View Full Version : Why come Steve did not introduce Myra to another nerdy guy


Neutronman67
11-09-2013, 10:23 AM
Myra thought that steve was the only nerdy guy for her but he was not she was just desperate she even pretended to be interested in polka to get him to reject his dream for laura and put his heart and soul into her, steve urkel gave up his girlfriend who was into bugs and science like him in season 2 they had good chemistry but for some odd reason he introduces her to some jerk jock at school, why come steve did not do the same thing for Myra he should have introduced her to eddy or waldo haraldo faldo heck weasel would have been a perfect match for myra lol.

tlc38tlc38
11-09-2013, 10:25 AM
"Why come" you go take a nap?

rpm31
12-18-2013, 11:13 PM
Easy answer: Steve probably TRIED to do it off screen, but Myra was just TOO OBSESSED with him, just like Steve was too obsessed with Laura to move on to someone else.

nicole7477
12-24-2013, 03:55 PM
Myra made herself TOO TOO easy by chasing after him, being needy and clingy, and most men that I know don't find that attractive. Women are not supposed to chase after a man, going after a man. It's the man's job to do that. I know that you think that it's a good thing, but in real life, it's not a good thing. I was in Myra's shoes. I used to like this guy very much, and I accepted him like he was, and we both like the same things, and I used to do the same things that Myra did. Stalking him, chasing him, going after him, and everything. I did that until one day, he called me and said that he met somebody else, and then a year later, he MARRIED that person. Yeah, Myra accepted Steve as he was, but chasing after him, wanting to **** him, being obsessed with him turned Steve off. Yeah he went steady with Myra only because Myra demanded him to, not because he wanted to. Yes he find her attractive just like he find Laura attractive, but he likes Laura more because of the challenge. Laura didn't chase Steve, being obsessive and jealous and possessive like Myra was, and Laura didn't make herself easy and available like Myra. That's why Steve married Laura. Don't no man want no easy woman whether if she's pretty or not, whether if she like the same things as he does or not. Myra probably pretend to like polka and cheese just to get with Steve.

rpm31
12-24-2013, 10:28 PM
Nicole, I DO agree with you on Myra making herself TOO EASY in season 5, especially in "Like a Virgin," when she really did try to force her body on Steve (have sex with him), especially in the locker scene at the end. However, after season 5's "Nunsense," Myra calmed down a lot when she realized her mistake of drawing Steve naked nearly split them up for good, and she was well behaved up until the final season, when the writers regressed her development after Steve got his makeover, but again, that was STEVE'S fault for clinging to his kindergarten crush, which was completely unrealistic and would never occur in real life - I've said it before and I'll say it again, in real life, Steve would have given up on Laura before he was even in high school. Anyway, back on topic, the reason Myra was against his makeover was because she was afraid Laura would finally see Steve the way she sees him and steal him away from her, and Myra's fear was realized, as Laura did take Steve back from her.

nicole7477
12-25-2013, 12:45 AM
Well, Steve didn't make himself over for Laura, and Laura DID NOT steal Steve away from Myra. Steve left on his own. I'm going to say this again. I think that the Steve and Laura union is legit. I don't know why you are SO against their union. Again, Steve's makeover has NOTHING to do with Laura. What the writers should've done is have Steve and Laura together after the Dream Date episode, then it will be more realistic in my opinion. They should've gotten together together at the end of Season 7 instead of having a Steve clone changed into Stephan. That's my opinion.

Steve led Myra on to the point where even though he went steady with Myra, his heart was still yearning for Laura. Yes, she calm down a lot, but it's only because they went steady, and she demanded it. She was the one that told him to be loyal to her, not him. If somebody doesn't love you, move on, and that's what Myra should've done, but she FORCED her way to Steve, and you can't do that. They either want you or they don't.


You may not think that it will happen in real life but it does. I know some guys who marry their kindergarten crushes even though their crushes didn't want them AT FIRST. This DOES happen in real life. I saw it.

