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Dude111
02-18-2014, 09:33 AM
I just recently heard about this movie that was BANNED and I think its totally wrong!!

THIS POLITICALLY CORRECT GARBAGE HAS GONE TOO FAR!!!!


Oh we are afraid of hurting the sheeps feelings!!!!! -- GIMME A BREAK,ITS JUST A MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!

www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00004RO2K

Im tired of the idiots in this country ruining good things FOR THE REST OF US who are stable!!


Im on the lookout for this movie!!!!!!! (I cant find an NTSC copy)

Vahan
02-18-2014, 10:52 AM
The movie has been released in so many PAL territories, including a laserdisc release in Hong Kong. Unfortunately, PAL means it is sped-up. So try getting the Japanese laserdisc release instead. Japanese laserdiscs are not only NTSC, but they are also region-free in the U.S. There were two Japanese laserdisc releases, one in 1985, another in 1990.

Only problem: The subtitles cannot be removed for the song segments.

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11193/SF078-0033/Song-of-the-South-(1946)

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/00369/PILF-1096/Song-of-the-South-(1946)

As much as I hate digital remastering, I also hate it when a film is sped-up severely from its original speed. Though granted, NTSC is 0.1% slower (23.976 vs. 24.000 fps), it is still infinitely much truer to the original speed than PAL (25.000 fps) ever will be.

MacLeaper
02-18-2014, 12:07 PM
The only official NTSC VHS release in the USA of any part of "Song of the South" so far is this Disney Singalongs video release from a few years back-
http://www.amazon.com/Disneys-Sing---Long-Songs--Dee-Doo-Dah/dp/6300276554/ref=sr_1_3?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1392739281&sr=1-3&keywords=Disney+%2B+Singalong

(Which just has the "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah" song segment as far as I know.)

It would be nice if Disney would finally release that movie in Region 1 on DVD or even a NTSC VHS or a LaserDisc- whatever- something. I can understand their concerns about possibly offending people, but they could make it a Disney Movie Club exclusive item or something. Warner Bros. has released Looney Tunes cartoons to DVD in recent years that also could be considered offensive to some people and they made note of that on the packaging so that people keep the historical context in mind. That doesn't make racism, bigotry and hatred right of course- but it does remind people that these TV shows and movies, etc. are a reflection of the time they were made in- and we need to be able to watch them and read books from that time period and so forth so that we can have a better understanding of history and realize how things were then- and compare with where we are now.

Dude111
02-18-2014, 11:41 PM
As much as I hate digital remastering,I hate everything about DIGITAL!!!!! -- Worst thing to ever happen to audio/video!!

Its been ruining some good movies since the 90s,its sickening!! (Even earlier movies re-issued on VHS in the 90s sometimes)

Vahan
02-21-2014, 05:16 PM
Who doesn't hate digital?

Dude111, I was looking at the back of a 1984 VHS release from Warner Home Video, and I was wondering if you know what this message means?

"The linear audio tracks on this tape have been encoded with Dolby B-type noise reduction".

Does it also mean "digitally remastered"?

Dude111
02-22-2014, 11:15 PM
Nope thats just for filtering excessive noise out of the audio track... (Sometimes I think it makes it worse actually but thats what its for)

Thankfully MOST MOVIES that they did this to SAY IT ON THE TAPE OR BOX (or both)

"Digitally mastered","Digitally Recorded" or "Digitally Processed"

Its all garbage and takes the GOOD QUALITY away from the movie!!

I finally got a GOOD COPY OF "The goonies" (1985) -- All i could find for awhile was "DIGITALLY PROCESSED" copies of it and I was not going to watch such a good movie that had been treated like that!! (I hadnt really ever saw that movie before and I didnt wanna experience it like that!!)

What movie is it bud you were looking at??

Vahan
02-22-2014, 11:23 PM
It was the 1984 VHS clamshell edition of Police Academy.

How about original opening logos and original aspect ratios? I am a bit of a pursuit when it comes to those. Are you?

