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isotope
08-19-2013, 12:20 AM
Is anyone aware of a case on UM where a police sketch has been instrumental in catching a perp?

Many of the sketches presented are VERY generic looking and cannot possibly be of any help to LE, while on a number of occasions (principally the Unabomber and the Original Night Stalker), I've found myself looking at sketches of masked/hooded/partially identified figures and asking why the police even bothered releasing them. :confused:

wiseguy182
08-19-2013, 02:37 AM
I don't know, but Jeannie Boylan is a very accomplished sketch artist who has been on the show a few times.

1990 UM fan
08-19-2013, 03:18 AM
Look up the name "Lois Gibson". She is a renowned forensic artist. She has drawn many sketches of suspects and unidentified victims to critical acclaim.

Jediknight1823
08-19-2013, 04:03 AM
Not a sketch and not on Unsolved Mysteries, but the bust of John List is what got him recognized and caught, after 18 years on the run. The bust looked exactly like List.

WishfulDreamer
08-19-2013, 05:31 AM
I believe the composite of John Burns also is what got him caught.

wiseguy182
08-19-2013, 05:34 AM
Not a sketch and not on Unsolved Mysteries, but the bust of John List is what got him recognized and caught, after 18 years on the run. The bust looked exactly like List.

Yes. John Walsh was so impressed by it he even had it in his office for quite awhile.

amandab1234
08-19-2013, 04:33 PM
I don’t remember but was Ann Sigmund ever found? Because those sketches were horrible and would not have helped! I don’t know why they actually showed them. They look like cartoons!

RobinW
08-19-2013, 05:59 PM
While he hasn't been charged for the crime yet, Jeanne Boylan's composite sketch for Rodney Stanger, the prime suspect in Molly Bish's murder, is pretty dead-on.

SheRaaa
08-19-2013, 06:40 PM
There's also the notable differences in the different police sketches of the Son of Sam that feuled the "more than one gunman" theories.

Mace Dolex
08-19-2013, 06:53 PM
I don't know how accurate they can be, the sketch for the UNA bomber was a joke that anybody with a pair of sunglasses could be mistaken for him.

And someone had mentioned the Night Stalker Richard Ramirez who by police sketches made him out to look caucasian like Gene Wilder.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/media/photo/2010-04/53546199.jpg

isotope
08-19-2013, 10:30 PM
I don't know how accurate they can be, the sketch for the UNA bomber was a joke that anybody with a pair of sunglasses could be mistaken for him.

And someone had mentioned the Night Stalker Richard Ramirez who by police sketches made him out to look caucasian like Gene Wilder.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/media/photo/2010-04/53546199.jpg


The Ramirez one is pretty bad, but I was referring to the ORIGINAL night stalker back in the 70s (who is simply, one of the worst, most terrifying criminals in US history - I cannot believe he isn't more notorious) - the sketch for him is literally a guy in a ski mask! It could be literally any caucasian male between about 16 and 60!

In fairness, I did find out that a police sketch was instrumental in bring Polly Klass's killer to justice

wiseguy182
08-20-2013, 12:45 AM
One additional thing to consider is that a lot of times, witnesses unfortunately remember things wrong. I can't imagine that helps any.

WishfulDreamer
08-20-2013, 01:24 AM
There are several sketches for the EAR/Original Night Stalker. Some of them do show his actual face (with his mouth wide open, scarily enough). I agree that just showing a guy with a hood is not going to help. That's how I feel about the sketches from the Garnier segment with the women shown from the back. That could be anyone!

nohwheregirl
08-22-2013, 12:14 AM
And someone had mentioned the Night Stalker Richard Ramirez who by police sketches made him out to look caucasian like Gene Wilder.

I actually don't think the sketch is that far off, but this made me lol. :lol:

Someone posted a whole bunch of EAR/ONS composites on this board, and I remember thinking that there weren't even 2 of them that looked like the same person.

IIRC, a combination of the composite sketch and a publicized handwritten note got Oba Chandler nailed.

kolson82
02-15-2014, 12:17 AM
I don’t remember but was Ann Sigmund ever found? Because those sketches were horrible and would not have helped! I don’t know why they actually showed them. They look like cartoons!

