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James28
09-16-2013, 10:08 PM
The official sitcomsOnline Thread about the Cancellations and Endings of the 2013-14 Network TV Season. Early predictions can be based on which shows will be permanently gone from new episodes after this season, which new series premiered to mediocre (or abysmal) ratings, and which new shows anyone here can't possibly imagine doing well.

Confirmed to end their original runs during the 2013-14 season are:

How I Met Your Mother (CBS) - 9 seasons

Nikita (CW) - 4 seasons

icecream
09-17-2013, 01:13 AM
my picks for the first 5 cancellations
1. Dads- replaced with Raising Hope
2. We Are Men- replaced with Mike & Molly
3. Betrayal
4. Trophy Wife- replaced with Suburgatory
5. Ironside

comedyfreak
09-17-2013, 12:41 PM
My Picks for cancellations:

Ironside
Betrayal
Hostages

tlc38tlc38
09-18-2013, 11:15 AM
I may be in the minority here but I think "The Michael J. Fox Show" is going to bomb big time.

"Dads", "The Goldbergs", "Trophy Wife", "Lucky 7", "Back in the Game", and "Welcome to the Family" will also flop.

I also think this will be "Last Man Standing"'s last season.

70s show watcher
09-18-2013, 04:49 PM
my picks for the first 5 cancellations
1. Dads- replaced with Raising Hope
2. We Are Men- replaced with Mike & Molly
3. Betrayal
4. Trophy Wife- replaced with Suburgatory
5. Ironsidei watched dads last night and while i did not find it truly awful i didnt think that it was very good ether

James28
09-19-2013, 02:08 AM
If I had a choice for a veteran series which will end up having a "series finale" at the end of the season, it would be "Two and a Half Men". I hope its ratings decline this season.

EmoJoe
09-19-2013, 05:32 PM
My pick for first cancelled is We Are Men on CBS. But I also wouldn't be surprised to see Ironside, Lucky 7, or Welcome to the Family get it. Sadly, I think Dads will stick around for a while because of all of the hype around how awful it is, but that'll fade fast and I see it gone by Thanksgiving.

As for returning shows, there's a bunch of marginal sophomore shows that I think are in trouble - namely The Mindy Project, Revolution, The Carrie Diaries, and Beauty and the Beast. I could see this being Two and a Half Men's final season too, but since CBS is already losing How I Met Your Mother this year, they might want to keep it around for one more season. I also wouldn't be completely surprised if Bones announced this was their final season, especially if FOX's others new drama wind up doing well (things look good for Sleepy Hollow so far).

king of comedy
09-19-2013, 05:53 PM
My pick for first cancelled is We Are Men on CBS. But I also wouldn't be surprised to see Ironside, Lucky 7, or Welcome to the Family get it. Sadly, I think Dads will stick around for a while because of all of the hype around how awful it is, but that'll fade fast and I see it gone by Thanksgiving.

As for returning shows, there's a bunch of marginal sophomore shows that I think are in trouble - namely The Mindy Project, Revolution, The Carrie Diaries, and Beauty and the Beast. I could see this being Two and a Half Men's final season too, but since CBS is already losing How I Met Your Mother this year, they might want to keep it around for one more season. I also wouldn't be completely surprised if Bones announced this was their final season, especially if FOX's others new drama wind up doing well (things look good for Sleepy Hollow so far).
I taped Sleepy Hollow and watched it. It was really good. I'm hopefully wishing for Dads to go.

James28
09-19-2013, 09:14 PM
I could see this being Two and a Half Men's final season too, but since CBS is already losing How I Met Your Mother this year, they might want to keep it around for one more season.

It is possible CBS can manage to lose both after this season, with all the new comedies waiting to be pushed to the top, like Mom and The Crazy Ones. If CBS had to cancel a drama after the season, it'll probably be The Mentalist.

Also, the thought of losing Bones (and probably Glee, but that's already renewed through next season) as a first-run series makes me think about The Simpsons retiring as a first-run series, which will probably be after next season (2014-15).

shotzette
09-19-2013, 09:29 PM
I taped Sleepy Hollow and watched it. It was really good. I'm hopefully wishing for Dads to go.

I like Sleepy Hollow, and I do admit laughing out loud a Dads. I know it's not Moliere, but I found Seth Green, Giovanni Ribisi, and Martin Mull to be funny. I sort of hope that The New Girl will be the show to be axed. I can't stand Zooey Deschanel's character!

EmoJoe
09-19-2013, 11:55 PM
New Girl is Fox's highest-rated comedy and it only needs one more season for syndication, so...

Mr. Television
09-20-2013, 10:14 AM
It is possible CBS can manage to lose both after this season, with all the new comedies waiting to be pushed to the top, like Mom and The Crazy Ones. If CBS had to cancel a drama after the season, it'll probably be The Mentalist.

Also, the thought of losing Bones (and probably Glee, but that's already renewed through next season) as a first-run series makes me think about The Simpsons retiring as a first-run series, which will probably be after next season (2014-15).
The Mentalist is finally going to resolve the Red John storyline and Rigsby and Van Pelt or leaving later in the season so it looks like it could possibly be ending soon.

James
09-20-2013, 01:06 PM
For returning shows:

"American Dad"
"The Big Bang Theory"
"The Cleveland Show"
"Family Guy"
"Modern Family"
"The Simpsons"
"Two and a Half Men"

For new shows:

"Dads"
"The Goldbergs"
"Mom"
"Sean Saves The World"
"We Are Men"
"Welcome To The Family"

James28
09-20-2013, 04:01 PM
^^The Big Bang Theory ain't gonna get cancelled anytime soon, and neither is Modern Family.

benjamoon
09-21-2013, 01:19 AM
For returning shows:

"American Dad"
"The Big Bang Theory"
"The Cleveland Show"
"Family Guy"
"Modern Family"
"The Simpsons"
"Two and a Half Men"

For new shows:

"Dads"
"The Goldbergs"
"Mom"
"Sean Saves The World"
"We Are Men"
"Welcome To The Family"

Well first of all The Cleveland Show was already cancelled...

EmoJoe
09-21-2013, 03:35 AM
And American Dad was already renewed through next season, to air on TBS.

yankeesrj12
09-21-2013, 04:43 PM
The Mentalist is finally going to resolve the Red John storyline and Rigsby and Van Pelt or leaving later in the season so it looks like it could possibly be ending soon.
With two main cast-members leaving, that could bring the cost down, giving CBS possible incentive to keep the show around another season.

Mr. Television
09-21-2013, 06:03 PM
With two main cast-members leaving, that could bring the cost down, giving CBS possible incentive to keep the show around another season.
It could be but I don't know if I'll stay around. I'm a big fan and love the show but sometimes it's best to go out on top.

noveel
09-21-2013, 11:55 PM
Well first of all The Cleveland Show was already cancelled...

not officially cancelled, just not in production

EmoJoe
09-22-2013, 02:40 AM
The Cleveland Show was cancelled. It wasn't on Fox's line-up this year and no other network picked it up, so...yeah.

As for The Mentalist, the ratings were pretty bad last year. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it ended this season.

noveel
09-23-2013, 06:39 AM
The Cleveland Show was cancelled. It wasn't on Fox's line-up this year and no other network picked it up, so...yeah.


it might come back someday on Adult Swim or TBS

king of comedy
09-23-2013, 07:56 AM
it might come back someday on Adult Swim or TBS
No. It's gone for good. Cleveland is moving back to Quahog. So...no.

EmoJoe
09-23-2013, 11:38 AM
it might come back someday on Adult Swim or TBS
I mean, maybe. I doubt it, but you never know. Still, as of now, it's cancelled. Family Guy and Futurama and Arrested Development were still cancelled for the years the were off the air, even if they eventually came back.

Ryan Chamberlain
09-23-2013, 05:26 PM
I think CSI NY will go after this season. Along with Castle. (IMO. It shark jumped last year anyways) also, Two and A Half Men.

For new series.

Dads
Welcome To The Family
Mom

I'm hoping Ironside, The Blacklist, and The Michael J Fox show make it to second season because they are the first new TV shows I've been interested in for a long time.

king of comedy
09-23-2013, 05:51 PM
I think CSI NY will go after this season. Along with Castle. (IMO. It shark jumped last year anyways) also, Two and A Half Men.

For new series.

Dads
Welcome To The Family
Mom

I'm hoping Ironside, The Blacklist, and The Michael J Fox show make it to second season because they are the first new TV shows I've been interested in for a long time.
CSI NY was cancelled and isn't on the schedule.

noveel
09-23-2013, 07:22 PM
No. It's gone for good. Cleveland is moving back to Quahog. So...no.

source?

Ryan Chamberlain
09-23-2013, 08:21 PM
CSI NY was cancelled and isn't on the schedule.

Oh, thanks for telling me. I thought that was CSI: Miami that got canned.

EmoJoe
09-23-2013, 09:59 PM
CSI: New York was cancelled last year and CSI: Miami the year before. The original recipe is the only one left (and still doing pretty well, actually).

Ryan Chamberlain
09-23-2013, 10:12 PM
Thanks. See, that's how much I keep up with current TV shows. LOL. :D

I tried watching The Black List. I don't see where it's a hit. So boring. I switched the channel 10 mins in.

So, I'm thinking it'll be canned.

ThomasE
09-23-2013, 11:24 PM
If I had a choice for a veteran series which will end up having a "series finale" at the end of the season, it would be "Two and a Half Men". I hope its ratings decline this season.


I wanted the show to get at least a twelfth season so the Charlie Sheen Ashton Kutcher shows could be divided in syndication but this season might be the nail in the coffin.

James28
09-24-2013, 12:29 PM
One new show from this season that I don't see being the next long running series is CBS's Hostages. Why I don't see this being a long-runner?: For story reasons (It would be difficult to drag out its premise for several seasons), and because the series premiere got just a 1.8 in the demo and just 7.5 million viewers.

MrCleveland
09-24-2013, 01:23 PM
it might come back someday on Adult Swim or TBS

"The Cleveland Show" is already syndicated, but yeah...it could find new breath on TBS or Adult Swim.

Look at the Tyler Perry Comedies, they had newer shows on TBS (I think)!

But I feel that "Dads" may be off soon, with the controversial Pilot Episode it may lose audience.

loaferman
09-24-2013, 04:09 PM
I don't like the idea of bringing back a classic like "Ironside" then making drastic changes on top of it. "Ironside was Raymond Burr just like Jim Rockford was James Garner, end of story. Create new shows.

Mr. Television
09-24-2013, 07:32 PM
I don't like the idea of bringing back a classic like "Ironside" then making drastic changes on top of it. "Ironside was Raymond Burr just like Jim Rockford was James Garner, end of story. Create new shows.
It is a new show. All they are doing is using Robert Ironside's name and making him a cripple. Everything else is brand new. I doubt it will be any good. Most remakes are awful.

Ryan Chamberlain
09-24-2013, 11:05 PM
I have hope for Ironside. I think it's gonna go over well like the Hawaii Five-0 remake.

Maybe it's because I love Blair Underwood. I don't know.

James28
09-24-2013, 11:07 PM
Some of the new dramas that ABC are introducing this upcoming season (such as Betrayal) are designed as "Limited Series", with around 12 episodes per season. I wonder if this means that if it's a so-called "Limited Series", it will automatically be cancelled/end after only one season, regardless of ratings or reviews.

