I'm surprised going through the pages on this board that a large chunk of threads are devoted to the unsolved murders and it seems there is little attention paid to the other large portion of this show which was the UFO and ghost segments. There are a lot of UFO/Ghost segments that are disturbing and compelling and deserve long threads as well. Anyone feel the UFO and ghost segments are underrated on this board?

Anyone feel the UFO and ghost segments are underrated on this board?


No.








Ok, I definitely have UFO and ghost segments that I enjoy. Some I even revisit occasionally, like the segments about Missing Time and the St. James Hotel. But mostly, not much my thing personally.

I am not sure why people dislike the UFO segments so much. Sure some of them like UFO Healing and Men in Black were stupid, but many of them were extremely well done and well executed and really make you think


Like


-Roswell UFO
-Kecksburg UFO - the best one IMO
-Valentich disappearance
- Betty Cash and Vicki Landrum encountering a UFO
- Allagash Abductions
-Missing Time
-Danny Gordon Wytheville UFO sightings and claims of subsequent harassment
-Socorro ,New Mexico UFO
-Belgium UFO
-Candian UFO (even though it is likely a hoax it is still a well done segment)

I feel that each episode of the vintage UM wove tapestry of both creepiness and cheesiness, and that unique combination is what made the show so special.
To that end, the UFO and other unexplained phenomena are vital elements in the UM spectrum. All of the segments, regardless of the firmness of their basis in reality, contributed to the wonderful weirdness of this show.

I truly wish that the general fanbase's focus here was on preservation of each of this show's episodes in their entirety. In the years I have spent trying to complete the UM library, I have come across maybe five uncut episodes (none from this message board, mind you,) while fan-made compilations of segments with random edits seem to dominate the trading market.
The general sentiment I have found behind such comps is that those who edited them "just don't like" some segments, which really sucks for those fans, like myself, that truly appreciate seeing the shows presented as they were intended to be seen, in all their uncut glory.

I don't believe ghosts are real, so I don't care about those segments. When UM was on and they showed a ghost segment, I could probably get through 10 seconds and then I'd have to skip it.

With the UFO's, I believe there's other life out there, but they've never made contact with earth. But at least I can say that something happened in those events. Most likely just some secret military operation.

Some of the ghost segments were believable. I just don't see how there could be any meaningful discussion on this board about ghost segments. What's there to discuss? You either believe the person or you don't. Once you get beyond that, there's really nothing more. As for the UFO's, while I do believe that people have seen them (I don't think aliens are the ones piloting them), I guess they don't get much discussion on here for the same reason as the ghost segments. There's really not much to discuss.

I am not sure why people dislike the UFO segments so much. Sure some of them like UFO Healing and Men in Black were stupid, but many of them were extremely well done and well executed and really make you think


Like


-Roswell UFO
-Kecksburg UFO - the best one IMO
-Valentich disappearance
- Betty Cash and Vicki Landrum encountering a UFO
- Allagash Abductions
-Missing Time
-Danny Gordon Wytheville UFO sightings and claims of subsequent harassment
-Socorro ,New Mexico UFO
-Belgium UFO
-Candian UFO (even though it is likely a hoax it is still a well done segment)

I feel the beauty of a message board such as this is that we all get a chance to be an armchair detective, scrounging up possible real life evidence in hopes to solve a crime or mystery. There is very little chance of actually solving a ghost/ufo mystery, therefore as mentioned those types of cases being discussed less.

I actually like the majority of the ghosts and UFO segments, but feel that a lot of them are best watched within the context of a full episode. Like the lost love and miracles segments, they can sometimes provide a nice breather from the murder and missing persons cases.

This is why I never liked their decision to release DVD sets made up entirely of ghosts and UFO segments. I can watch UM for several hours at a time, but watching a non-stop string of supernatural segments can get pretty tiresome. In particular, the miracles DVD set gets old REAL fast after you watch too many of those segments in a row.

I will say though that UM's first all-ghosts special (featuring the Queen Mary, Tallman's Ghost, the General Wayne Inn, and Tatum's Ghost) is still one of my favourite hours of TV ever!

I enjoy them, but they aren't really discussion material like the missing/unsolved murders are. There isn't much to say beyond 'that was cool' or 'that was scary' and since this is a discussion board, they rightly don't get the focus of the other topics that have more to discuss.

