This topic may have been discussed in an earlier thread, but I was not able to locate it if so.

I've heard several times that Ms. Jackson did not care for Ms. Ladd at all. I wonder why. Actually, I like all four of the original angels (Farrah, Kate, Jaclyn and Cheryl).

I have also heard that Kate and Farrah were very close.

Your post has prompted me to do some reading on the subject. Apparently there was LOTS of unhappiness on the set through the years, which is a downer for someone like me who followed the show for all five years.

Your post has prompted me to do some reading on the subject. Apparently there was LOTS of unhappiness on the set through the years, which is a downer for someone like me who followed the show for all five years.
It's very sad because I think all the cast was great together. Farrah was my favorite Angel but Cheryl did a great job replacing her. I think Kate was the glue that held the show together and after she left ,the show sort of slid. I don't understand what the animosity was all about.

The original angels were Kate, Farrah, and Jaclyn....

Cheryl will always be Farrah's replacement no matter how many years she was on the show.

I was wondering why there would be such animosity on a set that produced such a well-liked and successful show, so I asked my girlfriend what she thought the cause could be. She said it was most likely because when there are that many attractive women sharing the spotlight, they can be catty, spiteful and jealous of one another and basically haters. I believe it.

Kate Jackson's dislike of Cheryl Ladd reminds me of Bea Arthur's dislike of Betty White.

With Kate and Cheryl, Jaclyn, who seems to be close to both of them, is caught in the middle.

With Bea and Betty, Rue McClanahan was close to both Betty and Bea and was caught in the middle.

Both Cheryl Ladd and Betty White seem to be known for their sweetness.

I think Kate and Bea were both simply jealous of Cheryl and Betty.

Kate Jackson's dislike of Cheryl Ladd reminds me of Bea Arthur's dislike of Betty White.

With Kate and Cheryl, Jaclyn, who seems to be close to both of them, is caught in the middle.

With Bea and Betty, Rue McClanahan was close to both Betty and Bea and was caught in the middle.

Both Cheryl Ladd and Betty White seem to be known for their sweetness.

I think Kate and Bea were both simply jealous of Cheryl and Betty.
The thing is, I just don't understand that. Farrah was the biggest star to come out of CA and Kate was great friends with her. Kate also went on to star in Scarecrow and Mrs. King so CA wasn't even her last hit show. It has to go deeper than just that.

I believe that Kate Jackson's autobiography, "The Smart One", is due out in February, 2015, and maybe she will discuss this point in the book. I hope so.

Farrah was known as the sexy one, Jaclyn as the beautiful one and Kate as the smart one.

The original angels were Kate, Farrah, and Jaclyn....

Cheryl will always be Farrah's replacement no matter how many years she was on the show.

Kate, Farrah, and Jaclyn were the original three.

But Kate, Farrah, Jaclyn and Cheryl were the original four.

The thing is, I just don't understand that. Farrah was the biggest star to come out of CA and Kate was great friends with her. Kate also went on to star in Scarecrow and Mrs. King so CA wasn't even her last hit show. It has to go deeper than just that.

Maybe because Kris seemed more of a lead charcter than Jill. Kris had more depth as well.

This topic may have been discussed in an earlier thread, but I was not able to locate it if so.

I've heard several times that Ms. Jackson did not care for Ms. Ladd at all. I wonder why. Actually, I like all four of the original angels (Farrah, Kate, Jaclyn and Cheryl).

I have also heard that Kate and Farrah were very close.

I have read that Kate Jackson was generally a difficult person to get along with. According to the website AllRovi (formerly AllMovie), whereas Jaclyn Smith was frequently cited as the nicest co-worker in Hollywood by colleagues (including support and technical personnel like make-up artists, stage hands, camera operators, etc), on the other hand Kate Jackson was frequently said to be among the most unpleasant to work with, especially for those who were lower down in the pecking order.

Perhaps the problem between Kate and Cheryl is simply rooted in Kate Jacksons personality and temperament.