Ryan Chamberlain
09-24-2013, 11:11 PM
I think Betrayal is gonna be a fail (hey, that rhymes!)

It looks kinda skanky. IMO.

benjamoon
09-24-2013, 11:32 PM
Some of the new dramas that ABC are introducing this upcoming season (such as Betrayal) are designed as "Limited Series", with around 12 episodes per season. I wonder if this means that if it's a so-called "Limited Series", it will automatically be cancelled/end after only one season, regardless of ratings or reviews.

Ain't no such thing. If it does really well, it will find a way to get another season (look at Under the Dome). That being said, some of these "limited series" like Betrayal and (in light of last night's ratings) Hostages will end up being just that.

James28
09-24-2013, 11:39 PM
Ain't no such thing. If it does really well, it will find a way to get another season (look at Under the Dome). That being said, some of these "limited series" like Betrayal and (in light of last night's ratings) Hostages will end up being just that.

Under the Dome airs during the Summer. We're talking about the so-called "Limited Series" that will air during either half of the regular TV season.

Tubehead
09-24-2013, 11:58 PM
acutely hostages has 13 to 15 episode's it not soussped to last too long

Tubehead
09-24-2013, 11:59 PM
did any one catch Agents of shield? it came on tonight it rocked i hope it stays on the air long enough

benjamoon
09-25-2013, 12:16 AM
Under the Dome airs during the Summer. We're talking about the so-called "Limited Series" that will air during either half of the regular TV season.

That has nothing to do with what I was saying... Under the Dome was supposed to be a limited series then it did well and got a second season for next summer. Same thing with these limited series. If Betrayal does well, it will certainly get a second season. Now IMO the chances of it doing well are not good but if it did, it would not just end after 15 episodes or whatever

James28
09-25-2013, 12:25 AM
I may wind up confusing these new "limited series" with miniseries. These series are probably supposed to have abbreviated seasons?

Ryan Chamberlain
09-25-2013, 12:37 AM
James. I think they are supposed to follow the "telenova" format that they use in Latin America.

loaferman
09-25-2013, 10:25 AM
It is a new show. All they are doing is using Robert Ironside's name and making him a cripple. Everything else is brand new. I doubt it will be any good. Most remakes are awful.
I guess it is just me because I'm getting older, but certain roles of that era are iconic to me, I mentioned Jim Rockford and James Garner, same goes for Columbo - can't imagine anyone but Peter Falk in the role. I'm sure younger people don't have this to consider. I'd rather see an all new detective show that to see some other actor playing Ironside, Columbo, or Rockford.

tlc38tlc38
09-25-2013, 10:38 AM
I guess it is just me because I'm getting older, but certain roles of that era are iconic to me, I mentioned Jim Rockford and James Garner, same goes for Columbo - can't imagine anyone but Peter Falk in the role. I'm sure younger people don't have this to consider. I'd rather see an all new detective show that to see some other actor playing Ironside, Columbo, or Rockford.
I agree 100% with you. Iconic roles should be left alone. Other examples are Ben Matlock and Jessica Fletcher. I'd rather watch a reunion movie or special. Sadly, this will never happen with Matlock but we still have hope for Murder, She Wrote...Jessica needs to dust off her typewriter (or iPad now) and give us a new murder mystery!

Mr. Television
09-25-2013, 11:20 AM
I guess it is just me because I'm getting older, but certain roles of that era are iconic to me, I mentioned Jim Rockford and James Garner, same goes for Columbo - can't imagine anyone but Peter Falk in the role. I'm sure younger people don't have this to consider. I'd rather see an all new detective show that to see some other actor playing Ironside, Columbo, or Rockford.
I agree with you. The only remake that I like is Hawaii Five-O and it's so different from the original, it's like a new show. I don't know why they used Ironside anyway. Most of the younger generation probably doesn't even know who that is.

king of comedy
09-25-2013, 04:41 PM
did any one catch Agents of shield? it came on tonight it rocked i hope it stays on the air long enough
I did and it rocked!! I also hope it stays on.

Ryan Chamberlain
09-25-2013, 06:21 PM
Anyone catch The Goldbergs last night? I was planning on watching it. But, stayed out talking to the neighbors too late and missed it.

Mr. Television
09-25-2013, 06:25 PM
I did and it rocked!! I also hope it stays on.
Can you follow the show if you've never seen the theatrical movies?

EmoJoe
09-25-2013, 11:14 PM
The Goldbergs looks unappealing to me, but I saw Trophy Wife and liked it quite a bit. I'm liking Brooklyn Nine-Nine a lot, too. So far, this is looking like a better year for comedy than last season, where I really only enjoyed Ben and Kate. Hopefully the good shows make it through the year, though.

James28
09-26-2013, 01:12 AM
ABC's Lucky 7 (more like Unlucky 7) looks boring, is a bomb right out of the gate, and can very easily be the first cancellation of the season.

loaferman
09-26-2013, 09:10 AM
I agree 100% with you. Iconic roles should be left alone. Other examples are Ben Matlock and Jessica Fletcher. I'd rather watch a reunion movie or special. Sadly, this will never happen with Matlock but we still have hope for Murder, She Wrote...Jessica needs to dust off her typewriter (or iPad now) and give us a new murder mystery!
Since most younger people have probably never seen the originals, I don't see what reason there was to not just make a new detective show. Are they just plain out of ideas? The "Ironisde" name means nothing to young viewers and recasting the part is not going to make a lot of older viewers happy. It must just be a lack of original ideas. When they announced that "remake" of the Rockford Files with a young actor it actually made me angry. Make a new detective show for goodness sakes.

robyrob
09-26-2013, 10:47 AM
everything in Hollywood is a remake - they just have more explosions and twerking now.

irehtman
09-26-2013, 10:52 AM
Yeah, Dads and We Are Men are going to get axed, Two And A Half Men, How I Met Your Mother and Raising Hope is about to end their series by the end of this season.

The Crazy Ones and Enlisted might be next to get axed by the end of this season.

Brooklyn Nine-Nine is doing okay, but it will do better if it moves to Thursday nights instead.

lucy&vivfan
09-26-2013, 02:16 PM
I saw "Dads". That has to be the worst sitcom...how did that even get on the air?

70s show watcher
09-26-2013, 07:15 PM
I saw "Dads". That has to be the worst sitcom...how did that even get on the air?most likley because of seth macfarlane i dont really hate the show but its not his best work thats for sure

James28
10-04-2013, 03:48 PM
It's offical: Lucky 7 is FIRED by ABC due to low ratings after 2 episodes. (1.3 in the 18-49 demo in first episode, and a paltry 0.7 rating the next.) Production will shut down next week.

Lucky 7 is the first axing of the Sochi Olympics season.

Ryan Chamberlain
10-04-2013, 04:31 PM
Totally not surprised. That show looked horrible.

UMFaninMD
10-04-2013, 06:59 PM
Not surprised either, I thought it would be axed from the previews. I don't know how they could maintain constant drama around a group of lottery winners week after week.

EmoJoe
10-05-2013, 01:39 AM
Not surprising. I bet We Are Men is next! Or maybe Welcome to the Family.

McGillicuddy
10-08-2013, 01:37 PM
Anyone catch The Goldbergs last night? I was planning on watching it. But, stayed out talking to the neighbors too late and missed it.

That looks appealing. It takes place in the'80's so it should be good.

McGillicuddy
10-08-2013, 01:39 PM
It's offical: Lucky 7 is FIRED by ABC due to low ratings after 2 episodes. (1.3 in the 18-49 demo in first episode, and a paltry 0.7 rating the next.) Production will shut down next week.

Lucky 7 is the first axing of the Sochi Olympics season.
I wonder if it'll get a dvd release.:lol:

irehtman
10-09-2013, 05:29 PM
Dads and We Are Men are going to be next.

James28
10-09-2013, 09:07 PM
"We Are Men"? More like "We Are FIRED"!

CBS has cancelled and pulled from the schedule the single-camera comedy We Are Men after just two original airings. Tony Shalhoub is on the unemployment line. The fourth season of Mike & Molly is ready to take over on 4 November, occupying the 9:00 eastern timeslot with 2 Broke Girls moving to 8:30.

irehtman
10-09-2013, 09:25 PM
I knew the next victim is going to be We Are Men. But I hope the next one should be Dads, IMO.

EmoJoe
10-09-2013, 10:53 PM
"We Are Men"? More like "We Are FIRED"!

CBS has cancelled and pulled from the schedule the single-camera comedy We Are Men after just two original airings. Tony Shalhoub is on the unemployment line. The fourth season of Mike & Molly is ready to take over on 4 November, occupying the 9:00 eastern timeslot with 2 Broke Girls moving to 8:30.
CALLED IT!

I bet Welcome to the Family is next.

Mr. Television
10-09-2013, 10:58 PM
CALLED IT!

I bet Welcome to the Family is next.
I think we could pick these shows better than those network executives. Everyone knew these shows would fail before they even aired. lol

robyrob
10-09-2013, 11:00 PM
i didn't think that We Are Men was that bad, but I am not too upset about it getting cancelled because now we get Mike and Molly back even sooner.

EmoJoe
10-10-2013, 12:24 AM
That's a rough slot for Mike and Molly. If 2 Broke Girls struggled there, I can't imagine M&M doing much better (which was pulling numbers lower than 2BG's current numbers in a better timeslot last spring).

It looks very much like they're throwing both Mike & Molly and Mom to the wolves to protect 2 Broke Girls, probably because they need it for at least one more season for syndication.

cherryade
10-10-2013, 01:43 AM
Betrayal, Dads, Hostages, Ironside, Sean Saves the World and Welcome to the Family could all potentially be pulled by the end of next week.

McGillicuddy
10-10-2013, 01:39 PM
Was Mike & Molly being saved for mid-season?

lucy&vivfan
10-10-2013, 01:42 PM
How does 2 Broke Girls survive??? The show is horrible.

lucy&vivfan
10-10-2013, 01:43 PM
Betrayal, Dads, Hostages, Ironside, Sean Saves the World and Welcome to the Family could all potentially be pulled by the end of next week.

Really? Sean Saves the World?? NBC hyped that show all over the place. Surprised it isn't doing better. Maybe if it didn't have Sean Hayes and Linda Lavin, then it would be good. ;)

yankeesrj12
10-10-2013, 03:14 PM
That's a rough slot for Mike and Molly. If 2 Broke Girls struggled there, I can't imagine M&M doing much better (which was pulling numbers lower than 2BG's current numbers in a better timeslot last spring).

It looks very much like they're throwing both Mike & Molly and Mom to the wolves to protect 2 Broke Girls, probably because they need it for at least one more season for syndication.
I think CBS made really good changes to their Monday lineup.

The 830 timeslot has been a struggle for the network. 2 Broke Girls has been able to do at least 2.2-2.4 without much of a lead in, so moving it to 830, with the help of How I Met Your Mother, should allow 2 Broke Girls to do well. Even if it only brings the 2.2 demo over, it is an improvement over past timeslot occupants.

Three weeks of The Big Bang Theory at 9 will help bring the entire night up, while giving newbie Mom a chance to succeed. Mom will undoubtedly have its best ratings in those three weeks. If it can find new viewers, an increase of 0.2-0.3 is likely when The Big Bang Theory leaves.

