View Full Version : DISNEY CHANNEL, NICKELODEON CORRUPT CHILDREN


TMC
08-16-2013, 03:26 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/08/06/Disney-Channel-Nickelodeon-Corrupt-the-Tweeners

Now that Lindsay Lohan’s new low-budget ($200,000) piece of erotica (http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/10/10/lindsay_lohan_s_canyons_trailer_she_s_typecast_as_a_dumb_slut_again.html), The Canyons, has been released (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/08/02/canyon-review-loder), and Miley Cyrus has posed (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/05/miley-cyrus-underwear-notion_n_3706686.html) for Notion Magazine in her underwear, it might be useful to look at how the Disney Channel and fellow corrupter of youth Nickelodeon are leading tweeners toward behavior that can only be referred to as noxious.

The LA Weekly had a comprehensive piece (http://www.laweekly.com/2013-06-20/film-tv/disney-tv-poison-daughters/full) on June 20 delineating the kind of behavior exhibited on Disney Channel shows such as Shake It Up, Jesse, Wizards of Waverly Place and Austin & Ally, and Teen Nick's Victorious and How to Rock. Writer Nick Schager said the shows:

promote an adult-free universe in which wise-cracking tartlets mug for the camera in too-revealing mall-wear while prevailing over social obstacles through a combination of you-go-girl obnoxiousness and slapstick idiocy . . . Far more distressing are the unpleasant lessons they teach about humility, civility, individuality and what it really means to be an adolescent girl . . . In each of these programs, everyone is endlessly ridiculing everyone else in order to showcase their own playful impudence, thereby equating coolness with smart-assery.

Schager also took the networks to task for the absence of parental models on the shows:

. . . grown-ups are either altogether missing in these shows or, in the case of Wizards of Waverly Place and Good Luck Charlie (and the superior, now-canceled, (Carly) , infantile sidekicks with no legitimate influence on their mischievous charges. When adults are around, they're depicted as buffoons, and their threats of punishment are toothless, mere narrative devices designed to provide drama while also underscoring the kids' awesome and lionized do-what-I-wanna-do behavior . . . the general absence of mother and father figures -- the kids live more or less on their own, in lavish houses or apartments, without having jobs or any notable sources of income -- conveys the idea that, with a lot of self-satisfied smirking and pratfalling ingenuity, teens can accomplish everything and anything they want, by themselves, because they always know best.

As for sexual provocation? Schager wrote that shows such as Victorious, A.N.T. Farm and Shake It Up show young girls “uniformly cast from the same Bratz-doll mold. They're singing and dancing robots designed to exude youthful, tacky sexuality that's safe and "subtle" (first kisses are the extent of the stories' huffing and puffing) yet absolutely omnipresent. Following the lead of contemporary tween-oriented pop music -- a link made depressingly plain, and unholy, by an episode of Victorious featuring Ke$ha -- the shows' eroticized elements are intrinsically linked with coolness.”

Disney Channel and Nickelodeon: paving the way for the corruption of the innocent.

Tubehead
08-16-2013, 10:14 AM
no offesn if I had kids I wouldn't let them watch spoun bob I think its gross cartoon I just don't under stand why its so popular pluse the voice of spun bob annoys me and the theme song annoys me too

Patty Duke
08-17-2013, 04:18 PM
My brother doesn't allow his children to watch all that crap. I don't have any children because for me personally I feel morals etc. have declined so much, I don't want to bring children into this world.

zypherix
08-17-2013, 06:57 PM
Kids will watch what they want to watch. Stop being such babies.. they'll learn about the world eventually anyway.

Patty Duke
08-19-2013, 12:35 PM
Kids will watch what they want to watch.

Not if the parents take an active role in their upbringing and care. :mad:
That is the major problem today, some parents allow kids to do as they please and these kids are out of control!

MrCleveland
08-19-2013, 02:24 PM
I just wish Disney Channel and Nickelodeon goes back to their roots.

Well...Nickelodeon is STILL the 1st Kids Network, but it had more variety back in the 90's, and The Disney Channel was...well...NOT The "Disney" Channel.

retrofan05
08-19-2013, 03:05 PM
I think Girl Meets World has the potential to really turn Disney around. Boy Meets World was the perfect family show. It had good morals, wit, and life lessons that everyone could relate to. If Girl Meets World sticks to the same formula, it could act as a banner show for a major turnaround in the network.