It's been a long time since I've commented on here, but I just watched the Sigmin segment today, and oh man, I forgot about those sketches. I was searching around the forum for any resolutions in regard to this case, and my search led me to this thread. Here's the sketches for reference.

http://imageshack.com/a/img203/5228/5cfy.png

http://imageshack.com/a/img844/8612/gdvt.png


I honestly don't know how ANYONE could see these and think they would be able to identify the person they're supposed to resemble.

Corkys-Place
02-15-2014, 02:36 AM
Slightly off topic, but some of the composites for crimes committed in Australia range from the scary to the downright ridiculous. Take the below for example. What is he? Wanted in Gotham City or something!

https://vic.crimestoppers.com.au/sites/crimestoppers.com.au/files/6437%20-%20img%201(1).jpg

TracyLynnS
02-15-2014, 11:05 AM
A couple weeks ago, this ridiculous sketch

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/31/article-0-1B1720CF00000578-306_306x423.jpg


helped catch this armed robber in Texas

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/31/article-0-1B1720CB00000578-461_306x423.jpg

MegtheEgg86
02-15-2014, 03:33 PM
So I decided to check this thread out on my phone last night, in the dark. That was a mistake.

Tracy, that last composite is by far the funniest sketch I have ever seen.

Steve W.
02-15-2014, 03:43 PM
A couple weeks ago, this ridiculous sketch

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/31/article-0-1B1720CF00000578-306_306x423.jpg


helped catch this armed robber in Texas

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/31/article-0-1B1720CB00000578-461_306x423.jpg


It's not quite as refined as a Lois Gibson sketch, but it does resemble a human being.

I believe you, but HOW did that help? Sans hat, it looks like the sketch of the leprechaun that was spotted in Alabama a few years back.

MegtheEgg86
02-15-2014, 03:56 PM
I believe you, but HOW did that help? Sans hat, it looks like the sketch of the leprechaun that was spotted in Alabama a few years back.

"Could be a crackhead!" :lol:

TracyLynnS
02-15-2014, 03:57 PM
I guess they caught that guy because a cop recognized some similarities between the sketch and a known criminal. lol Yeah.... sure. :crazy:

The article is here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2549158/Hilarious-childlike-police-sketch-thug-robbed-two-women-knifepoint-WORKED-is.html

It describes the amateurish looking sketch: Lamar County Sheriff's Department
released the poorly drawn composite sketch
featuring a round-faced, lipless hominid bearing
more than a passing resemblance to the plasticine character Morph.




Here's a couple more from this article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2543137/Is-worst-police-sketch-Police-release-likeness-armed-robbery-suspect-looks-like-CARTOON-person.html

This sketch led to capturing a perp:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/21/article-2543137-1AD8213900000578-953_634x421.jpg



But unfortunately, this suspect in the Madeline McCann case has not been found:


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/21/article-2543137-1AD8214900000578-824_634x702.jpg

Steve W.
02-16-2014, 10:18 AM
I guess if someone is intuitive enough to figure out who these perps are, the drawings are worth it, even if it looks like it was drawn in 10 seconds by a first grader.


Yep, you got it, Meg. They should have added this case to the Farina version. It holds its own with the fertility statues and the lady that sweats gold: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xy19lf_leprechaun-in-mobile-alabama_news

SageSlowdive
02-16-2014, 01:38 PM
It's been a long time since I've commented on here, but I just watched the Sigmin segment today, and oh man, I forgot about those sketches. I was searching around the forum for any resolutions in regard to this case, and my search led me to this thread. Here's the sketches for reference.

http://imageshack.com/a/img203/5228/5cfy.png

http://imageshack.com/a/img844/8612/gdvt.png


I honestly don't know how ANYONE could see these and think they would be able to identify the person they're supposed to resemble.

Did these come from a local high school art class?