Song of the South originally began with a custom RKO Presents logo; RKO was Disney's distribution company back then. But after the release of Peter Pan, Disney's relationship with RKO ended and Disney formed their own distribution company called Buena Vista. The original "RKO Presents" logo, as seen in the initial 1946 print of SOTS, has yet to resurface. Like most people, I have never seen it. Most circulating prints, since 1956, have a "Distributed by Buena Vista" logo instead.

I always prefer the original aspect ratio of any film and TV show, as used during the original filming. Especially if the movie was shot in fullscreen but projected in widescreen, like the first three James Bond films with Sean Connery, and the Back to the Future trilogy for example.

Dude111
02-23-2014, 04:04 PM
It was the 1984 VHS clamshell edition of Police Academy.

How about original opening logos and original aspect ratios? I am a bit of a pursuit when it comes to those. Are you?

Yes I have a good copy of POLICE ACADAMY ALSO!! (Not 'Digitally Processed' (Took awhile to find a good one)) I only want the first one! (BEST OF ALL OF THEM)

And by ORIGINAL ASPECT RATIO you mean that letterbox crap,no I like my movies,etc FULL SCREEN,always have :)

JamesG
02-23-2014, 04:11 PM
There were talks around 2007 involving Disney releasing Song of the South on DVD, but they ultimately backed out.

Vahan
02-23-2014, 04:19 PM
There were talks around 2007 involving Disney releasing Song of the South on DVD, but they ultimately backed out.

Supposedly, there is also a South Korean laserdisc (also NTSC), in addition to the ones I have mentioned. And like the Hong Kong Laserdisc, the SK one doesn't have any permanent subtitles during the songs. But I have yet to see it.

Dude111
02-24-2014, 01:51 AM
There were talks around 2007 involving Disney releasing Song of the South on DVD, but they ultimately backed out.All the ignorant fools are the reason........ Its quite sad.....

Torgo
02-24-2014, 10:11 AM
Yes I have a good copy of POLICE ACADAMY ALSO!! (Not 'Digitally Processed' (Took awhile to find a good one)) I only want the first one! (BEST OF ALL OF THEM)

And by ORIGINAL ASPECT RATIO you mean that letterbox crap,no I like my movies,etc FULL SCREEN,always have :)

Full screen is ok if that's the way the film was originally meant to be seen, but I prefer to watch movies in their original aspect ratio ( of course I won't complain if there's no other option), but if it was filmed widescreen, that's how I want to see the movie, because that's how the director intended the movie to be seen.


A lot gets chopped off to make a rectangle into a square.;)

comedyfreak
02-27-2014, 12:48 PM
I just recently heard about this movie that was BANNED and I think its totally wrong!!

THIS POLITICALLY CORRECT GARBAGE HAS GONE TOO FAR!!!!


Oh we are afraid of hurting the sheeps feelings!!!!! -- GIMME A BREAK,ITS JUST A MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!

www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00004RO2K

Im tired of the idiots in this country ruining good things FOR THE REST OF US who are stable!!


Im on the lookout for this movie!!!!!!! (I cant find an NTSC copy)
I got my copy from iOffer.com I also agree with you 1000%

RowMan
04-09-2014, 11:44 AM
I just recently heard about this movie that was BANNED and I think its totally wrong!!

THIS POLITICALLY CORRECT GARBAGE HAS GONE TOO FAR!!!!...

...I'm on the lookout for this movie!!!!!!! (I cant find an NTSC copy)

The movie is not banned. The Disney company just chose not to release it on home video in the US. For whatever reason, right or wrong, it's their right to do so.

A very good NTSC version can be found at classicreels dot com .

http://classicreels.com/images/song_of_south_lg.jpg

MrCleveland
04-11-2014, 08:50 AM
It would be nice to see this film on DVD...

...even Whoopi Goldberg said "Though what you are about to see is a stereotype...It's even worse to just deny that there was bigotry back then". (Or something like that).

Dude111
04-11-2014, 06:58 PM
A very good NTSC version can be found at classicreels dot com .Thank you buddy........ Unfortunetly it is not on VHS and I dont wanna see it!