I think I even remember Kate saying in an interview that she was not that close to Cheryl. I liked Cheryl on the show. I thought she was a good replacement for Farrah. While I liked Farrah's "Jill Monroe", It was Farrah's idea to leave the show. People should not have been hating.

This never made sense to me. I've poured over tons of articles over the last 30 years trying to compile info about this.

Cheryl was so sweet and likable. Physically, Cheryl was the total package. She was more curvy than any of them and just as sexy as Farrah was. Maybe Kate was jealous of her for that reason. (?)

Hopefully Kate will address this when her book comes out.

The reasons seem very unclear, so I took a look at the Charlie's Angels Casebook and this is what I found out:

There were proble with Kate and Cheryl right away and no one knows what started it, according to Jaclyn Smith.
Cheryl said herself that some days Kate was talking to her and some days she didn't talk to her. Cheryl had a home and a family and the other two were single at that time and she was really available to be social and as much as a girlfriend to them.
Producer Edward Lasko thinks that everyone was still upset over Farrah leaving and they were not going to make things easy for Cheryl.
David Doyle was not really privy to what was going on but he didn't think that anyone felt any animosity towards Cheryl. He stated that there were relationships formed during the first season that when a new kid comes in, everyone looks at them like an alien.

My understanding is that everyone was so used to one another that when a new kid joins the group, they are not eager to let her into their circle of friends. Just like school.

The reasons seem very unclear, so I took a look at the Charlie's Angels Casebook and this is what I found out:

There were proble with Kate and Cheryl right away and no one knows what started it, according to Jaclyn Smith.
Cheryl said herself that some days Kate was talking to her and some days she didn't talk to her. Cheryl had a home and a family and the other two were single at that time and she was really available to be social and as much as a girlfriend to them.
Producer Edward Lasko thinks that everyone was still upset over Farrah leaving and they were not going to make things easy for Cheryl.
David Doyle was not really privy to what was going on but he didn't think that anyone felt any animosity towards Cheryl. He stated that there were relationships formed during the first season that when a new kid comes in, everyone looks at them like an alien.

My understanding is that everyone was so used to one another that when a new kid joins the group, they are not eager to let her into their circle of friends. Just like school.

Judging by all the things I've ever read, Jaclyn and David loved Cheryl from the beginning. The "powers that be", Kate and most of the crew had doubts that Cheryl would be able to replace Farrah. Cheryl knew she had some big shoes to fill. Her first season must've been very stressful for her. After Cheryl showed up with the Farrah Fawcett-Minor t-shirt, she broke all the tension and they all knew she was the right woman for the job. Cheryl (almost singlehandedly) saved the show... she kept all those people employed. She should be praised.

I prefer Kate's physical appearance, but IMO Cheryl was/is the total package... she has beauty, a positive attitude and a sweet/vivacious personality.

They are both beautiful.

It's a shame that of all of them, only Kate had any real success in television after leaving the show. Tanya had a supporting role in That 70's Show, but it wasn't that big, and otherwise...not much. Farrah, of course, enjoyed some film success, but really Cheryl, Jaclyn, Tanya, and Shelly all just sort of disappeared from the tube.

It's a shame that of all of them, only Kate had any real success in television after leaving the show. Tanya had a supporting role in That 70's Show, but it wasn't that big, and otherwise...not much. Farrah, of course, enjoyed some film success, but really Cheryl, Jaclyn, Tanya, and Shelly all just sort of disappeared from the tube.