TracyLynnS
02-16-2014, 02:41 PM
On the subject of UM, here are some sketches provided in some of the cases:

Jacqueline Castaneda's possible abductor:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110911180048/unsolvedmysteries/images/3/38/Vasquez_jacsuspect2.jpg



Suspicious man in the Nancy Drake attack:

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111029181360/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/b/b7/Nancy_drake_suspect.jpg/180px-Nancy_drake_suspect.jpg


Bike Path Rapist and the perp, Altemio Sanchez:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110921225403/unsolvedmysteries/images/5/5e/New_york_serial_rapist1_sketch.jpghttp://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110921225540/unsolvedmysteries/images/6/6d/New_york_serial_rapist4_altemio_sanchez.jpg


Anita Green's killer:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110910231954/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/1/1f/Anita_hitman.jpg/200px-Anita_hitman.jpg


The Falcon Lake UFO looked like this:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110918165858/unsolvedmysteries/images/d/dc/Falcon_lake_ufo1_sketch.jpg


Unibomber sketch and actual Unibomber, Ted Kaczynski:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110913204915/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/3/3c/Unibomber_1.jpg/180px-Unibomber_1.jpghttp://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110913204947/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/9/9e/50408_Unabomber1.jpg/180px-50408_Unabomber1.jpg


Tina Jefferson's friend Tony, along side a sketch of the man she was last seen with, the suspect in her murder. And..... the guy who actually did it. Not Tony. (alfredo prieto)

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120426215936/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/f/fe/Jeffersonraversuspects.jpg/270px-Jeffersonraversuspects.jpghttp://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111023134655/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/e/eb/Alfredo_prieto.jpg/130px-Alfredo_prieto.jpg


Suspects in the disappearance of Wendi Long, and the guy who gave the fake descriptions of those people and who actually killed Wendi, her friend "Tommy" Robert Stewart:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120521010616/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/e/e4/Wendilongsuspects.jpg/240px-Wendilongsuspects.jpghttp://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111016035323/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/3/3f/Robertstewart.jpg/195px-Robertstewart.jpg


Alien who abducted Robert Matthews from the Missing Time segment:

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110918184408/unsolvedmysteries/images/0/0e/Missing_time_alien.jpg



Sketch of the Mothman:

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111110014805/unsolvedmysteries/images/1/1c/Mothman.jpg


Actual Mothman:

http://michigannature.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/sandhill-crane.jpg

TracyLynnS
02-16-2014, 03:21 PM
Suspect "Sam" in Beverly McGowan's murder:

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111026015721/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/0/0a/Beverly_mcgowan_sam.jpg/180px-Beverly_mcgowan_sam.jpg


Suspect in Bill Henderson's murder and the man who killed him, Lawrence Tutt:

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111023223619/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/1/1d/Bill_henderson_killer.jpg/140px-Bill_henderson_killer.jpghttp://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111023223710/unsolvedmysteries/images/1/17/Lawrence_tutt.jpg


The Blind River Killer composite and a suspect, Ronald Glenn West:

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110911003527/unsolvedmysteries/images/f/f0/Gordon_jackie_mcallister3_suspect.jpghttp://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110911003922/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/4/49/Ronald_west.jpg/250px-Ronald_west.jpg


Connecticut River Killer:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110927011439/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/0/0e/Connecticut_river_valley_killer.jpg/300px-Connecticut_river_valley_killer.jpg


The Seattle Arson Killer, connected to over 20 arsons in the area and named "King of the Arsonists" by police because of his expert use of thermite based high temperature accelerants:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111006234003/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/7/7a/Seattle_arsonist.jpg/300px-Seattle_arsonist.jpg


The actual "arsonist":

http://free-photos.co/cache/utility-and-construction/simple-telephone_pole-with-electric-wires_w490_h327.jpg

TracyLynnS
02-16-2014, 03:41 PM
Megadeth Guy from the Deborah Poe case:

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110911192514/unsolvedmysteries/images/b/bb/Poe_sketch.jpg


Suspect in the Diana Shawcroft/Jennifer Lueth murders:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110911003337/unsolvedmysteries/images/7/72/Dianajennifer_comp_000.jpg


Suspect in Dick Hansen's murder:

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110910232814/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/b/be/Dickhansen_killer.jpg/171px-Dickhansen_killer.jpg


