Just what Americans need: more TV channels filled with classic TV sitcoms from the 60s to the 90s. (Life is not fair!! :( )

It seems that a new company called Zeus Media Partners is rumoured to be considering a series of pay-tv stations that will provide classic sitcoms with each channel representing a different decade: 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. Only shows from that decade will be seen on that station. For example, the 70s station might include Three's Company, All In The Family or MASH, but don't expect Bewitched or Family Ties. Those will be in their own stations.

It's all speculation at this point but you can read about it here:

Cable Nets Featuring Retro TV In Works (http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/05/31/cable-nets-featuring-retro-tv-in-works/)

I'd pay for it.

Sounds good but here are the concerns :your provider has to carry it, cost?, bandwidth on each system, and more importantly when contract negations come up one, some or all of the channels can be taken down till agreement is reached between provider and affiliate. At least with Antennatv and MEtv these are not issues. and thumbs down for them to leave out the 50's.

I'll believe it when I see it. I do think that when you make classic tv channels by decade, I think you water down each channel because you only have one decade to choose from.

There is a reason networks like TVLand have gone away from classic programming: the revenue is just not there. A network won't be able to operate for years with only repeat programming. If it does come to fruition, I'd say it lasts a few years (at best) and then shuts down.

This could work if they didn't shove the same reruns that have been crammed down our throats for years all day. However, I could live with it if they were aired uncut with the closing credits intact and no split-screens or voiceovers and those annoying-as-hell pop-ups in the screen. If this comes-to-pass, I hope they don't air just sitcoms plus I'd like to see shows that haven't been in syndication in years such as Occasional Wife, Love On a Rooftop, The People's Choice, Hennesey, Please Don't Eat the Daisies and many many more. They should also devote time to airing short-lived series as well.

What I find funny is that classic tv aired on tv for over 30 years and was used extensively when cable tv first began. It was a major selling point of cable not to mention the beginings of N@N and TV Land but now the revenue is not just there. :rolleyes:

A new company but the resumes of those involved speak highly. Should be interesting.

http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/garth-ancier-lines-up-tv-vets-to-launch-four-retro-cable-nets-exclusive-1200490723/

Shows like "Three's Company" and "Lost in Space" aren't on syndication anymore, so these new retro channels would chance that.
Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/tv-tattle#3V1oVhFfMemkoliZ.99

http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/garth-ancier-lines-up-tv-vets-to-launch-four-retro-cable-nets-exclusive-1200490723/

Shows like "Three's Company" and "Lost in Space" aren't on syndication anymore, so these new retro channels would chance that.
Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/tv-tattle#3V1oVhFfMemkoliZ.99


What's the point of the second link? :confused: It just takes you to that TV Tattle blog which links to the same article on Variety.

This sounded like a good idea until I saw that it was Pay TV. I wouldn't pay for a retro channel unless it was included in my cable plan. I'd rather wait and see if the DVD's of my favorite shows come out and buy them.

I love Classic TV, but am turned off by this for several reasons: (In addition to the following concerns)

1.) If the shows are not completely uncut and commercial free with no split-screens, the whole project is moot. You'll be seeing the same programs you can see on other networks, You-Tube, and Hulu.

2.) Few will pay for cut programs with commercials, not enough will pay to ensure longevity of the network.

3.) Are they just considering this because 50's-90's shows are cheaper to produce than current shows in a tight economy?

4.) Will each of the five genre's of shows, be offered as one set of stations for distribution? Or could buyers choose the 60's and 70's station, but not the 50's , 80's, or 90's?

Jack

Shows like "Three's Company" and "Lost in Space" aren't on syndication anymore, so these new retro channels would chance that.

Lost in Space is currently on MeTV, in their Saturday night lineup.

It sounds like a good idea,but the fact that they want to be Commercial cable/satellite channels means that they'll probably heavily edit the shows and load them with advertising.

I love Classic TV, but am turned off by this for several reasons: (In addition to the following concerns)

1.) If the shows are not completely uncut and commercial free with no split-screens, the whole project is moot. You'll be seeing the same programs you can see on other networks, You-Tube, and Hulu.