I just want to ask you one question. Why are you SO against Steve and Laura?

rpm31
12-25-2013, 01:00 AM
I know Steve probably did not make himself over to win Laura's heart, but that probably did get Laura to notice him more. Also, you just said that if someone doesn't return your feelings for you, move on, but you were referring to Myra forcing herself on Steve, yet it was okay for Steve to continue pining over Laura his whole life? Steve never moved on either, he just pretended to, and as a lucky side effect, it got Laura jealous so she fell in love with him at the end.

nicole7477
12-25-2013, 01:16 AM
Ok, Steve was wrong for forcing feelings on Laura just like Myra was wrong for forcing her feelings on Steve, so they were both equally wrong. Yes, Laura noticed the change. I think that it's for the better. Who wants to still wear suspenders at 20-21 years old? It's showing Steve growing up. Steve was still a nerd though. Laura got jealous because she likes Steve. It wasn't the first time that she was jealous either. I think that she been like Steve but was too caught up on her popularity status at the time, more like the Valley Girl dating a man from the wrong side of the town.

You didn't answer my question. Why are you so against the Steve and Laura union?

nicole7477
12-25-2013, 01:38 AM
Thank you for explaining yourself. Yes, Laura treated him like crap in the beginning. I agree with you for that. But she did change in late seasons. I think that Steve and Laura should've start dating a little earlier than Season 9, then it wouldn't be such beef towards that union. Yes, Steve and Myra were in happy dates for 4 years, but Steve's heart was still towards Laura. In Seasons 1 and 2, you have to remember Laura was a teenaged girl who was popular in school, dating the most handsomest, athletic guys in school, and don't want to ruin her reputation dating a nerd like Steve. She was a young girl, so you can't use what she did as a young girl and apply it in her adult life. Laura was meant to him, but even before Season 9, I just have that gut feeling that Steve and Laura will end up together even if Myra was in the picture, and this was back in the early to mid 90s that I had that feeling. To tell you the truth, I don't like Myra. She's a pretty girl, but she's also a pushy, arrogant, possessive, jealous clingy, needy woman, and I don't like that. Laura on the other hand was sure of herself. She's pretty, she's smart, she's confident in herself, but she did have a bad taste in men who only want to have sex with her. She better be lucky that Steve is with her now, because he would've left her a long time ago.

You personally may not like the Steve/Laura pairing and that's OK, but I do, and I will not change that.

rpm31
12-25-2013, 02:13 AM
I can't think of a single reason for Laura being the one for Steve though, other than Steve being unable to get over his obsession with her to the point that he's permanently damaged as far as being able to return romantic feelings for other women who may truly love him for who he is (such as Myra, and even before Myra, there were probably others in his school who would have been happy to date him). I guess in that weird way, though, it may have been for the best that Laura got Steve and not Myra, because he would have continued to mistreat Myra. Poor Myra though, she's probably permanently damaged as far as being able to return romantic feelings for other men who may truly love her for who she is, and she'll most likely end up old and alone. As I've mentioned in another post, Steve's cousin Myrtle was probably the most lucky one out of the three main stalkers in love on FM, as she was the only one to actually get OVER her obsessive crush.

nicole7477
12-25-2013, 02:29 AM
True, but I still think that Laura was the one for Steve. She's pretty, she's smart. She's level-headed. Yes she treated him like crap, but that's when she was younger. Why can't you see that? What makes you think that she's not the one for Steve? If you think it's because of how she treated him in junior high and high school, then I disagree with you. You have to realize that people do change as they get older. You can't have that same superficial thinking at 21 that you did at 13, 14, 15, and 16. The Bible says that when I was a child, I spake as a child, I thought as a child, but when I became an adult, I put away childish things. So you can't judge Laura based on how she treated Steve in her youth. I still say that they make a good pair, and I will not change my views.

