I ask this because I really dont watch any shows that other people watch or rave about and frankly, I dont miss them.

I dont watch Breaking Bad, The Bridge, Dexter, The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, Sons of Anarchy, Louie, How I Met your Mother, NCIS, Mad Men, 2 Broke Girls, The Big Bang Theory etc.

Now maybe you watch some or all of these shows. I just cant get into them. The thing I dont miss not watching them. Does that make me an old fuddy duddy because it seems like everyone watches these shows?

With the exception of NCIS, I don't watch any of those shows either.

Don't worry about it. I watch some of those but in the 90's when everyone was watching Friends, I was watching Diagnosis Murder over on CBS. Nothing wrong with going against the grain.

You like what you like. It doesn't mean anything. Don't change because you think you should watch what everyone else is watching!! :)

I am outside the demographic the Media prefers, but I live by this slogan:

Grow Old? - Maybe.

Grow Up?

:D :crazy: :lol: :rofl: :rotflmao: :brent NEVER!!! :brent :rotflmao: :rofl: :lol: :crazy: :D

I ask this because I really dont watch any shows that other people watch or rave about and frankly, I dont miss them.

I dont watch Breaking Bad, The Bridge, Dexter, The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, Sons of Anarchy, Louie, How I Met your Mother, NCIS, Mad Men, 2 Broke Girls, The Big Bang Theory etc.

Now maybe you watch some or all of these shows. I just cant get into them. The thing I dont miss not watching them. Does that make me an old fuddy duddy because it seems like everyone watches these shows?

We only watched two shows last season, The Big Bang Theory and Mike and Molly. My husband and I just couldn't stomach the other shows and we really tried to give a lot of them a chance. The thing is we didn't start watching The Big Bang Theory and Mike and Molly till last year out of desperation and they grew on us. We don't watch any Reality shows and we are far from old. Just because you don't like the crude shows the networks put out doesn't make you a fuddy duddy. We all have different taste.

With the exception of NCIS, I don't watch any of those shows either.
The only one I watch is The Big Bang Theory.

Don't worry about it. I watch some of those but in the 90's when everyone was watching Friends, I was watching Diagnosis Murder over on CBS. Nothing wrong with going against the grain.

Me too. I also watched Matlock and Murder, She Wrote with my grandparents.

Except for Doctor Who, Once Upon a Time and NCIS (if my grandfather watches) I don't follow any of those shows listed or check out new shows unless it's something that would really interest me. Also, I don't have HBO or Showtime, where many of the "hot" shows are and have no interest in picking up the DVD's either.

I ask this because I really dont watch any shows that other people watch or rave about and frankly, I dont miss them.

I dont watch Breaking Bad, The Bridge, Dexter, The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, Sons of Anarchy, Louie, How I Met your Mother, NCIS, Mad Men, 2 Broke Girls, The Big Bang Theory etc.

Now maybe you watch some or all of these shows. I just cant get into them. The thing I dont miss not watching them. Does that make me an old fuddy duddy because it seems like everyone watches these shows?

No, you're not an old fuddy duddy, you watch what you like as do most people. It's nice to have so many choices now, not like the old days when there were only 3 stations to pick from. I watch a few of the shows you mentioned but it's because I like them not because they're popular. Even in our household we have different tastes in shows, that's how we ended up with several tv's. :lol:

Not everyone enjoys the same things. At least you gave them a try.

Don't worry about it. I watch some of those but in the 90's when everyone was watching Friends, I was watching Diagnosis Murder over on CBS. Nothing wrong with going against the grain.The worst episode of Diagnosis Murder is a hundred times better than the best episode of Friends.

Have you tried these shows? If you have and didn't care for them then that's your opinion and there's nothing wrong with that, but I feel like a lot of people on this board complain about modern TV without giving most of it a try.

Except for Doctor Who I don't watch any new shows either. And I'm in the target demographic.

Big lesson here is...BE YOURSELF!Only true appreciators of the television arts and sciences would watch what THEY feel is good tv instead of just jumping on pop culture bandwagons.And hey Gertie1999..I LOVE the Lennon/McCartney photo.I'm a lifelong Beatlefreak myself......