2.) Few will pay for cut programs with commercials, not enough will pay to ensure longevity of the network.

3.) Are they just considering this because 50's-90's shows are cheaper to produce than current shows in a tight economy?

4.) Will each of the five genre's of shows, be offered as one set of stations for distribution? Or could buyers choose the 60's and 70's station, but not the 50's , 80's, or 90's?

Jack

Not only do you have a cool name like Jack, which is my name, but your 100% right.
If they air the shows uncut, with not a lot of commericals, no end credit crunch, etc. then I think you'll find an audience but if its like Hallmark Channel, TV Land, forget it. They will be doomed from the start.

Only way I'd pay would be if it were for shows that have never been in syndication or shows that ran a year or two. It's About Time, The Good Guys, etc. Who would pay for a channel to see shows you can watch somewhere else.

Only way I'd pay would be if it were for shows that have never been in syndication or shows that ran a year or two. It's About Time, The Good Guys, etc. Who would pay for a channel to see shows you can watch somewhere else.
The only way I'd pay for it is if it's aired unedited and had no commercials. Sort of like a Turner Classic movies for TV Classics.

Here is a reply directly from Garth himself on the comments from the Variety article. I think it's pretty impressive for him to actually take the time and respond personally.

http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/garth-ancier-lines-up-tv-vets-to-launch-four-retro-cable-nets-exclusive-1200490723/comment-page-1/#comment-40285

" Garth Ancier says:
June 2, 2013 at 9:45 pm
Hi, Garth Ancier here. Todd’s done a great piece on this venture, but much more work has been done – all of which couldn’t really fit in this article. (By the way, “Lost in Space” and “Three’s Company” are just examples – none of the studios know our various “ideal” schedules to preserve our ability to negotiate for the best shows).

Yes, Project Zeus will go back to the network length masters, air those masters in HD (upconverting and restoring color from the best possible sources). The networks will work together as a group – cross-promoting each other and airing adjacently on your cable/satellite dial. There will be serious license fees spent to get the best shows, and to make those shows available on all of your devices (via “TV Everywhere” with the MVPDs)

TVLand is a terrific channel. But, as a single channel focusing more and more on original programming, it’s becoming more difficult to rotate the schedule and repopularize series from 60+ years of fantastic television content that we have all enjoyed. The idea here is to take TVLand a step further – further curating the hundreds of series into four recognizable “buckets”, with matching produced interstitial content.

I think the digital terrestrial networks (Me-TV, Cozi, Antenna, etc.) have really proven that a large audience exists for much of this content. But as “side signals” (.2 and .3 stations riding along with an HD signal) they are constrained to Standard Definition video quality – while the public is demanding HD on every device.

Myself and my team are reading all of these comments and taking notes – we want great shows, and we want diversity. If a show is being seen on too many other channels, no matter how popular, we’ll mix up the schedules to bring “less seen” series to each channel – it will be a balance, and the audience will tell us how to manage that balance.

But most of all, we all want to make this a fun experience for the ultimate customer – our viewers!

Best,

Garth Ancier"


(Maybe Pavan can get an interview with him soon :)

^^ They say they are going to go back to the network length masters--so does that mean they are going to AIR the shows totally un-edited,and without any onscreen graphics etc.?-It would be nice if they used some plain English and said either Yes or No.-- I also don't see the need for them to be shown in high definition,these shows look very good the way they were originally filmed.

Just what Americans need: more TV channels filled with classic TV sitcoms from the 60s to the 90s. (Life is not fair!! :( )

It seems that a new company called Zeus Media Partners is rumoured to be considering a series of pay-tv stations that will provide classic sitcoms with each channel representing a different decade: 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. Only shows from that decade will be seen on that station. For example, the 70s station might include Three's Company, All In The Family or MASH, but don't expect Bewitched or Family Ties. Those will be in their own stations.

It's all speculation at this point but you can read about it here:

Cable Nets Featuring Retro TV In Works (http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/05/31/cable-nets-featuring-retro-tv-in-works/)


That would be really cool. I hope it works out!