MacLeaper
08-19-2013, 04:59 PM
I think there may be some over exaggeration and generalizations in some of these articles, but I do agree on a lot of these points. There have been some moments watching the attitudes of some of these kids on these various Disney and Nick shows (most all of which I've seen at least one episode) and at times, I get incensed and want to give some kids some spankings. If I ever said some of the things I've heard on these shows to my parents as a kid, I'd be getting a spanking big time.
Maybe not all the time, but there are so many times when kids on these shows are rude, disrespectful, lying and disobedient- amongst other things. And the parents are generally (not always) portrayed as either buffoons or in some cases, just as bad as their kids. No wonder the kids do such wrong- they see it in their parents! And their parents even encourage them in it at times.
I'm not saying all Disney and Nickelodeon shows are bad- but certainly, parents need to be careful and watch them with their kids- and determine which ones to let their minds dwell on (as Philippians 4:8 guidelines). Of course, the sadder thing is- these are probably some of the best shows on TV because there are certainly much worse things to watch......

Patty Duke
08-22-2013, 10:39 PM
In my opinion Disney promotes bullying! My little niece has some serious food allergies, one of which is Celiac Disease. They aired a show where some kids at a dinner table were poking fun at one child because he couldn't eat wheat and even threw food at him. No excuse in that! No, I didn't watch that show but word travels with kids and my niece was teased at school after this. She was sent home after a boy poured milk over her head, (she can't have dairy or nuts either). No, it didn't make her sick, she has to drink it for it to effect her but her hair and clothes were wet and surprise, the boy who did this got a little talking to, nothing more. The other kids who egged it on walked away free and clear. He laughed about it in front of the Principal and HIS parents who did NOTHING! This is not the 1st time that boy has bullied other kids. Nothing is ever done. So many kids are out of control, many parents no longer parent and the shows on TV don't help matters. Bullying is something I think we need to stop tolerating or it will not stop. If the parents can't control the kids, then someone else needs to step in OR the parents need to be punished for what their out of control kids do till they understand their role! :soapbox:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Celiac+Disease&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs#channel=rcs&fp=81a944fec5c67d1e&q=disney+show+has+child+being+bullied+that+has+celiac+disease&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial

Wawwie
08-22-2013, 11:21 PM
no offesn if I had kids I wouldn't let them watch spoun bob I think its gross cartoon I just don't under stand why its so popular pluse the voice of spun bob annoys me and the theme song annoys me too
It's called Sponge Bob, not spun bob.

Patty Duke
08-23-2013, 04:32 PM
It's called Sponge Bob, not spun bob.


We should try to avoid insulting other people, they do have feelings and we never know the circumstances. :(

Zoneboy
08-23-2013, 04:56 PM
We should try to avoid insulting other people, they do have feelings and we never know the circumstances. :(

The poster might not be aware that correcting other people's grammar is not allowed.

Patty Duke
08-23-2013, 05:09 PM
Thank you. :)

DJM77
08-23-2013, 06:58 PM
A little OT, but it seems to me that some of the dialogue and humor is inappropropriate (especially since we're talking about kids shows) sometimes. For example, I realize that I'm in the minority with this, but I've always felt like saying stuff like "Oh God" or "Oh my God" (if you're not talking to or about God, but you say His name then you're using it in vain) is worse than saying curse words. I've noticed that despite being kids shows, the Dan Schneider produced shows like to use God's name in vain from time to time.

waichingliu81
08-23-2013, 08:34 PM
I just wish Disney Channel and Nickelodeon goes back to their roots.

Well...Nickelodeon is STILL the 1st Kids Network, but it had more variety back in the 90's, and The Disney Channel was...well...NOT The "Disney" Channel.

i'd say the same for cartoon network and to an extent, boomerang as well. though i enjoy boomerang more than CN, but not as much as i did during the 00s period.

TKMetal
08-23-2013, 08:51 PM
If you use TV as a babysitter, you get what you deserve.

TMC
09-13-2013, 01:26 AM
http://www.change.org/petitions/cartoon-network-nickelodeon-disney-channel-have-corrupt-executives-undo-their-work-permanently-resign