Jaclyn starred in many television and lifetime movies:


2000 Navigating the Heart (TV Movie)
Edith Iglauer

1999 Three Secrets (TV Movie)
Diane

1999 Free Fall
Renee Brennan

1998 Before He Wakes (TV Movie)
Bridget Smith Michaels

1997 Married to a Stranger (TV Movie)
Megan Potter

1996 My Very Best Friend (TV Movie)
Dana

1994 Family Album (TV Movie)
Faye Price Thayer

1994 Cries Unheard: The Donna Yaklich Story (TV Movie)
Donna Yaklich

1992 Love Can Be Murder (TV Movie)
Elizabeth Bentley

1992 Nightmare in the Daylight (TV Movie)
Megan Lambert

1992 In the Arms of a Killer (TV Movie)
Maria Quinn

1991 The Rape of Doctor Willis (TV Movie)
Kate Willis

1991 Lies Before Kisses (TV Movie)
Elaine Sanders

1990 Kaleidoscope (TV Movie)
Hilary Walker

1989-1990 Christine Cromwell (TV Series)
Christine Cromwell
- Only the Good Die Young (1990) ... Christine Cromwell

- In Vino Veritas (1990) ... Christine Cromwell

- Easy Come, Easy Go (1989) ... Christine Cromwell

- Things That Go Bump in the Night (1989) ... Christine Cromwell

1989 Settle the Score (TV Movie)
Katherine Whately

1988 The Bourne Identity (TV Mini-Series)
Marie St. Jacques

1988 Windmills of the Gods (TV Movie)
Mary Ashley

1986 Rage of Angels: The Story Continues (TV Movie)
Jennifer Parker

1985 Déjà Vu
Brooke / Maggie

1985 Florence Nightingale (TV Movie)
Florence Nightingale

1984 The Night They Saved Christmas (TV Movie)
Claudia Baldwin

1984 George Washington (TV Mini-Series)
Sally Fairfax
- Episode #1.3 (1984) ... Sally Fairfax

- Episode #1.2 (1984) ... Sally Fairfax

- Episode #1.1 (1984) ... Sally Fairfax

1984 Sentimental Journey (TV Movie)
Julie Ross-Gardner

1983 Rage of Angels (TV Movie)
Jennifer Parker

1981 Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy (TV Movie)
Jacqueline Kennedy

I also wonder what the pay scale was the actresses. Kate had the most tv exposure prior to Charlies Angels. Dark Shadows, and I think the Rookies lasted 4 years. Jaclyn and Farrah were in tv commercials. I do remember the Breck girl ad with Jaclyn. The only know tv acting spot that I know of for Farrah was a segment on I dream of Jeannie.

I also wonder what the pay scale was the actresses. Kate had the most tv exposure prior to Charlies Angels. Dark Shadows, and I think the Rookies lasted 4 years. Jaclyn and Farrah were in tv commercials. I do remember the Breck girl ad with Jaclyn. The only know tv acting spot that I know of for Farrah was a segment on I dream of Jeannie.

Don't know what the girls got paid for their early commercials, but the pay rate on CA was not even. Kate started at $10,000 a week and Farrah and Jackie received $5000 a week. Before she left, Kate made $30,000 a week. Jackie and Cheryl's salary went up too, but not as much as Kate's did. When Farrah came back for her 5-6 guest appearances, she received a round figure of $250,000. I have no idea what Shelley Hack and Tanya Roberts made.

Farrah's Ultrabrite commercial...

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Jackie's Breck commercial...

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Jaclyn starred in many television and lifetime movies:


2000 Navigating the Heart (TV Movie)
Edith Iglauer

1999 Three Secrets (TV Movie)
Diane

1999 Free Fall
Renee Brennan

1998 Before He Wakes (TV Movie)
Bridget Smith Michaels

1997 Married to a Stranger (TV Movie)
Megan Potter

1996 My Very Best Friend (TV Movie)
Dana

1994 Family Album (TV Movie)
Faye Price Thayer

1994 Cries Unheard: The Donna Yaklich Story (TV Movie)
Donna Yaklich

1992 Love Can Be Murder (TV Movie)
Elizabeth Bentley

1992 Nightmare in the Daylight (TV Movie)
Megan Lambert

1992 In the Arms of a Killer (TV Movie)
Maria Quinn

1991 The Rape of Doctor Willis (TV Movie)
Kate Willis

1991 Lies Before Kisses (TV Movie)
Elaine Sanders

1990 Kaleidoscope (TV Movie)
Hilary Walker

1989-1990 Christine Cromwell (TV Series)
Christine Cromwell
- Only the Good Die Young (1990) ... Christine Cromwell

