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Victoria81 05-08-2013, 07:26 PM Anyone have a favorite? Annoyed with these segments? Etc.?
I always believed Nova the Cat, wasn't the same cat the owner just wanted to believed he came back :O Maybe that's just me.......
I like the episode where the pig was stopping traffic lol
scc1222 05-08-2013, 09:34 PM is that the cat found by the owner's workplace,that she lost when traveling cross country?
I'm on the fence on that one,bc I did have a cat i was giving to my gma 50 miles away,and he got lost once we got there.upon returning home,he beat me into the garage! he'd managed to ride up in the engine somehow,without getting hurt.so i think it's possible this cat may have done the same,and been hiding that way.i know it's not likely..still possible,though.
amandab1234 05-08-2013, 09:56 PM Anyone have a favorite? Annoyed with these segments? Etc.?
I always believed Nova the Cat, wasn't the same cat the owner just wanted to believed he came back :O Maybe that's just me.......
I like the episode where the pig was stopping traffic lol
I enjoyed the story about the dog who saved a man from drowning. The man was deaf/mute..i agree with u about Nova... there are a million black cats out there n even tho that woman claimed he had the same white spot as Nova, another hundred cats could've had the same white patch. Wasn't too fond of the family who had the two dogs Lady & Wolfka. .they were more concerned about Lady n didnt seem to care too much about Wolfka :(
Spark Of Spirit 05-08-2013, 10:29 PM I'm fairly certain it was Nova. Stray cats don't usually let you pick them up, pat them, or bring them into your home. Try it sometime.
Lost animals have been known to return, so it's not that crazy to think he made it all the way there.
Victoria81 05-09-2013, 07:57 AM I enjoyed the story about the dog who saved a man from drowning. The man was deaf/mute..i agree with u about Nova... there are a million black cats out there n even tho that woman claimed he had the same white spot as Nova, another hundred cats could've had the same white patch. Wasn't too fond of the family who had the two dogs Lady & Wolfka. .they were more concerned about Lady n didnt seem to care too much about Wolfka :(
UGH, me too!!! I hated when Robert Stack would say, "Especially Lady, their favorite pet" :(
1990 UM fan 05-09-2013, 02:06 PM - Boo, Oscar and Ringo, the 2 dogs and cat that saved their owner's lives or stranger's lives
- Mia and Shadow, 2 dogs that detected illnesses in their owners
- Lady and Nova, a dog and a cat that traveled long distances to come back to their owners
- The cancer-detecting dogs episode
- Harley, the dog who helped Victoria Doroshenko with her epilepsy
- Eagle, the cadaver dog
- Norman, the dog who rescued a teen girl from drowning in a river
MegtheEgg86 05-09-2013, 05:27 PM I actually thought the segment about the wild broncos in Nevada was really interesting. The explanation about the supposed shooters being connected to cattle ranching was a very plausible one, but I still don't understand at all why so many (weren't there like hundreds?) were found dead in one place. That always gave me pause--it just didn't seem like something that could've been intentional. I always wondered about the nature of that investigation and how thorough it was. I certainly don't doubt people shoot feral horses, but I just don't know if it was as epidemic as the segment made it out to be.
1990 UM fan 05-09-2013, 09:46 PM I actually thought the segment about the wild broncos in Nevada was really interesting. The explanation about the supposed shooters being connected to cattle ranching was a very plausible one, but I still don't understand at all why so many (weren't there like hundreds?) were found dead in one place. That always gave me pause--it just didn't seem like something that could've been intentional. I always wondered about the nature of that investigation and how thorough it was. I certainly don't doubt people shoot feral horses, but I just don't know if it was as epidemic as the segment made it out to be.
I have that case on VHS. I didn't understand the need to kill all those wild horses, it's their home for crying out loud.
