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irehtman
05-14-2013, 10:51 AM
If so, is any of you a fan of these three discontinued WB shows: Popular, Maybe It's Me and Do Over?

If so, then can anybody support their future rebooting and extension on their series:

Popular (2019), Maybe It's Me (2021) and Do Over (2021)?

These three shows are like this show.

Please do, thank you.

Race's Girl
03-06-2014, 11:12 AM
I love Clueless but sadly, I've never heard of the last 3 shows

MacLeaper
03-06-2014, 01:41 PM
I remember watching Clueless some here and there in the mid-90s. It's okay- I don't think it's that great really- I'm not really a fan. But it's not a bad show or anything- it's certainly better than a lot of other shows.
I don't know what the connection is with these other short-lived shows mentioned- I've heard of some of them but didn't watch any of them during their original run and I don't really care about them. Maybe they'll at least get a DVD release though.

Torgo
03-06-2014, 01:53 PM
I'm pretty clueless...oh wait, that's not what you're asking.

irehtman
03-06-2014, 03:03 PM
Popular, Maybe It's Me and Do Over were like Clueless and they got aired in WB network.

Popular was aired in 1999 and it's a one hour dramedy type. It got badly messed up by the TV critics during its second season and was wrongly abrupted in the wrong time by the TV Critics for no reason at all.

Maybe Its Me was half-hour dramedy sitcom aired in 2001, which is like Clueless, but along the way, the TV critics badly messed it up, appraised the wrong topic of that show, and discontinued it in the wrong time after one season for no reason at all.

Do Over is another half-hour dramedy sitcom, airing in 2002, the TV critics messed it up in the first half of its season and got discontinued in the wrong time by midseason for no reason at all.

They deserved to be rebooted in the future in a private network, since the movie "Picture This!" got aired successfully, which should help.

TMC
03-20-2014, 06:38 PM
http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/06/the-10-worst-tv-shows-inspired-by-movies/#./clueless?&_suid=139535453579207270739584811208

8. Clueless (ABC, UPN 1996-1999)

Clueless entered the zeitgeist of America in the ‘90s by portraying members of the tail-end of Generation X as nothing but a bunch of materialistic, self-absorbed, slackers with way too much disposable income at their fingertips. It was completely on point and incredibly entertaining. But any magic that director Amy Heckerling and Alicia Silverstone put up on the screen was gone by the time ABC launched an adaptation of Clueless on TV in 1996.

Oddly enough, this is one of the rare movie-to-TV adaptations to actually retains some members of the original cast, including sexy Stacey Dash, but it wasn’t enough to save it from being relegated to the wastelands of UPN after its first season. Lacking the original movie’s charm and vision, this show quickly became generic TV fodder that simply served to clog up the airwaves. It’s sad that a movie based off of Jane Austen’s Emma couldn’t spawn a TV show that was more watchable than Homeboys in Outer Space.

http://www.screenjunkies.com/tv/tv-lists/romancing-the-stone-is-getting-adapted-for-tv-just-like-these-9-stinkers-did/

7. Clueless

The TV adaptation of the iconic film didn’t aspire to offer the same scoio-cultural commentary of the 1995 film, nor did it aspire to even offer the same level of charm or wit. While Alicia Silverstone, Breckin Meyer, and Paul Rudd didn’t find their way back to the series, the characters of Dionne, Murray, and Amber were all played by their original actors.

The show ran out its first season in the TGIF lineup on ABC, but then got sent down to the bush leagues at UPN where it ran for another respectable two seasons before fading into the ether.

http://screencrush.com/the-10-worst-tv-shows-based-on-movies/

'Clueless'

Possibly the least offensive entry on this list, 'Clueless' still makes the cut because it's a tonally nightmarish, bubblegum-infused adaptation that fails to capture the feel of the film entirely.

Rachel Blanchard replaces Alicia Silverstone and Doug Sheehan replaces Dan Hedaya as her father. Stacey Dash, Donald Faison, Twink Caplan, Julie Brown, Wallace Shawn, and Elisa Donovan all reprise their roles from the film, and Amy Heckerling even wrote and directed a few episodes for the first season. The show ran for one season on ABC before moving to UPN for its final two seasons, which is where things became even more problematic. Shawn, Caplan, and Brown were written out of the show. The character of Tai only shows up in three episodes overall.

It disregards the plot of the film almost entirely, removing the romance between Cher and Josh before writing Josh out completely. The show devolved into a typical sitcom, spruced up with cute outfits and hip, superficial lingo. Like Rachel Blanchard's portrayal of Cher, the show only superficially resembled its predecessor.