cleverfun3000
12-25-2013, 08:33 AM
To the mis-guided woman who stated that men DON'T like women that chase after them (the chasing is "the man's job) you couldn't be more incorrect and wrong. You were so wrong on so many levels that I just don't know where to start. First of all, whether you are a man or a woman, if you see someone you are strongly attracted to, it is your "job" to let them know you are both interested AND available. If you wait until he or she notices you, someone who is a lot more direct and aggressive will take your man. Also, many men prefer to deal with a woman who is NOT a challenge. So many men prefer a pretty woman that would chase them and make themselves very easily available. There are 3 kinds of people in life: those that WATCH things happen, those that MAKE things happen, and those that ask "What Happened??" Your comments make it clear which 2 of the 3 comments you reccommend. So in conclusion women, go after your man and make yourself as easily available as possible. Or miss out by playing un-readable mind games like: I want YOU, but you chase ME.

nicole7477
12-25-2013, 08:54 AM
Well that's not how nature works. If you see the animal kingdom, the male animal chases and conquers the female animal, not the other way around. Animals are no different than people. You may think that it's ok for a woman to chase a man, but in reality, MOST MEN DON'T LIKE IT! Times may change, but men never change their views when it comes to women. Yes they don't mind it for a while, but then the men will hit it and bounce, and go to another woman who doesn't make herself TOO TOO available, needy, clingy, and desperate. Most men want a woman who's not too needy, clingy, desperate, obssessive, possessive. It's not attractive no matter how she looks. Men put too much emphasis on a woman's looks more than what's inside. I know that men are visuals, but some men take it too far.

Neutronman67
12-25-2013, 10:28 PM
That's not true their are Alot of desperate guy's that would like a lady like Myra Monkhouse to chase them like she did to Steve Urkel, i have seen men at nightclubs they get needy and clingy and try to compete with each other guys to get the woman to go out on a date with them they usually get on the Womans nerves like Steve trying to win over Laura with his wacky inventions they usually end up getting slapped, punched in the face, yelled at, have drinks thrown at them for being perverted and creepy, and last but not least rejected in a way similar to poor Steve Urkel on the fictional sitcom Family Matters hahahahahaha lol.

nicole7477
12-26-2013, 12:48 AM
True, but I still don't think that it's good for a woman to chase a man. I guess I'm old fashioned, and plus, I'm a Christian. The Bibles says that a MAN that finds a wife finds a good thing. Yeah, they wouldn't mind a Myra or a Laura to chase them, BUT in a long run, that man is not going to take them seriously for a long term relationship, and it doesn't matter how a woman looks. If a man just want to hit it, of course they wouldn't mind a woman chasing a man if their mind is focusing on smashing them, but when they want to settle down, get serious, and get married, they are not going to choose a woman that chases them to death. It didn't work then, and it doesn't work now. Men are wired to be hunters and chasers. It's a biological fact.

Furienna
12-26-2013, 10:29 PM
Steve finding a nerdy girl another nerdy guy had already been done, in season 2. And no matter how badly Steve treated her later, I think he actually cared about Myra. Heck, he would even be attracted to her a lot of the time!

nicole7477
12-26-2013, 10:46 PM
No doubt that he still cared about Myra and he found her attractive just like he found Laura attractive, but at the end of the day, his heart still belong to Laura, and he wanted to be with Laura, flaws and all.

rpm31
12-26-2013, 11:01 PM
Still, if Steve had thought with his head, he would have given up on Laura cold turkey. He MAY hurt for a short while, but any happiness Myra would have given him would have quickly healed his broken heart.

nicole7477
12-26-2013, 11:15 PM
What happen to forgiving people for what they did to them and give people a chance? If you love someone, you will fight to get with that person. I think that he's smart for choosing Laura over Myra. Why do you wish that he give up Laura? She's a good person too. I don't think that Myra was good for him. She seems like the jealous type. That's MY opinion.

rpm31
12-26-2013, 11:29 PM
Yeah, and Steve wasn't jealous of every guy Laura went out with? Remember, the reason he went on that first date with Myra was because Laura and Ted set it up because he was extremely jealous of Ted for no reason. Then again, Steve COULD have moved on if he felt Laura found someone she's truly happy with and he knows he's just in the way, like what he almost did in the third to last episode of Family Matters.