Mike and Molly is no anchor, but can it really do all that worse than 2 Broke Girls?

I applaud CBS for trying and not simply plugging Mike and Molly at 830. After all, what would that really have done for their overall lineup? With the pieces they have, I think they vastly improved over the lineup that aired on the night for two weeks.

tlc38tlc38
10-10-2013, 03:26 PM
How does 2 Broke Girls survive??? The show is horrible.
2BG is my favorite current show! I guess it's people like me that keep it going...thankfully!

mets82
10-10-2013, 03:36 PM
Havent watched too much of the new shows. I will say We Are Men getting axed doesnt surprise me based on previews that I saw. I dont think The Goldbergs looks too promising at least to me. Very surprised to hear the Micheal J. Fox show got trounced by the Crazy Ones. Thought it would be a little closer in the ratings.

EmoJoe
10-10-2013, 09:01 PM
I think CBS made really good changes to their Monday lineup.

The 830 timeslot has been a struggle for the network. 2 Broke Girls has been able to do at least 2.2-2.4 without much of a lead in, so moving it to 830, with the help of How I Met Your Mother, should allow 2 Broke Girls to do well. Even if it only brings the 2.2 demo over, it is an improvement over past timeslot occupants.

Three weeks of The Big Bang Theory at 9 will help bring the entire night up, while giving newbie Mom a chance to succeed. Mom will undoubtedly have its best ratings in those three weeks. If it can find new viewers, an increase of 0.2-0.3 is likely when The Big Bang Theory leaves.

Mike and Molly is no anchor, but can it really do all that worse than 2 Broke Girls?

I applaud CBS for trying and not simply plugging Mike and Molly at 830. After all, what would that really have done for their overall lineup? With the pieces they have, I think they vastly improved over the lineup that aired on the night for two weeks.
Mike & Molly performs about as well as 2 Broke Girls and it's in a much easier timeslot, so I could definitely see it doing worse. But like I said, I get why they did it because 2 Broke Girls is a more important asset to them at this point, since Mike & Molly will have enough episodes for syndication after this season.

I just think it's probably bad news for Mike & Molly, since they're throwing it in the least protected slot, and will likely have no qualms about axing it if it underperforms. And I'm doubtful Big Bang repeats will help Mom that much in the long term, but we'll see. Either way, the entire scheduling seems to be revolve around protecting 2 Broke Girls - which I get, since they sold it into syndication for big money and it would be beneficial for the show to actually make it to syndication.

lucy&vivfan
10-10-2013, 09:06 PM
The problem with the world of sitcoms on network TV is they all appeal to the under 25 audience, which gripes my ever loving soul. Yeah, those of us over 25 and 30 want to laugh, too, you know! I got a kick out of the recent Emmy Awards telecast, when everyone in Hollywood was calling this time "the Golden Age of Television". Well, let me tell you, if this is the Golden Age, then I believe those who say TV will be gone in 10 to 15 years, and we will be seeking our entertainment through a variety of other sources on our iPads and iPhones because what is on prime-time now, is hardly "Golden era" anything, but proof that television is now passé.

tlc38tlc38
10-10-2013, 09:41 PM
lucy&vivfan, I agree with your statement above about sitcoms being geared to the under 25 group (I'm 30) but I still love 2 Broke Girls.

I think it's something we have to face now, TV as we KNEW it is gone forever. There will NEVER be another "Cheers" or even another "Kate & Allie". We just have to make the best with what we're given or just choose to not watch TV and invest (like myself) in a classic TV on DVD collection.

lucy&vivfan
10-10-2013, 09:45 PM
lucy&vivfan, I agree with your statement above about sitcoms being geared to the under 25 group (I'm 30) but I still love 2 Broke Girls.

I think it's something we have to face now, TV as we KNEW it is gone forever. There will NEVER be another "Cheers" or even another "Kate & Allie". We just have to make the best with what we're given or just choose to not watch TV and invest (like myself) in a classic TV on DVD collection.

When we have the attitude that we have to make the "best of what we are given", it paves the way to bad TV. Case in point: Reality Television. Crapola, to the nth degree. Who cares about Kim Kardashian or a bunch of backwood toothless hillbillies killing deer on the Animal Planet? Because the ignorant general population who consumes television paves the way for more talentless, greedy hacks in Hollywood to produce more drivel.

The time has come for people to start picking up a book and turn the TV off and see if that makes Hollywood change its ways.

tlc38tlc38
10-10-2013, 09:55 PM
When we have the attitude that we have to make the "best of what we are given", it paves the way to bad TV. Case in point: Reality Television. Crapola, to the nth degree. Who cares about Kim Kardashian or a bunch of backwood toothless hillbillies killing deer on the Animal Planet? Because the ignorant general population who consumes television paves the way for more talentless, greedy hacks in Hollywood to produce more drivel.

The time has come for people to start picking up a book and turn the TV off and see if that makes Hollywood change its ways.
I totally agree. The current sitcoms are terrible, for the most part, (I really like The Neighbors and 2 Broke Girls) and there are only a few good dramas (Revenge, Once Upon a Time, Scandal).

Mr. Television
10-10-2013, 10:12 PM
I totally agree. The current sitcoms are terrible, for the most part, (I really like The Neighbors and 2 Broke Girls) and there are only a few good dramas (Revenge, Once Upon a Time, Scandal).
I like some of today's sitcoms and dramas but they are surrounded by so much crap. I don't know how anyone can say this is the golden age of tv. I grew up with only 3 networks. That was the golden age. Classic shows regularly were scheduled opposite each other and you had ful nights of classic shows on certain channels like CBS on Saturday night in the 70's and ABC's Tuesday night lineup. Nowadays you have to use a DVR because you can't watch a great lineup live anymore.

Ryan Chamberlain
10-11-2013, 12:06 AM
If this is the golden age of TV. Just call me Queen Ryan.

TV today is crap for the most part. Especially sitcoms. They starting going around hill around 2003 and have just went even further since. Most of them have vile tasteless jokes and situations. The women on them act like hoes for the most part. The men act like slobs. The scripts are about as funny as dirt. IMO.

The last good newer sitcom was 30 Rock. It should have ran another season or 2. How could you not love Ms. Lemon?

HauntedThunderman94
10-11-2013, 09:12 PM
FOX is basically cutting Us & Them short
The network, unhappy with the quality of scripts as they were coming in, is basically cancelling the midseason sitcom. Full story here...

tvline.com/2013/10/11/us-them-cancelled-fox/

irehtman
10-16-2013, 05:34 PM
Dads should get cancelled during midseason, it is not doing well like the other Fox Tuesday Night comedies at all!

Mr. Television
10-16-2013, 06:07 PM
Dads should get cancelled during midseason, it is not doing well like the other Fox Tuesday Night comedies at all!
None of Fox's comedies are doing all that great except New Girl and ratings are even down on it. Dad's rating are actually on par with the rest of the lineup.

irehtman
10-16-2013, 06:36 PM
None of Fox's comedies are doing all that great except New Girl and ratings are even down on it. Dad's rating are actually on par with the rest of the lineup.

New Girl would be correctly perfect if they added a sixth member of this show:

- A third young woman character in a both Jess and Cece type.

The Mindy Project had eight characters, but they need two more men doctor characters, to make it a correctly perfect total of ten AND make this show stronger in continuance:

- A young African-American man doctor, who is like a Tamara type, so Tamara can feel more relieved.

- A cranky old man doctor, who is like a Beverly type, so Beverly can 1) have company at her own level, 2) feel more relieved and 3) respectfully make young adults fans create more peace with those two cranky old people in this show.

Brooklyn Nine-Nine needs to lower down the awkwardness and make it more balanced.

I'm telling you these three shows will get full-season order, but I don't Dads will go beyond midseason, no offense.

Mr. Television
10-16-2013, 06:47 PM
New Girl would be correctly perfect if they added a sixth member of this show:

- A third young woman character in a both Jess and Cece type.

The Mindy Project had eight characters, but they need two more men doctor characters, to make it a correctly perfect total of ten AND make this show stronger in continuance:

- A young African-American man doctor, who is like a Tamara type, so Tamara can feel more relieved.

- A cranky old man doctor, who is like a Beverly type, so Beverly can 1) have company at her own level, 2) feel more relieved and 3) respectfully make young adults fans create more peace with those two cranky old people in this show.

Brooklyn Nine-Nine needs to lower down the awkwardness and make it more balanced.

I'm telling you these three shows will get full-season order, but I don't Dads will go beyond midseason, no offense.
No offense, I don't watch any of them. lol

EmoJoe
10-16-2013, 09:56 PM
There is no "golden age of TV" and saying that is a dumb term. Every era has had its good shows and bad shows. There is a lot of great TV now, but there's also a whole lot of crap. There was crap in the old days too. You're not going to sit here and tell me something like...I don't know, The Flying Nun was a good show. I think it's ignorant to write off any specific era of TV, whether it be present day or classic TV, but unfortunately there's many people who do both.


I'm telling you these three shows will get full-season order, but I don't Dads will go beyond midseason, no offense.

Well, Fox already ordered more scripts for both Dads and Brooklyn Nine-Nine, so it looks like they're sticking with them for now. Neither are doing great, but they aren't total disasters like...well, all of NBC's new comedies. With Murder Police cancelled I wonder if they'll try slotting in some live-action comedy on Sundays.

mr awesome
10-17-2013, 04:38 PM
Mindy Project is just horrible, and the supporting cast is so bland. They keep making adjustments in the cast, which is good but it still not watchable IMO. But of course it's a 'Bridget Jones'-type show and that's not my cup of tea anyway so c'est la vie.

irehtman
10-17-2013, 04:57 PM
Mindy Project is just horrible, and the supporting cast is so bland. They keep making adjustments in the cast, which is good but it still not watchable IMO. But of course it's a 'Bridget Jones'-type show and that's not my cup of tea anyway so c'est la vie.

I just found that New Girl, The Mindy Project and Brooklyn Nine-Nine are going to add a few more characters ASAP.

New Girl is adding one more cast member to get added to make it six: A third young woman who is more likely a both Jess and Cece type.

The Mindy Project is adding two more men doctor characters in the main cast to make it ten: 1) A young African-American man, who is like a Tamara type and 2) A cranky old Caucasian man, who well help Beverly gain some more relief.

Brooklyn Nine-Nine might add one or three members just in case action spread outs quickly in New York City.

