View Full Version : Why didn't they just have Penny's Mother abusing her with a Belt?? The Iron was....


TVFactFan
08-31-2013, 12:35 PM
so unrealistic because the pain would have so unbearable for a child to deal with after having a HOT A$$ Iron on her back lol


I just burnt my hand on a iron last week by a accident and I pulled it back so fast because of how hot it was. So how the hell could a 10 year old girl deal with the pain of burning on her back from a iron?



This show always had to go that extra mile and failed in being realistic

James28
09-02-2013, 01:14 AM
Abusing a person with a belt is one thing, but abusing a person with a hot iron? That is extreme.

TVFactFan
09-02-2013, 01:36 AM
Abusing a person with a belt is one thing, but abusing a person with a hot iron? That is extreme.



Extreme and unrealistic

cleverfun3000
09-02-2013, 09:12 AM
Television shows and movies are normally extreme because of the fact that they need a stronger reaction to get repeated viewing by more viewers. The over the top examples presented regularly are no more than attempts to glue the viewer to the screen in the hopes of making them want to see what happens next. It's not meant to be an accurate reflection of reality. If it was, then it would be called a documentary as opposed to a show.

TVFactFan
09-02-2013, 01:25 PM
Television shows and movies are normally extreme because of the fact that they need a stronger reaction to get repeated viewing by more viewers. The over the top examples presented regularly are no more than attempts to glue the viewer to the screen in the hopes of making them want to see what happens next. It's not meant to be an accurate reflection of reality. If it was, then it would be called a documentary as opposed to a show.


In this case it was TOO EXTREME

Wawwie
09-02-2013, 01:29 PM
In this case it was TOO EXTREME
It was actually sadistic, like the kind of thing a serial killer would do. I think this goes beyond child abuse, and into psychological/physical torture.

TVFactFan
09-02-2013, 01:38 PM
It was actually sadistic, like the kind of thing a serial killer would do. I think this goes beyond child abuse, and into psychological/physical torture.


Exactly, no 10 year can deal with that kind of pain without going to the hospital

yayaya
09-02-2013, 02:31 PM
Unrealistic? Burns to children by iron have happened and continue to happen.

This case from last year. A man burned an infant with an iron:
http://myfox8.com/2012/04/05/police-nc-man-burned-infant-with-iron/

From four years ago, a mother burns her 11 year old daughter on both her arms and on her thighs:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/5252946/

There are lots more stories like those above.

In my line of work, I have heard from therapists and other professionals about children being burned with curling irons, steamed irons and other items such as cigarettes and scalding hot water as forms of punishment which is really abuse.

As for the Penny storyline, I suppose to make the mother look real bad, they went with the iron as a tool of abuse. Also, I think by using a belt, some viewers would probably see nothing wrong with Penny's mother hitting her a belt since a lot of people associate using a belt on a child as an acceptable form of punishment as well as spanking. No one associates using an iron - except those who are child abusers - as an acceptable form of punishment.

yayaya
09-02-2013, 02:36 PM
Unrealistic? Burns to children by iron have happened and continue to happen.

This case from last year. A man burned an infant with an iron:
http://myfox8.com/2012/04/05/police-nc-man-burned-infant-with-iron/

From four years ago, a mother burns her 11 year old daughter on both her arms and on her thighs:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/5252946/

There are lots more stories like those above.

In my line of work, I have heard from therapists and other professionals about children being burned with curling irons, steamed irons and other items such as cigarettes and scalding hot water as forms of punishment which is really abuse.

As for the Penny storyline, I suppose to make the mother look real bad, they went with the iron as a tool of abuse. Also, I think by using a belt, some viewers would probably see nothing wrong with Penny's mother hitting her a belt since a lot of people associate using a belt on a child as an acceptable form of punishment as well as spanking. No one associates using an iron - except those who are child abusers - as an acceptable form of punishment.

Penny was shown to be a liar in order to cover up for her mother and also to live in some sort of fantasy, to get away from the realities of her life. It is possible she could have been taken to a clinic outside of the city and her mother told her to lie about how she got burnt. It is possible to have an iron fall on you accidently. I know, I had one fall on me when I was a little girl. I was messing around near my mom's ironing board while the iron was still on. My friends and I were chasing each other on the ground when I hit the ironing board and the iron fell on the back of my leg. I was taken to the ER. The doctor there mentioned how he had seen several children get burned by an iron. I thought I was the only one to ever get hurt that way.

Mr. Television
09-02-2013, 04:37 PM
Unrealistic? Burns to children by iron have happened and continue to happen.

This case from last year. A man burned an infant with an iron:
http://myfox8.com/2012/04/05/police-nc-man-burned-infant-with-iron/

From four years ago, a mother burns her 11 year old daughter on both her arms and on her thighs:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/5252946/

There are lots more stories like those above.

In my line of work, I have heard from therapists and other professionals about children being burned with curling irons, steamed irons and other items such as cigarettes and scalding hot water as forms of punishment which is really abuse.