I wonder if you'd have to buy all 4 together as a package, or if your couldget them a la carte? I'd love to have the 60's channel, and probably the 90's channel, but I never got much into sitcoms from the 70's and 80's.

Also, would it be only comedies, or would drama/action shows be somewhere in the lineup?

They need to look at an HBO style model. People who want these shows want them without edits. They ran longer and had fewer commercials. Cuts, on screen pop-ups and long commercial breaks are what we don't want. They could charge a subscription fee and supplement revenue with commercials to fit in the commercial breaks of the original shows as originally aired. That could work. TV Land is a wasteland due largely to excessive commercials and cut up episodes.

I wonder whether they plan to target dramas rather than comedies to save money.

I think they'll struggle to get carriage. Cable companies are reluctant to add new channels these days.

They need to look at an HBO style model. People who want these shows want them without edits. They ran longer and had fewer commercials. Cuts, on screen pop-ups and long commercial breaks are what we don't want. They could charge a subscription fee and supplement revenue with commercials to fit in the commercial breaks of the original shows as originally aired. That could work. TV Land is a wasteland due largely to excessive commercials and cut up episodes.
I have long wondered whether an HBO-esque channel aimed at old folks would succeed.

It could do original programming and pick up all those cop and lawyer dramas cancelled by networks for skewing too old (e.g. Harry's Law, Body of Proof, Jesse Stone TV movies, Blue Bloods after next season).

Don't you people read? According to the article, the channels are going to be offered for free to the cable systems and be advertiser supported. Hey, what they could do is go to the English system and not start everything on the hour and the half hour. Put the shows in 35 minute or 70 minute time slots. Then they could get their multiple ads in and not cut the shows.

By the way, I don't know where they get the idea that everyone "demands" high def. Maybe the under 30 crowd does but they aren't going to be watching anyway.

It will be great if they don't run the SOS but I think that's too optimistic. I would love it if they could be like the early days of TV Land and run all kinds of rarities with maybe a sprinkling of better known shows. But really, other than Batman, how many popular shows from those decades do we not already have on DVD? Who is going to watch these things when we can just throw them in the DVD player and see them any time we want? Personally, if it was up to me, I wouldn't run any show that aired more than two years with the exception of something like The Defenders or The Nurses, which haven't been seen in decades. Any of the common **** I wouldn't bother with.

Just what Americans need: more TV channels filled with classic TV sitcoms from the 60s to the 90s. (Life is not fair!! :( )

It seems that a new company called Zeus Media Partners is rumoured to be considering a series of pay-tv stations that will provide classic sitcoms with each channel representing a different decade: 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. Only shows from that decade will be seen on that station. For example, the 70s station might include Three's Company, All In The Family or MASH, but don't expect Bewitched or Family Ties. Those will be in their own stations.

It's all speculation at this point but you can read about it here:

Cable Nets Featuring Retro TV In Works (http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/05/31/cable-nets-featuring-retro-tv-in-works/)

There's 50 times as many movie channels as there are classic TV channels. And the channels that do air old TV ignore 90% of the old shows. So, yes, there is a big need. Why are you against it?

I love Classic TV, but am turned off by this for several reasons: (In addition to the following concerns)

1.) If the shows are not completely uncut and commercial free with no split-screens, the whole project is moot. You'll be seeing the same programs you can see on other networks, You-Tube, and Hulu.

2.) Few will pay for cut programs with commercials, not enough will pay to ensure longevity of the network.

3.) Are they just considering this because 50's-90's shows are cheaper to produce than current shows in a tight economy?

4.) Will each of the five genre's of shows, be offered as one set of stations for distribution? Or could buyers choose the 60's and 70's station, but not the 50's , 80's, or 90's?

Jack

There's no 50's channel. Also, what do mean produced? Nothing is being produced.

http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/garth-ancier-lines-up-tv-vets-to-launch-four-retro-cable-nets-exclusive-1200490723/

Shows like "Three's Company" and "Lost in Space" aren't on syndication anymore, so these new retro channels would chance that.
Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/tv-tattle#3V1oVhFfMemkoliZ.99

Its 2013. Both shows are out in their entirety on DVD so who cares if they air anywhere anymore. Put some other old shows on that aren't available.