I love the ghost segments.. the UFO ones are alright. I do like the Alagash Abuduction because I find it funny when one of em says “If you wanna believe us, that’s ok. If not, I DON’T CARE. Cause it DID happen” lol just thought it was funny how angry he seemed saying it

(I for one don’t believe them btw)

I actually like the majority of the ghosts and UFO segments, but feel that a lot of them are best watched within the context of a full episode. Like the lost love and miracles segments, they can sometimes provide a nice breather from the murder and missing persons cases.

This is why I never liked their decision to release DVD sets made up entirely of ghosts and UFO segments. I can watch UM for several hours at a time, but watching a non-stop string of supernatural segments can get pretty tiresome. In particular, the miracles DVD set gets old REAL fast after you watch too many of those segments in a row.

I will say though that UM's first all-ghosts special (featuring the Queen Mary, Tallman's Ghost, the General Wayne Inn, and Tatum's Ghost) is still one of my favourite hours of TV ever!

Once again, RobinW sums things up far better than I ever could. This, all of it.

I also like some of the treasure segments (Victorio Peak comes to mind), and many of the Lost Heir segments (Dan Willans). I also totally enjoy Lost Love stories, especially since the update history for those is a little patchier than what we have for some of the other segments. I'm always learning new things about Lost Love segments.

If I had to choose between ghosts and UFOs however, I'd definitely go with UFOs.

I actually like the majority of the ghosts and UFO segments, but feel that a lot of them are best watched within the context of a full episode.

This is exactly what I was thinking. Almost all the lost loves, lost heirs, ghosts, UFO's, treasure, and sci-med segments are not stand alone segments, IMO. But watched within a full epiosde, they offer some sort of break from the freaky missing or unexplained death segments.

Not a fan of UFOs but the Ghost segments were my favorite. Although I tend to agree that they are bad for discussion as opposed to crime segments.

I'm surprised going through the pages on this board that a large chunk of threads are devoted to the unsolved murders and it seems there is little attention paid to the other large portion of this show which was the UFO and ghost segments. There are a lot of UFO/Ghost segments that are disturbing and compelling and deserve long threads as well. Anyone feel the UFO and ghost segments are underrated on this board?

I didnt buy into the UFO storys but some of the Ghosts Stories were genuiely creepy and some seemed very fake in my opinion.

I actually like the majority of the ghosts and UFO segments, but feel that a lot of them are best watched within the context of a full episode. Like the lost love and miracles segments, they can sometimes provide a nice breather from the murder and missing persons cases.

This is why I never liked their decision to release DVD sets made up entirely of ghosts and UFO segments. I can watch UM for several hours at a time, but watching a non-stop string of supernatural segments can get pretty tiresome. In particular, the miracles DVD set gets old REAL fast after you watch too many of those segments in a row.

I will say though that UM's first all-ghosts special (featuring the Queen Mary, Tallman's Ghost, the General Wayne Inn, and Tatum's Ghost) is still one of my favourite hours of TV ever!


The Ghost Specials were excellent.

Some of the ghost segments were believable. I just don't see how there could be any meaningful discussion on this board about ghost segments. What's there to discuss? You either believe the person or you don't. Once you get beyond that, there's really nothing more. As for the UFO's, while I do believe that people have seen them (I don't think aliens are the ones piloting them), I guess they don't get much discussion on here for the same reason as the ghost segments. There's really not much to discuss.

Precisely ! :)

The thing about fugitives and unsolved murders is that there are quite a few pissible theories about the crime/criminal/victim hence there is more room for discussion,speculation and theories which is what drives this forum ....

Precisely ! :)

The thing about fugitives and unsolved murders is that there are quite a few pissible theories about the crime/criminal/victim hence there is more room for discussion,speculation and theories which is what drives this forum ....

I know I have seen some theories on here that need to be peed on! :lol: Seriously, though, I like the UFO segments and I love the ghost segments, but I agree with others who said that they don't leave much for discussion.

I actually like the majority of the ghosts and UFO segments, but feel that a lot of them are best watched within the context of a full episode. Like the lost love and miracles segments, they can sometimes provide a nice breather from the murder and missing persons cases.

This is why I never liked their decision to release DVD sets made up entirely of ghosts and UFO segments. I can watch UM for several hours at a time, but watching a non-stop string of supernatural segments can get pretty tiresome. In particular, the miracles DVD set gets old REAL fast after you watch too many of those segments in a row.

I will say though that UM's first all-ghosts special (featuring the Queen Mary, Tallman's Ghost, the General Wayne Inn, and Tatum's Ghost) is still one of my favourite hours of TV ever!