Eileen Mangold's killer:

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121202025633/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/c/c9/Mangold_suspect.jpg/170px-Mangold_suspect.jpg


Rochester Car Heist suspects and one guy who probably got away with it because the statue of limitations ran out:

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111006232560/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/1/17/Rochester_car_heist_suspects.jpg/300px-Rochester_car_heist_suspects.jpghttp://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110920212008/unsolvedmysteries/images/b/b1/Armored_car_heist4_albert_ranieri.jpg

TracyLynnS
02-16-2014, 05:28 PM
Michael Johnston and Rochelle Robinson case:

The man who stalked Rochelle:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110911000305/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/c/c8/Suspect_1.jpg/180px-Suspect_1.jpg


A psychic thinks this is the killer:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110911000456/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/a/a2/Suspect_2.jpg/180px-Suspect_2.jpg

The killers accomplices:

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110911000541/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/4/42/Suspect_3.jpg/180px-Suspect_3.jpg


The Milk Carton Bandit bank robber:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111001182761/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/0/09/Milk_carton_bandit.jpg/300px-Milk_carton_bandit.jpg


This is the Son of Sam. Also, this guy, this guy, and this guy. And David Berkowitz, convicted of being the Son of Sam:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110918125634/unsolvedmysteries/images/8/82/Son_sam3_accomplices.jpghttp://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110918125503/unsolvedmysteries/images/a/a2/Son_sam1_berkowitz.jpg


The Boston Mall Rapist:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110925195754/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/0/0a/Boston_rapist.jpg/300px-Boston_rapist.jpg


The Televangelist Bomber, and the guy who I suspect, Eric Rudolph:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110914224930/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/5/51/Pat_robertson_bomb_attempt2_suspect.jpg/180px-Pat_robertson_bomb_attempt2_suspect.jpghttp://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110922002811/unsolvedmysteries/images/7/70/Eric_rudolph1.jpg


Wadada!!!!!! And his hand:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111008023034/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/1/1c/Wadada.jpg/275px-Wadada.jpghttp://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140115162536/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/8/81/WadadaHand.png/200px-WadadaHand.png


Suspects in Stanley Gryzeic's murder:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110910232346/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/8/87/Stanley_gryziec2_killers.jpg/180px-Stanley_gryziec2_killers.jpg

TracyLynnS
02-16-2014, 05:39 PM
Suspect in the Taxi Driver Human Time Bomb case:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110913205813/unsolvedmysteries/images/c/cf/Human_time_bomb1_suspect.jpg


Suspect in Cindy Song's disappearance:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110912003228/unsolvedmysteries/images/4/4d/Cindy_song3_suspect.jpg


Suspects in Megan Curl's murder:

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110910213736/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/1/15/Megan%27s_killer.jpg/210px-Megan%27s_killer.jpghttp://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110910213830/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/a/a4/Witness_megan.jpg/228px-Witness_megan.jpg


The man who attacked Dorothy Wacker:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111107211233/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/a/a7/Wacker_attacker.jpg/220px-Wacker_attacker.jpg


Suspect in Biggie Small's murder:

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140207153147/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/6/62/Composite-sketch-of-bigs-killer.jpg/150px-Composite-sketch-of-bigs-killer.jpg


Suspect in the John Grundhofer kidnapping:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111201020750/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/1/15/Grundhofer_kidnapper.jpg/110px-Grundhofer_kidnapper.jpg

kolson82
02-16-2014, 05:58 PM
This thread is too funny! So many of these sketches look like they were drawn by, as SageSlowdive suggested, a high school art class.

The Tina Jefferson one always baffled me, and it is one of the main catalysts for me being wary of eye witness accounts, especially in regards to those accounts producing sketches of the potential kidnappers/killers.