I wanna see the original analog master if @ all possible.... (And not digitally mastered -- IM SICK OF THAT CRAP)

Vahan
04-12-2014, 07:36 PM
Thank you buddy........ Unfortunetly it is not on VHS and I dont wanna see it!


I wanna see the original analog master if @ all possible.... (And not digitally mastered -- IM SICK OF THAT CRAP)

And it says 91 minutes, not 94 minutes, like it should. PAL Speed-up, or any other form of time compression, is a no-no.

RowMan
08-24-2014, 05:51 PM
The "Digitally Remastered" is just hype. The true source of this DVD is a British television broadcast from 2007. It was then digitally converted from PAL to NTSC. The running time on the package is also incorrect. The film runs approximately 94 minutes.

Dude111
08-24-2014, 07:25 PM
Im sick of DIGITALLY MASTERED GARBAGE!!!

Perfectly good movies FROM THE PAST ruined and its sickening and sad!!!!


I KNOW WHAT THE AGENDA IS!!!!!!!!!!!!

To remove everything THAT WAS PURE in the world and get thier mind controlling crap onto these beautiful analog movies!!

http://web.archive.org/web/20121231040312/http://www.sandrelli.net/HD%20and%20mind%20control.htm

Vahan
08-25-2014, 11:54 AM
Im sick of DIGITALLY MASTERED GARBAGE!!!

Perfectly good movies FROM THE PAST ruined and its sickening and sad!!!!


I KNOW WHAT THE AGENDA IS!!!!!!!!!!!!

To remove everything THAT WAS PURE in the world and get thier mind controlling crap onto these beautiful analog movies!!

www.sandrelli.net/HD%20and%20mind%20control.htm

How can you forget PAL? PAL sucks, too. It is annoying to see something sped-up from its original speed, unless the film or television show was meant to be in PAL, like Magical Mystery Tour for example.

Dude111
08-25-2014, 07:40 PM
You mean NOTHING ON PAL is @ the right speed buddy?? (Forgive me I havent ever seen a PAL movie (And if true,i might not want to))

Vahan
08-25-2014, 08:24 PM
Yes. Although like I said, The Beatles' Magical Mystery Tour was more intended for British Television, and therefore, was meant to be in PAL mode.

But getting back to Song of the South, this here is the PAL version. The opening score should really be an octave lower than how it is here.

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Dude111
08-26-2014, 11:13 AM
Then what good is PAL if nothing is the speed it is supposed to be??

SOUNDS LIKE CRAP....... I might as well get rid of the PAL movie I have.. (I was wanting to see it but not like that)

Vahan
08-26-2014, 12:22 PM
Then save up for a laserdisc player and get this 1985 printing of the film, since it is 100% analog.

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11193/SF078-0033/Song-of-the-South-(1946)

Laserdisc players are region-free. I just hope you won't find the unremovable Japanese subtitles during the songs a problem. There is no other way to see this film in NTSC and 100% analog.

Dude111
08-26-2014, 04:35 PM
Well then I guess ill overlook them!! (Like my 'BACK TO THE FUTURE' VHS TAPE in LP mode instaed of SP (Only way to see it 100% analog (On VHS) so i accept it))


Thanx Vahan!

Torgo
08-26-2014, 04:37 PM
But transfer your laser to DVD or computer as there's a chance it can get laser rot.

Schmoopie
08-30-2014, 01:46 PM
I have this movie at home. Someone copied it for me and made a case for it. I used to love the movie when I saw it with my mom. Hey, I saw it as a kid and nothing was said about it back then. People should know that it was written in another era when things were very different in the world!

Dude111
07-17-2025, 10:23 PM
Yes things were MUCH BETTER!!


I recently saw reg NTSC copies of SONG OF THE SOUTH on VHS by Disney!! (On ebay)

I got a copy a couple years ago from the UK (It was a PAL to NTSC copy)

This is Disneys BEST movie!!


I got my copy from iOffer.com I also agree with you 1000%Excellent :)