UFOs and Ghosts are extremely popular. It would be foolish not to make DVD sets of those. I would bet anything the UFO set was the highest selling of the sets released. The UFO DVD was also easily the best set released due to the fact it had pretty much every UFO segment UM did

UFOs and Ghosts are extremely popular. It would be foolish not to make DVD sets of those. I would bet anything the UFO set was the highest selling of the sets released. The UFO DVD was also easily the best set released due to the fact it had pretty much every UFO segment UM did

I agree that certain UFO segments were popular, but IMO the bread and butter of UM were the missing, unexplained death, and murder segments.

The General Wayne Inn segment is a barrel of laughs.

The part where the picture on the tv screen starts to rotate, and the crowd (in unison) rotates their heads along with it. Now if they managed to rotate their heads all the way around a la the Exorcist, then I really would have been impressed.

I also like the part where the spirit goes down one side of the bar and blows on the ears of all the ladies and the bartender stands back and watches in amusement. It's funny how irritated the women get, as if blowing on someone's ear was some hugely objectionable offense that warranted a slap in the face.

Incidentally, City Confidential did an episode on this place. There was a murder there, adding to its creepiness.

The General Wayne Inn segment is a barrel of laughs.

The part where the picture on the tv screen starts to rotate, and the crowd (in unison) rotates their heads along with it. Now if they managed to rotate their heads all the way around a la the Exorcist, then I really would have been impressed.

I love that part. :lol:

I know I have seen some theories on here that need to be peed on! :lol: Seriously, though, I like the UFO segments and I love the ghost segments, but I agree with others who said that they don't leave much for discussion.


Peed on ! :lol: :lol: Yeah , there is a lot to like about ghost stories but the Resurrection Mary story might qualify for being peed on :lol:

I was only scared by the supernatural episodes when I was a kid. When I grew up, they lost their magic, probably due to the fact that I had formed explanations of those occurrences according to my world view, and therefore they no longer held that air of mystery. It's like someone said earlier, you either agree with these stories or you don't. Hearing Robert Stack tell you that there are wanted killers still out there somewhere though... that's the kind of scary that makes you booby trap the house before going to bed, no matter how old you are!

I feel that each episode of the vintage UM wove tapestry of both creepiness and cheesiness, and that unique combination is what made the show so special.
To that end, the UFO and other unexplained phenomena are vital elements in the UM spectrum. All of the segments, regardless of the firmness of their basis in reality, contributed to the wonderful weirdness of this show..

This. I also enjoyed learning about the folklore that, in part, fueled some of the ghost/UFO/unidentified creature/miracles/lost treasure segments, even if I don't necessarily believe the events themselves are supernatural in origin.

As someone who both believes in ghosts and is open to the idea of UFOs, as well as having often been scared by the ghost segments as a kid, I find most of them to just be plain cheesy now. That said, there are definitely some ghost and UFO segments that I still enjoy.

Tallman's Ghost is one and another that honestly still creeps me out quite a bit is the one about the Wyrick house. I don't remember the name of the segment about that house, but something about the way that segment was filmed always causes me to look over my shoulder, just in case! Another one that I've always liked is the one about the La Posada hotel.

As for the UFO segments, definitely not as big of a fan of those as I am of other segments, but a couple of those stick out to me too. One is the Allagash Abductions. I've always found their hypnosis sessions to be pretty unnerving. Another is the case of Betty Cash and Vicki Landrum, the two women and the grandson of Vicki who encountered a possible UFO that gave all of them radiation sickness and Betty died of cancer 18 years to the day of their encounter.

Thing is with the ghost and UFO stories, I think they are easy to be hoaxes and to me, that takes away from all of them as far as being legitimate goes. Also with the UFO segments, I do think that a good number of the sightings are military aircraft sightings.

Look at some of the planes we know the military flies, like the F-117A Nighthawk and B-2 Spirit. Not to say that those are inspired by some kind of secretly captured alien UFOs or any of that other conspiracy theory crap that could come from such a statement, but I can see how if seen in the night sky, one might think it's a UFO, and in a case like that, I can also understand why the military might deny that anything happened.

If you were the military and you were testing new aircraft to use against potential future enemies, would you want to admit to everyone publicly that you're testing something new for future use or would you rather keep it a secret? Of course, that could lead to military/government cover ups and I don't think this is the thread for that sort of thing, nor do I feel like discussing that in depth.