Myra had every reason to be jealous. Her biggest fear was losing Steve to Laura, and she did.

Furienna
12-26-2013, 11:35 PM
The stupid writers did everything to make us adore Laura and dislike Myra. They tried to make us believe that Laura was every guy's wet dream, while Myra was just some crazy stalker. But guess who always had my sympathy?

nicole7477
12-27-2013, 12:18 AM
Yeah, it should've been more equal and balanced, I agree with you on that. They shouldn't make Myra a stalker though. The writers should've taken their time in Steve and Laura's relationship instead of rushing it, and then it wouldn't be a problem, and Myra wouldn't get hurt and desperate, but I still think that Steve and Laura make a good couple though, and I will not change my mind about that one. It sounds like you wanted the writers to make Laura the lonely manless woman that's not liked by anybody. I think that the writers should make Laura AND Myra likeable characters.

Neutronman67
12-31-2013, 12:57 PM
Myra was not ugly it would not be hard for a cute girl like her to go out with some smart popular jock guy that would respect her and not hurt her feelings saying he is in love with another girl besides her that harsh, and Steve told Myra since the first date he was using her until Laura falls in love with him and his predictions came true he did just like he said he dumped her for Laura in season 9 lol, Laura would not be every guy's wet dream in real life no boy would want to be bossed around by her on their dates haha.

Neutronman67
12-31-2013, 01:03 PM
Well Steve and Myra had the same stalker personality that's why they could relate to each other they were both chasing after their dreams until they reach that goal, unfortunately Steve reached that goal in his early 20's and well poor Myra most likely could spend the rest of her life alone because her dream was only one person Steve Urkel she was also a little crazy who is to say she would not stop Laura and Steve from getting married just because he dumped her does not mean she was done stalking him, and i think Myra tried to sneak on that space ship with Steve Urkel in Lost in Space part 1 that was crazy lol.

nicole7477
12-31-2013, 01:03 PM
Neutron, this is true. Myra can get any man that she wants, so it shouldn't be no problem for her. That's why it upsets me why would she be possessive over Steve and be all needy and ****. She has the looks to pull ALL kinds of guys. Laura is not ugly either, and that's why she can pull a lot of guys, and she will still be every man's wet dream in real life looks wise, but not personality wise. They can just hit it and bounce.

nicole7477
12-31-2013, 01:11 PM
That's the writers' fault for that. Like I told RPM, even though I always had that feeling that Steve and Laura were meant to be, they should've done it the right way. They shouldn't paint Myra as a possessive fatal attraction type of stalker. First off, Steve and Laura should've develop feelings for each other at least in Season 6-8 when Myra's character was a little calm, and it will be easy for Steve to break it up with Myra without Myra being possessive. She will do like Myrtle did with Eddie, move on to somebody else, and it will be to the point where Myra will probably attend the wedding herself with her new man,, and probably be one of the bridesmaid since they were both friends in these seasons.

And speaking of stalking, Myra gave Steve a run for his money in that part.:lol:

rpm31
12-31-2013, 08:40 PM
Gotta agree with Nicole on the stalking part. In the last season, Steve was at least finally willing to quit stalking Laura for good so she could be happy with his clone, whereas Myra will probably spend the rest of her life trying to break Steve and Laura up, even after they're married.

nicole7477
12-31-2013, 09:54 PM
Even though I liked the Steve and Laura couple, I don't think that they should have Myra be the fatal attraction stalker like that in the last season. That was wrong because even though Myra was a stalker in Season 5, she wasn't that possessive. That's the writers' fault. They should've changed Myra's behavior for the better even if Steve and Laura end up together, but instead, they made her worse than before. I mean, come on, a spy camera????? Her putting a microphone surveillance in his glasses????? WTF?????? They would'nt make Myra a mean, possessive stalker if they have Steve and Laura hooked up 2 or 3 seasons earlier.