- In Vino Veritas (1990) ... Christine Cromwell

- Easy Come, Easy Go (1989) ... Christine Cromwell

- Things That Go Bump in the Night (1989) ... Christine Cromwell

1989 Settle the Score (TV Movie)
Katherine Whately

1988 The Bourne Identity (TV Mini-Series)
Marie St. Jacques

1988 Windmills of the Gods (TV Movie)
Mary Ashley

1986 Rage of Angels: The Story Continues (TV Movie)
Jennifer Parker

1985 Déjà Vu
Brooke / Maggie

1985 Florence Nightingale (TV Movie)
Florence Nightingale

1984 The Night They Saved Christmas (TV Movie)
Claudia Baldwin

1984 George Washington (TV Mini-Series)
Sally Fairfax
- Episode #1.3 (1984) ... Sally Fairfax

- Episode #1.2 (1984) ... Sally Fairfax

- Episode #1.1 (1984) ... Sally Fairfax

1984 Sentimental Journey (TV Movie)
Julie Ross-Gardner

1983 Rage of Angels (TV Movie)
Jennifer Parker

1981 Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy (TV Movie)
Jacqueline Kennedy

Good point. And Cheryl Ladd also starred in many television, movies, and mini-series.

Good point. And Cheryl Ladd also starred in many television, movies, and mini-series.

Some of Jaclyn's movies were great. If you haven't seen Christine Cromwell, it was really good and I highly recommend it.

Cheryl and Kate worked together several years before Charlie's Angels; they were both featured in the classic TV Movie of the Week SATAN's SCHOOL FOR GIRLS in 1973.

Cheryl and Kate worked together several years before Charlie's Angels; they were both featured in the classic TV Movie of the Week SATAN's SCHOOL FOR GIRLS in 1973.

Here they are...

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Kate hating Cheryl here!

Here they are...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eaRg2tiBVQE/UArEQMpkVqI/AAAAAAABM2E/Z7JQlqC3mos/s400/Satans%2BSkool%2BFor%2BGirls%2B136.jpg



I LOVED Satan's school for girls!!!! ;) Than wasn't there a remake where Kate played a teacher, probably 1990's early 2000's? I kind of remember that on Lifetime TV?? ;)

I LOVED Satan's school for girls!!!! ;) Than wasn't there a remake where Kate played a teacher, probably 1990's early 2000's? I kind of remember that on Lifetime TV?? ;)

It was remade in 2000. Kate was a student in the original (1973), but now she's the Dean of the school. I never thought much of Shannon Doherty though. IMO, the original movie was better.

Farrah was in lots of stuff, including a couple Jeannie's and a Partridge Family. She also had a supporting role in a TV movie called The Feminist and the Fuzz. She played a Playboy bunny, and no young male who saw her will ever forget it.


Another acting job that Farrah had before CA was that she had a recurring role as David Janssen's girlfriend on the private eye show "Harry O". Janssen played an ex cop in his late 40's who was barely making a living as a PI and lived in a small shack by the beach in California (First San Diego, but later LA). Farrah was an airline stewardess (as they called them back then) and lived with a roommate next door.

It was remade in 2000. Kate was a student in the original (1973), but now she's the Dean of the school. I never thought much of Shannon Doherty though. IMO, the original movie was better.


Oh yeah. Shannon Doherty was in it. ;)

The original was a lot better of course. I'd really like to see it again! ;)

Here they are...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eaRg2tiBVQE/UArEQMpkVqI/AAAAAAABM2E/Z7JQlqC3mos/s400/Satans%2BSkool%2BFor%2BGirls%2B136.jpg


Wow. Good find!

How did Jaclyn and Cheryl treat Shelley Hack and Tanya Roberts?

How did Jaclyn and Cheryl treat Shelley Hack and Tanya Roberts?

I never read about any problems. I'm pretty sure everyone got along well. Judging by their easy going personalities, I cannot picture Jackie or Cheryl ever mistreating anyone.