There's no 50's channel. Also, what do mean produced? Nothing is being produced.

Than 60's-90's. I meant produced in the context of creating and distributing the channel and its programing. This will be classic tv shows. No new shows will be created for these networks.

Jack

Don't you people read? According to the article, the channels are going to be offered for free to the cable systems and be advertiser supported.
Cable systems are increasingly reluctant to carry even free channels. The problem is that people get used to them and they use that leverage to negotiate carriage fees down the line.

Don't you people read? According to the article, the channels are going to be offered for free to the cable systems and be advertiser supported. Hey, what they could do is go to the English system and not start everything on the hour and the half hour. Put the shows in 35 minute or 70 minute time slots. Then they could get their multiple ads in and not cut the shows.

By the way, I don't know where they get the idea that everyone "demands" high def. Maybe the under 30 crowd does but they aren't going to be watching anyway.

It will be great if they don't run the SOS but I think that's too optimistic. I would love it if they could be like the early days of TV Land and run all kinds of rarities with maybe a sprinkling of better known shows. But really, other than Batman, how many popular shows from those decades do we not already have on DVD? Who is going to watch these things when we can just throw them in the DVD player and see them any time we want? Personally, if it was up to me, I wouldn't run any show that aired more than two years with the exception of something like The Defenders or The Nurses, which haven't been seen in decades. Any of the common **** I wouldn't bother with.
Yes I read. I have read that cable systems are reluctant to take the bait because they get held up at renewal if a channel is popular and with so many channels they are increasingly reluctant to expand. The #1 things we classic TV viewers want is complete episodes with fewer commercials. Sometimes watching what is on when the TV comes on is more gratifying than going through DVDs especially those complete series spindles. I'd pay an extra few bucks a month to subscribe if it meant ads were limited to the same amount of time as the original show had when first aired. I doubt their is room for individual decade channels though. I think more of the original TV Land format is the way to go, without running only a handful of series with many episodes being shown twice in a day or 5 episodes in a row (in a 6 episode time frame). Commercials are killing classic TV because content is sacrificed for more ads. I literally can not watch TV land anymore due to ads and edits. I DVR stuff on TBS or watch the DVD.

Its 2013. Both shows are out in their entirety on DVD so who cares if they air anywhere anymore. Put some other old shows on that aren't available.
I went the DVD route for a few months. It works OK but you either burn through series too quickly by being too lazy to get up and change the disc or you have to go through several steps with different HDMI inputs and swapping out discs and remembering where you left off on a disc. Just turning on the TV would be a nice option. My issue is #1 too many commercials and #2 the cuts that requires.

Not only are cable systems reluctant to carry new channels, but this concept is attempting to sell a 4-plex...even more difficult. It's even more "pie in the sky" if they believe that (as they claim) cable systems will allocate the precious bandwidth required for this service to broadcast in HD which is offering programming that was produced in standard definition.

There is another conflict in terms here: Ancier claims he will acquire Hi-Def masters on these older shows. I think he really means that they intend to acquire transfers which have been remastered from the 35mm elements. This, however is not Hi-Def, it's just higher quality than 16mm distribution prints. The problem is that if they want anything that isn't run-of-the-mill classic fare (i.e. not been syndicated for decades, if at all), then they are going to have to put up a fair amount of cash to offset the rights holders costs to remaster these shows for them.

Finally, Ancier's claim of "upconverting to Hi-Def" scares me. I hope it doesn't turn into yet another faux wide-screen look for 4:3 material, or worse, taking sitcoms originally shot on 2" videotape and processing them to have a "film look" to appease the big-screen crowd.

^^Yet cable companies have no problem allocating their bandwith to many shopping channels which are basically just 24 hour advertisements.I won't even get into the Viacoms and so on with their terrible channels that are a waste of space.--As I touched on earlier I do agree that broadcasting classic shows in high def is a stupid idea,if they were smart they would not even go for high definition.Me-TV and Antenna have become very successful without it.