rpm31
12-31-2013, 11:36 PM
Yeah, as I've said before, I think the writers only regressed Myra's development in the final season so that viewers would understand why Steve HAD to choose Laura over her. Otherwise, Steve had a really good thing going with Myra in seasons 7 - 8.

nicole7477
01-01-2014, 12:16 AM
I think that if Laura develop feelings for Steve 2 or 3 seasons ago, even though Steve had a good thing with Myra, He will tell her in a friendly and kind way that he still have feelings for Laura, and we are in love, and I hope that we will become friends, and I'm pretty sure that Myra will understand and move on like Myrtle did. Then Myra wouldn't be possessive like Season 9. I still think that Steve and Laura were meant to be together, but I think that they should've done it the right way.

rpm31
01-01-2014, 12:48 AM
Oooh, that Myrtle. Eddie was very lucky he already found someone else by the ninth season, else Myrtle would have been after Eddie forever, even if Eddie hated her guts forever. Seeing as Steve eventually got Laura, that would have given Myrtle false hope if Eddie wasn't already in love with Greta.

nicole7477
01-01-2014, 01:21 AM
Yeah, but I can't see Myrtle with Eddie though. Eddie was the perfect match for Greta. Like Myra, Myrtle is too pushy and sex-crazed, and most men don't like that, plus Myrtle is below average in looks, so even if Eddie didn't have Greta, he wouldn't get with Myrtle. Hell to the no

rpm31
01-01-2014, 04:48 PM
I know Eddie would probably never go for Myrtle, even if he didn't have Greta, but it's just many FM fans don't like the Steve and Laura ending because Steve stalked Laura to one degree or another practically throughout the series (or at least until he lived with the Winslows), and that ending gives false hope to geeks everywhere who think they can pester the woman (or man) of his or her dreams long enough until he or she grows to love the geek back, so that could have given Myrtle false hope had Eddie not already chosen another.

nicole7477
01-01-2014, 04:59 PM
There are a lot of fans that like the Steve and Laura ending. I think that they dislike HOW it was handled, and I pretty much don't blame them. I think that it's good that if Steve chase after the girl of his dreams, and she suddenly fell for him EARLIER.

rpm31
01-01-2014, 05:58 PM
Still, a better message would be for Steve to finally put the past behind him and move on, but I guess that's what Myrtle was for.

Furienna
01-01-2014, 06:13 PM
And no matter what the writers wanted us to think, I will always like Myra better than Laura.

nicole7477
01-01-2014, 07:02 PM
Yeah, you're right.

nicole7477
01-01-2014, 10:00 PM
Furienna, you have that right, but please don't get mad at somebody that like Laura more than Myra. I like Laura better than Myra, and I'm glad Steve chose her. Laura is not that bad of a person that you think she is.

She reminds me a lot of myself minus the shallow part. I'm a feisty, sassy black woman with self confidence just like Laura, and I will not apologize for it.

You always voting for Myra while trashing Laura, well let me tell you something. Myra wasn't no angel either, but you don't see that. She's just as much a bitch as Laura is. I don't think that Myra was a good fit for Steve. Myra was too damn possessive. Even RPM agree with me about how she is. You only like Myra because she's light-skinned she look almost like a white woman like yourself. You are intimidated by brown-skinned black women like Laura. You're probably the type that don't like brown-skinned black women. You're probably some white girl that don't like dark skinned black women with black men. You hatred for Laura is crazy. Laura probably reminded you of some black girl that made you mad. Stop hating on my girl Laura.


BLACK POWER!

Furienna
01-02-2014, 04:12 AM
I never talked about anybody's skin color, or appearance in general. You're really jumping to conclusions there.

nicole7477
01-03-2014, 01:50 PM
Furienna, it's been like this in America for years. Ok, look at these two attractive women, Myra and Laura. You may not literally say anything about skin color, but subliminally, you and most people choose Myra over Laura even though Myra can be as much of a bitch as Laura, but because they always revered, worshiped, praised, adored women of all races of a lighter hue, Myra will always be chosen over Laura. So no matter how a woman of a lighter hue acts, they will still look over it because she's closer to the white standard of beauty whereas Laura is a little further from it. It's not your fault. Blame it on society.



