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Mr. Television
06-04-2013, 11:03 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/03/nyregion/fewer-fans-visit-all-in-the-family-tv-home.html

Stifled by Time’s Passage, Fewer Fans Visit the Bunkers’ TV Home
By VIVIAN YEE

Published: June 2, 2013



Years ago, they came in droves: the fans who knocked on the door, begged to be shown around the living room, and snapped photos in front of the little row house in Queens that, on their television screens, anyway, belonged to Archie Bunker and his wife, Edith.


But when the news arrived on Saturday that Jean Stapleton — best known for playing the sweet, daffy Edith to Carroll O’Connor’s cranky, bigoted Archie on “All in the Family” for most of the 1970s — had died, only a few gawkers and a lone television news crew came out to reminisce over 89-70 Cooper Avenue, a little blue house across from St. John’s Cemetery with a shiny flagpole, a floral wreath on the door and a tidy front garden of pansies and potted plants.

“There used to be a lot,” as many as 20 a month, said Peter Alcuri, 75, whose back porch faces Cooper Avenue. “No more.”

After all, it has been decades since the everyday dramas of Edith and Archie were played out weekly in millions of American living rooms, as Edith tried to broker peace between Archie and his black neighbor, George Jefferson, and he would constantly refer to her as a dingbat.

“I don’t think the women today would like that,” Mr. Alcuri mused.

It has been years since the nearly all-white, blue-collar neighborhood of the show matched reality in Glendale, where the Cooper Avenue house sits, or Astoria, where the show was set. When the show was running, recalled Mr. Alcuri, who has lived in the neighborhood for 54 years, the block was full of older residents of German, Irish and Italian descent, whose children later sold the houses. “Now it’s all mixed,” he said, with more Asian and Hispanic families.

In the next yard stood Gustavo Recalde, 41, a five-year resident of the block who said he had never heard of “All in the Family.”

“I don’t know about it,” he said.

In 2000, when Jeff Myhre, 51, moved in a few doors down from 89-70 Cooper, the mover was delighted to inform him that he was living on “the Archie Bunker block.” That struck a chord with Mr. Myhre, who grew up in suburban Denver watching “All in the Family,” just because “it was on,” and earnestly discussing the latest plot turns on the playground the next Monday, he said.

It did not resonate so much with Mr. Myhre’s wife, who hails from Alabama and is black. (She is more of a “Sanford and Son” fan.)

“Archie’s block has changed a little,” Mr. Myhre, who is white, said, chuckling.

But Archie’s son-in-law, Michael Stivic, would be glad to know that the block still has at least one die-hard liberal in Mr. Myhre, whose wife often compares him to Meathead, as Archie nicknamed Michael.

Michael may have been at odds with Archie, but he has his devotees on the block. Stan Podolsky, a fan of the show who has lived in the house attached to the Bunker residence for 15 years, said he identifies with Michael because they both are Polish.

(Lest anyone misinterpret the fictional geography of the block, he clarified that he does not live in the Jeffersons’ house. Rather, in his own parlance, “I’m that Italian family,” the Lorenzos, who lived next door to the Bunkers.)

Mr. Podolsky, too, mused that only a handful of people came by to see the house each year.

“Life goes on, I guess,” he said. But he noted that the show lives on in reruns on cable channels like Nick at Nite and TV Land.

Does he ever watch them?

“Of course! I’m old!”

It is probably just as well that the tourists have thinned. On Sunday, when the woman who now lives in the house heard the screechy strains of the show’s theme song, “Those Were the Days,” outside, she slammed the door. Neighbors said she was closely related to Dorothy Brandow, who lived in the house from 1924, when her parents bought it, until at least 2001. Ms. Brandow died in 2006, leaving the house to its current owner.

Ms. Brandow may have liked the attention no better than the house’s current occupant. When a reporter called after Mr. O’Connor died in 2001, her response was swift.

“Oh, good grief,” she said.

McGillicuddy
06-05-2013, 07:16 PM
There were several times castmembers were seen on a front porch. The house spoken of in the article didn't have a front porch. I never understood that.

Retro4Life
06-05-2013, 08:02 PM
Neat article, Sonny. Takes me back to a simpler time. I always wished we could have seen something of the outside of the house, but we never saw the family in the yard, just on the porch.