I will say, though, that some of the sketches really creeped me out when I was younger. I'd turn off all the lights in my house and watch the episodes, and when one of those sketches came on (or a creepy mugshot), I'd get up and go to the kitchen to get something to drink, hehe.

kolson82
02-16-2014, 06:01 PM
Wadada!!!!!! And his hand:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111008023034/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/1/1c/Wadada.jpg/275px-Wadada.jpghttp://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140115162536/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/8/81/WadadaHand.png/200px-WadadaHand.png



NOOOOO!!! I hated that segment when I was young...that hand!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

golden um
02-16-2014, 06:48 PM
Suspects in Stanley Gryzeic's murder:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110910232346/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/8/87/Stanley_gryziec2_killers.jpg/180px-Stanley_gryziec2_killers.jpg

Those 2 sketches have always frightened me, but I do not know why but I have always found the picture of Chuck Brzezinski (sp?), the former employee of the bar, who is wanted as a material witness in Stanley Gryzeic's case, and who authorities believe may be living in the Phoenix Arizona area, at least as disturbing as those 2 sketches.

MegtheEgg86
02-16-2014, 07:01 PM
Suspects in Stanley Gryzeic's murder:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110910232346/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/8/87/Stanley_gryziec2_killers.jpg/180px-Stanley_gryziec2_killers.jpg

Those 2 sketches have always frightened me, but I do not know why but I have always found the picture of Chuck Brzezinski (sp?), the former employee of the bar, who is wanted as a material witness in Stanley Gryzeic's case, and who authorities believe may be living in the Phoenix Arizona area, at least as disturbing as those 2 sketches.

Me too. All three of those freak me out.

Actually, so does your avatar! Is that Kenneth Frank?

SageSlowdive
02-16-2014, 08:57 PM
[/quote]

Sketch of the Mothman:

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111110014805/unsolvedmysteries/images/1/1c/Mothman.jpg


Actual Mothman:

http://michigannature.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/sandhill-crane.jpg[/QUOTE]

:rofl:

golden um
02-16-2014, 10:11 PM
Me too. All three of those freak me out.

Actually, so does your avatar! Is that Kenneth Frank?

Nope, he is not Kenneth Frank. The guy depicted in my avatar is Raymond Merrill Scoville, who is wanted for the murder of his lover and business partner Colleen Rachich. Scoville is also a suspect in the murder of two of his former girlfriends, He is known to preferred the company of "redheads". The mugshot of Scoville that I have as my avatar was not featured during the segment. The case was featured as an FBI Alert which also featured the cases of Michael Louis Cline, Michael John Lassen and Thomas Robert Geers.

MegtheEgg86
02-16-2014, 10:41 PM
Nope, he is not Kenneth Frank. The guy depicted in my avatar is Raymond Merrill Scoville, who is wanted for the murder of his lover and business partner Colleen Rachich. Scoville is also a suspect in the murder of two of his former girlfriends, He is known to preferred the company of "redheads". The mugshot of Scoville that I have as my avatar was not featured during the segment. The case was featured as an FBI Alert which also featured the cases of Michael Louis Cline, Michael John Lassen and Thomas Robert Geers.

Yeah, I remember that one. I also remember noticing his poor business partner also just so happened to be a "redhead". I'm sure that was entirely just a coincidence.

MegtheEgg86
02-16-2014, 10:52 PM
What about those four sketches of what Charles Mule could look like shown at the end of his segment? Those were atrocious.

isotope
02-17-2014, 12:07 AM
[Suspect in Dick Hansen's murder:

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110910232814/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/b/be/Dickhansen_killer.jpg/171px-Dickhansen_killer.jpg




Steve Urkel is a suspected killer ?!?!?!?!?!:p

WishfulDreamer
02-17-2014, 12:17 AM
What about those four sketches of what Charles Mule could look like shown at the end of his segment? Those were atrocious.
Those were hilarious! :rotflmao: ''He may look like any one of these composite drawings.'' I will try to find that segment and screencap them.

kolson82
02-17-2014, 12:54 AM
What about those four sketches of what Charles Mule could look like shown at the end of his segment? Those were atrocious.

Hahaha. Yes. Here they are:

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/289x217q90/856/1aet.png

kolson82
02-17-2014, 01:05 AM
Steve Urkel is a suspected killer ?!?!?!?!?!:p

Haha. That's EXACTLY what I say every time I see that sketch!! Too funny!:lol: :lol: :lol:

Brock Landers
02-17-2014, 02:54 AM
The New Mexico bowling alley murders. I always thought the guy on the right was a dead ringer for Eddie Murphy.