I don't think you're a fuddy fuddy either. My motto: be yourself! And like what you like. I watch practically nothing new (except for my Hot In Cleveland DVDs). I prefer the classics. That doesn't make me "old" either - for someone in their late 50s I lead a very active life - with lots of volunteer work and a job that's gone into major overtime mode - so there's not a lot of time to watch TV anyways. Like I said, just give me the classics, that I can watch every now and then on down time

Big lesson here is...BE YOURSELF!Only true appreciators of the television arts and sciences would watch what THEY feel is good tv instead of just jumping on pop culture bandwagons.And hey Gertie1999..I LOVE the Lennon/McCartney photo.I'm a lifelong Beatlefreak myself......

Thanks! They are my favorite band! :) I love their movies and music! Also their solo work to! I also like older TV to. I agree 100% with you everyone should just be themselves! :)

You are definitely NOT a fuddy duddy or any other type of label for not liking or watching most current or modern TV.

No...I like the older shows than the modern shows. But I also like cartoons and with the exception of "South Park", "Futurama", "ATHF", "Family Guy", "American Dad", "The Cleveland Show", and "The Looney Tunes Show"...I watch the more classic cartoons.

And I too, like The Beatles!

No, you're not an old fuddy duddy, you watch what you like as do most people. It's nice to have so many choices now, not like the old days when there were only 3 stations to pick from. I watch a few of the shows you mentioned but it's because I like them not because they're popular. Even in our household we have different tastes in shows, that's how we ended up with several tv's. :lol:

We are lucky to have so much variety on TV today, even if a lot of it is reality TV I don't care for. lol.

mets82, I don't watch any of those shows either and I have a feeling we are the same age and I think the old sitcoms were much funnier than todays.

Have you tried these shows? If you have and didn't care for them then that's your opinion and there's nothing wrong with that, but I feel like a lot of people on this board complain about modern TV without giving most of it a try.


Or, they don't have the time to sample every single show out there and have to go by trailers, previews, etc.

Is there seriously ANYONE on the planet who is able to sample every single show offered up?

Is there seriously ANYONE on the planet who is able to sample every single show offered up?

How awesome of a job would that be?! :lol: :wave: ;) To get paid to watch TV all day!!! :p

Or, they don't have the time to sample every single show out there and have to go by trailers, previews, etc.

Is there seriously ANYONE on the planet who is able to sample every single show offered up?

When did I say they should sample every single show?

How awesome of a job would that be?! :lol: :wave: ;) To get paid to watch TV all day!!! :p
Haha, that's basically what a TV critic does!

When did I say they should sample every single show?




You wrote, "but I feel like a lot of people on this board complain about modern TV without giving most of it a try."

When someone complains that others criticize shows without having every watched them, there's an implicit notion that one should not be doing that.

If that would apply to "most" shows, it certainly should apply to all. My point is that no one has time to sample everything, thus, 'some' shows, at least, must be 'criticized' (or chosen to be not watched) simply on the basis of reviews, previews, and such.

You're taking my words awfully literally. My point was that a lot of people complain about modern TV without actually watching or trying it any of it. Not everyone, but some. Obviously my suggestion isn't for everyone to sit down and watch every single TV show, that should go without saying.

You can tell by a trailer and previews if it's a show that you would like. That's usually how they get me to watch. Then after I watch an episode I decide if I'll stay with it or not. If the show is a hit chances are I'll sample it sooner or later to see what it is. That's what I did with the Office and that's when I decided it was junk. lol

You're taking my words awfully literally. My point was that a lot of people complain about modern TV without actually watching or trying it any of it. Not everyone, but some. Obviously my suggestion isn't for everyone to sit down and watch every single TV show, that should go without saying.

I understand your point, but I think it's possible to glean your viewing choices in other ways. For instance, with dining, if I dislike tomatoes and pasta, it stands to reason that I wouldn't like something called "tomato pasta soup", wouldn't it?

Likewise with TV. If I don't care for snarky humor and/or relationship/dating based shows, makes sense I probably wouldn't care for Friends, which I can probably detect from simply watching promos and previews.

I understand your point, but I think it's possible to glean your viewing choices in other ways. For instance, with dining, if I dislike tomatoes and pasta, it stands to reason that I wouldn't like something called "tomato pasta soup", wouldn't it?