Unfortunately, in society, a woman's worth is her youth and beauty, and if she has neither, she will be ridiculed. A man's worth is his status, affluence, and strength. A man is not judged by the way he looks as much as a woman is. Since the beauty standards are white, and women are judged by the way they look, black women like Laura will be viewed as less attractive even though they're not.

Also, behavioral stereotypes concerning skin tone in women come to play. Light skin is viewed as feminine, sweet, delicate, youthful, and innocent. Dark skin is viewed as masculine, tough, sultry, erotic, sexual, mean, evil, and what have you. Now, let's take a look at the portrayal of Myra and Laura.

Myra-if you look at her portrayal, she is seen as bubbly, sweet, and youthful. Even though she's sex-crazy, conceited, jealous, possessive, obsessive, and what have you, she will still be seen in a positive light because she's light-skinned. Her bitchiness, jealousy, possessiveness, and obsessiveness will be overlooked because of the perception of a lighter skin tone.

Laura-Even though she's a straight-A student, a virgin, attractive, feminine, live in a middle class neighborhood, came from a two-parent home, a cheerleader, have good morals, she was perceived as bitchy, shallow, conceited, sultry, mean, evil, slutty etc. Because she's of a darker hue than Myra, they will overlook the positive side of Laura. They will see her as unattractive even though she's not. They will view her as a low-class ghetto slut even though she's the opposite simply because she's darker.

This is deeper than Myra and Laura. This comes to play in real life.

Furienna
01-03-2014, 02:11 PM
But seriously! Again, this has nothing to do with their race (and to me, both Laura and Myra are black anyway), their appearance or their background. I simply don't like Laura in most episodes, because of her personality. And yet, the writers kept trying to convince that she was the "good" girl, while they would turn Myra into the "bad" one... :rolleyes:

nicole7477
01-03-2014, 04:18 PM
Yes, they are both black to you because you are non-black, but I'm telling you by what I see in the black community in the United States. As a dark skinned black woman, there's a huge preference for light skinned women in the black community, and black men in the black community in the United States are responsible for keeping this going. Look at community.allhiphop.com, and you see how black men in that website trashed dark skinned black women. And in the black community in America, dark-skinned women are ridiculed, degraded, abused, denigrated for being dark skinned. I expect you to not understand this because you never experienced this, but I have. Try being dark, African-American, and a woman, and you will see what I'm talking about.

I don't think that Laura has a bad attitude though. She just have a spicy, sassy attitude, and she speaks her mind, and I don't think that's bad. Why is it ok for Myra to be jealous, possessive and nasty towards Laura? That's not right. OK, Laura wasn't nice to Steve, but don't you think that some of it is justified as of why she behave this way towards Steve? Even RPM will tell you this. I love Steve, but he's clumsy, he destroys her parents home, he runs her boyfriends away, and what have you. If you were Laura, you will feel some type of way towards Steve as well. So, why is Laura getting bashed for it but Steve is not getting bashed for destroying her family's home, running her boyfriends away or being clumsy? Why is it ok for Carl Winslow and Eddie Winslow to being nasty towards Steve but when Laura does it, she's a mean shallow bitch? That's the double standard that I don't like. You don't have to like Laura, but you make it seem like Laura is the Wicked Witch of the West. I met black women who were WAY worse than Laura as far as her personality.

Why is Laura a bitch for being shallow? I know a lot of shallow women, but nobody trashes them for it. There's nothing wrong with a woman wanting a good-looking guy if he treats her right. Is it because she's a virgin and she wants to keep herself for marriage that you think she's a bitch? What's wrong with that? I wish I was. Is it because she makes straight-As? There's nothing wrong with a woman being intelligent. You said that she acts conceited. I don't look at it as being conceited. I looked at it as being self confident and self assured and happy with herself. What's wrong with that?

rpm31
01-04-2014, 03:08 AM
That's funny you mention that it is ok for Carl or Eddie to be mean to Steve, but not Laura, because if any one of the three should be bashed for it, it is Eddie. Eddie was the one who really took advantage of Steve's friendship on several occasions, whereas with Carl and Laura, their anger towards Steve was justified 95% of the time because of what you said about Steve destroying their home and practically stalking them.