DarkDante 05-09-2013, 10:00 PM I actually thought the segment about the wild broncos in Nevada was really interesting. The explanation about the supposed shooters being connected to cattle ranching was a very plausible one, but I still don't understand at all why so many (weren't there like hundreds?) were found dead in one place. That always gave me pause--it just didn't seem like something that could've been intentional. I always wondered about the nature of that investigation and how thorough it was. I certainly don't doubt people shoot feral horses, but I just don't know if it was as epidemic as the segment made it out to be.
Well that one is a little different as that is a true crime segment. The victims just happened to be animals. Most of the other segments involving animals border on pure stupidity in my opinion and are a blatant waste of time that could've otherwise been used to profile criminals and help locate missing persons.
In regards to the Nevada Wild Horse slayings, I'd suggest anyone interested in this segment to google some of the names brought forth in the segment. There are both articles from back when the slayings to place up until more than a decade later that are quite interesting to say the least.
wiseguy182 05-10-2013, 12:21 AM I'm a huge animal lover so I do like the animal ones. Remember Yogi the bloodhound? He turned up on Cold Case Files yesterday! Succesfully found a girl in a winter storm. Not exactly what I call "borderline stupidity"
1990 UM fan 05-10-2013, 12:25 AM I'm a huge animal lover so I do like the animal ones. Remember Yogi the bloodhound? He turned up on Cold Case Files yesterday! Succesfully found a girl in a winter storm. Not exactly what I call "borderline stupidity"
Love that bloodhound. He died in 1998 but did alot of work, including finding Alie Berellez.
WishfulDreamer 05-10-2013, 04:16 AM The animal segments weren't my favorite, but I still enjoyed most of them. I love the one with the pig because of the reenactment where the Good Samaritan looks pissed that a pig is blocking the road, incredulously follows the pig, and opens the door all the while having this look on his face like, "Am I really following a pig?" Thank goodness he did, though.
I agree about poor Wolfka. What the h? I would be pretty damn sad that my other dog was still missing.
I also loved Yogi and the dog who beat up (as in bit the crap out of) the guy who tried to rob his owner at gunpoint. I love the line when RS says the dog is covered in blood but it's not his- it's the robber's blood!
MegtheEgg86 05-10-2013, 02:02 PM In regards to the Nevada Wild Horse slayings, I'd suggest anyone interested in this segment to google some of the names brought forth in the segment. There are both articles from back when the slayings to place up until more than a decade later that are quite interesting to say the least.
I checked some of those out last night. I saw that Terri Jay has a website. THAT was interesting.
I still don't know what to think about this one. I did read a lot from Deloyd Satterthwaite, who made what I think were a number of good and valid points about why the Wild Horse and Burro Act is problematic, but that still doesn't mean the horses who were shot weren't shot by ranchers or someone connected to them.
I didn't find anything definitive stating ALL the horses for certain had been shot. Some of them were, and I believe that was just as alleged in the segment: intentional. Some of them were simply assumed to be shot, from what I gathered from the articles (there didn't exist physical evidence on the animals nor any firearm rounds in a number of them). It certainly doesn't negate the fact that some animals were definitely shot--but I do still wonder if that is indeed how they all perished.
MegtheEgg86 05-10-2013, 02:13 PM I have that case on VHS. I didn't understand the need to kill all those wild horses, it's their home for crying out loud.
I don't understand the need to kill those horses, either. I wouldn't go so far as to say the range is "theirs".
There is no such thing as a wild American horse. They're all descendants of Spanish domesticated horses. They've been let go to live in the wild, and of course have done so for hundreds of years. But calling mustangs wild is like saying a family of alley felines behind a restaurant are "wild cats". In fact, because there are so many on the range, the state of Nevada has actually implemented programs for citizens to adopt the horses. Volunteers and some prison inmates train and care for the animals before they go to private homes and ranches.
I've loved horses for literally as long as I can remember and have had them in my life off and on for just as long, but the more I read about this Wild Horse and Burro Act, the more broken it looks to me. It looks like it was developed by individuals with a pretty much zero understanding of ecology OR equine animals.