Likewise with TV. If I don't care for snarky humor and/or relationship/dating based shows, makes sense I probably wouldn't care for Friends, which I can probably detect from simply watching promos and previews.
Which I should have figured out before watching New Girl. I gave it almost a year before I gave up on it. It has an attractive cast but it's just not my cup of tea.

Which I should have figured out before watching New Girl. I gave it almost a year before I gave up on it. It has an attractive cast but it's just not my cup of tea.

It's great to give series a try, if you have the time. Sometimes you get lucky. I was just trying to think of the last time that actually happened (where I thought I wouldn't like a series, gave it a chance anyway, and did enjoy it) and honestly, I think it was Friends. I was all set to dislike this comedy about young, attractive trendy urban people, but darned if the writing didn't hook me in.

Since then, I got nuthin', lol!

It's great to give series a try, if you have the time. Sometimes you get lucky. I was just trying to think of the last time that actually happened (where I thought I wouldn't like a series, gave it a chance anyway, and did enjoy it) and honestly, I think it was Friends. I was all set to dislike this comedy about young, attractive trendy urban people, but darned if the writing didn't hook me in.

Since then, I got nuthin', lol!
I'd probably have to go back further to the 80's. I know originally I didn't care for Night Court or Cheers but eventually I got hooked. I didn't get hooked on the A-Team until the show was almost over and then I became a big fan watching it in syndication. Usually if a show doesn't hook me right away I give up on it. lol

I'd probably have to go back further to the 80's. I know originally I didn't care for Night Court or Cheers but eventually I got hooked. I didn't get hooked on the A-Team until the show was almost over and then I became a big fan watching it in syndication. Usually if a show doesn't hook me right away I give up on it. lol

I hated Family Guy when it premiered on Fox, and dismissed it as a Simpsons knock off. But when they started showing it on Adult Swim on Cartoon Network, I really got into it.

Then they brought it back a few years later, and it was...OK...for a couple years, but honestly, it's been running on fumes for many years now.

But yeah, that generally doesn't happen to me much. And I note it's happening less and less as time goes by. :)

I love the feeling of being pleasantly surprised by a series after giving it a chance. I feel like it's been happening to me more and more. In recent years, after previously avoiding/dismissing these shows, I've gotten into Cheers, George Lopez, The Dick Van Dyke Show, Leave it to Beaver, and Maude. (I realize that these are all older series. LOL. I tend to watch more classic TV than anything else nowadays.)

I understand your point, but I think it's possible to glean your viewing choices in other ways. For instance, with dining, if I dislike tomatoes and pasta, it stands to reason that I wouldn't like something called "tomato pasta soup", wouldn't it?

Likewise with TV. If I don't care for snarky humor and/or relationship/dating based shows, makes sense I probably wouldn't care for Friends, which I can probably detect from simply watching promos and previews.
I don't really get how your point contradicts mine though. I simply said a lot of people don't give new shows a try at all. If a show doesn't appeal to you then sure, don't watch it...but I find it hard to believe that there's a person out there who literally has zero shows that appeal to them.

Also, trailers and marketing can be decieving. It can give you an idea of a show, but rarely does it tell the full story.

I like tv, but as I get older, I would really like to get out of the house and socialize. Tv watching is solitary event.

I ask this because I really dont watch any shows that other people watch or rave about and frankly, I dont miss them.

I dont watch Breaking Bad, The Bridge, Dexter, The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, Sons of Anarchy, Louie, How I Met your Mother, NCIS, Mad Men, 2 Broke Girls, The Big Bang Theory etc.

Now maybe you watch some or all of these shows. I just cant get into them. The thing I dont miss not watching them. Does that make me an old fuddy duddy because it seems like everyone watches these shows?


I can't watch Two Broke Girls because it airs on Monday Nights and I am watching Monday Night Football.

I can't watch Big Bang Theory because it airs on Thursdays at 8pm and during the Fall that's when the NFL is on and in the spring that's when the NBA is on


So I have to catch two broke girls and BBT in syndication LOL

just the fact that the OP used the term "fuddy duddy" makes it so.

I should've explained it a little better. The thing is that I do have the time to watch these shows, its just I don't have any desire to watch them. If I miss them, I miss them. Thats what I was trying to say.