But basically, that's why I always have some doubt about most supposed UFO segments.

I think the reason there is 'no love' isn't the segment themselves (many are actually UM classics, especially 'Missing Time' but others as well such as Allagash and several more), but that they are the most replayed. There isn't much to talk about - you either believe the stories or you don't. Most of them to my knowledge were released on DVD - very few of these segments are rare (with the exception of ones like Gulf Breeze UFOs). But with alot of the crime ones, several aired only a few times.

If there are any segments that get no love here, they are the lost loves and missing heirs segments. I have to confess that when I was young I groaned at alot of the 'heartwarming reunions', and most of the missing heir cases were dull.

I think the reason there is 'no love' isn't the segment themselves (many are actually UM classics, especially 'Missing Time' but others as well such as Allagash and several more), but that they are the most replayed. There isn't much to talk about - you either believe the stories or you don't. Most of them to my knowledge were released on DVD - very few of these segments are rare (with the exception of ones like Gulf Breeze UFOs). But with alot of the crime ones, several aired only a few times.

If there are any segments that get no love here, they are the lost loves and missing heirs segments. I have to confess that when I was young I groaned at alot of the 'heartwarming reunions', and most of the missing heir cases were dull.

I liked a lot of the missing heir segments, because a lot of the people featured had ambiguous pasts and the whole point of the segment was trying to find out who they really were. I thought it was perfect for UM.

It's kinda hard to have ANY love for the Gulf Breeze UFO segment now we know the entire thing was a big fat lie! :mad:

If there are any segments that get no love here, they are the lost loves and missing heirs segments. I have to confess that when I was young I groaned at alot of the 'heartwarming reunions', and most of the missing heir cases were dull.


I tend to agree, but I did appreciate them in a weird way when I watched the show as a kid.

After a solid hour of unsolved murders, disappearances, violent robberies and ghosts and aliens (which freaked me out as a child), it was always nice to have a "soothing" segment where nothing creepy happened, as the last thing I watched before going to bed! ;)

I would like to say that Sci-Med was definitely a category that got no love for no reason--but in all fairness, there were some pretty stupid segments (ahemaphrodisiacs).

Others, however, were very important--and very interesting, to me anyway. Christina Smith and the Santos family come to mind.

I would like to say that Sci-Med was definitely a category that got no love for no reason--but in all fairness, there were some pretty stupid segments (ahemaphrodisiacs).


How could anyone NOT like this segment? You get to hear The Stack talk about "succulent oysters provoking thoughts of sex!" :crazy: :lol:

I would like to say that Sci-Med was definitely a category that got no love for no reason--but in all fairness, there were some pretty stupid segments (ahemaphrodisiacs).

I find the Amnesia cases very interesting and wish UM had devoted more time to the category. They did a handful throughout the years, but several of them were very short in length.

I watched an intriguing one on Disappeared yesterday. It was the case of Amber Gerweck, who disappeared from Jackson, MI (about 20 minutes from where I live). She was a mother of 4, had a good job and was also taking a college course. She abruptly left her apartment one day while studying. It was discovered she traveled to Georgia (about 35 minutes from where her parents lived) and made purchases at a general store, but apparently never made contact with her parents despite traveling over 600 miles to be in their area. She was found in Joliet, IL and she claims to have amnesia.

It was said that the amenisa Amber suffers from (if she is telling the truth) is Transient Global Amenisa, which is extremely rare. It was theorized she may have been attacked while taking a break from studying (she went to a convenience store nearby just before her amnesia).

I find the Amnesia cases very interesting and wish UM had devoted more time to the category. They did a handful throughout the years, but several of them were very short in length.

I watched an intriguing one on Disappeared yesterday. It was the case of Amber Gerweck, who disappeared from Jackson, MI (about 20 minutes from where I live). She was a mother of 4, had a good job and was also taking a college course. She abruptly left her apartment one day while studying. It was discovered she traveled to Georgia (about 35 minutes from where her parents lived) and made purchases at a general store, but apparently never made contact with her parents despite traveling over 600 miles to be in their area. She was found in Joliet, IL and she claims to have amnesia.

It was said that the amenisa Amber suffers from (if she is telling the truth) is Transient Global Amenisa, which is extremely rare. It was theorized she may have been attacked while taking a break from studying (she went to a convenience store nearby just before her amnesia).

Eh, I tend to automatically roll my eyes when these come up.

Any surprises that the many of the cases profiled once they regain their memory the authorities are looking for them for some reason?