I have DIRECTV so I'm not sure when and if these channels become available I will have acces to them but if I do, here are the shows I'd love to see the most:

60's:
Batman
The Beverly Hillbillies
The Flying Nun
Green Acres
Hazel
Petticoat Junction
That Girl

70's:
Chico and the Man
Love, American Style
The Love Boat
Maude
One Day at a Time

80's:
Diff'rent Strokes
The Facts of Life
Mama's Family
Mr. Belvedere
Newhart
Perfect Strangers
Small Wonder

90's:
Baywatch
Blossom
The Drew Carey Show
Empty Nest
Evening Shade
Major Dad
Murphy Brown
Sisters
Step by Step
The Wonder Years

I have a feeling that only the well known shows (i.e. The Golden Girls, Full House, Roseanne, The Cosby Show, Cheers, Good Times, Sanford and Son) will get aired. In other words, only the shows already shown to death will get aired. I really hope this works out. It sounds like it could be fun while it lasts.

I have DIRECTV so I'm not sure when and if these channels become available I will have acces to them but if I do, here are the shows I'd love to see the most:

60's:
Batman
The Beverly Hillbillies
The Flying Nun
Green Acres
Hazel
Petticoat Junction
That Girl

70's:
Chico and the Man
Love, American Style
The Love Boat
Maude
One Day at a Time

80's:
Diff'rent Strokes
The Facts of Life
Mama's Family
Mr. Belvedere
Newhart
Perfect Strangers
Small Wonder

90's:
Baywatch
Blossom
The Drew Carey Show
Empty Nest
Evening Shade
Major Dad
Murphy Brown
Sisters
Step by Step
The Wonder Years

I have a feeling that only the well known shows (i.e. The Golden Girls, Full House, Roseanne, The Cosby Show, Cheers, Good Times, Sanford and Son) will get aired. In other words, only the shows already shown to death will get aired. I really hope this works out. It sounds like it could be fun while it lasts.


Everything on your list is a long running, common show.

Everything on your list is a long running, common show.
Yes, but, hardly ever seen on TV anymore.

With all of the alternatives popping up like online streaming, digital networks, and even the established DVD's, I don't know if I'd be launching a cable television network dedicated to something like this. I wouldn't pay extra to watch stuff I can see elsewhere. I pay for cable to watch new/newer stuff I can't see anywhere else.

A lot of people talk about DVD's but it's expensive to buy box sets of all these classic shows. I have about 15 TV DVD' sets total. I'd still like to see the classics on cable. Most of these cable networks show nothing but reality tv or endless reruns of the most recent shows so there's nothing new there either.

I hope to see more classic TV channels soon along with TV Land/Nick at Nite, Hallmark,ETC.

I have High Hopes for these new channels, but I'm afraid after a few years pass, all they will be showing is the same, STALE programming everyone else is showing. Complain and all you'll get is "These Programs generate the most amount of money, that's why we showing them". No Thanks, as I said earlier, I've been led down this not-so-primrose path one time too many.

DVDs are not that expensive If you know where to look for them. I'm always scanning the Bargain Bins at Wally's, Targhee and Best Buy, as well as Discount Stores such as Big Lots. Ditto with On-Line Stores. On Weekends I go "Garage Sailing" ever on the lookout for TV Shows and Movies I can buy for pennies on the dollar. I've been doing this for over six years, and my signature bears testimony to what the amount I used to spend on Pay-TV can obtained in its place. :D

There are hundreds of shows from each decade which have either not been seen since they aired on the networks or have only run very sparingly. I understand that in order to appeal to most viewers, they have to show the "hits", much like radio has to play the hits. But it would be nice if they devoted at least a quarter to a third of their schedules to the lesser known, shorter run series. Maybe program all of the mainstream stuff during the week and run all obscure shows on the weekends. That would be a nice compromise and would keep everyone happy.

I agree with that completely. And I would try following a well-known series with something relatively obscure, but related in a way.

For example, eps of a series like The Brian Keith Show (circa 1973) could air following Family Affair, or even Coach (Shelley Fabares), building on fans' affection for certain stars. Bridget Loves Bernie could follow Family Ties as another example.