Cheryl's first episode is on Cozi right now. I think this mystery can be cleared up just by watching the episode with the sound turned down.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

I guess he's talking about Kate's mannerisms and body language towards Cheryl, but I never noticed anything out of the ordinary.

If no one let on that Kate did not like Cheryl, they public would never know. They seemed to get along fine when the cameras were rolling.

It seemed to many viewers, Cheryl/Kris took over Kate/Sabrina's role as the team leader. Therefore, Kris (who was previously, the cute, bubbly, warm and slightly nervous rookie) took on a more serious, bossy, take charge, almost icy demeanor. It would've logically made more sense for Jaclyn/Kelly to become the "leader" (being that she was the last remaining original Angel) by the fourth season (https://moviechat.org/tt0073972/Charlies-Angels/58c731575ec57f0478f6f234/The-fourth-season), but Jaclyn Smith by her own admission, started phoning in her performances. She was only still there because she had a contract to honor.

It seemed to many viewers, Cheryl/Kris took over Kate/Sabrina's role as the team leader. Therefore, Kris (who was previously, the cute, bubbly, warm and slightly nervous rookie) took on a more serious, bossy, take charge, almost icy demeanor. It would've logically made more sense for Jaclyn/Jill to become the "leader" (being that she was the last remaining original Angel) by the fourth season (https://moviechat.org/tt0073972/Charlies-Angels/58c731575ec57f0478f6f234/The-fourth-season), Jaclyn Smith by her own admission, started phoning in her performances. She was only still there because she had a contract to honor.

You sure you're not confusing all this with Suzanne Somers and Three's Company?

You sure you're not confusing all this with Suzanne Somers and Three's Company?

:lol:

You sure you're not confusing all this with Suzanne Somers and Three's Company?

What does "phoning it in" mean? (https://www.quora.com/What-does-phoning-it-in-mean/answer/Donna-F-Hammett)

What does "phoning it in" mean? (https://www.quora.com/What-does-phoning-it-in-mean/answer/Donna-F-Hammett)

Of course I know what it means, but I simply couldn't resist making that joke. After the Chrissy character took off, Suzanne demanded a ridiculous salary increase. The studio executives basically black-balled her.

At the beginning of the fifth season in 1980, Somers demanded a hefty salary raise from $30,000 to $150,000 an episode and 10 percent ownership of the show's profit. Those close to the situation suggested that Somers' rebellion was due to husband Hamel's influences. When ABC denied her request, she boycotted the second and fourth shows of the season, due to excuses such as a broken rib. She finished the remaining season on her contract, but her role was decreased to 60 seconds per episode (her character only appearing in the episode's closing tag in which she calls the trio's apartment from her parents' home).

I thought the joke was hilarious.

Poor Suzanne Somers. Almost forty years later, and people are still making jokes about the Three's Company spat.

I thought the joke was hilarious.

Poor Suzanne Somers. Almost forty years later, and people are still making jokes about the Three's Company spat.


I remember it quite clearly. She goes from one of the most popular people on tv, but then gets relegated to 'Thigh Master' queen. At least she got paid. To her credit, Suzanne was probably worth more than she was getting paid, but her manager husband got greedy. Those studio execs (and media) can make you or break you. Contracts are legally binding documents. Some actors heads get too big. Farrah also broke her contract and received lots of bad media coverage about it, but it worked out much better for her.

I have read that Kate Jackson was generally a difficult person to get along with. According to the website AllRovi (formerly AllMovie), whereas Jaclyn Smith was frequently cited as the nicest co-worker in Hollywood by colleagues (including support and technical personnel like make-up artists, stage hands, camera operators, etc), on the other hand Kate Jackson was frequently said to be among the most unpleasant to work with, especially for those who were lower down in the pecking order.

Perhaps the problem between Kate and Cheryl is simply rooted in Kate Jacksons personality and temperament.