Meanwhile, a decline in Nickelodeon’s programming began towards the second half of the last decade. Cyma Zarghami is particularly noted for this; she became the president of children’s programming at Viacom in 2006, which is explained to have been the beginning of the network’s downfall. She obsesses over the happiness over females and appears to focus solely on that aspect of her career. She began a change known as the MTV effect; this involved changing the programming on Nickelodeon and its blocks, while dramatically altering the actual programming of MTV. Subsequently, this resulted in a few changes; firstly, it caused all of the Nickelodeon blocks to ultimately become individual channels (except for Nick@Nite); secondly, it changed the type of programming from individually unique, innovative cartoons, Nickcoms, and game shows, to cash cows, “****coms” that revolve around inaccurately portrayed teenage life, music, or the internet, and programming that will often be unloved and either cancelled or discarded to a sister network; thirdly, she wanted the complete abandonment of the splat logo, because "We wanted to clean it up and allow Nick to be the stamp on all of these channels," and "In asking ourselves if everything could live under the splat, we decided that the splat was dated," she said. "It just couldn't be done in a streamlined way." Except Cyma Zargahmi fails to understand the symbolism of the splat logo. Over the years of the splat logo’s use, there have been many variations of the same logo, varying in shape and incarnation among Nickelodeon, its sister networks, and its programming. The significance of the splat logo is that it did not have to always use the iconic splat. The unique design allowed it to become virtually anything, and it symbolized a wide diversity of programming able to uniquely diversity yet stay united under a common name. This is why the splat logo of Nickelodeon is so iconic and memorable. Yet under the MTV effect, which forced more musical-based media in Nickelodeon, the network slowly began to lose its variety of programming. Nickelodeon’s Cash Cows, such as Spongebob Squarepants, The Fairly Odd Parents, ICarly, Victorious, Degrassi, and Dora the Explorer all began to be focused on more, while other shows were either cancelled or reduced in reruns.

To diminish the demographic-oriented blocks and the sister networks, they merged the two; while The N and Noggin were relatable to TEENick and Nick Jr. respectively, they sister networks were not meant to fall under the same name due to their dramatically differing programming. Nicktoons Network also fell under this category, although it was mistakenly associated with Nickelodeon due to its splat logo and reruns of older Nick programming. Cyma Zargahmi began to move the blocks that were on Nickelodeon to the sister networks; although the programming remained on the main channel, the Nicktoons and TEENick blocks were discontinued so she could rebrand all four networks in fall 2009. She forced these networks under one common appearance to encourage conformity, as well as have the cash cows infect the other networks, in addition to the already-existing cash cows air more often.

Cyma doesn’t realize that if she had not altered the demographics for the main and sister networks, there would not be a need for rebranding Nickelodeon. In fact, ICarly, Victorious, and even Dora the Explorer became Cash Cows under her command, and due to her obsession of girl power. “I think for all kids, but for girls in particular, that the opportunities presented to them and the people around them are critically important to their success, particularly as tweens.” Not only does this give an intimation of being sexist, but she is also completely ignorant to positive influences. In fact, her cash cows actually destroyed opportunities in a sense, and made tweens think they had to be more like what they were seeing more often on TV.

“Girls today need to have a great opinion of themselves, no matter what, they need to have confidence in what they want to do, and they need to have confidence in what they don’t know yet.” Which is like saying Adolf Hitler should be proud for killing 8 million Jews, whether he knew or not, or even considered, who or how he might be hurting others. This blind confidence boosts the ignorance to “justify” the expansion of the cash cows, and would ultimately give other networks an alleged justification for creating cash cows themselves. “And they need to be able to ask a lot of questions, and they need people to be able to ask those questions of. Girls need great role models, girls need opportunities, and they need to be inspired along every step of the way to do great things.” On the contrary, Nickelodeon’s leading female role models, Miranda Cosgrove and Victoria Justice, play the roles of ignorant teenagers who only find happiness through fame or musical talent, and often make irrational decisions without any parental consent or guidance. In fact, Victoria Justice has been seen wearing more revealing clothing than most women in adult films. “I think the more that girls are encouraged to do anything and everything that boys are able to do is also a great thing.” In other words, she is attempting reverse sexism. It can be conjectured that her prejudice towards males in Nickelodeon programming may have something to do with her Iranian Heritage, more specifically the heavy Muslim influence in that area. Additionally, religion plays a minor role in networking, although more in Disney Channel than any of the three mainstream networks at the time. It is important to remember that Nickelodeon is iconic because it had a great representation of kids’ interests and desires, while giving important life lessons in their shows so kids could truly learn what is good for them and others. Modern Nickelodeon is deliberately dramatically different from the old network because Cyma wants to throw away true fan representation in favor of appeasing adults. Mainstream media is purposely forcing cash cows and conformity down everyone’s throats, and it is important to have morality behind television production.