Also, if they cannot even remember their name how can they remember how to speak English? Drive? Read? Or write?

But yeah... Ghosts segments... I don't quite understand the "ghost hypothesis" here. Unlike wanted people or missing people there is no concrete way for it to be conclusively proven.

Like the modern ghost hunters running around the dark scaring each other with questionable "ghost hunting" equipment (How was it calibrated? With a known ghost?).

There is a temperature difference in a corner or electromagnetic spike. It must be the disembodied "spirit", whatever that is, of a person that died. How can that possibly be conclusive if we allow that electromagnetic and temperature changes occurs for reasons other than ghosts?

It's like hearing hooves on pavement up a street. They think unicorns. I think horses.

Within the context of a UM episode I definitely don't mind the ghost segments taken as a whole with an episode.

I consider myself a ghosts skeptic to be sure but as a cultural fixture I think that people find the idea reassuring in a life after death.

Eh, I tend to automatically roll my eyes when these come up.

Any surprises that the many of the cases profiled once they regain their memory the authorities are looking for them for some reason?

Also, if they cannot even remember their name how can they remember how to speak English? Drive? Read? Or write?

That isn't how amnesia--retrograde or anterograde--works. You don't "brain dump" and lose the capacity to recall everything. The complexity and individuality of each human brain and each human being guarantee that won't happen. Rather, it's only pieces of information that are lost, specifically in the case of retrograde amnesia (anterograde refers to a problem moving short-term memory into long-term memory). Most of the UM amnesia segments revolved around alleged retrograde cases.

I will concede that there were more than a few fugitives who "forgot" they had committed crimes. But that doesn't mean amnesia is not an actual condition, or that some individuals featured on the show were not suffering from it. Susan Laferte and Pat Carlton come to mind.

I don't mean to derail here...

But your name is a word that you have associated with yourself maybe before you could even produce coherent sentences or other skills which those profiled seem to retain. I find it very suspect that the cases that I have seen profiled the person's name could not be recalled.

I don't mean to derail here...

But your name is a word that you have associated with yourself maybe before you could even produce coherent sentences or other skills which those profiled seem to retain. I find it very suspect that the cases that I have seen profiled the person's name could not be recalled.

It is entirely possible someone could forget his or her own name yet remember how to drive a car. The two are totally different forms of long-term memory.

Remembering one's own name falls under explicit memory, and is further sub-categorized under semantic memory, which is associated with linking words and the concepts they represent. Driving a car or piloting an aircraft is implicit, or unconscious memory, and is further sub-categorized under procedural memory. Explicit memory and implicit memory are encoded by, and stored in, completely different areas of the brain. In fact, "higher knowledge and skills" such as reasoning and language comprehension are encoded by a much younger (evolutionarily speaking) portion of the brain than are things like brushing your teeth, or tying your shoes. In fact, some of the structures of the brain that encode for these things are often referred to as the "reptilian brain".

Also, the period of time a memory has been held prior to the causation event is irrelevant.

Insult or damage to the Wernicke's area could also cause a symptom that looks like a person has forgotten his or her name, when in fact his or her ability to comprehend spoken and written language has been impaired. It is not, strictly speaking, amnesia.

That makes a fair amount of sense. I think it was Broca's Brain by Carl Sagan that goes into what you are describing.

It would almost seem to me that my name would be something that is very nearly hardwired into me... maybe before 'language'. I can be in a social loud situation with numerous conversations going on all around and if my name is mentioned I'd pick it up. I think this is pretty common. It's a simple word that has been associated with "me" since any memory.

Perhaps that is why the amnesia patients need a trigger to recall anything meaningful.

Back on topic...

The only compelling UFO segment to me is the Belgian UFO segment and that is simply because of the variety of witnesses.

UFO does not exclusively mean "alien spaceship" to me. It means something in the sky and there's no immediate explanation. Something strange and not normally seen could get reported and someone will "remember" that it made strange maneuvers and suddenly you have another UFO flap. Sizes of objects in the sky at unknown altitudes are impossible to determine.

I love the UFO segments though. I am skeptical that they are of an other-worldly source but I do like the segments.

The alien abduction segments scared me more as kid than anything else. My mother is Korean and in the late 80's/early 90s she use to watch Lifetime because her English was limited and chick shows need little in the way of translation. She would eventually fall asleep and I would stay up and watch UM. I remember seeing the Weiner segment and being so scared I couldn't even move.