Nolan Miller (https://interviews.televisionacademy.com/interviews/nolan-miller?clip=77645#interview-clips), who was the costume designer said that Kate Jackson ran very hot and cold. Almost in an unbalanced way. For instance, they really started hating each other at one point during the series (maybe partially because she never wanted to come in for wardrobe fittings) and Jackson suddenly invited him on a trip to Hawaii over a long weekend. He said, "I don't even want to TALK to you, let alone go on a VACATION with you!"

The stupidity of the writing must have begun to grate on her over time, plus the show had been conceived -- at least in her eyes -- as a starring vehicle for herself. Bare in mind, that Kate Jackson did initially make twice what Farrah Fawcett and Jaclyn Smith were making, $10,000 a week vs. $5,000. She was probably under the impression that because she looked like a “serious actress” (mousy, flat chested), that she could somehow convince the public that she was a serious actress.

I wonder if Cheryl Ladd has ever been asked or contemplated writing an autobiography/her memoirs. I say this because she along with Jaclyn Smith has the most perspective from working on Charlie's Angels. They are the only two (along with the late David Doyle and to a lesser extent, John Forsythe) to have worked with everybody (Kate Jackson, Farrah Fawcett, Shelley Hack, and Tanya Roberts). Cheryl's own personal perspective is even more intriguing because she was literally and figuratively, a rookie.

I wonder if Cheryl Ladd has ever been asked or contemplated writing an autobiography/her memoirs. I say this because she along with Jaclyn Smith has the most perspective from working on Charlie's Angels. They are the only two (along with the late David Doyle and to a lesser extent, John Forsythe) to have worked with everybody (Kate Jackson, Farrah Fawcett, Shelley Hack, and Tanya Roberts). Cheryl's own personal perspective is even more intriguing because she was literally and figuratively, a rookie.

I'd def buy that book. It doesn't appear that Kate's book will ever get done.

I wonder if Cheryl would ever admit to her affair with Edward J. Lakso while she was still married?

Nolan Miller (https://interviews.televisionacademy.com/interviews/nolan-miller?clip=77645#interview-clips), who was the costume designer said that Kate Jackson ran very hot and cold. Almost in an unbalanced way. For instance, they really started hating each other at one point during the series (maybe partially because she never wanted to come in for wardrobe fittings) and Jackson suddenly invited him on a trip to Hawaii over a long weekend. He said, "I don't even want to TALK to you, let alone go on a VACATION with you!"

The stupidity of the writing must have begun to grate on her over time, plus the show had been conceived -- at least in her eyes -- as a starring vehicle for herself. Bare in mind, that Kate Jackson did initially make twice what Farrah Fawcett and Jaclyn Smith were making, $10,000 a week vs. $5,000. She was probably under the impression that because she looked like a “serious actress” (mousy, flat chested), that she could somehow convince the public that she was a serious actress.

Ouch.

During an interview on a CA documentary, Nolan Miller said Kate was "neurotic".

I'd def buy that book. It doesn't appear that Kate's book will ever get done.

I wonder if Cheryl would ever admit to her affair with Edward J. Lakso while she was still married?

Cheryl was involved with the producer? Really? I never heard that before. Where did you read that?

I remember it quite clearly. She [Suzanne Somers] goes from one of the most popular people on tv, but then gets relegated to 'Thigh Master' queen.

She also starred as Carol Foster-Lambert on Step By Step in the 1990s.

I was wondering why there would be such animosity on a set that produced such a well-liked and successful show, so I asked my girlfriend what she thought the cause could be. She said it was most likely because when there are that many attractive women sharing the spotlight, they can be catty, spiteful and jealous of one another and basically haters. I believe it.

As much as we find it disheartening to find out that actors on our favorite shows didn't get along, it's a fact of life. TV and movie sets are workplaces and not everybody gets along; it's reality.

It seems a shame that Kate didn't seem to like Cheryl, because Cheryl always did come off as sweet, positive, and iMO, sexy. She was my favorite. I was upset when Farrah left, but once I saw Cheryl, I knew it would be alright.