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2014/02/can-tv-shows-based-on-movies-actually-be-good/clueless

Clueless (ABC/UPN)

Better than the original: No

There are, of course, the film-to-television moves we would rather forget. The 1995 film version of Clueless was a cultural powerhouse, a box office success that influenced the way girls spoke and dressed across the country. Think Mean Girls if even the popular girls saw it, like The Hangover for the bros' girlfriends.

The television spin-off is a classic example of a project motivated by dollar signs and not story. This sitcom's pilot is a hollow rehashing of the film's premise, complete with a cast with filled with actors from the film whose careers didn't take off. That the series lasted three seasons is a testament to the film's popularity and the power of ABC's juggernaut TGIF line-up, not the quality in the show.

Scenarios like this, where a show will succeed based on property and not quality, are an executive's dream, an example of why you likely won't see the trend of force-fed film-to-television development end any time soon.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/slideshow/entertainment-badtvshowsmovies/8/

'Clueless' (1996-1999)
“Cher” reached a new generation with Amy Heckerling’s 1995 teen phenomenon "Clueless," loosely based on the classic Jane Austen novel "Emma," but set in a spoiled high school in Beverly Hills, where nose jobs are the norm and eating is not. The new classic became a sleeper hit and, as Roger Ebert reviewed, “is aimed at teenagers, but like all good comedies, it will appeal to anyone who has a sense of humor and an ear for the ironic.” Though the movie launched the careers of Alicia Silverstone (the young actress who played Cher Horowitz) and the late Brittany Murphy (Cher’s newfound friend Tai), both declined to sign on for ABC’s television adaptation, with the lead going to unknown student Rachel Blanchard. Stacey Dash (the actress who played Dionne, Cher’s best friend “because we both know what it's like for people to be jealous of us”), Donald Faison (the "Scrubs" star who played her boyfriend Murray), Elisa Donovan (the girls’ ginger-haired arch nemesis Amber) and a few others transitioned to the tube, but the success did not. ABC canceled the series after one season, but UPN picked it up for two more seasons. Insert eye roll and accompanying “Whatever” hand signage here.

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/pictures/big-picture-small-screen-20-movie-based-tv-shows-from-worst-to-best-20140421/13-clueless-0809714

13. 'Clueless'
Ran: Three seasons, 1996-1999
Amy Heckerling's 1995 SoCal update of Jane Austen's Emma, complete with mall trips and sub-Valleyspeak, ended up becoming a surprise hit, and it actually seemed like a natural for a series. Rachel Blanchard made for a likable teen-heroine Cher, and a large number of cast members from the movie — including Stacey Dash's best friend Dionne and Donald Faison's Murray — reprised their roles from the movie. But though it captured the Cali-youth feeling of the film, the interplay started to ping-pong between canned goofiness and a goody-two-shoes tone; when the series moved from ABC to UPN after its first season, the show started to OD on snark and sassiness.
Success rate: 4

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/style-blog/wp/2014/04/25/bad-teacher-can-look-back-at-some-movie-to-tv-shows-for-inspiration-or-a-warning/

TV show: “Clueless” (ABC and UPN) Sept. 1996 – May 1999
Lifespan: 3 seasons
Movie inspiration: “Clueless” in 1995
How true is the show to the movie? A few of the actors from the movie did make the journey to the show: Stacey Dash as Dionne, Elisa Donovan as Amber, Donald Faison as Murray, and even Wallace Shawn. But many actors were replaced, and as many have noted, the only thing Movie Cher (Alicia Silverstone) and TV Cher (Rachel Blanchard) shared was blonde hair. The show did chronicle wacky hijinks at a ritzy high school, but lacked the spark of the original.
Was the show a good idea? No … just no. It was a mistake to try and capture the magic of Alicia Silverstone, Paul Rudd and the rest of the original cast on the small screen, without two of its biggest stars. ABC made a good faith effort and then canceled it after one season; UPN picked up it up for another two, but viewership dropped drastically.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/10-movies-turned-into-tv-shows-20140415?page=2