Advertise based on star power: Juliet Mills and Richard Long starring in Nanny & The Professor; Cloris Leachman starring in Phyllis; Bob Denver starring in The Good Guys or Far Out Space Nuts; Eve Arden starring in Our Miss Brooks.

A lot of people talk about DVD's but it's expensive to buy box sets of all these classic shows. I have about 15 TV DVD' sets total. I'd still like to see the classics on cable. Most of these cable networks show nothing but reality tv or endless reruns of the most recent shows so there's nothing new there either.

Not that expensive. I only spend a few hundred a month on DVDs and I have built a large collection.

A lot of people talk about DVD's but it's expensive to buy box sets of all these classic shows. I have about 15 TV DVD' sets total. I'd still like to see the classics on cable. Most of these cable networks show nothing but reality tv or endless reruns of the most recent shows so there's nothing new there either.


I agree. It does costs a lot of money to get the shows that you want. And plus, I would think that other shows cost more than others. For ex., I'll just pick shows off the top of my head. I think an I Love Lucy DVD box set would cost more than an ALF DVD set. Or a Leave it to Beaver set would cost more than Too Close for Comfort DVD.

Not that expensive. I only spend a few hundred a month on DVDs and I have built a large collection.
The day I spend money on Dvds when the show airs for free won't be soon.
You spend a couple $100.00's a month?. That's about what I make in a month.

The day I spend money on Dvds when the show airs for free won't be soon.
You spend a couple $100.00's a month?. That's about what I make in a month.


No, I said a few hundred, not a couple of hundred. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I agree. It does costs a lot of money to get the shows that you want. And plus, I would think that other shows cost more than others. For ex., I'll just pick shows off the top of my head. I think an I Love Lucy DVD box set would cost more than an ALF DVD set. Or a Leave it to Beaver set would cost more than Too Close for Comfort DVD.
I spent a few hundred dollars getting the A-Team. I spent even more on Dallas. There are a lot of classic shows I'd like to see but I don't want to buy season sets.

it's coming soon... (2nd qrtr 2014 last that was mentioned)


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There is a reason networks like TVLand have gone away from classic programming: the revenue is just not there. A network won't be able to operate for years with only repeat programming. If it does come to fruition, I'd say it lasts a few years (at best) and then shuts down.
then how come ME TV and ANTENNA TV are doing ok?

There is a new station on Comcast called Cozi which shows old tv programs.

I was telling my brother I don't watch many tv shows from the last 10 years. I feel a little dated when I say I don't. Anyway he said why bother all the good shows were on the late 1950- to late 1970's. So in the mornings I am up at 4:30 to see shows on METV, THIS tv and occasionally at night CoZi . I do wonder how many people under 35 watch the older shows. Is it just the baby boomer generation??

I would like to see some more channels airing classic TV shows. TV Land and Nick at Nite aren't what they used to be.

There is a new station on Comcast called Cozi which shows old tv programs.
yea, but I don't watch them. They show everything in what I call "backwards widescreen". I wonder why they do that? They even show their commercials that way.
Anyway, I prefer ME-TV and ANNTENA TV.

I would like to see some more channels airing classic TV shows. TV Land and Nick at Nite aren't what they used to be.
you're just finding that out?:lol:

I was telling my brother I don't watch many tv shows from the last 10 years. I feel a little dated when I say I don't. Anyway he said why bother all the good shows were on the late 1950- to late 1970's. So in the mornings I am up at 4:30 to see shows on METV, THIS tv and occasionally at night CoZi . I do wonder how many people under 35 watch the older shows. Is it just the baby boomer generation??


People under 35 could care less. That's the problem.

Well, not everyone under 35. I like a lot of shows much older than I am.:) :cool:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuck In The '70's
A lot of people talk about DVD's but it's expensive to buy box sets of all these classic shows. I have about 15 TV DVD' sets total. I'd still like to see the classics on cable. Most of these cable networks show nothing but reality tv or endless reruns of the most recent shows so there's nothing new there either.


Not that expensive. I only spend a few hundred a month on DVDs and I have built a large collection.