RobinW 05-11-2013, 08:38 AM This isn't an animal segment per se, but I've always thought one of the more bizarre and creepy animal mysteries was the dead dog which was shot and found next to the dead body believed to be Dan Tondevold. They never mentioned Tondevold owning a pet, so you're left wondering where that dog came from and what it has to do with anything.
rhzunam 05-11-2013, 01:45 PM Most of the other segments involving animals border on pure stupidity in my opinion and are a blatant waste of time that could've otherwise been used to profile criminals and help locate missing persons.
Unsolved Mysteries wasn't a crime show but a mystery show. The fact is crimes are mainly mysteries but the focus is on mysteries, thus if they think animals were mysterious in this occasions, it's more than valid for them to feature them.
WishfulDreamer 05-11-2013, 10:24 PM This isn't an animal segment per se, but I've always thought one of the more bizarre and creepy animal mysteries was the dead dog which was shot and found next to the dead body believed to be Dan Tondevold. They never mentioned Tondevold owning a pet, so you're left wondering where that dog came from and what it has to do with anything.
That's part of the reason I fine Pete Ballard's lookalike theory so compelling. I think it may just all boil down to that hiring a chauffeur theory.
TheCars1986 05-13-2013, 09:57 AM While I find it hard to believe the lady with the cats, the segment involving the runaway dog and the runaway black cat was one of my favorites. I always thought there was no way the lady would know for sure that the cat who "returned" to her was the same one that ran away. The dog was more believable, and his journey was pretty remarkable, IIRC. I also liked the one about the pig that saved the ladies life by running outside and getting someone to come check on her.
UnsolvedMFanatic 05-14-2013, 12:11 AM Well,being an epileptic with a service dog,the "Epilepsy Pooches" was my favorite animal segment.
My seizure alert dog is a Miniature Pinscher though,and not as gallant as the Golden Retriever. She's short,and fat,and her ears are too big for her head. All of that of course being reasons why I love her. Besides the fact she saves my life. She lets me know before I have a seizure anywhere from 2 10 12 minutes before I have one,so I can lye down. Couldn't leave the house without her.
However,since that segment first aired,we know know much more about how some dogs can sense the oncoming seizures. Some dogs can smell the chemical changed that take place in the brain right before a seizure. Some however,cannot. Why some dogs can and some dogs can't however,remains the mystery!
I loved Robert wearing his "dress down" clothes,holding the Golden Retriever puppy in that segment. :D
Oh yeah,and I also thought that very same think about Lady and Wolfka! Why so much more sad about one than the other?! Of course I currently have 8 dogs and a new litter puppies keeping me up all night,so I'm not really one to go on when it comes to being practical about pets.
The cat and CO2 was also a favorite of mine. And I really,really do love horses,they are a another obsession of mine,but the Nevada horse story never bothered me,never made me sad. I'm not sure why. I guess I felt that if they were causing problems,then ya gotta do what ya gotta do.....
Shakou 05-20-2013, 03:22 PM The ones that got to me the most were the episodes about Mabel Wood's kennel, and the sea lion slayings. They caught the people involved in the sea lion slayings, but I don't believe they ever found the person(s) responsible for the kennel attacks (PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong!).
amandab1234 05-20-2013, 04:07 PM I feel terrible.. I forgot about the sea lions segment. This one also got to me… Anytime it involves an animal getting killed or abused, I get upset. (Mostly because I am a HUGE animal lover and I prefer dogs (pets/animals) over humans.. Lol I didn’t know they actually caught the people responsible for this. Even though, I think they deserve the death penalty, I hope they were punished to the fullest extent of the law
Shakou 05-20-2013, 04:58 PM I feel terrible.. I forgot about the sea lions segment. This one also got to me… Anytime it involves an animal getting killed or abused, I get upset. (Mostly because I am a HUGE animal lover and I prefer dogs (pets/animals) over humans.. Lol I didn’t know they actually caught the people responsible for this. Even though, I think they deserve the death penalty, I hope they were punished to the fullest extent of the law
I think atleast one person confessed to the sea lion slaying. I'm a huge animal lover too, and things like that kill me. I can't watch the Mabel Woods episode without breaking down. I have two rescue dogs of my own, and have done some work in dog rescue. A lot of these dogs have already had a bad start in life, and for them to die like that..... It's just not fair.