I should've explained it a little better. The thing is that I do have the time to watch these shows, its just I don't have any desire to watch them. If I miss them, I miss them. Thats what I was trying to say.
You like what you like. There are quite a lot of shows that are on today that I have no desire to watch. I even have that problem with some shows that I do watch. My DVR gets filled up pretty fast and at the end of the season I sometimes just delete them all.

Here is a suggestion that should clean up today's TV. Put all the execs, producers and writers of all the networks on a remake of a really bad and long on the tooth reality show.

Survivor, the Donner Party. You don't get voted off the island, you get voted into the cooking pot. They want to see a program with almost no overhead? You don't have to pay or even feed the cast. In the end, all but one will be no longer "ON" the Island. Well, not in their previous form.

:crazy:

I should've explained it a little better. The thing is that I do have the time to watch these shows, its just I don't have any desire to watch them. If I miss them, I miss them. Thats what I was trying to say.
I agree with what you say. Life doesn't have to revolve around television.

No, you are not a fuddy-duddy. Most of the shows you mentioned are just over-hyped, they really aren't as great as the critics say they are.

It doesn't matter how old you are or what your personal tastes might be, I feel that if you go back to any specific era in time from about roughly the early 1950s to the late 80s or early 90s and compare it to today in terms of what we now call pop culture, which would consist of movies, music, TV shows, and sports, there is no comparison. The old days were better in every department. This is why although I try to follow and do my best to keep up with today's trends (or should that be #trends? :lol: ), I prefer to watch and listen to older forms of entertainment, primarily from the 50s and 60s before I was even born. Think about this: Why would you, in your right mind, want to hear Rihanna, Maroon 5, Bruno Mars, or Justin Bieber, when Elvis Presley, The Beatles, and The Beach Boys, to name a few, can also be heard on mp3 for free on many sites? Or instead of watching reality shows, why not the crazy and funny "fantasy" shows of the 60s like "Bewitched", "Get Smart", "My Favorite Martian", or "The Beverly Hillbillies", in their original form on YouTube instead of the stupid movie versions that have been made recently. (Thank you Will Ferrell for completely destroying Bewitched for me. I will never watch you again. Ditto Steve Carell for Get Smart.) To me, it's simply a matter of taste rather than nostalgia. I've lost count of how many times I've watched episodes of my favourite series on YouTube and then read the comments section where a young fan is discovering the show for the first time and loves it or someone will wonder why there aren't more like it today. We simply need more of these shows on TV on any channel (especially in Canada :mad: :mad: ) because there has to be some way that "Gilligan's Island" can co-exist with "Lost" and "Survivor", or Bart Simpson with Dennis The Menace. If someone can figure that out, then we'd all be happy.

I watch several you mentioned and love them...my spouse watches several of those that I don't and loves them...we like some things the same, some things not so much...but that is what makes the world go round. Don't think it makes one a fuddy duddy. I prefer to watch a lot of the classic shows and the spouse, not so much. Different strokes for different folks I guess. If it makes you happy to watch, then do so, if you don't want to watch what everyone else seems to be watching and liking, then don't, I don't watch a lot of shows that people rave over.

I have found myself though watching some newer shows once in syndication and finding that I enjoy them, after poo-pooing them a bit when they were airing. I never watched Seinfeld, but do enjoy it in syndication...same goes for Raymond, King of Queens and Big Bang. I watched more Roseanne's in syndication then I ever did when it aired. I watched all the Wings in order when some channel aired them a couple years ago...had never watched much before, and I think its a great show. Friends I could never stomach and still wouldn't watch.

There are some shows I've sampled though, that I cannot fathom how ANYONE would watch or say they liked it.:lol:

No, you are not a fuddy-duddy. Most of the shows you mentioned are just over-hyped, they really aren't as great as the critics say they are.
I concur,and I'll go a step further. Most modern entertainment in general, is very,very over-hyped,much more nowadays than even just 15-20 years ago,and not only by the critics.I think one major reason modern entertainment is hyped so much is because most of it is really not good,it's a little like advertising a bad product.If something is truly good it sells itself-not much hype needed.Even a lot of todays celebrities including many of the biggest names come off as nothing more than media creations.

