his 50's recalls enjoying the show back in the 70's and kinda stopped watching in season five with all the changes that took place.


Season 5 ratings still was still higher without Esther Rolle than with Esther in season 6 LOL

season 5 ratings #53
season 6 ratings #84

number don't lie

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 06:23 PM
We can take it one way or another but in all honesty, he really wasn't needed.


He was still her granddaddy lol

ThomasE
02-23-2014, 07:44 PM
He was still her granddaddy lol


Like Brie said, he was a filler.

Regarding the numbers, the show's ratings fell because it didn't even air the entire year which caused the numbers to be low.

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 08:03 PM
Like Brie said, he was a filler.

Regarding the numbers, the show's ratings fell because it didn't even air the entire year which caused the numbers to be low.


Well the show had to be doing pretty bad to be put on a 6 month hiatus. It didn't do that bad without Esther Rolle

ThomasE
02-23-2014, 08:15 PM
Well the show had to be doing pretty bad to be put on a 6 month hiatus. It didn't do that bad without Esther Rolle
In comparison to previous seasons, it was very bad and it dropped to #53 because the elements that helped to define the show (ie Esther Rolle) were gone. It was too little too late by the time she came back but I am glad she did to help complete the show out the way it should have.

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 08:19 PM
In comparison to previous seasons, it was very bad and it dropped to #53 because the elements that helped to define the show (ie Esther Rolle) were gone. It was too little too late by the time she came back but I am glad she did to help complete the show out the way it should have.


So it looked like she shouldn't have come back

ThomasE
02-23-2014, 08:27 PM
So it looked like she shouldn't have come back

Esther's coming back to the show did not cause it to fall in the ratings. In fact, it would have looked bad in retrospect if she hadn't. It was wise for the producers to woo her back. Besides, Maude had a low rated final season. These two shows ran their course.

Mr. Television
02-23-2014, 08:28 PM
Good Times ran it's course when John Amos left. It totally ruined the whole show.

ThomasE
02-23-2014, 08:31 PM
Good Times ran it's course when John Amos left. It totally ruined the whole show.


IDK, it had a little juice even after but was not a complete element having series. When Ms. Rolle left, it was gone.

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 08:31 PM
Esther's coming back to the show did not cause it to fall in the ratings. In fact, it would have looked bad in retrospect if she hadn't. It was wise for the producers to woo her back. Besides, Maude had a low rated final season. These two shows ran their course.


Debate#2. LOL


It's been time for another debate

Mr. Television
02-23-2014, 08:33 PM
IDK, it had a little juice even after but was not a complete element having series. When Ms. Rolle left, it was gone.
I liked the last 2 seasons better when I was younger. They don't really appeal to me much anymore. Back then I must have been a big JJ fan. lol

ThomasE
02-23-2014, 08:33 PM
Debate#2. LOL


It's been time for another debate


I never, eeever back down from a good debte. Be veeeery careful. LOL. ;)

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 08:34 PM
I liked the last 2 seasons better when I was younger. They don't really appeal to me much anymore. Back then I must have been a big JJ fan. lol


Aside from the 4 part penny episodes, season 5 has better episodes than season 6

ThomasE
02-23-2014, 08:34 PM
I liked the last 2 seasons better when I was younger. They don't really appeal to me much anymore. Back then I must have been a big JJ fan. lol


I understand. LOL

ThomasE
02-23-2014, 08:35 PM
Season six was better to me. I enjoy it more since Florida is back.

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 08:44 PM
Season six was better to me. I enjoy it more since Florida is back.


Worst Episodes of season 6

Stomach Mumps
Florida's Favorite Passenger
A Matter of Mothers
The Art Contest
Blood Will tell
Where have all the doctors gone

Brieannas21
02-23-2014, 10:00 PM
Season six was better to me. I enjoy it more since Florida is back.

Thomas I swear you're my brother from another mother. I totally agree, season 6 was WAY better than season 5 and season 4 to me.

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 10:05 PM
Thomas I swear you're my brother from another mother. I totally agree, season 6 was WAY better than season 5 and season 4 to me.