"Clueless" (1996-1999)
A TV spin-off with an atypically close relationship to its big-screen sibling, "Clueless" hit ABC screens barely a year after the release of the movie, created by Amy Heckerling herself, and produced by superproducer Scott Rudin (his last foray into TV until "The Newsroom" a decade-and-a-half later). And while the burgeoning stardom of Alicia Silverstone and Paul Rudd meant that they (and Dan Hedaya, who'd originally played Cher's father) didn't make the transition, much of the movie's cast, including Stacey Dash, Donald Faison, Elisa Donovan, Wallace Shawn and Twink Caplan, did reprise their roles. The likable Rachel Blanchard stepped in for Silverstone, and the series was sort of bright and occasionally funny, but generally felt like a dumbed-down, less satisfying cousin to the original. (To wit: the gay character Christian didn't make the transition, presumably in deference to broadcast network tastes at the time, though "Will & Grace" would prove a big hit only two years later.) The series was cancelled by ABC after only a single season, but when re-runs proved popular in the ratings, fledgling network UPN stepped in and commissioned another two seasons, though Heckerling mostly left it behind after that point. The result felt like it strayed even further from the source material, though it did last another two seasons before being cancelled due to dwindling ratings.

irehtman
03-20-2014, 06:53 PM
So you're saying that Clueless tv series is a bad teen marketing show, is that true?

If so, no wonder both Maybe It's Me and Do Over were badly messed up and discontinued in the wrong by the TV critics!

TMC
09-11-2014, 04:42 AM
So you're saying that Clueless tv series is a bad teen marketing show, is that true?

If so, no wonder both Maybe It's Me and Do Over were badly messed up and discontinued in the wrong by the TV critics!

I think part of the problem w/ the Clueless TV series is that during its first season on ABC, it aired in the TGIF block. Therefore, you can make the argument that the producers had to "hold back". What I mean is that it could've been edgier and not what perhaps, a more sophisticated variant on Saved by the Bell or Beverly Hills 90120: The Sitcom. They also made the mistake (especially when they moved over to UPN) of failing into the cliched trap of doing heavy-handed "very special episodes" like Cher's boyfriend dying in a car wreck after drunk driving (a la that episode of Growing Pains featuring Matthew Perry as Carol's boyfriend) or a teenage tutor friend being pregnant.

Another problem is that the TV series seemed kind of "small scale" (not simply because it was a TV series compared to a movie). What I mean is that some characters from the movie either were downplayed (most egregiously, Tai) or didn't make the transition at all (i.e. Christian and Travis). Dan Heyada was also sorely missed as Cher's father. Michael Lerner, who played Mel in the first season was too serious and glum and Doug Sheenan was too much of a bland nice guy.

I've also heard the argument (https://web.archive.org/web/20140405001131/http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/topic/3128204-clueless-the-tv-show/) that Rachael Blanchard was a tad bit miscast as Cher. Christine Taylor arguably, would've been a more suitable choice.

irehtman
09-16-2014, 02:58 PM
OK...

So, the movie version is way better than this TV series version.

That means they also tried to create a TV series version called "Maybe It's Me", which is like this TV series version, but end up messed-up discontinued in the wrong time by the TV critics for no reason at all. Finally afterwards, they made a "Picture This!" 2008 movie and it almost equalized the "Clueless" movie version.

Prince Michael
10-30-2014, 12:08 AM
I remember watching Clueless here and there in the mid-90s. I don't know what the connection is with these other short-lived shows mentioned

Clueless, Popular, Maybe It's Me and Do Over were all shows about teenagers, so if you liked Clueless, you might have liked those other shows . I never heard of Popular, Maybe It's Me or Do Over before, but I looked them up on Wikipedia, and if they ever come out on DVD, I'm grabbing them !

Popular was aired in 1999 and it's a one hour dramedy type. It got badly messed up by the TV critics during its second season and was wrongly abrupted in the wrong time by the TV Critics for no reason at all.

Maybe Its Me was half-hour dramedy sitcom aired in 2001, which is like Clueless, but along the way, the TV critics badly messed it up, appraised the wrong topic of that show, and discontinued it in the wrong time after one season for no reason at all.

Do Over is another half-hour dramedy sitcom, airing in 2002, the TV critics messed it up in the first half of its season and got discontinued in the wrong time by midseason for no reason at all.

Does a TV critic have that much influence ? All they can do is explain why they liked or didn't like a TV show . By the same token, how many times have we seen a good show cancelled before it really hit its stride or before it got a fair shake ?

irehtman
11-01-2014, 08:56 PM
Clueless, Popular, Maybe It's Me and Do Over were all shows about teenagers, so if you liked Clueless, you might have liked those other shows . I never heard of Popular, Maybe It's Me or Do Over before, but I looked them up on Wikipedia, and if they ever come out on DVD, I'm grabbing them !



Does a TV critic have that much influence ? All they can do is explain why they liked or didn't like a TV show . By the same token, how many times have we seen a good show cancelled before it really hit its stride or before it got a fair shake ?