Disney copied the MTV effect as well, with even more unrealistic aspects of life, particularly in High School, with Disney's hidden, twisted racism becoming more present; this started movies like High School Musical. From then on, all of their showed involve some sort of romance-oriented musical, and every primary Disney celebrity was required to be a singer (as well as every singer being an actor, as portrayed by the series, “Jonas”). In addition, Disney showed more of their racism by substituting Black people with Indians, and Jewish people with Asians. Newer programs have also proven to be constantly unoriginal and make religious references. In fact, the only reason Isabella Garcia-Sheppiro from Phineas and Ferb was chosen to be Jewish was so she could disprove her own faith in their Christmas Special (hence the reason she brings up her faith at that point in the show). Yet at the same time that Disney appears to be against Judaism, they are run by Jewish individuals that have aspersed the German population through stereotypes, likely as a result of the horrors of the Holocaust. Most notable examples include “the antagonist[s] in some of their kids shows…implied to be German or of Germanic decent…The EVIL Dr."Doofenshmirtz" is from "Drooslestien" and is the antagonist of Phineas And Ferb…in the show they show him with a racist backstory with much and overly dramatized German stereotypes, Lederhosen, thick Germanic accents (Which is actually mentioned by Mr. Fletcher in the series) as well as other things. In American Dragon Jake Long, Professor Rotwood, ALSO the show's antagonist is very shrill and is trying to expose Jake as a dragon. He also has a similar backstory which it goes into with stereotypes in one episode which I believe the name of the episode is "Dreamscape", as well as the fact he uses Germanic phrases (He also speaks with a thick accent) such as "Schnell!" or "Nein!” In addition, the original Suite Life of Zack and Cody; the antagonist of the Hotel Tipton is a German woman (who also has a thick accent and ludicrously loud obnoxious tone)” (Towerpreracademy).

While a handful of decent cartoons were created during this time, they all suffered the same fate of cancellation (some of which were prematurely cancelled) due to the rising cash cows. In fact, many of the newer animated programs, both of high and low-quality, were simply produced by Disney and the creators had no prior work experience with Disney. Unlike Nickelodeon however, Disney Channel focused on making their live-action cash cows become fangirl obsessions and teen idols. This is the reason that Disney’s 65-episode rule was created in the late 2000’s, and it would only apply to shows that debuted after it took effect (hence why Phineas and Ferb is able to defy that decree). In addition, the focus on these musical-based programs caused the decadence and eventual removal of Disney’s action block, Jetix, which had kid-friendly shows and a few iconic animes (due to differences in programming and schedule generally did not compete with Toonami, despite popular belief). While live-action cash cows do not last as long as animated ones because of the actors’ continuous aging, they made more of a profit this way from unsuspecting children and adults. Disney claims to be parent-approved, but the only parents that displayed their approbation were overly-protective control freaks and soccer moms. Yet like in the censorship controversy with Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon, they were as naïve as their own children in the sense of subliminal messages. If adults truly cared as much as we do for the well-being of future generations, they should not let Disney, in addition to the other two mainstream children’s networks, to continue down the destructive path they are following.

Disney Channel has been teaching kids, starting with the same unsuspecting generation, to "follow your dreams." However, they also essentially force worship on the unsuspecting addicts of their shows; in other words, these people are following the dreams that Disney is forcing on them, while fooling them into believing they can actually find true happiness by appeasing the people of Disney. While it is essential to help others find happiness in order to achieve it oneself, completely disregarding one’s own happiness in order to fulfill the greedy desires of corrupt people will only make a person feel good so long as the other one accepts them simply for making them happy. That is the kind of relationship Disney has with their millions of blindly-devoted fans; none of them actually try to obtain personal happiness by their own means, but rather by solely appeasing their peers and Disney. While Disney cannot punish a defiant person directly, the social conformity encouraged by Disney Channel’s current programming will make that person suffer from their peers’ lack of tolerance.

Too often does Disney, as well as Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon, want fans to use their shows as escapism. Many supporters even claim that watching those shows makes them feel good because they can escape the numerous hardships of the real world. That reasoning is basically the same mindset that drug addicts use to justify their addiction. Aside from the differences of the dangers, any type of addiction can be negative. These new programs have only encouraged the detachment more by making the unrealistic lives of fictional characters appear worth living. “The importance of quality for kids nowadays is excruciatingly important because what the 90's and early 2000's brought to television for kids and preteens made life worth living…The three brands need to make more high quality series teaching about how to correctly live….It’s infuriating to see the cartoons that taught us from the 90's and early 2000's [have] to complete [with] **** of what's on now” (David McGee). Instead of giving viewers a false sense of hope for what life can become, children’s shows should attempt to be more relatable to the viewers so they can truly reflect it on their own lives in a positive manner, and see how they can actually improve their own lives instead of always yearning for empty dreams.

For example; if a person really wanted to follow a career of becoming a singer or actor, they should constantly strive to improve. They should be concerned equally with their talent and personal enjoyment, and potential profit to a lesser degree. This is another flaw of many of not only television’s current singers, but also all of the people who perform any form of art for the three channels. Singers too often resort to Autotunes for their own talent, as well as focus on the money they will make, that they completely forget what real talent is. And this ignorance among people is what leads to the amount of scandals that Disney and Nickelodeon celebrities have been involved in.