James28
10-18-2013, 01:23 PM
The ratings for Two and a Half Men have been declining this season, and the demo rating for last night's episode was a 2.1, with overall viewers at 8.50 million. It is possible that they can decide at midseason if they want to wrap up the show's original run at the end of this season.

mr awesome
10-18-2013, 05:00 PM
http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/nbc-cancels-ironside-welcome-to-the-family-sets-premiere-dates-for-community-chicago-pd/

NBC Cancels ‘Ironside’ & “Welcome To The Family’, Sets Premiere Dates For ‘Community’ & ‘Chicago PD’

By NELLIE ANDREEVA | Friday October 18, 2013 @ 1:37pm PDT

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NBC has pulled Ironside and Welcome To The Family three weeks into their freshman runs. Welcome To The Family is gone effective immediately, while Ironside will air one more episode next Wednesday before getting off the schedule. Beginning Oct. 30, repeats, Dateline and specials will air in Ironside’s 10 PM berth until Jan. 8, when Chicago Fire spinoff Chicago P.D. will debut in the slot that successfully launched the mothership series last season. On Thursdays, NBC will air a mix of back-to-back Parks & Recreation episodes and various specials for the next two months, with veteran Community launching its fifth season on Jan. 2 with back-to-back episodes from 8-9 PM before moving to its old 8 PM slot, with current occupant Parks & Recreation sliding to Welcome To The Family‘s 8:30 PM period beginning with the Jan. 9 episode, the show’s 100th. Here is a rundown of NBC’s plans for the two time periods:

Going forward, NBC Wednesday 10 p.m. timeslot:

n Oct. 30: “Law & Order: SVU” (encore of season premiere)

n Nov. 6: “Dateline” (original)

n Nov. 13: “Dateline” (original)

n Nov. 20: “Dateline” (original)

n Nov. 27: “SNL Thanksgiving”

n Dec. 4: “SNL Christmas” (9-11 p.m.)

n Dec. 11: Kelly Clarkson Christmas Special

n Dec. 18: Michael Buble Christmas Special

n Jan. 8, 2014: Premiere of “Chicago P.D.”

Going forward, NBC Thursday 8 p.m. timeslot:

n Oct. 24: “The Voice” (encore)

n Oct. 31: “SNL Halloween”

n Nov. 7: “The Voice” (live)

n Nov. 14: “Parks and Recreation” (back-to-back new episodes)

n Nov. 21: “Parks and Recreation” (back-to-back new episodes)

n Nov. 28: “Sunday Night Football” Thanksgiving game

n Dec. 5: “The Sound of Music Live” telecast

n Dec. 12: “The Sing-Off”

n Dec. 19: “The Sing-Off”

n Jan. 2, 2014: Season premiere of “Community” (back-to-back episodes)

n Jan. 9: 100th episode of “Parks and Recreation” (8:30 p.m.)

James28
10-18-2013, 08:01 PM
Ironside is fired, and Blair Underwood is on the unemployment line.

"Welcome to the Family"? More like "Goodbye from the Family"! :lol: To the unemployment line is where its cast and crew go.

UMFaninMD
10-18-2013, 08:28 PM
Not surprised Ironside is gone. With the exception of Hawaii Five-O, usually remaking classic crime dramas for modern times doesn't work.

EmoJoe
10-18-2013, 11:00 PM
SIX SEASONS AND A MOVIE

icecream
10-18-2013, 11:12 PM
Every time I've liked a sitcom on NBC recently it's been cancelled quickly. Welcome to the Family this year, Animal Practice last year, and The Paul Reiser Show from a few years back. WTTF wasn't doing well but I don't like it being made the scapegoat for Thursdays, the entire lineup has done poorly. Sean Saves the World was only two tenths higher this week, and it's in the anchor position.

EmoJoe
10-19-2013, 12:49 AM
The entire line-up has done poorly but Welcome to the Family's ratings were far worse than the rest of the block. Last night's ratings:

Parks & Recreation - 1.3
Welcome to the Family - 0.9
Sean Saves the World - 1.1
The Michael J. Fox Show - 1.2
Parenthood - 1.3

The rest of the block is bad, but at least it managed to stay above a 1.0. NBC made the right call. Animal Practice and Paul Reiser Show were also horribly rated and earned their fates.

Anyway, the block has more or less been blown up - Parks is getting shelved until mid-November, where it'll burn off 4 episodes in 2 weeks, and MJF and Sean Saves the World only have a handful of airings left this fall. They're going to be airing The Voice reruns, SNL specials and a limited edition of The Sing Off before re-instating the comedy block in January with Community. So, really, every show is getting a little bit screwed over.

loaferman
10-19-2013, 12:12 PM
Not surprised Ironside is gone. With the exception of Hawaii Five-O, usually remaking classic crime dramas for modern times doesn't work.
I tend to agree. I know most viewers now do not remember Raymond Burr in the role but if you do it was iconic. I don't see why putting Blair Underwood who is not disabled ( though Burr was not either) into an old role was chosen rather than giving him a new detective show which could have used the same basic scripts they were using with some adjustments.
I cringe every time I hear they want to "remake" Rockford Files. Please, just don't. James Garner is Rockford, Raymond Burr was Ironside. It shows a total lack of creativity these days.

loaferman
10-19-2013, 12:15 PM
Mike & Molly performs about as well as 2 Broke Girls and it's in a much easier timeslot, so I could definitely see it doing worse. But like I said, I get why they did it because 2 Broke Girls is a more important asset to them at this point, since Mike & Molly will have enough episodes for syndication after this season.

I just think it's probably bad news for Mike & Molly, since they're throwing it in the least protected slot, and will likely have no qualms about axing it if it underperforms. And I'm doubtful Big Bang repeats will help Mom that much in the long term, but we'll see. Either way, the entire scheduling seems to be revolve around protecting 2 Broke Girls - which I get, since they sold it into syndication for big money and it would be beneficial for the show to actually make it to syndication.
Didn't FX make a deal for a certain number of episodes of "Mike and Molly"? I think Melissa McCarthy would quickly jump full-time to films if it gets canceled. I can not imagine her renewing her contract once it ends. With guaranteed syndication money it will make the show profitable to keep in production unless the network just gives up on it.

EmoJoe
10-20-2013, 12:17 AM
The agreement was probably just for the standard ~88 episodes that's required for syndication, which Mike & Molly should surpass by the end of the year.

lucy&vivfan
10-20-2013, 12:27 AM
I don't think "Mike & Molly" is doing well. The fact that it is returning this season as a midseason replacement is not a good thing. They don't do that to shows that are considered a hit or are doing well.

lucy&vivfan
10-20-2013, 12:28 AM
I totally agree. Mindy Kaling is just not funny. Whoever told her she was, they were wrong.

irehtman
10-20-2013, 05:54 AM
I totally agree. Mindy Kaling is just not funny. Whoever told her she was, they were wrong.

She is sometimes funny, but this season, she might put into additional pressure. Her show needs to fix the adjustments carefully before it gets too late!

EmoJoe
10-20-2013, 09:19 PM
I like Mindy Kaling but her show is a mess. It's occasionally funny but the characters are all unlikable and completely one-dimensional, and it has no sense of direction or purpose. I'm not sure what went wrong because there's a lot of talent in that show (both on-screen and off) but at this point I don't see them fixing it.

It wouldn't surprise me if it got a 3rd season if none of Fox's other comedies take off though. Plus, it does pretty well in the 18-34 demographic apparently.

irehtman
10-20-2013, 10:05 PM
I like Mindy Kaling but her show is a mess. It's occasionally funny but the characters are all unlikable and completely one-dimensional, and it has no sense of direction or purpose. I'm not sure what went wrong because there's a lot of talent in that show (both on-screen and off) but at this point I don't see them fixing it.

It wouldn't surprise me if it got a 3rd season if none of Fox's other comedies take off though. Plus, it does pretty well in the 18-34 demographic apparently.

There four fixations involved for The Mindy Project:

1) Guest actor James Franco was too strong to be let go. He needs to return to play nice instead.

2) Guest actor Anders Holm, who played pastor Casey, got his acting career terminated due to an increasing amount of erratic behavior. Pastor Casey should return and be played by a new and better actor.

3) Even if Beverly and Tamara are bad, Tamara is getting better. But the ninth character, which should be a young African-American man doctor, should get added and give Tamara some more relief.

4) Finally, I understand that all young adult fans hated Beverly because she is too self-destructive on all young people. The strict old Tv critics were strongly supportive on her and the reason why? The strict old Tv critics want to make sure that this show cannot cause an imbalance attracting too many 13-year-olds to 19-year-olds in one blow. This time, we cannot get rid of Beverly, otherwise, this show will be doomed. The only way to solve this problem is this: the tenth character to get added should be a cranky old hillbilly man doctor for these important reasons:

A) give Beverly some more relief on her own level of company.

B) Beverly and that cranky old man doctor will team up to discipline all the young adults, but more likely on all young men.

C) young adults will make equal peace agreements with those two cranky old people.

So we better up and fix this show with all these requirements before it gets too late!

cleverfun3000
10-20-2013, 10:14 PM
If I had a choice for a veteran series which will end up having a "series finale" at the end of the season, it would be "Two and a Half Men". I hope its ratings decline this season.

http://i.imgur.com/TWQ37X0.jpg (http://lunapic.com>)

Buffyboy323
10-21-2013, 12:37 AM
I like Mindy Kaling but her show is a mess. It's occasionally funny but the characters are all unlikable and completely one-dimensional, and it has no sense of direction or purpose. I'm not sure what went wrong because there's a lot of talent in that show (both on-screen and off) but at this point I don't see them fixing it.

It wouldn't surprise me if it got a 3rd season if none of Fox's other comedies take off though. Plus, it does pretty well in the 18-34 demographic apparently.
I agree about The Mindy Project. There's just no direction. I'm not exactly sure what the show is supposed to be about. The supporting cast is WEAK.

I watch because there's nothing else on. And because I like her.

irehtman
10-21-2013, 08:49 AM
I agree about The Mindy Project. There's just no direction. I'm not exactly sure what the show is supposed to be about. The supporting cast is WEAK.

I watch because there's nothing else on. And because I like her.

I know what you're talking about, but Mindy will go in a right direction if they added two men doctor characters:

1.) a young African-American man doctor to give Tamara more relief.

2.) More importantly, a cranky old caucasian man doctor for these important reasons:

* Give Beverly more relief at her own company level.

* Team up with Beverly to discipline all the young adults on how to get along together, especially on all young men doctors.

* Make equal peace together.

They need to hurry up before it gets too late!

EmoJoe
10-21-2013, 11:44 AM
There four fixations involved for The Mindy Project:

1) Guest actor James Franco was too strong to be let go. He needs to return to play nice instead.

2) Guest actor Anders Holm, who played pastor Casey, got his acting career terminated due to an increasing amount of erratic behavior. Pastor Casey should return and be played by a new and better actor.

3) Even if Beverly and Tamara are bad, Tamara is getting better. But the ninth character, which should be a young African-American man doctor, should get added and give Tamara some more relief.

4) Finally, I understand that all young adult fans hated Beverly because she is too self-destructive on all young people. The strict old Tv critics were strongly supportive on her and the reason why? The strict old Tv critics want to make sure that this show cannot cause an imbalance attracting too many 13-year-olds to 19-year-olds in one blow. This time, we cannot get rid of Beverly, otherwise, this show will be doomed. The only way to solve this problem is this: the tenth character to get added should be a cranky old hillbilly man doctor for these important reasons:

A) give Beverly some more relief on her own level of company.

B) Beverly and that cranky old man doctor will team up to discipline all the young adults, but more likely on all young men.

C) young adults will make equal peace agreements with those two cranky old people.

So we better up and fix this show with all these requirements before it gets too late!
Well, there's no way A-list actor James Franco was going to stick around on a low-rated Fox sitcom. They're lucky they got him at all. And I haven't heard anything about Anders' acting career being "terminated", he left because he had to go back to his own show Workaholics (which just got like a 3-year renewal).