TheCars1986
02-17-2014, 11:23 AM
The composite of the Wackers's attacker has always creeped me out. Even though he looks completely ordinary, there's something unsettling about it.

SageSlowdive
02-17-2014, 08:38 PM
The composite of the Wackers's attacker has always creeped me out. Even though he looks completely ordinary, there's something unsettling about it.

I think it's because the way you described it: he looks totally ordinary, but there is something disturbing about the way he is drawn.

isotope
02-17-2014, 09:12 PM
The composite of the Wackers's attacker has always creeped me out. Even though he looks completely ordinary, there's something unsettling about it.


Probably because this guy doesn't actually exist, and Mrs Wacker made him up. ;)

SageSlowdive
02-18-2014, 12:12 AM
Probably because this guy doesn't actually exist, and Mrs Wacker made him up. ;)

Nope.

isotope
02-18-2014, 02:41 AM
Nope.


Yep.

DALLASTEXAN!!
02-18-2014, 03:29 AM
They helped scare me when it was bedtime in my youth.

MegtheEgg86
02-18-2014, 03:38 AM
They helped scare me when it was bedtime in my youth.

They still help scare me when it's bedtime every once in a while. :(

MegtheEgg86
02-18-2014, 03:47 AM
Yep, you got it, Meg. They should have added this case to the Farina version. It holds its own with the fertility statues and the lady that sweats gold: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xy19lf_leprechaun-in-mobile-alabama_news

Classic. I also remember the spin-off rap remix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZfyrIPw3wY

Corkys-Place
05-24-2014, 10:39 PM
Michael Johnston and Rochelle Robinson case:

The man who stalked Rochelle:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110911000305/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/c/c8/Suspect_1.jpg/180px-Suspect_1.jpg


A psychic thinks this is the killer:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110911000456/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/a/a2/Suspect_2.jpg/180px-Suspect_2.jpg

The killers accomplices:

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110911000541/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/4/42/Suspect_3.jpg/180px-Suspect_3.jpg


The Milk Carton Bandit bank robber:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111001182761/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/0/09/Milk_carton_bandit.jpg/300px-Milk_carton_bandit.jpg


This is the Son of Sam. Also, this guy, this guy, and this guy. And David Berkowitz, convicted of being the Son of Sam:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110918125634/unsolvedmysteries/images/8/82/Son_sam3_accomplices.jpghttp://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110918125503/unsolvedmysteries/images/a/a2/Son_sam1_berkowitz.jpg


The Boston Mall Rapist:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110925195754/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/0/0a/Boston_rapist.jpg/300px-Boston_rapist.jpg


The Televangelist Bomber, and the guy who I suspect, Eric Rudolph:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110914224930/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/5/51/Pat_robertson_bomb_attempt2_suspect.jpg/180px-Pat_robertson_bomb_attempt2_suspect.jpghttp://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110922002811/unsolvedmysteries/images/7/70/Eric_rudolph1.jpg


Wadada!!!!!! And his hand:

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111008023034/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/1/1c/Wadada.jpg/275px-Wadada.jpghttp://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140115162536/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/8/81/WadadaHand.png/200px-WadadaHand.png


Suspects in Stanley Gryzeic's murder:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110910232346/unsolvedmysteries/images/thumb/8/87/Stanley_gryziec2_killers.jpg/180px-Stanley_gryziec2_killers.jpg


Those first 3 "composites" are just ridiculous! They look like a High School student's art project or something!

PKB
05-25-2014, 08:19 AM
Wow, I'm sending some of this weapons grade nightmare fuel to my wife.
The composites are exactly why she refuses to watch UM with me.

Some of the doenetwork is really terror inducing:

http://doenetwork.org/cases/images/3UFMT.jpg

http://doenetwork.org/cases/images/666UFTX.jpg

http://doenetwork.org/cases/images/729UMCA.jpg

http://doenetwork.org/cases/images/716UMAK.jpg

I guess you have to work with what your given and in the case of unidentified bodies that may not be very much to go on.