It was better than season 4??? I know you high as a kite now:lol: :lol:

Brieannas21
02-23-2014, 10:15 PM
It was better than season 4??? I know you high as a kite now:lol: :lol:


Yes it was way better than season 4. Season 4 for me seemed awkward, the addition of Carl didn't fit in, they tried to replace John and it did not work. There were episodes that weren't needed, it was like the writers were on vacation and they just wrote anything just to have a show air. There are a few episodes that I like in season 4.

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 10:19 PM
Yes it was way better than season 4. Season 4 for me seemed awkward, the addition of Carl didn't fit in, they tried to replace John and it did not work. There were episodes that weren't needed, it was like the writers were on vacation and they just wrote anything just to have a show air. There are a few episodes that I like in season 4.


The only sh*tty eps in season 4 was

Comedian and the Loan Shark
Friend in need

Brieannas21
02-23-2014, 11:43 PM
The only sh*tty eps in season 4 was

Comedian and the Loan Shark
Friend in need
Grandpa's Visit, My Son the Father, Judy Cohen, The Comedian and the Loan Sharks, Stormy Relationship, Florida and Carl, Michael's Great Romance, J.J in Business, Love has a Spot 1&2..All sucked in my opinion.

TVFactFan
02-23-2014, 11:45 PM
Grandpa's Visit, My Son the Father, Judy Cohen, The Comedian and the Loan Sharks, Stormy Relationship, Florida and Carl, Michael's Great Romance, J.J in Business, Love has a Spot 1&2..All sucked in my opinion.


what was wrong with Michael Great Romance?

Brieannas21
02-23-2014, 11:53 PM
what was wrong with Michael Great Romance?

The whole episode was about how Michael couldn't get up enough never to talk to a girl. It is a boring episode to me, nothing at all funny. I could see if the episode was about Michael going on his first date and it showed him and the girl going to the movies and out to eat or some kind of mishap happening, that would have been more entertaining.

TVFactFan
02-24-2014, 12:04 AM
The whole episode was about how Michael couldn't get up enough never to talk to a girl. It is a boring episode to me, nothing at all funny. I could see if the episode was about Michael going on his first date and it showed him and the girl going to the movies and out to eat or some kind of mishap happening, that would have been more entertaining.


Well it was his first crush, lol Some guys are shy and that's what the episode was about.

Brieannas21
02-24-2014, 10:29 PM
Well it was his first crush, lol Some guys are shy and that's what the episode was about.


And I still think that it was a boring episode that sucks, it could have been written a lot better.

TVFactFan
02-24-2014, 10:32 PM
And I still think that it was a boring episode that sucks, it could have been written a lot better.

Well Yvonne was a little unattractive so that's my only criticism:lol: :lol:

Brieannas21
02-24-2014, 10:39 PM
Well Yvonne was a little unattractive so that's my only criticism:lol: :lol:


Just looked her up and she's Raymond Allen's daughter, and best yet he's still alive.

TVFactFan
02-24-2014, 10:40 PM
Just looked her up and she's Raymond Allen's daughter, and best yet he's still alive.


I know, I remember him having a Myspace page

Brieannas21
02-24-2014, 10:42 PM
I know, I remember him having a Myspace page

Never did Myspace.

TVFactFan
02-24-2014, 11:01 PM
Never did Myspace.


I wish I didn't do it, it led to me losing my job last year

Brieannas21
02-24-2014, 11:11 PM
I wish I didn't do it, it led to me losing my job last year

How in the world did Myspace get you fired? You still use Myspace?

TVFactFan
02-24-2014, 11:18 PM
How in the world did Myspace get you fired? You still use Myspace?


I was posting on another site and like a idiot I included my Myspace page in my profile and the stalkers on the site found out my real name and what i looked like and worked together to get me fired.

I didn't know that as a public employee you can be reported for wrong doing and once they got all my information I was reported to the city and ended up being fired.


So now I know when I post on these sites to never reveal where I work or what my real name is. So you live and you learn

ThomasE
02-24-2014, 11:25 PM
See? That's using the old noggin.

TVFactFan
02-24-2014, 11:30 PM
See? That's using the old noggin.