The alien abduction segments scared me more as kid than anything else. My mother is Korean and in the late 80's/early 90s she use to watch Lifetime because her English was limited and chick shows need little in the way of translation. She would eventually fall asleep and I would stay up and watch UM. I remember seeing the Weiner segment and being so scared I couldn't even move.

That one still kind of freaks me out, actually--although now, instead of worrying about aliens, I'm disturbed at the stories. What could cause people to claim those experiences and give those reports? Even if the whole thing was a complete, deliberate fabrication--and I don't think it is--it's still pretty disturbing.

(OT: I came back from Daegu about a month ago. Spent a couple of days in Seoul as well. It was my first time in Korea and I loved it there.)

OMG, that Amber chick on "Disappeared" was a crazy-train. For real. I don't believe her for a second. IMO, she wanted to take off, try something new, and when it didn't work out and/or she wasn't given the attention she wanted, she magically showed up. That biatch is CRAZAY! :)

OMG, that Amber chick on "Disappeared" was a crazy-train. For real. I don't believe her for a second. IMO, she wanted to take off, try something new, and when it didn't work out and/or she wasn't given the attention she wanted, she magically showed up. That biatch is CRAZAY! :)

I did some research online last night. I discovered that she once abadoned her 4 kids and cheated on her husband. Her own daughter doesn't believe her amnesia claims. The disappeared show tried to pass her claims off as legit, but after finding out more info, I agree with you -- she's going off the rails on the crazy train!

That one still kind of freaks me out, actually--although now, instead of worrying about aliens, I'm disturbed at the stories. What could cause people to claim those experiences and give those reports? Even if the whole thing was a complete, deliberate fabrication--and I don't think it is--it's still pretty disturbing.

(OT: I came back from Daegu about a month ago. Spent a couple of days in Seoul as well. It was my first time in Korea and I loved it there.)

I tend to agree, I don't think it is a complete fabrication but I also don't think 4 guys were abducted by aliens while on a fishing trip. I think that the hypnotist played a not insignificant part in 'leading' the guys into their story.

I think I remember the hypnotist asking 'Do these beings (beings already implying "alien") appear to be from Earth or elsewhere?". Talk about a leading question. It reminds me of a lot of the 90's Satanic Panic "recovered memory" crap that was going on at the time.

What I'm curious to know is why aren't there any reports of animal abductions? Surely, we aren't the only species they'd be interested in examining. No cats, dogs, squirrels. I think the image of a cow being lifted up by one of those beams of light would be pretty wild.

What I'm curious to know is why aren't there any reports of animal abductions? Surely, we aren't the only species they'd be interested in examining. No cats, dogs, squirrels. I think the image of a cow being lifted up by one of those beams of light would be pretty wild.

Moo!
:ufo:

What I don't understand is why there is no apparent indication they're interested in studying the full gamut of the microbial world here on earth. I think that has far more paramount implications for life than the comparatively simplistic way the human reproductive system works (since that's apparently the perceived area of interest).

What I'm curious to know is why aren't there any reports of animal abductions? Surely, we aren't the only species they'd be interested in examining. No cats, dogs, squirrels. I think the image of a cow being lifted up by one of those beams of light would be pretty wild.

This is an excellent point. It's also odd how every "abductee" describes different procedures that were done on them with primative instruments that are similar to what human doctors use. You would think with the technology to be able to travel at the speed of light, they would have better ways of studying things instead of poking and prodding.

Also, the same thing that's been brought up about Bigfoot, in this day in age where everyone has a camera/video recorder on them at all times, don't you think there would be more and more clear shots of flying saucers coming out if they were to truely exist?

This is an excellent point. It's also odd how every "abductee" describes different procedures that were done on them with primative instruments that are similar to what human doctors use. You would think with the technology to be able to travel at the speed of light, they would have better ways of studying things instead of poking and prodding.

Also, the same thing that's been brought up about Bigfoot, in this day in age where everyone has a camera/video recorder on them at all times, don't you think there would be more and more clear shots of flying saucers coming out if they were to truely exist?

I agree, Cars. If extraterrestrial UFO's and Bigfoot are indeed real, why don't they show themselves in public? I also find it hard to believe that with all the technology today, there seems to be no credible evidence that Bigfoot and UFO's exist besides people's accounts and fake videos. The UFO's people claim to see are probably experimental military aircraft. Bigfoot on the other hand, is just overactive imaginations or animals that have been misidentified.