Janel "Jaycee" Miller
05-25-2014, 09:30 AM
I guess composites can help weed out people. Like if all the witnesses help put together a composite that shows a red-head that did the crime, and then some blond comes forward and confesses and hasn't recently dyed his hair, you know the blond is lying.

I type that and am fully aware that some witnesses that for one reason or another are not reliable. Completely understandable too.

I'm very glad I read this thread at 930 in the morning and not right before going to bed - count me among those that would be freaked out by some of the composites. The composite of the man who was going into strip malls along Interstate 70 always freaked me out. Him and the Unabomber. I remember when the latter was caught, some network did a dissolve of the composite into the mugshot. Creepy but effective, if I am remembering it after all these years.

Corkys-Place
05-26-2014, 05:01 AM
Wow, I'm sending some of this weapons grade nightmare fuel to my wife.
The composites are exactly why she refuses to watch UM with me.

Some of the doenetwork is really terror inducing:

http://doenetwork.org/cases/images/3UFMT.jpg

http://doenetwork.org/cases/images/666UFTX.jpg

http://doenetwork.org/cases/images/729UMCA.jpg

http://doenetwork.org/cases/images/716UMAK.jpg

I guess you have to work with what your given and in the case of unidentified bodies that may not be very much to go on.

The unidentified victims section of the Doe Network is a massive source of creepy photos, not to mention the fact that these poor souls have never been missed by anyone that we're aware of. :(

88keys
05-26-2014, 04:20 PM
I'm very glad I read this thread at 930 in the morning and not right before going to bed - count me among those that would be freaked out by some of the composites.


I did start reading it at bedtime and had to stop. Composites have always terrified me, too. So do those sculptures they make from skulls, like the ones PKB posted.



Some of the doenetwork is really terror inducing:

I guess you have to work with what your given and in the case of unidentified bodies that may not be very much to go on.

This one from the Illinois State Police unsolved crimes page nearly made me wet myself when I first saw it. It's a sculpture of an unidentified female head that was found in the woods in Jefferson County.

http://www.isp.state.il.us/crime/unsolveddetails.cfm?ID=24

I guess she had some kind of neck condition, which explains the weird head tilt and...distortion? I don't know what to call it, but it's freaky.

MegtheEgg86
05-26-2014, 06:28 PM
This one from the Illinois State Police unsolved crimes page nearly made me wet myself when I first saw it. It's a sculpture of an unidentified female head that was found in the woods in Jefferson County.

http://www.isp.state.il.us/crime/unsolveddetails.cfm?ID=24

I guess she had some kind of neck condition, which explains the weird head tilt and...distortion? I don't know what to call it, but it's freaky.

I've seen that one before and had a similar reaction. The sculpture looks like it's in the midst of some terrible throe. I've never seen anyone suffering from this condition, but man, does it look painful.

PKB
05-26-2014, 10:23 PM
I did start reading it at bedtime and had to stop. Composites have always terrified me, too. So do those sculptures they make from skulls, like the ones PKB posted.



This one from the Illinois State Police unsolved crimes page nearly made me wet myself when I first saw it. It's a sculpture of an unidentified female head that was found in the woods in Jefferson County.

http://www.isp.state.il.us/crime/unsolveddetails.cfm?ID=24

I guess she had some kind of neck condition, which explains the weird head tilt and...distortion? I don't know what to call it, but it's freaky.

I think that I have an aunt with a similar condition. I understand that often you don't have much to base a face on but wow... Some look intentionally creepy. I have a hard time seeing how someone could recognize some of those as a loved one.





The unidentified victims section of the Doe Network is a massive source of creepy photos, not to mention the fact that these poor souls have never been missed by anyone that we're aware of. :(

That's the part that really gets to me. I may have an unhealthy fascination with the doenetwork and I couldn't imagine looking for a loved one there.

I was an Army medic and during 2007 sectarian violence was hot in Iraq. We would find or respond to reports of bodies in varying degrees of dismemberment and obvious signs of torture. We took pictures as best we could of the faces and took fingerprints when we could. These images were taken to a morgue in Baghdad. That was a nasty place. Widows and mothers lined up wrapping around the building sometimes to look at photo of photo of contorted, bloody, shot, beheaded faces hoping to find a loved one that had gone missing.