I just think the shows' primary problem is that its characters aren't well-developed and the show doesn't seem to have any intention of developing them better. It's more focused on being a rom-com with Mindy and her boyfriend-of-the-week and usually sidelines everyone else (except Danny, who the show is obviously setting up to be her endgame boyfriend). But they still try to be an ensemble workplace sitcom every now and then and it just doesn't work at all. I gave up on it halfway through last season and when I checked back in at the beginning of this year, the show had the exact same issues. It's unfortunate because the pilot was pretty good and showed potential but it just isn't working.

Having said that, the show seems to have gathered a decent-sized following so at least it has that, even if it'll likely never be a critical or commercial hit.

James28
10-21-2013, 12:37 PM
The Mindy Project is probably going to be canclled after two seasons.

NBC's Revolution will probably end up cancelled because it's not produced in house by Universal TV (Warner Bros. TV produces the show) and production costs are too high, and its 1.5 demo rating does not warrant the expense.

I'm worried about the future of the "original recipe" CSI, the current season (its 14th) has been averaging a 2.0 in the demo with 9 million viewers. Probably expensive to produce as well. I'm probably not willing to let this one go because of The Simpsons still producing new episodes.

irehtman
10-21-2013, 12:43 PM
Well, there's no way A-list actor James Franco was going to stick around on a low-rated Fox sitcom. They're lucky they got him at all. And I haven't heard anything about Anders' acting career being "terminated", he left because he had to go back to his own show Workaholics (which just got like a 3-year renewal).

I just think the shows' primary problem is that its characters aren't well-developed and the show doesn't seem to have any intention of developing them better. It's more focused on being a rom-com with Mindy and her boyfriend-of-the-week and usually sidelines everyone else (except Danny, who the show is obviously setting up to be her endgame boyfriend). But they still try to be an ensemble workplace sitcom every now and then and it just doesn't work at all. I gave up on it halfway through last season and when I checked back in at the beginning of this year, the show had the exact same issues. It's unfortunate because the pilot was pretty good and showed potential but it just isn't working.

Having said that, the show seems to have gathered a decent-sized following so at least it has that, even if it'll likely never be a critical or commercial hit.

The only way to get this show connected to each other is add these two men doctor characters:

1.) A young African-American man doctor to give Tamara some more relief.

2.) A cranky old Caucasian man doctor for these reasons:

* Give beverly some more relief.

* Team up with Beverly to discipline all the young adults to get along together correctly, especially on those all young adult men doctors.

* We will make an equal peace agreement to each other, especially to those two cranky old members.

Finally, the pastor Casey character has to return, but it has to be played by a better actor than Anders Holm.

What I am try to say right now has to be obeyed and it will increase more ratings immediately before it gets too late!

irehtman
10-21-2013, 12:45 PM
The Mindy Project is probably going to be canclled after two seasons.

NBC's Revolution will probably end up cancelled because it's not produced in house by Universal TV (Warner Bros. TV produces the show) and production costs are too high, and its 1.5 demo rating does not warrant the expense.

I'm worried about the future of the "original recipe" CSI, the current season (its 14th) has been averaging a 2.0 in the demo with 9 million viewers. Probably expensive to produce as well. I'm probably not willing to let this one go because of The Simpsons still producing new episodes.

It will continue properly if you follow these requirements from above.

James28
10-21-2013, 01:29 PM
FOX is putting all of its resources on Brooklyn Nine-Nine right now. It got a full season, and the post-Super Bowl slot. Sory about Mindy Project's low ratings, but if you don't want the show to be fired after this season, then you need to start watching it live on Tuesday nights.

icecream
10-21-2013, 01:53 PM
I'm worried about the future of the "original recipe" CSI, the current season (its 14th) has been averaging a 2.0 in the demo with 9 million viewers. Probably expensive to produce as well. I'm probably not willing to let this one go because of The Simpsons still producing new episodes.CSI is safe this season anyway, it might move to Fridays or Sundays in 2014 but won't be cancelled yet.

McGillicuddy
10-21-2013, 01:57 PM
Lucky 7, We Are Men, Ironside, Welcome To The Family, cancelled. Aren't there usually a lot more cancellations by late October? Maybe they're giving new shows more of a chance this year.

irehtman
10-21-2013, 02:00 PM
FOX is putting all of its resources on Brooklyn Nine-Nine right now. It got a full season, and the post-Super Bowl slot. Sory about Mindy Project's low ratings, but if you don't want the show to be fired after this season, then you need to start watching it live on Tuesday nights.

I'm also glad that brooklyn-Nine got a full season order. I do watch it live on Tuesday nights, but the only FOX Tuesday Night shows that I watch are from 8:30pm-10:00pm only.

James28
10-23-2013, 11:06 PM
What about my opinion of Revolution?

loaferman
10-24-2013, 08:25 AM
FOX is putting all of its resources on Brooklyn Nine-Nine right now. It got a full season, and the post-Super Bowl slot. Sory about Mindy Project's low ratings, but if you don't want the show to be fired after this season, then you need to start watching it live on Tuesday nights.
Unless you are part of the ratings system will watching it as it airs make much difference?

McGillicuddy
10-24-2013, 04:50 PM
ABC is talking about bring back Body of Proof, which was cancelled last season. It did much better in the time slot for Lucky 7.

tlc38tlc38
10-24-2013, 04:53 PM
ABC is talking about bring back Body of Proof, which was cancelled last season. It did much better in the time slot for Lucky 7.
I always thought canceling "BOP" was a big mistake. Dana is so talented and the cast had great chemistry. I also think ABC screwed up when they canceled "Malibu Country".

James28
10-24-2013, 05:06 PM
I always thought canceling "BOP" was a big mistake. Dana is so talented and the cast had great chemistry. I also think ABC screwed up when they canceled "Malibu Country".

Didn't "Body of Proof" get cancelled due to low 18-49 demo ratings? (It averaged a 1.4 last season).

This is being done because ABC is probably lacking faith in all their midseason shows. The goal would be to bring Body of Proof back for mid-season but a lot of work will have to be done quickly to make that happen — including trying to get Dana Delany and other members of the cast back.

EmoJoe
10-24-2013, 05:12 PM
Body of Proof was pretty low-rated so I don't know how much bringing it back would help, but I guess anything is better than Lucky 7.

irehtman
10-27-2013, 06:50 AM
Young adult fans cannot stand that Beverly character in The Mindy Project because she acting too self-destructive to young adults.

tlc38tlc38
10-27-2013, 09:52 AM
My predictions for the new fall shows:

Will get renewed for 2nd season:
The Blacklist
Mom
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
The Michael J. Fox Show---(I think NBC will try to milk this to death just becuse of MJF, despite its poor ratings.)
The Crazy Ones
Sleepy Hollow---(this has already been renewed)
Dads---(this has already been renewed)

Will get cancelled after first season:
The Goldbergs
Back in the Game
Sean Saves the World
The Millers
Once Upon a Time in Wonderland
Betrayal

Will be cancelled before the first season is finished:
Trophy Wife
Super Fun Night
Dracula

comedyfreak
10-27-2013, 11:27 AM
Dracula had solid ratings, we'll see.

McGillicuddy
10-27-2013, 01:44 PM
Dracula had solid ratings, we'll see.

Dracula is in the timeslot that Grimm had on Friday. Grimm became a successful show, so why wouldn't Dracula do well there?

The Millers did well in the Nielson Ratings this week!

icecream
10-27-2013, 02:19 PM
The Millers did well in the Nielson Ratings this week!Not really. The Millers had its lowest retention yet from The Big Bang Theory, a 2.6 from a 5.2, exactly half the audience left.

icecream
10-27-2013, 02:21 PM
Will get renewed for 2nd season:
Dads---(this has already been renewed)
Dads got a full season for this year, that's not the same as a renewal.

IllinoisTVFan
10-27-2013, 02:50 PM
How is the Goldbergs doing? I have been watching this and it's cute.

yankeesrj12
10-27-2013, 04:09 PM
How is the Goldbergs doing? I have been watching this and it's cute.
Meh. I believe it did a 1.7 this past week in the A18-49 demo. It finished fourth in its timeslot, ahead of only Supernatural on The CW.

EmoJoe
10-27-2013, 09:48 PM
Goldbergs is not doing well at all, but all of ABC's new comedies are struggling so I think it'll probably get a back nine order.

UMFaninMD
10-27-2013, 10:08 PM
Dracula had solid ratings, we'll see.

It got the highest ratings for a new drama this year and won the coveted 18-49 timeslot but there have been a lot of mixed opinions regarding the pilot, and One Million Moms has targeted the show for a boycott, which may have more people check out the show to see what the fuss is about. It may have been better off as a miniseries.

EmoJoe
10-28-2013, 01:33 AM
Dracula definitely did not get the highest numbers for a new drama this year, not sure where you're reading that. It did very well though, holding all of Grimm's audience and tying it for the 2nd highest-rated show of the night. It's far too early to tell whether it will be able to sustain itself, though. Really, I think it's far too early to make any calls about anything that's not an obvious renew/cancel. So much can change between now and May.

We got most of the obvious dead weight out of the way, I'm guessing the next wave of cancellations will just be the shows that don't get back 9 orders.

UMFaninMD
10-28-2013, 05:46 PM
Not highest drama, I meant to say Dracula had the highest ratings for its time slot. The link below mentions it.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Friday-Night-Ratings-Dracula-Premiere-Carrie-Diaries-1072570.aspx

McGillicuddy
10-28-2013, 05:56 PM
Not really. The Millers had its lowest retention yet from The Big Bang Theory, a 2.6 from a 5.2, exactly half the audience left.

The Nielsons are deceiving. The Millers ranked overall 11, and yet it lost half its audience from BBT.

HauntedThunderman94
11-01-2013, 10:23 PM
Back in the Game is three strikes your CANCELLED!
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/11/01/back-in-the-game-canceled-by-abc-trophy-wife-more-episodes-for-super-fun-night/213090/

James28
11-01-2013, 10:41 PM
After giving The Goldbergs and Trophy Wife full season orders, as well as giving an order of four episodes to Super Fun Night, ABC Network has effectively FIRED Back in the Game, deciding not to give it a full-season order. BitG (which has not been pulled from the schedule, BTW) will finish out its 13-episode order, after which it will clean out its desk at midseason.

Possible Suburgatory return, anyone?

If the other sitcoms continue to do poorly, their casts and crews may as well join that of BitG on the unemployment line in May.

EmoJoe
11-02-2013, 12:31 AM
A little surprising - Back in the Game's ratings weren't great but they weren't much worse than the rest of ABC's new comedies (and actually better than Trophy Wife's, which got a full season). But it has almost no buzz at all (whereas Trophy Wife seems to have a lot) and it's not doing great in a pretty great timeslot so it makes sense.

icecream
11-02-2013, 01:45 AM
Plus Trophy Wife is owned by ABC and BITG isn't. Good riddance to BITG, one of my most anticipated new shows but it was dreadful. I wouldn't mind The Goldbergs paired with The Middle but they probably want to keep it as a Tuesday anchor.