I think something to remember regarding DVDs is this: It's true that many shows are now on DVD and so there is a way for people to obtain the show and watch it when they want and that is good. However, many people cannot afford to spend a few hundred a month on DVDs. (I certainly can't.) I do have some complete series on DVD, but I have a rather limited collection of shows that I really consider some of my all time favorites that I can watch over and over again- or perhaps just something that I got because I found an incredibly cheap deal or something.
There are tons of shows I'd love to have in their entirety on DVD- but I can't afford to get every single show I like on DVD. I also don't have the room for all of them either. So I do try to be conservative. And even for shows that are available on DVD, I like to see classic TV programming on the air since there is so little on today that I like. (To be clear, there are some good shows out there still- but in my opinion, they are very few and far between.) There are also a number of shows that I like and enjoy watching when I happen to catch it but I don't like them enough that I want to go and buy them on DVD. There are others that I do like a lot and enjoy watching when I catch them on TV and wouldn't mind having on DVD- but I just don't have the money to go and buy them all.
(And yes, I also keep an eye out for deals at Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, online and at yard sales, etc.- but even so, I still can't afford to get everything I might like.) So that's something to keep in mind too- everyone is in a different economic state and ultimately, bills need to be taken care of first and after I put in my tithe and then all my bills and anything else I might want to give to (i.e. charities), there's not much money left for fun things all the time. I do sort of have a budget limit for "fun" that I will generally spend from each paycheck, but once that's gone- then I have to wait until I get paid again to invest in anything else for fun.
Anyway, all of that was mainly to say that the more things that are out there for free and/or cheap at least, then I'm definitely in favor of that, when it comes to TV show viewing.
It's cool to see that someone is finally trying to do decades-based TV show channels- I had an idea about that some years ago and even mapped out for fun my list of programming that I'd like to see for each major decade of television programming- from the 1950s to today. (Well, I think I just did the '50s, '60s, '70s, '80s and maybe '90s. I don't think I could come up with an entire schedule of programming for the 2000s with the few shows I like from that decade. The same goes for this decade.)
Hopefully it will go well and I'll be able to watch it and they'll show some shows that I would like to see- and preferably ones that aren't on DVD primarily, but I don't mind seeing some that are on DVD that maybe I just don't like enough to get the DVDs (but I do like to watch regardless) or that I just can't afford to get the DVDs (but I definitely like watching.):) :cool:

I was telling my brother I don't watch many tv shows from the last 10 years. I feel a little dated when I say I don't. Anyway he said why bother all the good shows were on the late 1950- to late 1970's. So in the mornings I am up at 4:30 to see shows on METV, THIS tv and occasionally at night CoZi . I do wonder how many people under 35 watch the older shows. Is it just the baby boomer generation??

I'm 14 and I watch all old shows I watch:

The Adventures Of Ozzie And Harriet
Leave It To Beaver
Family Affair
The Brady Bunch

I even know someone else that goes to my school that likes Classic Shows to.

I would like to see some more channels airing classic TV shows. TV Land and Nick at Nite aren't what they used to be.

Agreed!

Nice to hear that some younger people enjoy the classic TV shows of yesteryear too.:) :cool:

I think it's a little bit of a stereotype that only people over a certain age like classic TV.A lot of people under 30 for example grew up watching channels like TVLand(when they were good) and other stations showing classic TV. As far as the main viewers of classic TV programs being over 35 years of age,that's probably true for the most part at least,but that's A LOT of people.

I'm 14 and I watch all old shows I watch:

The Adventures Of Ozzie And Harriet
Leave It To Beaver
Family Affair
The Brady Bunch

I even know someone else that goes to my school that likes Classic Shows to.
If I were a teenager today I'm pretty sure I'd only be watching the classics too.I don't think I would even touch most modern TV.

If I were a teenager today I'm pretty sure I'd only be watching the classics too.I don't think I would even touch most modern TV.

Yup! I was fortunate enough to get into classics when I was about 10 or 11, I steer clear of modern TV

People under 35 could care less. That's the problem.

I'm under 35 and I like the older shows from the 60's!

I hope there's a station with older cartoons like Teletoon Retro, or have Quad show those cartoons from the 60's to the 90's.

There's a market for it, It's small but It's powerful!