Neutronman67
01-04-2014, 12:18 PM
Eddie and Carl were only mean or rude to Steve if he gets on their bad side but they did not mean to hurt his feelings sometimes they were unaware he would be offended, Laura said things and she ment every single word she said to Steve lol, their was even a episode where she finally confess to Steve that whenever he makes her mad and she says something rude to him she eventually starts to feel sorry for him then she is like i dont know why i do that, Laura is just one of those people that likes to speak her mind, Steve was so perverted i wonder if he spied on her while she was in the bathroom lol.

Furienna
01-04-2014, 12:43 PM
I won't deny that Carl and Eddy could be mean towards Steve too. But with Laura, she mostly rubbed me the wrong way. The biggest exception is the episode about the Black history class. Yeah, everything backfired at first. But it was a good cause, and that also is the only episode, where I actually feel sorry for her. And I also like when her grandmother says that she likes to read. Okay, we knew that Laura was a straight A student. But it hadn't been made clear before then that she liked to read. But unfortunately, there are many more episodes, where I don't like Laura...

nicole7477
01-04-2014, 01:24 PM
Why do Laura rub you the wrong way if you know that Carl and Eddie were also mean to Steve? Is it because she speaks her mind? Are you the type that believe that women should be seen and not heard?

Furienna
01-04-2014, 02:32 PM
Like I've already said, it's her bitchy personality. She's so full of herself.

rpm31
01-04-2014, 02:50 PM
Eddie and Carl were only mean or rude to Steve if he gets on their bad side but they did not mean to hurt his feelings sometimes they were unaware he would be offended, Laura said things and she ment every single word she said to Steve lol, their was even a episode where she finally confess to Steve that whenever he makes her mad and she says something rude to him she eventually starts to feel sorry for him then she is like i dont know why i do that, Laura is just one of those people that likes to speak her mind, Steve was so perverted i wonder if he spied on her while she was in the bathroom lol.

Haven't you seen that episode, "What's Up, Doc?," when Carl, Laura, and Eddie badmouth Steve for various reasons? While Carl and Laura had legitimate reasons to be mad at him based on their flashbacks, Eddie's was for a bogus reason. Eddie was just mad at Steve because he accidentally told one of Eddie's girlfriends that Eddie was dating someone else behind her back, and Eddie really shouldn't have gotten mad at Steve for that - that was really Eddie's own fault for two-timing LOL. If Steve hadn't ratted Eddie out for that, Waldo would have.

nicole7477
01-04-2014, 06:45 PM
I don't think she has a bitchy attitude. She just have high self-esteem, and she loves herself, and she has self confidence. That doesn't make her full of herself and bitchy. I love Laura's sassy attitude. I think she's more laid back. Myra can be a bitch sometimes too, but that will be another thread, so I won't go there. I don't know why people are so threatened by Laura's sassiness. At least she's not needy, possesive, and obssessive like Myra

rpm31
01-04-2014, 11:37 PM
For the most part, Steve had high self-esteem, loved himself (if you can ignore that on two separate occasions, he tried to keep himself as Stefan), and had self confidence as well, but I guess that's another double standard for women - if women have those things, they come off as bitchy, even though it shouldn't be like that.

nicole7477
01-05-2014, 12:47 AM
Exactly. We live in a society where women should be seen and not heard. If a woman speaks her mind, has high self esteem, have self confidence, assurance, she's bitchy and stuck up, but when a man does it, he's being a man.