EmoJoe
11-02-2013, 03:57 AM
Goldbergs with The Middle would make much more sense, and I'm hoping they slot Trophy Wife after Modern Family. I'm guessing they will keep the Tuesday comedy block in tact somehow though, since Suburgatory still needs a timeslot.

yankeesrj12
11-02-2013, 12:01 PM
ABC could do something like this for midseason:

Tuesday
9 - Mixology
930 - Trophy Wife

Wednesday
8 - The Middle
830 - Suburgatory
9 - Modern Family
930 - The Goldbergs

Friday
8 - Last Man Standing
830 - The Neighbors (it has a 22 episode order)

James28
11-04-2013, 11:39 PM
Turns out that Trophy Wife has the "produced-in-house" advantage, in which a show that is produced/owned by the network gets an order for more episodes at the expense of another show produced by an outside studio, which gets dumped by the network. It can sometimes happen if the in-house-produced show gets lower ratings than the outside-studio-produced show.

James28
11-12-2013, 02:03 AM
Turns out that I was wrong about the so-called "limited series". Sorry if I confused them with "miniseries". These new "limited series" are designed to have reduced episode orders per season ("cable brevity" or "British brevity"), and run for only one half of the network TV season. If any of these new "limited-run series" had sufficient ratings for their network, they would have been renewed for another season.

For example, FOX-BC's The Following should be considered a "limited series", since there are only 15 episodes for each season it will possibly run for, as per star Kevin Bacon's deal, and it airs during the second hallf of the TV season.

James28
12-26-2013, 03:56 AM
If I had to pick ONE new fall sitcom from CBS for a renewal for next season, it would probably be The Millers. The other two new sitcoms, The Crazy Ones and Mom, will probably be cancelled in May (the latter due to low ratings). Plus, I haven't seen one critical review for Mom.

Also, I have all but given up on The Michael J. Fox Show. Last episode I watched was the Christmas episode on 12 December. I wanted to get into at least one single-camera sitcom, only for this to be a failure in viewership. TMJFS will probably be cancelled after one season in May because of the extremely low viewership.

The ratings for Two and a Half Men have been pretty bad this season (the most recent episode, aired two weeks ago, had just a 1.9 rating in the 18-49 demo). If CBS were to make a decision on the future of Two and a Half Men right now, they would either decide to end the show with the still-in-progress 11th season, with just eight to ten episodes left to produce, or renew Two and a Half Men for an abbreviated 12th and final season of between 12 to 18 episodes. If they choose the latter, TaaHM would probably return at midseason, likely taking over for a new sitcom that doesn't receive a full-season order and gets cancelled. Either way, they'll try to bring back former star Angus Turner Jones for the final episode. How will this series end? I have no idea, but I guess anything can happen on the final farewell episodes of the best scripted TV shows.

EmoJoe
12-26-2013, 04:51 AM
CBS isn't going to cancel 3 comedies in a year where they're losing How I Met Your Mother. Out of The Millers, 2.5 Men, Crazy Ones and Mom, my guess is that at least 2 get renewed, and maybe even 3. I could even see all of them getting renewed if Friends With Better Lives tanks.

James28
12-26-2013, 04:59 AM
NBC lost both of their high-profile comedies last year (30 Rock and The Office). Why can't CBS lose both TaaHM and HIMYM? If Millers, Crazy Ones, and/or Mom are renewed, and TaaHM is permanently gone from new episodes, then they'll probably wind up having second-season downfalls (probably the first CBS sitcom to experience a second-season downfall since Gary Unmarried). You just never know how many new shows a major broadcast network will launch for next season.

icecream
12-26-2013, 11:01 AM
If I had to pick ONE new fall sitcom from CBS for a renewal for next season, it would probably be The Millers. The other two new sitcoms, The Crazy Ones and Mom, will probably be cancelled in May (the latter due to low ratings). Plus, I haven't seen one critical review for Mom.It's really a tossup which of the rookies will be renewed/cancelled. The Millers only gets the best ratings because of the Big Bang lead-in, I bet The Crazy Ones would have better retention at 8:30. Plus The Millers would die if it had to switch places with Mom.

James28
12-26-2013, 06:34 PM
CBS has so little room for brand new scripted shows and have to renew so many of their existing ones...

liane49
12-28-2013, 12:35 PM
My pick for first cancelled is We Are Men on CBS. But I also wouldn't be surprised to see Ironside, Lucky 7, or Welcome to the Family get it. Sadly, I think Dads will stick around for a while because of all of the hype around how awful it is, but that'll fade fast and I see it gone by Thanksgiving.

As for returning shows, there's a bunch of marginal sophomore shows that I think are in trouble - namely The Mindy Project, Revolution, The Carrie Diaries, and Beauty and the Beast. I could see this being Two and a Half Men's final season too, but since CBS is already losing How I Met Your Mother this year, they might want to keep it around for one more season. I also wouldn't be completely surprised if Bones announced this was their final season, especially if FOX's others new drama wind up doing well (things look good for Sleepy Hollow so far).
I like Dads and Raising Hope.

James28
12-28-2013, 07:10 PM
The TV series Nikita had the shortest final season of any broadcast network TV series in the U.S., with just six episodes. With the low ratings it had during its second and third seasons, it could have easily been cancelled at anytime. Nikita ends with just 73 episodes overall.

Fun Fact: The last two episodes of Nikita are actually titled "Bubble" and "Canceled". :lol:

irehtman
12-29-2013, 06:59 AM
Starting April 2014, actress Jayma Mays will officially stick with "The Millers" more likely as a permanent supporting cast member.

Ant-Lox
12-30-2013, 10:56 AM
Nikita is going to be a DVD buy for me if they package it in a complete set. I never knew when the show as one and forgot about it a lot during it's run.

James28
01-13-2014, 03:57 PM
ABC Network's The Assets just got pulled from the schedule last Friday after just two of its eight episodes aired, due to extremely low ratings (0.63 in the demographic w/ 3.35 million total viewers).

AB
01-13-2014, 04:05 PM
ABC Network's The Assets just got pulled from the schedule last Friday after just two of its eight episodes aired, due to extremely low ratings (0.63 in the demographic w/ 3.35 million total viewers).

I watched the first episode and just couldn't get into it. It seemed kind of dull.

James28
01-13-2014, 04:47 PM
Here's a thing about building and pushing brand-new scripted network TV shows: Many new shows can be launched at the beginning of the network TV season (or can be launched at midseason), but only a select few can make the cut to the next television season, and even fewer will become long-runners in their own right.

Also, because so many new shows fail, the longer-running shows (good or bad) have to keep themselves going indefinitely. And viewers purposely avoid watching brand-new shows and stick to existing established shows in order to protect them.

James28
01-21-2014, 10:58 PM
Considering the terrible ratings for FOX's Raising Hope this season (an 0.72 in the demo with 2.21 million viewers), I think it could very easily be cancelled after this season (its fourth).

Enlisted has been getting terrible ratings, also (0.68 in the demo).

HauntedThunderman94
01-28-2014, 10:58 PM
Sean Saves the World is CANCELLED

http://www.deadline.com/2014/01/nbcs-sean-saves-the-world-shuts-down-production/

HarryWild
02-01-2014, 12:59 AM
Talk to someone about TV shows and she said that ABC's Killer Women is canceled too! I had big hopes for this show but it turn into too much twist in the Texas Ranger lady's personal life that I only watch it twice and I had it with soapy type personal plots. I think if the shows producers had a straight detective show plot theme; it would of been a great show but as it was; it is garbage! More like a massive soap opera then a detective show!

Cyrax
02-01-2014, 03:43 AM
Yeah Killer Women was DOA and it won't even air its 2 last episodes in the Tuesday 10 pm timeslot...

I wonder if The Neighbors is being pulled? It won't air any repeats during Olympics, and supposedly a Last Man Standing repeat is scheduled for 8:30 pm on the last Friday of the month after an original at 8 pm...

lucy&vivfan
02-02-2014, 11:00 PM
Sean Saves the World is CANCELLED

http://www.deadline.com/2014/01/nbcs-sean-saves-the-world-shuts-down-production/

Thank heaven!! Terrible show.

HauntedThunderman94
02-05-2014, 09:58 PM
The Michael J Fox Show is CANCELLED

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/nbc-cancels-michael-j-fox-677629

Ryan Chamberlain
02-05-2014, 10:03 PM
^Good. Worst career move that man has ever made. I'm a fan of his and that show just made him look bad.

king of comedy
02-05-2014, 10:10 PM
I hope he does better next time.

HarryWild
02-05-2014, 10:22 PM
I hope he does better next time.

I just hope he had a good contract so he can get some $$$$$$ out of even a canceled show. After all; he has not had a regular series in a long time 15 years? and has just recently appeared in guest spots in shows before his show.

I just hoping he got at least $10 million out of NBC! That would give him $5 million for retirement!

James28
02-06-2014, 12:11 AM
I gave up on The Michael J. Fox Show after its 11th episode, and I can't believe I thought it was interesting. No surprise in this show's demise, cause it wound up being another failure from NBC.

ThomasE
02-06-2014, 12:26 AM
In all honesty, I found Ironside more interesting and it should have stayed around longer.

McGillicuddy
02-07-2014, 09:52 PM
X-Factor has been cancelled. It will not return next season.

ThomasE
02-07-2014, 09:59 PM
X-Factor has been cancelled. It will not return next season.


It's not? Wow! Oh darn! (LOL) I don't think Paula Abdul is too disappointed with that decision at all.:lol:

EmoJoe
02-07-2014, 10:23 PM
Usually I don't cheer for shows' cancellation because it means hundreds of people losing jobs and all but wow this makes me really happy.

ThomasE
02-07-2014, 10:26 PM
I here you, Emo. You hate to see people out of work. However, I do believe that people will find other work. I worked on the show season one. I am sure everyone will be lining up for some other gigs.

HarryWild
02-08-2014, 03:55 AM
Fox just does not want to have two singing contest shows. They are betting that the new scripted American Idol will be a hit! I don't like scripted reality shows so I don't watch Idol after I found out that it is scripted from the first show all the way up to the voting section. I will watch it when the public voting takes place for one episode just to see what that is like!

HarryWild
02-08-2014, 03:56 AM
It's not? Wow! Oh darn! (LOL) I don't think Paula Abdul is too disappointed with that decision at all.:lol:

Paula is a judge in Australia! Forgot if it is a dance or singing reality show however!

king of comedy
02-08-2014, 07:13 AM
X-Factor has been cancelled. It will not return next season.I didn't see that coming. Now Fox will concentrate on American Idol. It's first and only singing competition show.

James28
02-25-2014, 02:06 PM
It looks like there are fewer long-running scripted broadcast network TV shows concluding their original runs this season compared to last season (2 in 2013-14, 6 in 2012-13). The shows that concluded after 2012-13 were The Office, 30 Rock, Rules of Engagement, Private Practice, 90210, and Fringe (though 90210 and RoE can actually be considered "cancelled"). The shows that are concluding after 2013-14 are Nikita and How I Met Your Mother.

I would suspect that the reason why so many long-running network TV shows (like Grey's Anatomy) are too scared to end their original runs is because they probably do not want to end up having to come and go during the original run of a certain 25-year-old animated "floating timeline" comedy show. I have said this before: The Simpsons should not put this off any longer; it should end its original run after Season 26 (and its cast and crew can move on to other projects) in order to make room for a completely-new animated show that can be pushed more effectively. The FOX network will continue to operate regardless of whether or not The Simpsons continues to be a first-run series.

robyrob
02-25-2014, 03:06 PM
It looks like there are fewer long-running scripted broadcast network TV shows concluding their original runs this season compared to last season (2 in 2013-14, 6 in 2012-13). The shows that concluded after 2012-13 were The Office, 30 Rock, Rules of Engagement, Private Practice, 90210, and Fringe (though 90210 and RoE can actually be considered "cancelled"). The shows that are concluding after 2013-14 are Nikita and How I Met Your Mother.