I'm just glad that there is a market for it. I don't watch cable, I find it to depressing and full of reality *Censored* :mad: and the rest is full of the news (which I find to depressing to watch) and TV shows I could care less about.

Well, not everyone under 35. I like a lot of shows much older than I am.:) :cool:



I think something to remember regarding DVDs is this: It's true that many shows are now on DVD and so there is a way for people to obtain the show and watch it when they want and that is good. However, many people cannot afford to spend a few hundred a month on DVDs. (I certainly can't.) I do have some complete series on DVD, but I have a rather limited collection of shows that I really consider some of my all time favorites that I can watch over and over again- or perhaps just something that I got because I found an incredibly cheap deal or something.
There are tons of shows I'd love to have in their entirety on DVD- but I can't afford to get every single show I like on DVD. I also don't have the room for all of them either. So I do try to be conservative. And even for shows that are available on DVD, I like to see classic TV programming on the air since there is so little on today that I like. (To be clear, there are some good shows out there still- but in my opinion, they are very few and far between.) There are also a number of shows that I like and enjoy watching when I happen to catch it but I don't like them enough that I want to go and buy them on DVD. There are others that I do like a lot and enjoy watching when I catch them on TV and wouldn't mind having on DVD- but I just don't have the money to go and buy them all.
(And yes, I also keep an eye out for deals at Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, online and at yard sales, etc.- but even so, I still can't afford to get everything I might like.) So that's something to keep in mind too- everyone is in a different economic state and ultimately, bills need to be taken care of first and after I put in my tithe and then all my bills and anything else I might want to give to (i.e. charities), there's not much money left for fun things all the time. I do sort of have a budget limit for "fun" that I will generally spend from each paycheck, but once that's gone- then I have to wait until I get paid again to invest in anything else for fun.
Anyway, all of that was mainly to say that the more things that are out there for free and/or cheap at least, then I'm definitely in favor of that, when it comes to TV show viewing.
It's cool to see that someone is finally trying to do decades-based TV show channels- I had an idea about that some years ago and even mapped out for fun my list of programming that I'd like to see for each major decade of television programming- from the 1950s to today. (Well, I think I just did the '50s, '60s, '70s, '80s and maybe '90s. I don't think I could come up with an entire schedule of programming for the 2000s with the few shows I like from that decade. The same goes for this decade.)
Hopefully it will go well and I'll be able to watch it and they'll show some shows that I would like to see- and preferably ones that aren't on DVD primarily, but I don't mind seeing some that are on DVD that maybe I just don't like enough to get the DVDs (but I do like to watch regardless) or that I just can't afford to get the DVDs (but I definitely like watching.):) :cool:


If you want to see great classic TV for free, check out the link at the bottom of my page. You will love it!

If you still have your list of how you would program each "Decades" channel, I would love to see it. It sounds like a nice project and a great fun challenge to take part in. I'll try it myself and see what I can come up with.

We are in need for more classic TV channels since TV Land/Nick at Nite went downhill recently for the past 5 years.

Tv land maybe fine if you want tv shows of the last 20 years. I prefer the older shows. As of now Cozi, METV, Encore in the upper cable area of stations( I forget encore I can received, but haven't made a habit of popping in there much and THIS TV. Don't know if I would want any more stations. Programs maybe.

If you want to see great classic TV for free, check out the link at the bottom of my page. You will love it!

If you still have your list of how you would program each "Decades" channel, I would love to see it. It sounds like a nice project and a great fun challenge to take part in. I'll try it myself and see what I can come up with.

Yeah, I've seen those links. Thanks so much for doing that! Very cool!:) :cool:
And when I get a chance, I'll see if I can post those schedules- I've still got them somewhere.

Tv land maybe fine if you want tv shows of the last 20 years. I prefer the older shows. As of now Cozi, METV, Encore in the upper cable area of stations( I forget encore I can received, but haven't made a habit of popping in there much and THIS TV. Don't know if I would want any more stations. Programs maybe.
TV LAND is NOT fine! The only good ones for "retro-TV" are ME TV and ANNTENA TV. (COZI would also be good if they didn't show everything with black bars on either side-I wonder why they do that.)