It doesn't matter how old you are or what your personal tastes might be, I feel that if you go back to any specific era in time from about roughly the early 1950s to the late 80s or early 90s and compare it to today in terms of what we now call pop culture, which would consist of movies, music, TV shows, and sports, there is no comparison. The old days were better in every department. This is why although I try to follow and do my best to keep up with today's trends (or should that be #trends? :lol: ), I prefer to watch and listen to older forms of entertainment, primarily from the 50s and 60s before I was even born. Think about this: Why would you, in your right mind, want to hear Rihanna, Maroon 5, Bruno Mars, or Justin Bieber, when Elvis Presley, The Beatles, and The Beach Boys, to name a few, can also be heard on mp3 for free on many sites? Or instead of watching reality shows, why not the crazy and funny "fantasy" shows of the 60s like "Bewitched", "Get Smart", "My Favorite Martian", or "The Beverly Hillbillies", in their original form on YouTube instead of the stupid movie versions that have been made recently. (Thank you Will Ferrell for completely destroying Bewitched for me. I will never watch you again. Ditto Steve Carell for Get Smart.) To me, it's simply a matter of taste rather than nostalgia. I've lost count of how many times I've watched episodes of my favourite series on YouTube and then read the comments section where a young fan is discovering the show for the first time and loves it or someone will wonder why there aren't more like it today. We simply need more of these shows on TV on any channel (especially in Canada :mad: :mad: ) because there has to be some way that "Gilligan's Island" can co-exist with "Lost" and "Survivor", or Bart Simpson with Dennis The Menace. If someone can figure that out, then we'd all be happy.

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I like Sals post too.He's right,why watch the newer stuff,when the older programs are so much better.Same goes for movies and music,as he mentioned "there is no comparison".

I like Sals post too.He's right,why watch the newer stuff,when the older programs are so much better.Same goes for movies and music,as he mentioned "there is no comparison".

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I would actually watch the new shows if I liked any of them but I don't. I really really wish I did because I need something to watch. Last week the TV was only on for about an hour. :rolleyes:

I think this photo does a good job of summarizing not only Lucille Ball as to what made her great but also what made most classic TV series of this era great, and that's one good reason why I still enjoy them today!

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/5e/7f/23/5e7f23f38daba4283f741d5b84782c21.jpg


In case you can't read the caption, it says: LUCY - She didn't use fart jokes, sex jokes, or random pop culture references on her show and she's still remembered as one of the funniest women on Earth.

Sounds like a fairly simple formula to me. You would think more of today's series would want to follow it.

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I would actually watch the new shows if I liked any of them but I don't. I really really wish I did because I need something to watch. Last week the TV was only on for about an hour. :rolleyes:

Same here. Except for sports and Antenna TV and Me-TV, I don't watch television. What I get sick of with all the shows from the last 20 years forward is it always gets around to one thing: sex. That's all they talk about or do.

I'm not a prude and yes I enjoy sex with my partner, but I don't want to see it all the damned time on every TV show that's on. TV is not the place for it. Also it seems so many shows now are all built around insulting people. Is that really funny? I guess it is to some but not me.

I'm 40 and watch mostly shows from the 50's through the early 80's. After that TV just started to decline and with each passing year it picked up more momentum rolling down hill like a snowball.

I'm 40 and watch mostly shows from the 50's through the early 80's. After that TV just started to decline and with each passing year it picked up more momentum rolling down hill like a snowball.
I agree that the best TV shows were made during the 1950s-early 80's.As you mentioned the early 80s is when TV STARTED it's decline,there were still good programs etc.,even some great shows being made,but less. By the 1990s TV really took a nosedive,a few good shows but that was it,and the quality of television has continued(as you put it) "rolling dowhill like a snowball".

There was a slight decline from the 1980s to the late 1990s, then The advent of "Unscripted" Shows like Who wants to be a Millionaire and Survivor began the REAL Decline of TV Shows as we knew them IMO. In 2007 I finally tossed in the towel. Thank Heaven for DVDs.

There was a slight decline from the 1980s to the late 1990s, then The advent of "Unscripted" Shows like Who wants to be a Millionaire and Survivor began the REAL Decline of TV Shows as we knew them IMO. In 2007 I finally tossed in the towel. Thank Heaven for DVDs.There's a big difference between Who Wants to be a Millionaire and Survivor. I too hate Survivor, without it hitting we wouldn't be flooded with reality shows today. But Millionaire is a game show, a classic genre that has been popular for a long time. Although I prefer Greed from the same time, FOX cancelled it way too soon.