After being a member of this site for so many years I never thought someone on that site would go out of their way to stalk me to find out where I work so they can get me fired.


But I guess I may it easy for revealing where I work like a fool

Brieannas21
02-24-2014, 11:48 PM
I was posting on another site and like a idiot I included my Myspace page in my profile and the stalkers on the site found out my real name and what i looked like and worked together to get me fired.

I didn't know that as a public employee you can be reported for wrong doing and once they got all my information I was reported to the city and ended up being fired.


So now I know when I post on these sites to never reveal where I work or what my real name is. So you live and you learn

When you were hired they didn't warn you about social media and how you always rep the company/brand or business even if you're not at work?

TVFactFan
02-24-2014, 11:50 PM
When you were hired they didn't warn you about social media and how you always rep the company/brand or business even if you're not at work?


Nope which is why I fought to get my unemployment and waiting on a decision now.


What got me reported was a joke I heard on different strokes


Someone said......"Why are you posting online so early? And I responded with "when you work for the government you get paid not to work"


So me being unaware of a report section is what got me canned

ThomasE
02-25-2014, 12:11 AM
That is why I am careful about some things. Some girl was an idiot and decided that she'd brag about being back to work and still claiming unemployment benefits. At least you didn't say that.

TVFactFan
02-25-2014, 12:21 AM
That is why I am careful about some things. Some girl was an idiot and decided that she'd brag about being back to work and still claiming unemployment benefits. At least you didn't say that.


At the time I was so happy and was saying I work for the city of phila and stated my position like a fool. So my joy made me post too much information. And I was unaware that the city of phila was a actual employer and should have never been mentioned. That was the 1st time every in life I revealed where i worked on the web.


Never again lol

Brieannas21
02-25-2014, 12:27 AM
Nope which is why I fought to get my unemployment and waiting on a decision now.


What got me reported was a joke I heard on different strokes


Someone said......"Why are you posting online so early? And I responded with "when you work for the government you get paid not to work"


So me being unaware of a report section is what got me canned

That is one reason why on here when people ask what I do, I will tell you but you will never know the name of the company that I work for. I do not use my married name at work I have always used my maiden name. I use to have a facebook which I deleted and I started another facebook that is private and personal and no one on here will ever know it or find it.

TVFactFan
02-25-2014, 01:37 AM
That is one reason why on here when people ask what I do, I will tell you but you will never know the name of the company that I work for. I do not use my married name at work I have always used my maiden name. I use to have a facebook which I deleted and I started another facebook that is private and personal and no one on here will ever know it or find it.



After this experience I was forced to get another facebook which is not my real name. I also changed my linkedin account and deleted my pic and shortened my name

Brieannas21
02-26-2014, 05:30 PM
After this experience I was forced to get another facebook which is not my real name. I also changed my linkedin account and deleted my pic and shortened my name

I use my "government name" LOL on Facebook, BUT I don't chat with people from this site or other social media sites on my Facebook, just close friends and family, mainly because I have pics of my kids and husband on there and other stuff.

TVFactFan
02-27-2014, 12:00 AM
I use my "government name" LOL on Facebook, BUT I don't chat with people from this site or other social media sites on my Facebook, just close friends and family, mainly because I have pics of my kids and husband on there and other stuff.


Well you only are supposed to add people you became close friends with lol

Brieannas21
02-27-2014, 07:38 AM
Well you only are supposed to add people you became close friends with lol

Make your Facebook private so then you won't have to worry about stalkers.

TVFactFan
02-27-2014, 08:46 AM
Make your Facebook private so then you won't have to worry about stalkers.

I don't trust the privacy settings which is why I opened a new account. But my linkedin account is what got me fired because that's where I had all my info about what city agency I was apart of. Never again

When I sign up for these message boards now I no longer use a screen that reveals I'm a guy. I also don't say where I live. Lol. Like for example my screen name on one sites is "dabottom". Lol

Jinxey
04-19-2014, 07:57 PM
And I still think that it was a boring episode that sucks, it could have been written a lot better.

I like the writers for that episode (Kim Weiskopf & Michael S Baser). A few years later, they started writing CLASSIC episodes for Three's Company's fourth season