As for the Penny storyline, I suppose to make the mother look real bad, they went with the iron as a tool of abuse. Also, I think by using a belt, some viewers would probably see nothing wrong with Penny's mother hitting her a belt since a lot of people associate using a belt on a child as an acceptable form of punishment as well as spanking. No one associates using an iron - except those who are child abusers - as an acceptable form of punishment.
A lot of parents used a belt back then. I knew a lot of kids who had it used on them. It wasn't really considered abuse at that time. I never had one used on me but I was threatened with it a few times. A belt wouldn't have gotten the point across that this was abuse.

Brieannas21
09-02-2013, 05:55 PM
Extreme and unrealistic

I don't think that it was unrealistic. Children have been abused and burned with irons, cigarettes, cigarette lighters, hot ovens and the flames from a stovetop. People have starved their children to death. So I think penny being burned with an iron was realistic. When I was little my uncle left me unattendent with a hot iron left on and I accidentally burned my with the iron and till this day I still have the iron burn mark on my leg. I Literally have the shape of the top part of the iron on my thigh LOL.

TVFactFan
09-02-2013, 06:03 PM
I don't think that it was unrealistic. Children have been abused and burned with irons, cigarettes, cigarette lighters, hot ovens and the flames from a stovetop. People have starved their children to death. So I think penny being burned with an iron was realistic. When I was little my uncle left me unattendent with a hot iron left on and I accidentally burned my with the iron and till this day I still have the iron burn mark on my leg. I Literally have the shape of the top part of the iron on my thigh LOL.


Oh my, I can only imagine how long you cried lol

janet42
09-02-2013, 07:45 PM
Unrealistic? Burns to children by iron have happened and continue to happen.

This case from last year. A man burned an infant with an iron:
http://myfox8.com/2012/04/05/police-nc-man-burned-infant-with-iron/

From four years ago, a mother burns her 11 year old daughter on both her arms and on her thighs:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/5252946/

There are lots more stories like those above.

In my line of work, I have heard from therapists and other professionals about children being burned with curling irons, steamed irons and other items such as cigarettes and scalding hot water as forms of punishment which is really abuse.

As for the Penny storyline, I suppose to make the mother look real bad, they went with the iron as a tool of abuse. Also, I think by using a belt, some viewers would probably see nothing wrong with Penny's mother hitting her a belt since a lot of people associate using a belt on a child as an acceptable form of punishment as well as spanking. No one associates using an iron - except those who are child abusers - as an acceptable form of punishment.

Those parents were horrible. I think it's great that you try to protect the kids that can't protect themselves from the ones who supposed to love and protect them not hurt them.

Wawwie
09-02-2013, 07:54 PM
Those parents were horrible. I think it's great that you try to protect the kids that can't protect themselves from the ones who supposed to love and protect them not hurt them.
Neither one of my parents ever hit me with a belt, but there were a few times that my mother dug her nails into my skin. That was bad. She had long nails back then.

yayaya
09-02-2013, 10:16 PM
A lot of parents used a belt back then. I knew a lot of kids who had it used on them. It wasn't really considered abuse at that time. I never had one used on me but I was threatened with it a few times. A belt wouldn't have gotten the point across that this was abuse.
Yes, I did comment on that in my post...here it is in bold:

I think by using a belt, some viewers would probably see nothing wrong with Penny's mother hitting her a belt since a lot of people associate using a belt on a child as an acceptable form of punishment as well as spanking. No one associates using an iron - except those who are child abusers - as an acceptable form of punishment.

I don't think that it was unrealistic. Children have been abused and burned with irons, cigarettes, cigarette lighters, hot ovens and the flames from a stovetop. People have starved their children to death. So I think penny being burned with an iron was realistic. When I was little my uncle left me unattendent with a hot iron left on and I accidentally burned my with the iron and till this day I still have the iron burn mark on my leg. I Literally have the shape of the top part of the iron on my thigh LOL.
My scar is still there too. It is not as visible as it was when I was younger, but it is there. And yes, it hurt like a muther!

ThomasE
09-19-2013, 03:35 AM
Yes, I did comment on that in my post...here it is in bold:




My scar is still there too. It is not as visible as it was when I was younger, but it is there. And yes, it hurt like a muther!


When I saw that situation with Penny when I was a child, it was traumatic for me. She was a kid like myself and that scared the living crap out of me. I took comfort in J.J. being nice to her. It was just a messed up situation.

TVFactFan
09-19-2013, 08:55 AM
When I saw that situation with Penny when I was a child, it was traumatic for me. She was a kid like myself and that scared the living crap out of me. I took comfort in J.J. being nice to her. It was just a messed up situation.

I have to watch the true hollywood story of good times again so I can see if they mentioned why they felt the need to add a child to the show

Tap Dancer
10-10-2013, 07:48 PM
so unrealistic because the pain would have so unbearable for a child to deal with after having a HOT A$$ Iron on her back lol

Sadly, it's not unrealistic. :( Children get abused that way (and sometimes worse) all the time. I remember reading about a man who put his baby daughter in the microwave. Cruel, heartless monsters have always been around.


Edit: Here's the story: Man accused of burning baby in microwave (http://digitaljournal.com/article/182525)