Furienna
01-05-2014, 05:41 AM
But seriously! :rolleyes:

So first, I was being racist towards Laura, even though I hadn't even mentioned anybody's race. And now this is going to be a "women are still oppressed by society" issue? Get real! An arrogant person is an arrogant person, no matter what race or gender the person has...

nicole7477
01-06-2014, 10:14 AM
No, YOU get real! Because it's funny how I've rarely hear you dog out Carl and Eddie, and they are ALWAYS mean and nasty to Steve, but you manage to single out Laura. I'm just calling you out on it, and I think that it's a double standard. You just don't like Laura, and that's ok, but I think that you are being a little bias because Carl and Eddie are doing the same thing that Laura did, but nobody bashes them for it. I stand by what I say and you will not change it. To me, what you're saying is a little sexist. If a woman wants a good looking guy, she's a shallow bitch, but when a man wants a good looking girl, he's being a man. Eddie is shallow towards women, but I don't hear nobody trashing him for it, but you will trash Laura for wanting a good-looking man. It's a double standard, and I will not change my views. I will not be silenced by anyone in this board. I speak my mind, and I say what I mean and I mean what I say.

Neutronman67
01-08-2014, 10:58 AM
Nicole some people on SitcomsOnline take things too personal on this site they act like middle school kids they try to change your opinions and thoughts just to please them for their own selfish pleasures, i am like you Nicole i am not going to have complete strangers whom dont know anything about me are never seen me before in their lives tell me what i can and cant say i have my own mind also i understand SitcomsOnline is a small community site compared to a global website like IMDB where millions of people go on that site but if i have something to say and think other people might enjoy reading it i will write it down on this site.

Neutronman67
01-08-2014, 11:01 AM
Furienna since your from Sweden i assume your white you told me you are swedish you must not see any other race of people up their in Örnsköldsvik, Sweden i can see why you like Family Matters all the people from the show are African American lol, Furienna do you see lots of black people where you are from in Sweden ???

nicole7477
01-08-2014, 11:43 AM
This is why I get along with you and RPM better because we both have different opinions, but you guys never force your opinions on others. Even though you both have a different opinion about Steve and Laura, you both did give this couple the benefit of the doubt. You both are right about Laura's attitude, but you guys also understand WHY she act that way towards Steve. At least you didn't call Laura derogatory names. I mean come on, is it that necessary? I don't have time to be arguing back and forth about a fictional couple. I have better things to do. I state my opinion, and I stand firm on it. I'm not here to change nobody's opinion about Steve and Laura. I'm just stating why I like them together better that's all.

Furienna
01-08-2014, 12:15 PM
Furienna since your from Sweden i assume your white you told me you are swedish you must not see any other race of people up their in Örnsköldsvik, Sweden i can see why you like Family Matters all the people from the show are African American lol, Furienna do you see lots of black people where you are from in Sweden ???
We now have many immigrants from Asia and Africa. So yes, there are plenty of black people in town.

Neutronman67
01-10-2014, 09:14 AM
Furienna you dont have to be afraid to make a racial statement about Laura you are free to speak your mind on SitcomsOnline, i find it more entertaining when people speak their mind then chicken out because they are afraid people who read it might get mad TVFactFan likes to speak his mind he's just a man that wants to get his message across to people his personality is similar to mine but i am not going to insult people because they have a diff'rent opinion then me that would be rude lol.


Furienna your a grown woman so you know the diff'rence between fiction and real life you never been to American before in your life thats what you told me but you have seen American show's like The Fresh Prince of Bel Air and Family Matters do you think the United States of America is just like you see on TV Show's ???

Neutronman67
01-10-2014, 09:28 AM
Thanks Nicole i am just a outgoing and outspoken man on Sitcoms Online everybody knows me here i never force my opinions on other people or try to make them change their minds because they are just going to get mad i am honest i always tell the truth and write what i think.

I love argument debates about fictional TV Shows its entertaining and fun lol.


Family Matters is not like other shows it has alot of unsoved mysteries.

Neutronman67
01-10-2014, 09:31 AM
Furienna i hope you understand that Laura got that sassy attitude from her mother Harriet, Harriet always played mind games with carl and he was her husband hahaha lol.