There's a big difference between Who Wants to be a Millionaire and Survivor. I too hate Survivor, without it hitting we wouldn't be flooded with reality shows today. But Millionaire is a game show, a classic genre that has been popular for a long time. Although I prefer Greed from the same time, FOX cancelled it way too soon.
My big problem with WWTBAM was that ABC shoved it down our throats. They had it on 4 or 5 nights a week. That forshadowed what the networks started to do with these reality shows. What happened to airing a show once a week?

My big problem with WWTBAM was that ABC shoved it down our throats. They had it on 4 or 5 nights a week. That forshadowed what the networks started to do with these reality shows. What happened to airing a show once a week?

That's what I didn't like, FIVE Decent TV Shows were Cancelled to make room for this Game Show. It was the beginning of the end. :rip:

My big problem with WWTBAM was that ABC shoved it down our throats. They had it on 4 or 5 nights a week. That forshadowed what the networks started to do with these reality shows. What happened to airing a show once a week?

Around that same time, I remember reading a quote from a rival network executive commenting on why NBC was also showing their news program Dateline 5 times a week in prime time. His reply was "If they had 5 Seinfelds, they wouldn't need 5 Datelines."

And that's the problem with TV today, not enough quality "scripted" shows of any type that you can fill your schedule with, so we're stuck with piles of junk disguised as "reality".

Wouldn't you love to see the networks go back to a fall schedule like this one? Talk about Must See TV on nearly every night!

Fall TV - 1965-66 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965%E2%80%9366_United_States_network_television_schedule)

(PS - Love the Avatar! Cowboys are my team too! :wave: )

Around that same time, I remember reading a quote from a rival network executive commenting on why NBC was also showing their news program Dateline 5 times a week in prime time. His reply was "If they had 5 Seinfelds, they wouldn't need 5 Datelines."

And that's the problem with TV today, not enough quality "scripted" shows of any type that you can fill your schedule with, so we're stuck with piles of junk disguised as "reality".

Wouldn't you love to see the networks go back to a fall schedule like this one? Talk about Must See TV on nearly every night!

Fall TV - 1965-66 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965%E2%80%9366_United_States_network_television_schedule)

(PS - Love the Avatar! Cowboys are my team too! :wave: )
Thanks Sal. :)

That was a great schedule. It had all types of different genres: sitcoms, Variety Shows, Westerns, Medical shows, Sci-Fi etc. That's the way it was when I was a kid. Every fall was like Christmas. There was just an anticipation for all the new shows every year. I still watch prime-time television but it's not the same. There is a sameness all over network television. Plus you have to use your DVR to program your own tv schedules because it's rare that you have a great night of network tv anymore.

If you subscribe to your local PBS station to keep the Lawrence Welk Show on...then you might be an Old Fuddy Duddy! :lol:

I did look at the 1965-1966 schedule and many many shows I remember watching. I tend to think a big change came on tv viewing when when the county received cable. Prior to early 1980's we didn't have so many channels to choose from. You only had a dozen stations, 2 or those in our area were PBS types and 3 or 4 were independent local and then the 3 networks. If a show took in 7 million viewers or less you were cancelled. As I read somewhere, the more choices you have, the less you like. The other night for the first time saw 2 Broke Girls and it wouldn't be a show if I was a kid I would seeing with my mother.

I also enjoyed Greed but wasn't a fan of Millionaire. Possibly because I never cared for Regis Philbin. He just has no personality IMHO while Wollery is a great host with a good sense of humor. Thankfully I have plenty of DVD sets so I can watch plenty of classic TV

Wouldn't you love to see the networks go back to a fall schedule like this one? Talk about Must See TV on nearly every night!

Fall TV - 1965-66 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965%E2%80%9366_United_States_network_television_schedule)


Of course I would.The problem is they don't have the talent anymore to make such wonderful shows,plus other factors surely also come into play.They'd be better off just re-running those shows.--It's amazing when you look at the line-ups from ABC,CBS or NBC during the 1960s-70s. During ONE year(take your pick) anyone of those networks(also take your pick) put out more quality TV than ALL of the networks AND cable combined over the past 15 years or so.