I would suspect that the reason why so many long-running network TV shows (like Grey's Anatomy) are too scared to end their original runs is because they probably do not want to end up having to come and go during the original run of a certain 25-year-old animated "floating timeline" comedy show. I have said this before: The Simpsons should not put this off any longer; it should end its original run after Season 26 (and its cast and crew can move on to other projects) in order to make room for a completely-new animated show that can be pushed more effectively. The FOX network will continue to operate regardless of whether or not The Simpsons continues to be a first-run series.
most of FOX's attempts at new animated shows have been TERRIBLE.

- and the half-decent ones like the Cleveland Show and American Dad they have treated like crap, in favor of Family Guy, which is really just phoning it in now. I still can't stand Bob's Burger's - I just find it too nerve-grating and unfunny to watch, but apparently it is doing OK in the ratings.

I say they keep the Simpsons for another 20 years; let Bart grow old gracefully and live to the ripe old age of eleven.

James28
02-25-2014, 03:49 PM
^^I'm sorry, robyrob, but The Simpsons just can't exist as a first-run TV show any longer; Their episode library is already extensive (560+ episodes), and they already have a syndication deal with FXX, so I'd rather just have the true value of the original episodes they already have than continue to produce new episodes indefinitely. You can't have too much of ONE scripted TV show. Just have its original run come to a close sooner than later, because if the original run of The Simpsons did continue, things are only going to get worse, and then the network can't move forward. Plus, would we want to keep other long-running shows such as Law & Order: SVU, CSI: Las Vegas, The Big Bang Theory, or even Grey's Anatomy and Once Upon a Time for another 20+ years?

You're just gonna have to learn to let things go and move on; Stop living in the past. Television is a BUSINESS, and throughout history, each of the Big 4 networks have gotten over the loss of some of their biggest scripted shows when they ceased being first-run. The networks just continue to operate regardless of whether their biggest scripted TV shows (i.e. Friends, ER, and The Office on NBC) continue to be first-run or not. Every scripted TV show has to quit producing original episodes sooner or later. That's business, that's life. The past is the past, and in the broadcast TV business, we have to create, build, and push brand-new shows, and older shows retire for this "pushing" of new shows to be effective.

Again, TV is a business, not a haven for old and tired animated "floating timeline" shows, nor is it a charity for fans of such shows.

icecream
02-25-2014, 04:47 PM
Plus, would we want to keep other long-running shows such as Once Upon a Time for another 20+ years?I would love to have Once Upon a Time last for 20 years! :cool:

robyrob
02-26-2014, 11:04 AM
Again, TV is a business


EXACTLY - and that is precisely why they have to stop making these new stupid dhows that fail within 2 or 3 episodes and stick with what works, what the people and advertisers want.

they should really start making MORE sliding-timeline shows that can be designed to be successful for longer runs; most shows get ruined when they do stupid "jump-the-shark" things like make the two main characters fall in love or get married, add a baby or a new bratty kid, move into a fancy new "modern" mouse/apartment, or make the kids graduate into fourth grade - who the hell wants to see THAT?

irehtman
02-26-2014, 11:39 AM
"Jump The Shark" is bad enough, but not as worse as "Boned The Fish".

NBC is having problems on its comedies so far...

James28
02-26-2014, 01:07 PM
EXACTLY - and that is precisely why they have to stop making these new stupid dhows that fail within 2 or 3 episodes and stick with what works, what the people and advertisers want.

they should really start making MORE sliding-timeline shows that can be designed to be successful for longer runs; most shows get ruined when they do stupid "jump-the-shark" things like make the two main characters fall in love or get married, add a baby or a new bratty kid, move into a fancy new "modern" mouse/apartment, or make the kids graduate into fourth grade - who the hell wants to see THAT?

I do not agree with you. I do not believe in a long original run just for the sake of having a long original run. In reality, "sliding timescales" are NOT a good thing, and over time, they can get boring and terrible, not better. :mad: Personally, there needs to be an animated series WITHOUT a "sliding timescale" for a change. No one scripted TV show can really stay first-run forever. King of the Hill lasted for 13 seasons and 259 episodes (January 1997-2009), and once it was permanently gone as a first-run show, most of the cast and crew have moved on (although, one castmember, who played Luanne, actually died).

And all these FOX animated series that failed, they were scheduled in X:30 PM slots, while Simpsons and Family Guy were scheduled in X:00 PM slots. If the Simpsons just retired as a first-run show, the chances of launching a new aminated show on the network would actually improve.

James
03-01-2014, 01:21 AM
The shows that are concluding after 2013-14 are Nikita and How I Met Your Mother.

Does that mean Two and a Half Men is going to drag on for yet another season?!

James28
03-01-2014, 02:15 AM
After it switched timeslots with newbie The Crazy Ones, Two and a Half Men had an uptick in the ratings and viewership, with a 2.5 demo rating with 10,025,000 total viewers. I could see TaaHM go into "final season" status next season, also (along with Community and possibly The Simpsons), with 12 to 18 installments.

ThomasE
03-01-2014, 02:18 AM
Now, that was smart for the Thursday lineup. Let the lead ins for the 8 and 9pm hours be Chuck Lorre Sitcoms. I think the Two and a half could make it for a twelfth season.

James28
03-10-2014, 03:44 PM
Another veteran series is not coming back next season: It was confirmed today that the FOX sitcom Raising Hope has been FIRED after four seasons, and its last episode (one-hour) will air on April 4, 2014.

irehtman
03-10-2014, 08:26 PM
Save Enlisted, get rid of Dads!

McGillicuddy
03-10-2014, 09:44 PM
Save Enlisted, get rid of Dads!
I second that. Enlisted is a funny show!

king of comedy
03-11-2014, 06:22 AM
I second that. Enlisted is a funny show!
Yes! Please get rid of Dads!

icecream
03-11-2014, 05:09 PM
Mom deserves to be cancelled. Being stuck with it as a lead-in is what partly killed Hostages. Hostages would have done a lot better if it aired on Wednesdays after Criminal Minds and no Blacklist competition.

Nyan
03-12-2014, 03:36 PM
It won't hurt me any if Almost Human got canceled. It's a really half-baked show and the whole wall episode was just stupid.

king of comedy
03-12-2014, 07:42 PM
I like Almost Human. I hope it does come back.

lucyandethel
03-12-2014, 08:52 PM
^^I'm sorry, robyrob, but The Simpsons just can't exist as a first-run TV show any longer; Their episode library is already extensive (560+ episodes), and they already have a syndication deal with FXX, so I'd rather just have the true value of the original episodes they already have than continue to produce new episodes indefinitely. You can't have too much of ONE scripted TV show. Just have its original run come to a close sooner than later, because if the original run of The Simpsons did continue, things are only going to get worse, and then the network can't move forward. Plus, would we want to keep other long-running shows such as Law & Order: SVU, CSI: Las Vegas, The Big Bang Theory, or even Grey's Anatomy and Once Upon a Time for another 20+ years?

You're just gonna have to learn to let things go and move on; Stop living in the past. Television is a BUSINESS, and throughout history, each of the Big 4 networks have gotten over the loss of some of their biggest scripted shows when they ceased being first-run. The networks just continue to operate regardless of whether their biggest scripted TV shows (i.e. Friends, ER, and The Office on NBC) continue to be first-run or not. Every scripted TV show has to quit producing original episodes sooner or later. That's business, that's life. The past is the past, and in the broadcast TV business, we have to create, build, and push brand-new shows, and older shows retire for this "pushing" of new shows to be effective.

Again, TV is a business, not a haven for old and tired animated "floating timeline" shows, nor is it a charity for fans of such shows.

I agree. In the long run, all of The Simpsons episodes will not be available in syndication. 560+ is too many episodes. Local affiliates (stations) prefer shows to have no more than 120 to 170 episodes for syndication, because they want something they can repeat several times. Most local stations don't make a dime on syndication until an episode has aired at least 6 times, and the sooner they arrive at that number the better.,,,and richer...they are.

Case in point: GUNSMOKE ran 20 years and produced over 600 episodes from 1955 to 1975. Most of the episodes that have been in syndication (predominantly) are the episodes produced from 1967 to 1975. Now, this has to do with the fact that the show did have format changes over the years (30 minutes to 1 hour and then b/w to color) but still, too many episodes to syndicate in one package.

EmoJoe
03-13-2014, 01:26 AM
Let's hope they choose the first 9 years of The Simpsons and forget the rest exist.

ThomasE
03-13-2014, 01:28 AM
No....I like the later seasons and like how the show changes with the times. I like the first seasons as well. They are shown here in NYC. Eps from the early 90's so they are not forgotten and then the later eps from the past three years air as well.

irehtman
03-19-2014, 07:32 AM
ABC is having problems with its own all shows right now, according to the Futon Critic.

comedyfreak
03-19-2014, 12:51 PM
Another veteran series is not coming back next season: It was confirmed today that the FOX sitcom Raising Hope has been FIRED after four seasons, and its last episode (one-hour) will air on April 4, 2014.
That's really a shame the show is still very much funny.

liane49
03-25-2014, 01:47 PM
If I had to pick ONE new fall sitcom from CBS for a renewal for next season, it would probably be The Millers. The other two new sitcoms, The Crazy Ones and Mom, will probably be cancelled in May (the latter due to low ratings). Plus, I haven't seen one critical review for Mom.

Also, I have all but given up on The Michael J. Fox Show. Last episode I watched was the Christmas episode on 12 December. I wanted to get into at least one single-camera sitcom, only for this to be a failure in viewership. TMJFS will probably be cancelled after one season in May because of the extremely low viewership.

The ratings for Two and a Half Men have been pretty bad this season (the most recent episode, aired two weeks ago, had just a 1.9 rating in the 18-49 demo). If CBS were to make a decision on the future of Two and a Half Men right now, they would either decide to end the show with the still-in-progress 11th season, with just eight to ten episodes left to produce, or renew Two and a Half Men for an abbreviated 12th and final season of between 12 to 18 episodes. If they choose the latter, TaaHM would probably return at midseason, likely taking over for a new sitcom that doesn't receive a full-season order and gets cancelled. Either way, they'll try to bring back former star Angus Turner Jones for the final episode. How will this series end? I have no idea, but I guess anything can happen on the final farewell episodes of the best scripted TV shows.
Mom is a Chuck Lorrie show and don't those usually last a long time?

James28
03-25-2014, 11:46 PM
^^Yeah, but CBS always renews for the next season most of their roster of primetime shows every March, thereby making it tougher every year to new primetime shows to make the grade at CBS every year.

Mom did get renewed for next season, though.

James28
03-27-2014, 09:42 PM
ABC's Mind Games is pulled form the schedule and FIRED after five episodes, effective immediately.

Also, the network has announced that Once Upon a Time in Wonderland will be permanently gone from new episodes after the initial 13; the series finale will air on April 4.

