TMC
12-03-2013, 01:50 AM
For those who don't know who Fred Freiberger was:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Freiberger#Negative_reputation_in_science_fiction_fandom
Freiberger has a dubious reputation in science-fiction fandom, mostly due to his involvement in the final seasons of Star Trek, The Six Million Dollar Man and Space: 1999, all of which were cancelled under his watch. This has resulted in Freiberger being given the nickname "The Series Killer" in some circles,[8] although he was also involved in the establishment of series that lasted for several seasons, such as Wild Wild West and Superboy.
Freiberger was repeatedly called in to "save" already-failing TV series such as Star Trek and Space: 1999, and tended to effect stylistic changes in an effort to do so.[citation needed] It is argued that Freiberger's involvement was sometimes instrumental in seeing otherwise doomed series be picked up for further seasons.[9] Both Nichelle Nichols and William Shatner have refused to assign any blame to Freiberger for the poorly received third season of Star Trek.[10][11] Freiberger himself took some credit for ensuring that Space: 1999 was picked up for a second season, because he had excited the series' financial backers with his proposed creative changes and the idea of introducing a new character.[3]
Now here's some insight on Tim Doyle (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0236506/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1)'s works on the following shows:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1828327/board/flat/222765155?d=222809732#222809732
Some people accept mediocrity, and some want the best. I has nothing to do with people just wanting to complain. They had something great and ruined it, that bothers a lot of people, and it should. After the re-castings, the show's ratings have steadily declined and a quick search of the most recent posts on their Facebook page show probably 50% are people that want them to bring back the original Kristen. There's no doubt that it was a bad decision, and it's unfortunate that pride prevents them from admitting their mistake and correcting it. It seems that people like you wouldn't care one way or the other, but they obviously have lost a lot of viewers because of bad decisions by the Producers. If you look at the showrunner (http://www.parade.com/158283/nancyberk/showbiz-analysis-with-last-man-standings-tim-doyle/), his recent track record will tell you that he's not that great at making decisions that improve shows. Better Off Ted was great and he ruined it (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1235547/reviews?start=20). Breaking In (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630574/board/flat/195892683?p=1) was great and they ruined it (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630574/board/flat/195965003?p=1). Never even heard of Aliens In America (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0790603/board/flat/105936044?p=1). Not one of the better seasons (http://www.ign.com/articles/2009/05/19/the-big-bang-theory-season-2-review) of Big Bang Theory (http://bigbangtheory.wikia.com/wiki/Tim_Doyle). Declining ratings on Rules of Engagement (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0790772/board/flat/211814028?p=1). And so on. If it's two years later and the majority of messages on all your boards are regarding a stupid decision to recast someone, why not listen to the fans and fix the error? I'd bet anything that ratings would improve. Guaranteed. But, pride, arrogance, and stubbornness will make them dig in even harder and refuse to listen to the fans until this, along with more poor decisions, lead to cancellation. They are literally averaging less than half the viewers they had in season 1. That proves to me that they made a bad decision as it seems to be the most discussed aspect of the show that bothers people. It may be my opinion, but it is backed by the numbers as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Freiberger#Negative_reputation_in_science_fiction_fandom
Freiberger has a dubious reputation in science-fiction fandom, mostly due to his involvement in the final seasons of Star Trek, The Six Million Dollar Man and Space: 1999, all of which were cancelled under his watch. This has resulted in Freiberger being given the nickname "The Series Killer" in some circles,[8] although he was also involved in the establishment of series that lasted for several seasons, such as Wild Wild West and Superboy.
Freiberger was repeatedly called in to "save" already-failing TV series such as Star Trek and Space: 1999, and tended to effect stylistic changes in an effort to do so.[citation needed] It is argued that Freiberger's involvement was sometimes instrumental in seeing otherwise doomed series be picked up for further seasons.[9] Both Nichelle Nichols and William Shatner have refused to assign any blame to Freiberger for the poorly received third season of Star Trek.[10][11] Freiberger himself took some credit for ensuring that Space: 1999 was picked up for a second season, because he had excited the series' financial backers with his proposed creative changes and the idea of introducing a new character.[3]
Now here's some insight on Tim Doyle (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0236506/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1)'s works on the following shows:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1828327/board/flat/222765155?d=222809732#222809732
Some people accept mediocrity, and some want the best. I has nothing to do with people just wanting to complain. They had something great and ruined it, that bothers a lot of people, and it should. After the re-castings, the show's ratings have steadily declined and a quick search of the most recent posts on their Facebook page show probably 50% are people that want them to bring back the original Kristen. There's no doubt that it was a bad decision, and it's unfortunate that pride prevents them from admitting their mistake and correcting it. It seems that people like you wouldn't care one way or the other, but they obviously have lost a lot of viewers because of bad decisions by the Producers. If you look at the showrunner (http://www.parade.com/158283/nancyberk/showbiz-analysis-with-last-man-standings-tim-doyle/), his recent track record will tell you that he's not that great at making decisions that improve shows. Better Off Ted was great and he ruined it (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1235547/reviews?start=20). Breaking In (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630574/board/flat/195892683?p=1) was great and they ruined it (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630574/board/flat/195965003?p=1). Never even heard of Aliens In America (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0790603/board/flat/105936044?p=1). Not one of the better seasons (http://www.ign.com/articles/2009/05/19/the-big-bang-theory-season-2-review) of Big Bang Theory (http://bigbangtheory.wikia.com/wiki/Tim_Doyle). Declining ratings on Rules of Engagement (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0790772/board/flat/211814028?p=1). And so on. If it's two years later and the majority of messages on all your boards are regarding a stupid decision to recast someone, why not listen to the fans and fix the error? I'd bet anything that ratings would improve. Guaranteed. But, pride, arrogance, and stubbornness will make them dig in even harder and refuse to listen to the fans until this, along with more poor decisions, lead to cancellation. They are literally averaging less than half the viewers they had in season 1. That proves to me that they made a bad decision as it seems to be the most discussed aspect of the show that bothers people. It may be my opinion, but it is backed by the numbers as well.