TVFactFan
06-19-2013, 04:16 PM
You would never know that Bunker house is across the street from a graveyard lol

gilligan fanatic
06-19-2013, 06:38 PM
You would never know that Bunker house is across the street from a graveyard lol

That is what surprised me most too!

Interesting article, maybe people just have more privacy now then they use to too. Even though I love AITF I don't think I'd have the nerve to ask them to go in there house and take a look around. It would make a great facebook picture in the front yard though ;)

TVFactFan
06-19-2013, 07:53 PM
That is what surprised me most too!

Interesting article, maybe people just have more privacy now then they use to too. Even though I love AITF I don't think I'd have the nerve to ask them to go in there house and take a look around. It would make a great facebook picture in the front yard though ;)


But the inside of that house probably looks nothing like the AITF living room which would make someone odd to even ask to look inside like Archie and Edith were real people LOL

Mr. Television
06-19-2013, 09:19 PM
But the inside of that house probably looks nothing like the AITF living room which would make someone odd to even ask to look inside like Archie and Edith were real people LOL
I know. The show was filmed on a soundstage. lol

gilligan fanatic
06-20-2013, 04:18 PM
But the inside of that house probably looks nothing like the AITF living room which would make someone odd to even ask to look inside like Archie and Edith were real people LOL

I bet it is super modern looking inside-lol Some dummy goes in and says where is Archie's chair :lol:

McGillicuddy
06-20-2013, 07:51 PM
I bet it is super modern looking inside-lol Some dummy goes in and says where is Archie's chair :lol:
Archie's and Edith's chairs are in The Smithsonian in Washington.

Mr. Television
06-20-2013, 07:56 PM
Archie's and Edith's chairs are in The Smithsonian in Washington.
Yea I saw them when I was up there many years ago.

gilligan fanatic
06-26-2013, 04:53 PM
Yea I saw them when I was up there many years ago.

Same display as Joe Friday's badge and I believe Fonzie's jacket, I saw it maybe 7 years ago.

ThomasE
11-25-2013, 03:18 PM
You would never know that Bunker house is across the street from a graveyard lol

I actually live about less than a mile away from the house that provided the exterior for the show. I thought that was so cool to find out.

TVFactFan
11-25-2013, 03:23 PM
I actually live about less than a mile away from the house that provided the exterior for the show. I thought that was so cool to find out.



And I now live 5 mins away from the church featured on AMEN lol


But that's cool to live so close to the block featured on AITF

ThomasE
11-25-2013, 03:31 PM
And I now live 5 mins away from the church featured on AMEN lol


But that's cool to live so close to the block featured on AITF

Cool! If you can, go find out when Reuben and Thelma's son is graduating from College. LOL.

TVFactFan
11-25-2013, 03:34 PM
Cool! If you can, go find out when Reuben and Thelma's son is graduating from College. LOL.



I will never forget that day at age of 11 years old with everyone screaming

"george jefferson is around the corner":lol: :lol:

ThomasE
11-25-2013, 03:37 PM
I will never forget that day at age of 11 years old with everyone screaming

"george jefferson is around the corner":lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dude111
02-19-2014, 08:58 PM
There were several times castmembers were seen on a front porch. The house spoken of in the article didn't have a front porch. I never understood that.I wouldnt mind visiting his house!!!!


Wow that whole street even!!!!!!! (Find Lionel and go out to eat,etc :))

Will Dockery
05-16-2014, 03:30 AM
There were several times castmembers were seen on a front porch. The house spoken of in the article didn't have a front porch. I never understood that.

No front porch, and I was always puzzled, as I mentioned elsewhere, that the house is obviously a duplex while the Bunkers didn't seem to be that close to neighbors.

Will Dockery
05-16-2014, 03:34 AM
You would never know that Bunker house is across the street from a graveyard lol

That would really have changed the tone of the series if that bit had been included, indeed...

Will Dockery
05-16-2014, 03:36 AM
I actually live about less than a mile away from the house that provided the exterior for the show. I thought that was so cool to find out.

Stroll down for a beer at Kelsey's Bar?

Dude111
05-16-2014, 10:01 PM
Lets do it!!

I wonder what that bar is called now?? (I would order a soda :))

TVFactFan
05-16-2014, 10:07 PM
Lets do it!!

I wonder what that bar is called now?? (I would order a soda :))


are you on city-data.com?