James28
04-06-2014, 04:13 PM
I was leaning towards Community getting a final sixth season, but Community being cancelled after its current Season 5 is looking inevitable now. Its episode on April 3 had a 0.9 rating. This isn't helped by the fact that Sony owns Community and is not an in-house production, so there is no financial incentive to keep the show's original run going. Things ain't looking too good.

irehtman
04-06-2014, 06:13 PM
We just have fight harder on Community for the next two weeks.

Nyan
04-08-2014, 10:31 AM
I like Almost Human. I hope it does come back.

LOL. Almost Human fans and their pipe dreams. The stupid show is getting canceled, deal with it.

comedyfreak
04-08-2014, 12:07 PM
LOL. Almost Human fans and their pipe dreams. The stupid show is getting canceled, deal with it.
That was flat out rude and uncalled for.:rolleyes:

king of comedy
04-08-2014, 05:57 PM
That was flat out rude and uncalled for.:rolleyes:
Thank you Comedy Freak. Don't be a jerk Nyan. It is a great show and I hope it gets move to the Syfy channel if it does get cancel.

James28
04-11-2014, 06:41 PM
Law & Order: SVU in danger of being cancelled? Any renewal of SVU for next season is complicated by financial issues. Dick Wolf is a man who can't afford to take a pay cut. L&O:SVU is the longest-running non-animated series in broadcast TV right now, and is the last remaining live-action show that launched in the 20th century; it produced over 340 original episodes over 15 seasons. I'd be willing to have just one more season of L&O: SVU. An SVU cancellation will make me wish that The Simpsons were removed from first-run status by 2016.

L&O SVU, to me, is starting to look line "the The Simpsons of NBC". Only that The Simpsons is a "bad guy", and SVU is a "good guy". The Simpsons is like this evil juggernaut that every other network TV program has to fight against, and those "other network TV programs" can ill-afford to lose the battle/war.

king of comedy
04-11-2014, 08:10 PM
I would like to see Dick Wolf concentrate on Chicago Fire. It deserves more attention. Law and Order: SVU has had a good enough run to last in reruns.

lucyandethel
04-16-2014, 08:34 PM
Community was never a big ratings winner. It got a lot of hype in the media, but no one watched it. Same with "The Office". Ran for 9 years but most shows don't run half that long on those kinds of ratings.

lucyandethel
04-16-2014, 08:36 PM
I really think Law & Order SVU is done. Scripts are just so ridiculous now, and they are resorting to graphic visuals and words that are pushing the envelope to stay interesting. Needs to go.

They should have just brought in another male lead after Meloni left. Now they have Giddish and Pino and the show feels unfocused now.

icecream
04-16-2014, 08:39 PM
Community was never a big ratings winner. It got a lot of hype in the media, but no one watched it. Same with "The Office". Ran for 9 years but most shows don't run half that long on those kinds of ratings.The Office was one of the highest rated comedies in the 18-49 demo until Steve Carell left.

Cyrax
04-19-2014, 12:53 AM
I'm really surprised that Mixology is being considered for a renewal with such lackluster ratings:

http://www.deadline.com/2014/04/mixology-renewal-near-abc-comedies-trophy-wife-neighbors/

tlc38tlc38
04-19-2014, 08:09 AM
Has The Neighbors been cancelled or renewed? Any news yet?

benjamoon
04-19-2014, 03:53 PM
Has The Neighbors been cancelled or renewed? Any news yet?

Nothing official yet, but it's not looking good

irehtman
04-22-2014, 08:03 AM
Mixiology doesn't deserve to get renewed at all and that show is completely messed up like what the heck?!

Yong Fang
04-25-2014, 06:39 AM
That makes sense.

I remember as a child talking about Gunsmoke with my father that Festus was my favorite character, while my father preferred Chester. I thought to myself "Who is Chester?" since the reruns were the hour color ones after Dennis Weaver left the show.

The Simpsons should have been cancelled years ago, as in 10 plus years ago. If I were a local affiliate, I would rerun the first 10 seasons, and not anything really past the year 2000.

Tubehead
04-26-2014, 01:33 AM
DOES any one know if resurrection is getting cancelled? also does any one know if the tomorrow people are being cancelled?

icecream
04-26-2014, 12:33 PM
Resurrection is getting renewed for sure. Its ratings have been great, although dropping each week is a concern.

IllinoisTVFan
04-26-2014, 02:44 PM
ABC is being weird. They haven't renewed anything yet it seems. All of the articles I have found about bubble shows seem to concentrate on ABC. I wonder if they are waiting until upfronts.

icecream
04-26-2014, 02:50 PM
ABC is being weird. They haven't renewed anything yet it seems. All of the articles I have found about bubble shows seem to concentrate on ABC. I wonder if they are waiting until upfronts.The last few years their renewals didn't come until a few days before upfronts. It's annoying, but they're probably continuing like that this year.

IllinoisTVFan
04-26-2014, 03:00 PM
That's what I'm thinking too. I am curious to see what they are keeping because they apparently have a lot of shows on the bubble. I started watching two new ABC shows this year: The Goldbergs and Trophy Wife and expect them to renew Goldbergs but cancel Trophy Wife.

icecream
04-26-2014, 04:06 PM
What I would say are the renewal chances for ABC shows
Modern Family 100%
Scandal 100%
Grey's Anatomy 100%-will this be cancelled when all the Sandra Oh fans leave?
Once Upon a Time 100%
Resurrection 100%
Shark Tank 100%
Marvel's Agents of Shield 100%
The Middle 100%
Dancing with the Stars 100% (could be cut down to one cycle a year)
The Bachelor 100% :wallbang
20/20 100%
America's Funniest Home Videos 100%- (might be the final season with Tom Bergeron leaving)
Revenge 95%
Castle 90%
Last Man Standing 90%
The Goldbergs 80%
Suburgatory 60%
Nashville 45%
The Black Box 30%
Trophy Wife 15%
The Neighbors 5%
Mixology 0%
Celebrity Wife Swap 0%- get rid of this trash, it's not even a hit like The Bachelor

James28
04-29-2014, 10:24 PM
The FOX-BC drama Almost Human is officially cancelled.

http://www.deadline.com/2014/04/fox-drama-almost-human-cancelled/

king of comedy
04-30-2014, 06:24 AM
I loved that show. It should have been moved to Syfy.

James28
05-05-2014, 04:57 PM
Networks' upfront presentations are next week (From May 12 to 15), so this week must be "Network TV Spring Cleaning Week". That is where we're gonna learn what pilots are being picked up, what series were renewed and what is cancelled,

James28
05-07-2014, 09:28 PM
The casts and crew members of Dads, Enlisted, Surviving Jack, and Rake are cleaning out their desks, because the four TV shows have been cancelled by FOX after one season.

James28
05-08-2014, 03:31 PM
Dumped by the CW network today are The Carrie Diaries, Star-Crossed, and The Tomorrow People.

irehtman
05-08-2014, 04:53 PM
CW is no longer a comedy network anymore, it will remain forever a drama network.

ABC is having a hard time deciding which to renew or cancel.

yankeesrj12
05-08-2014, 05:27 PM
CW is no longer a comedy network anymore, it will remain forever a drama network.

ABC is having a hard time deciding which to renew or cancel.
The CW has Backpackers and Seed on their summer schedule - both comedies.

James28
05-09-2014, 02:13 PM
ABC Network has fired The Neighbors, Mixology, and Trophy Wife.

mets82
05-09-2014, 02:49 PM
Never saw Mixlogy but looked ok. I thought the CW was going rebrand themselves with comedies. I thought I read it on here or some where or maybe I'm mistaken.

James28
05-09-2014, 02:56 PM
NBC's Community is permanently gone from new episodes after five seasons. Also out of the NBC locker room is Revolution.

irehtman
05-09-2014, 06:48 PM
Community should have move to TBS instead rather than staying dead forever.

EmoJoe
05-09-2014, 10:39 PM
There are rumors Hulu might pick it up and make new episodes. I am not super hopeful. Hopefully we at least get a movie, though.

Mr. Television
05-09-2014, 11:18 PM
well I'm glad I dumped Revolution then. The 2nd season wasn't as good as the first.

comedyfreak
05-10-2014, 03:49 AM
The casts and crew members of Dads, Enlisted, Surviving Jack, and Rake are cleaning out their desks, because the four TV shows have been cancelled by FOX after one season.
FOX is so stupid, Surviving Jack is actually a funny show.

James28
05-10-2014, 04:26 AM
To the unemployment line is where the cast and crew of ABC's Suburgatory are going after three seasons and 57 episodes. Joining it is Super Fun Night, after one 17-episodes season.

NBC's Believe and Crisis are dead. Growing up Fisher is expelled from the active roster, also.

irehtman
05-10-2014, 06:49 AM
FOX is so stupid, Surviving Jack is actually a funny show.

NBC is more stupid than FOX, they just cancelled both Community and Growing Up Fisher in the wrong time.

Both NBC and FOX were put under a bad recession, but I have feeling NBC is in deep pain than FOX because they spend too much money for the Winter Olympics.

comedyfreak
05-10-2014, 07:58 AM
Growing up Fisher was a good show too, it's a shame.

IllinoisTVFan
05-10-2014, 02:30 PM
'The Crazy Ones,' 'Friends With Better Lives,' 'Intelligence,' 'Bad Teacher' & 'Hostages' Canceled By CBS.

Surprised about the Crazy Ones, thought that was doing okay? then again CBS has higher standards where a menial show will be renewed on another station but a modest hit will be cancelled by CBS.

icecream
05-10-2014, 04:22 PM
NBC has bitten Dracula, it is cancelled.

tlc38tlc38
05-10-2014, 06:19 PM
I highly doubt The Neighbors will get picked up by another network but one can hope. As of now, the only returning shows I will watch are: Revenge, Once Upon a Time, 2 Broke Girls, & Scandal. I will also watch Mistresses this summer. I'm also looking forward to the return of Kirstie to TV Land.

James28
05-11-2014, 08:36 PM
After next season (its 7th, during 2014-15), Parks and Recreation will itself be gone from new episodes permanently. To return in midseason. It'll soon join The Office and 30 Rock up in television heaven.

James28
06-17-2014, 10:03 PM
A complete list of series that were cancelled or retired after the 2013-14 Broadcast TV season

ABC
The Assets
Back in the Game
Betrayal
Killer Women
Lucky 7
Mind Games
Mixology
The Neighbors
Once Upon a Time in Wonderland
Suburgatory
Super Fun Night
Trophy Wife

CBS
Bad Teacher
The Crazy Ones
Friends With Better Lives
Hostages
How I Met Your Mother (finished)
Intelligence
We Are Men

The CW
The Carrie Diaries
Nikita (finished)
Star-Crossed
The Tomorrow People

FOX
Almost Human
American Dad (jumped to TBS)
Dads
Enlisted
Murder Police (never aired)
Raising Hope
Rake
Surviving Jack
Us & Them (never aired)
The X Factor

NBC
Believe
Community
Crisis
Dracula
Growing Up Fisher
Ironside
The Michael J. Fox Show
Revolution
Sean Saves the World
Welcome to the Family

king of comedy
06-18-2014, 06:48 AM
Some deserved a chance. Almost Human was one of them.