WishfulDreamer 05-20-2013, 07:30 PM I think atleast one person confessed to the sea lion slaying. I'm a huge animal lover too, and things like that kill me. I can't watch the Mabel Woods episode without breaking down. I have two rescue dogs of my own, and have done some work in dog rescue. A lot of these dogs have already had a bad start in life, and for them to die like that..... It's just not fair.
The sea lion case happened in my home town. One sad thing about it? Never in all the time I grew up there did I hear about sea lions getting close to people again :( But the good thing is that there are still plenty of them there and you can hear them at night. :) They just don't get close to people.
Shakou 05-20-2013, 11:40 PM The sea lion case happened in my home town. One sad thing about it? Never in all the time I grew up there did I hear about sea lions getting close to people again :( But the good thing is that there are still plenty of them there and you can hear them at night. :) They just don't get close to people.
As sad as it is to say, that's probably a good thing.
justins5256 02-20-2015, 01:44 PM Just watched Nova the Cat last night. Got kind of emotional for some reason. Made me want to hug my cats.
DALLASTEXAN!! 02-21-2015, 02:52 PM I feel terrible.. I forgot about the sea lions segment. This one also got to me… Anytime it involves an animal getting killed or abused, I get upset. (Mostly because I am a HUGE animal lover and I prefer dogs (pets/animals) over humans.. Lol I didn’t know they actually caught the people responsible for this. Even though, I think they deserve the death penalty, I hope they were punished to the fullest extent of the law
I saw your post in the most tragic thread. Now I understand. I kind of felt this way before I had children. Nevertheless I still love animals. I'm ok with hunting for purpose but senseless killing like what UM showed is just plain wrong. Now in most places humans can't interact with wild marine life due to these idiots.
SPD Yellow 02-21-2015, 05:47 PM Love that bloodhound. He died in 1998 but did alot of work, including finding Alie Berellez.
Yeah, Yogi remains my favorite animal segment. Was so impressed how devoted the dog was to the case. Even after he's followed Alie's scent for several miles and is visibly exhausted and his handlers are basically saying, "Good job, we can take it from here," his handlers still had to physically force him into the car in order to get him to stop. Makes me tear up a little thinking about it.
James T 02-21-2015, 05:48 PM - Eagle, the cadaver dog
He might have had the ability but the handler woman was a fraud who was planting evidence at the scenes. Horrible egotistical woman who may have put innocent people behind bars in her quest for attention.
Sadly even though the things she was planting didn't match what they should have been finding the few dissenting voices in the force were shot down even when one officer saw her planting evidence. It wasn't until several months later when a female officer saw her doing it & wrestled with her that she was finally exposed-a search of her home found all manner of cadaver parts she had stolen.
justins5256 02-24-2015, 04:32 PM I checked some of those out last night. I saw that Terri Jay has a website. THAT was interesting.
I still don't know what to think about this one. I did read a lot from Deloyd Satterthwaite, who made what I think were a number of good and valid points about why the Wild Horse and Burro Act is problematic, but that still doesn't mean the horses who were shot weren't shot by ranchers or someone connected to them.
I didn't find anything definitive stating ALL the horses for certain had been shot. Some of them were, and I believe that was just as alleged in the segment: intentional. Some of them were simply assumed to be shot, from what I gathered from the articles (there didn't exist physical evidence on the animals nor any firearm rounds in a number of them). It certainly doesn't negate the fact that some animals were definitely shot--but I do still wonder if that is indeed how they all perished.
There was an update that aired (at least during the first season) that indicated that several men were arrested and charged with shooting the horses, but the police were asking for more information. Strangely, this update never made it to syndication (to my knowledge).