Of course I would.The problem is they don't have the talent anymore to make such wonderful shows,plus other factors surely also come into play.They'd be better off just re-running those shows.--It's amazing when you look at the line-ups from ABC,CBS or NBC during the 1960s-70s. During ONE year anyone of those networks(take your pick) put out more quality TV than ALL of the networks AND cable combined over the past 15 years or so.

TV borrowed everything it started with with Radio and Movies.

The Movies had a formula that worked and groomed their actors. You didn't want to be groomed then you didn't want to work, period. What came out of it was the Studio Actors. People like Robert Wagner, Stephenie Powers, Red Skelton, Rock Hudson and many more that went from the big screen to the small screen successfully. The Networks borrowed from that formula. But they wrote shows with staying power and didn't try and make every one a friggin movie. Outside of the Reality Shows, the problem we have today is that they try and make it just too slick and get lost somewhere along the way. They aren't writing like an Andy Griffith Show or even a Threes Company where you can miss 2 weeks and come right back in and still find it interesting and entertaining (little Jack cut his eye teeth in the Movie and TV Industry from Birth).

Of course, the Radio did pretty much dominate the 50s and much of the 60s when it converted to TV. In fact, using Gunsmoke, Gunsmoke ran as both a TV show AND a Radio Show at the same time. 2 different casts were used. William Conrad has such a distinctive voice that he holds peoples interests with just that alone. Conrad was used in TV when they needed a voice as a narrator. But when it came time to do the TV series, Conrad was rather short and rotund. It didn't translate well to the TV Screen. But he did play a bad guy on Gunsmoke a couple of times and you can't say that William Conrad can't act. So they brought in a WWII Wounded Vet to play the part that was taken from Movies, James Arness.

And let's not forget the successful format used in shows like Star Trek which were called; Space Operas, Space Westerns. Both were correct. It was the same concept. In fact, the writer of Paladin and the creator of Star Trek is one in the same. And is the Concept of Captain Kirk and Palidin that far off? Well, outside of Richard Boone is a much better actor.

I ask this because I really dont watch any shows that other people watch or rave about and frankly, I dont miss them.

I dont watch Breaking Bad, The Bridge, Dexter, The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, Sons of Anarchy, Louie, How I Met your Mother, NCIS, Mad Men, 2 Broke Girls, The Big Bang Theory etc.

Now maybe you watch some or all of these shows. I just cant get into them. The thing I dont miss not watching them. Does that make me an old fuddy duddy because it seems like everyone watches these shows?
Nope it's just not you, except for Big Bang Theory reruns and 2 Broke Girls which is getting funnier lately I have no interest whatsoever in the other shows mentioned.

And part of the blame is probably to San Diego Comic-Con which in the last few years has been taken over by Hollywood making these shows that might fit into that genre acceptable to the culture lexicon.

But I can tell you this much the average person wouldn't be able to pick out Jon Hamm, Bryan Cranston or anyone from The Walking Dead out of a crowd, they are only known to us internet geeks.

I also enjoyed Greed but wasn't a fan of Millionaire. Possibly because I never cared for Regis Philbin. He just has no personality IMHO while Wollery is a great host with a good sense of humor. Thankfully I have plenty of DVD sets so I can watch plenty of classic TV

I liked Greed too. Many shows which were quiz type shows, the shows where you actually learned something, always seemed to fade away. I tend to think the majority of the viewers don't like thinking shows. How long is Let's Make a Deal been on now? Price is Right?. Keep on going Alec Trebek. I like you.

Most of the new shows I watch are actually British shows. PBS (yup, that old fuddy-duddy network) will air some of the current stuff across the pond and BBC America does when they're not shoving reruns of Star Trek: TNG down our throats. I find they interest me more than the current American scripted shows. That said, I am looking forward to Once Upon a Time in Wonderland and I may check out Marvel Agents of Shield.

I all fairness, there are some very good Sitcoms on Network. There are also two or three Cop Shows that are very good. But the amount of Reality Shows are pathetic.

I am also getting tired of DWTS and America's got Talent. Enough already. Both dominate 2 nights a week and it's gotten tired.