88keys
05-29-2014, 11:17 AM
I think that I have an aunt with a similar condition. I understand that often you don't have much to base a face on but wow... Some look intentionally creepy. I have a hard time seeing how someone could recognize some of those as a loved one.

Yeah. I get that the wryneck is going to give her a weird head tilt, but they could have done a better job with the eyes and mouth and skin. It's not even a natural color. :confused:

TracyLynnS
09-08-2014, 06:22 PM
I can't find the picture of the perp, but this caricaturist drew a picture of the guy who robbed him and they caught him based on the accuracy of the sketch.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/01/17/18WEG_wideweb__470x281,0.jpg



This sketch helped apprehend this baby snatcher.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/photogallery/police-sketches/tammy-renee-silas.jpg




Bangkok Bank Robber. I don't think this sketch led to the apprehension of any suspects.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/photogallery/police-sketches/bangkok-helmet.jpg



The shooting suspect in this sketch was described as being in his late teens to early twenties, overweight, with curly red hair. The actual perp turned out to be a 28 year old black/latino man of healthy weight and not a redhead.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/photogallery/police-sketches/rock-creek.jpg

TracyLynnS
09-08-2014, 07:01 PM
This guy robbed a Hobby Lobby craft store. He's not yet been apprehended.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/photogallery/police-sketches/hobby-lobby.jpg



This creeper was charged with lewd and lascivious molestation for some ill advised buttock squeezing.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/photogallery/police-sketches/jacob-carrell.jpg



Based on this sketch, I'd have to guess that Steve Buschemi has taken up smoking meth and robbing banks.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/photogallery/police-sketches/indiana-bank-robber.jpg



Bank robber sketch.......................... Bank robber caught.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-05/enhanced/webdr08/8/5/grid-cell-26933-1399541950-2.jpghttp://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-05/enhanced/webdr08/8/5/grid-cell-26933-1399541951-5.jpg



Probably the first time a Wii character has ever been used as a composite in an attempt to catch a hit and run driver.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-05/enhanced/webdr06/7/12/enhanced-buzz-27779-1399480958-17.jpg

TracyLynnS
09-08-2014, 07:13 PM
And this is kind of the opposite.

In an amusing and interesting article by a sketch artist who was somewhat annoyed by people being overly critical of bad sketches, she drew this to make a point, because no one could possibly look like this:

http://askaforensicartist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Example-214x300.jpg


But unfortunately for this guy, yeah....

http://askaforensicartist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Mugshot__Chris-Kemp-240x300.jpg



http://www.askaforensicartist.com/nobody-looks-like-that/

PKB
09-08-2014, 07:52 PM
Beavis! Beavis! I found your father!!

PKB
09-08-2014, 07:55 PM
This guy robbed a Hobby Lobby craft store. He's not yet been apprehended.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/photogallery/police-sketches/hobby-lobby.jpg

Billy Corgan has been having a tough time getting back to his glory days since Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness...

Corkys-Place
09-10-2014, 05:59 AM
I can't find the picture of the perp, but this caricaturist drew a picture of the guy who robbed him and they caught him based on the accuracy of the sketch.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/01/17/18WEG_wideweb__470x281,0.jpg



Ahhhh good old "WEG" (real name William Ellis Green). Sadly passed away in 2008. His post Grand Final drawing / poster of the winning Aussie Rules Football team every year were a bit of an icon for decades.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6757/kgrhqiokpce6dlceeybosj7.jpg

http://www.blueseum.org/show_image.php?id=35496&thumb=1

There's a new Cartoonist doing the winning Grand Final team posters now, but it's kinda not the same. :(

DALLASTEXAN!!
09-15-2014, 03:20 PM
Yes

Mace Dolex
09-23-2014, 01:09 AM
Billy Corgan has been having a tough time getting back to his glory days since Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness...
I was gonna say Corey Feldman as he looked at the end of Friday The 13th pt.IV.