Did you ever come across anything about these arrests in your searching?
The lack fact that the DA explicitly asked for more information and the lack of a follow up led me to wonder whether the charges were dropped for some reason.
MegtheEgg86 02-24-2015, 05:07 PM There was an update that aired (at least during the first season) that indicated that several men were arrested and charged with shooting the horses, but the police were asking for more information. Strangely, this update never made it to syndication (to my knowledge).
Did you ever come across anything about these arrests in your searching?
The lack fact that the DA explicitly asked for more information and the lack of a follow up led me to wonder whether the charges were dropped for some reason.
I never did come across anything concerning the arrests other than the exact information broadcast in the UM update.
I also did find other articles detailing other bronco shootings over the years, but nothing specifically related to this case other than the aforementioned articles.
I found some very interesting information about the management of BLM's wild horse and burro adoption program over the years, too. Apparently, a number of BLM officials have been suspected of selling the horses to slaughterhouses. I found information dating back as far as 1983, but here's an article from 1995 on it:
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/17/us/inquiry-to-see-whether-officials-helped-sell-protected-horses-forslaughter.html
And here's a report from as recently as last year:
http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/blm-criticized-for-selling-horses-for-slaughter/article_8f027aa4-934c-5c95-b0a5-bc65bec5d3d1.html
I concluded a while back that the BLM is not quite the shining white knight to free-roaming horses and burros that the UM segment might have alluded that it was. In some ways, though, I think I can understand the frustration that the BLM faces. Mustangs and other free-roaming equines have no natural predators. Their herds multiply four-fold in a very short amount of time.
Personally, after having read the 1971 Act and its provisions, I think it's long overdue for a revision or repeal altogether.
Shakou 03-20-2015, 07:10 PM I can almost guarantee you it was ranchers associated with the killing of the wild broncos. I lived in Nevada up in wild horse territory for several months on a job mission, and the mentality the locals have towards the wild horses is very different from those out of area. The horses are considered pests, and an invasive species who destroy the vegetation.
Bare in mind I don't think it's fair at all. The horses are often in very remote areas, and have been there for an extremely long time, so I'm not sure what the big deal is.
wiseguy182 06-13-2015, 03:30 PM I have a story that's very similar to the Lady and Nova segment in my That's Incredible! dvd collection.
This one was even more remarkable! A young Washington state man named Doug Simpson was relocating to Pennsylvania, but was touring the southwest beforehand. His German Shepherd Nicki wandered off in Phoenix, Arizona. Doug took 2 weeks out to look for the dog in snake-infested and hot desert territory, but could never find it. He couldn't put off his move any longer and left despondent.
Some time later, his mom was on the phone at their home in Washington state and looked out the window and there was Nicki! He had traveled over 1500 miles and across several states!
Doug took him to a vet, and the dog was so thin it's ribs were visible, its coat was rough, pads to its feet and nails were worn off. It was believed Nicki had also survived a bad experience with a human(s) during its long journey as Doug said it was more protective of him than ever before.
But I think this further proves the point dogs (and other animals) have a remarkable sense of memory and location.
And just because it's so interesting, here are some of the other segments in my collection! Some of these would have made good UM segments.
-dirt poor woman on Welfare for 11 years wins New York State's biggest lottery
-police officer helps suicidal youth who just wanted a family and to get a diploma.
-man pulls train with teeth
-a 6 year old boy mesmerizes deadly animals with his eyes
-man breaks arrow being shot at him
-20 year old suffers from bad headaches and is diagnosed with brain tumor, turns out the issue is related to his unborn twin.
-7 year old boy is black belt in Tae Kwon Do.
-a family where most of the members have no fingerprints! (good thing they apparently didn't commit any crimes!)
-Super dominoes
-"Gravity Hill", a hill in an Ohio town where people can put their car in neutral and watch their car travel uphill on its own accord.
-psychic helps locate missing 2 year old boy who was lost in an Ohio cornfield.
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