I all fairness, there are some very good Sitcoms on Network. There are also two or three Cop Shows that are very good. But the amount of Reality Shows are pathetic.

I am also getting tired of DWTS and America's got Talent. Enough already. Both dominate 2 nights a week and it's gotten tired.Actually Dancing with the Stars finally dropped its results show for the following season and will just be airing on Monday nights now.

And America's Got Talent only airs in the summer...

i don't think you're old. just personal choice.

My big problem with WWTBAM was that ABC shoved it down our throats. They had it on 4 or 5 nights a week. That forshadowed what the networks started to do with these reality shows. What happened to airing a show once a week?


Actually I think WWTBAM saved TV. Up until then the Prime Time Schedule was rather dire. Of course this was at a time when I changed my shift at work, and I had a steady girlfriend, so I didn't watch much TV :lol:

No. Just because you hate modern television does not make you a fuddy duddy. You like what you like

They aren't writing like an Andy Griffith Show or even a Threes Company where you can miss 2 weeks and come right back in and still find it interesting and entertaining (little Jack cut his eye teeth in the Movie and TV Industry from Birth).


I take it then that you mean that today's shows have writers who write umpteen things for umpteen characters, and you have to know everything about all of those umpteen characters, or you'll find yourself lost in a hurry. Is that true?

That again is why I've enjoyed shows like M Squad, where, as soon as the crime was committed in the (seemingly invariably short) first segment, Lt. Frank Ballinger of that titular squad of the Chicago Police (the great, late Lee Marvin) jumped right into the investigation thereof-- no complicated backstory to follow; basically, it was crime, investigation and aftermath in 30 minutes every week on that 1957-60 NBC series.

We only watched two shows last season, The Big Bang Theory and Mike and Molly. My husband and I just couldn't stomach the other shows and we really tried to give a lot of them a chance. The thing is we didn't start watching The Big Bang Theory and Mike and Molly till last year out of desperation and they grew on us. We don't watch any Reality shows and we are far from old. Just because you don't like the crude shows the networks put out doesn't make you a fuddy duddy. We all have different taste.

UPDATE!
We stopped watching both of the above shows not long after this previous post. They both changed. It was like they had different writers. Now we watch only one new show, Blue Bloods. I think the previous post was from 2013.

i think the rule of thumb is that if your favorite show is still Matlock, then you have to accept that you are officially an old fuddy-duddy

i think the rule of thumb is that if your favorite show is still Matlock, then you have to accept that you are officially an old fuddy-duddy
Well in the case of Matlock the star of the show was a 60 plus year old actor and only grandparents watched that show :lol: .

But what about a show like Friends that starred young actors in their 20's-30's, years down the road what will their core audience be, those who watched in the original run are they considered old fuddy duddies or the newest generation that discovers the show.

Just call me a fuddy duddy! I'm only 34 and I love all the classics. I can't stand the new shows.

Murder, She Wrote and Matlock ANYDAY over NCIS or CSI.

I Love Lucy and Green Acres ANYDAY over The Big Bang Theory or 2 Broke Girls

I'm proud to be a fuddy duddy!

i think the rule of thumb is that if your favorite show is still Matlock, then you have to accept that you are officially an old fuddy-duddy


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Just call me a fuddy duddy! I'm only 34 and I love all the classics. I can't stand the new shows.

Murder, She Wrote and Matlock ANYDAY over NCIS or CSI.

I Love Lucy and Green Acres ANYDAY over The Big Bang Theory or 2 Broke Girls

I'm proud to be a fuddy duddy!

Agreed! While I like some of the most recent shows, but a very select few, I will gladly take the classics over most of the modern shows! I don't know if I'd dislike NCIS of CSI but I do dislike Big Bang and 2BG.

Get off my lawn!

I Love Lucy and Green Acres ANYDAY over The Big Bang Theory or 2 Broke Girls


True of me as well, albeit you can put Barney Miller and The Bob Newhart Show in for me.

I can say I am 40 years old and watching The Bob Newhart Show or I Love Lucy is way better than any of the crap they put on TV now. I rarely watch anything on network shows anymore except The Goldberg's on Wednesday. I do love my 2 Broke Girls because of Kat Dennings but I only watch it sparingly.