They think they didn't like the show because they think those shows had creative differences in too strong way, but TV critics should have paid attention to how many fans were watching those shows. The TV critics should have cared about those number of fans back then. Now the entire WB network is officially shutdown.

TMC
04-13-2015, 01:49 AM
http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/9-actors-who-began-their-careers-on-illadvised-tv-spinoffs-of-great-films.php

9. Rachel Blanchard (who played Kitty Nygaard in the first season of the good spin-off, Fargo) also played Cher (originated by Alicia Silverstone) in the bad TV spin-off of Clueless.

http://www.pajiba.com/images/2015/14549002-thumb-500x607-117043.jpg

Schmoopie
04-13-2015, 03:19 AM
I haven't seen that show in ages, but I did like it when it was on. I think it could have made a great series had they given it more of a chance. The movie was awesome.

TMC
04-27-2015, 06:31 PM
http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/8-of-the-worst-tv-shows-of-the-1990s.html/5/

5. Clueless

The ‘90s classic movie about vapid valley girl Cher Horowitz was, briefly, turned into a TV show that stupidly did not star Alicia Silverstone in the role that she made iconic. The show was made by the movie’s writer and director, Amy Heckerling, but actress Rachel Blanchard never really had a chance trying to play a part that was so connected to Silverstone, even though she looked eerily like a Silverstone doppelgänger.

The supporting cast was mostly the same, but by the time the show came out, the actors were so old it was hard to swallow them playing high schoolers. When it was cancelled in 1999, Stacey Dash, who played Dionne, was 33 years old. The show ran for three seasons but alienated fans of the modern classic movie. Articles like this Buzzfeed piece “How The TV Version of Clueless Ruined Everything” (http://www.buzzfeed.com/leonoraepstein/how-the-tv-version-of-clueless-ruined-everything#.vtqpdWDwj) pretty much tell you how fans felt (and feel) about the television version of their beloved movie.


Read more: http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/8-of-the-worst-tv-shows-of-the-1990s.html/?a=viewall#ixzz3YYFCkyCL

irehtman
01-02-2016, 06:09 PM
Clueless, Popular, Maybe It's Me and Do Over were all shows about teenagers, so if you liked Clueless, you might have liked those other shows . I never heard of Popular, Maybe It's Me or Do Over before, but I looked them up on Wikipedia, and if they ever come out on DVD, I'm grabbing them !



Does a TV critic have that much influence ? All they can do is explain why they liked or didn't like a TV show . By the same token, how many times have we seen a good show cancelled before it really hit its stride or before it got a fair shake ?

Those are bad questions to ask, Prince Michael. Even if the TV critics don't care about the fans' opinions, the TV critics weren't careful enough to handle how much the fans' opinions that they both care or not.

TMC
03-22-2018, 05:44 PM
15 Failed TV Spinoffs Of Amazing Movies (https://screenrant.com/tv-spinoffs-amazing-movies-failed/)

15. CLUELESS

This show was based on the popular 1995 teen film Clueless, starring Alicia Silverstone. From the outside, Clueless seemed to be nothing more than just a typical teen movie but it was more of a satire of teen films. It had it’s tongue firmly in cheek thanks to a clever script. Silverstone was a particular standout from the impressive cast of actors.

The show was such an obvious attempt to cash in on the film’s unexpected success.

It went straight into production almost immediately after the movie and aired in September of 1996.

It was simply an inferior and cookie-cutter version of the movie. It lacked the wit and self awareness and it lacked Alicia Silverstone. Maybe she had the good sense to recognize when to let a good thing go.

Clueless the series surprisingly lasted 3 seasons.

TMC
01-14-2024, 06:49 PM
10 TV Shows Based On Movies That Couldn’t Live Up To The Original Film (https://screenrant.com/tv-shows-worst-movies-based-on/#clueless-1996---1999)

https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Clueless-2.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=1500&dpr=1.5

Clueless (1995) is considered a classic '90s teen romantic comedy and remains a popular part of the cultural zeitgeist to the day. Where the show fails the most is the re-cast of the main character, Cher. In the show, she's played by Rachel Blanchard, who tries her best but doesn't match the charisma and comedic timing of Alicia Silverstone. Though some of the original actors do make up the series' cast, the sub-par writing doesn't reach the heights of the film.

Part of the draw of the film is that though the teenage characters think they act like adults and have plenty of money and connections, they still have the same emotional problems as everyone else. The show reduces these conflicts to the episodic format of a sitcom, which betrays the character development of the film. Additionally, Cher's love interest, Josh, is virtually non-existent in the show and was written out in the later seasons.