What are your thoughts on Disney making another sequel to a Disney classic.



I think it kills the classicness.

Oops! Sorry. Incase you didn't know, they are making a sequel to Cinderella. :wave:

Originally posted by Max Whittaker
Oops! Sorry. Incase you didn't know, they are making a sequel to Cinderella. :wave:

They are also making one for Peter Pan or have maked.

Hmmm, it WOULD make the shows less "classic-like" but I guess, they're running out of ideas for new Disney flims, they have to make some money one way or another, lol.

Just my thoughts. ;)

:D

If you want to see what I thought of Peter Pan 2...its re-freakin-diculous!!!!!! (And it's in the post you've been waiting for how they **EXPLICTIVE DELETED** -ed it up royally!)

I saw the preview for Cinderella 2: Dreams Come True and it's coming to video Tuesday the 26th...I-AM-NOT-HAPPY!!!!!

Remember how I said I was going to write the next Disney masterpiece? Well NOW I am on a mission. I swear I am going to do this. As soon as I get in touch with my friend in California, we are collaborating again on our screenplay. I'm surprised too, my friend knows someone that can get me in to talk to animators when I'm done.

I will keep you all posted on this, my Disney movie will have songs, the Disney Kiss, and a GOOD VILLAIN...anything else I forgot that should be in a good standard Disney movie?

**moo, the even more determined after seeing Peter Pan 2**

I dont think they should re make a classic... I agree Max.. it kills the classicness.

There were only 6 people seeing Peter Pan 2 this morning, and none for the next showing when I left...I don't think they will make much money off this movie, but that's just me.

**moo...i said MOO damnit!**

They made The Little Mermaid 2. They made Peter Pan 2.
They made The Huntchback of Notre Dame 2. They made Lady & the Tramp 2. They made Cinderella 2. They have made a sequel to the Rescuers. I say enough with the sequels. Start creating new movies.

Originally posted by julian bozo
They made The Little Mermaid 2. They made Peter Pan 2.
They made The Huntchback of Notre Dame 2. They made Lady & the Tramp 2. They made Cinderella 2. They have made a sequel to the Rescuers. I say enough with the sequels. Start creating new movies.

Don't forget Lion King 2 and Beauty and the Beast's Enchanted Christmas.

I think that sequels to Disney classics are awful. You're right Max, it does take away their "classicness". It's like, Cinderella and Peter Pan are timeless and wonderful fairytales and then... bam! A sequel pops up nearly fifty years later. It just ruins everything. I've always lerbed Cinderella and Peter Pan. I especially lerbed the entire "second star to the right" element from Peter Pan. I know this sounds so extremely stupid, but when I think that life can't get any worse, I think about living in my own little Never Land where I can always be myself... where no one can judge me... where I can always be happy... where there is no pain. And how do I get there? Why, second star to the right and straight on till morning, of course! That sounds so corny, doesn't it? I know, but it honestly cheers me up and makes me smile! When life is treating me badly, I just think about that second star to the right... and then I feel like everything will be OK. Just think about it the next time you're feeling down and you'll be happy again. Trust me, it really works!

I agree. Disney sequels are always pointless. I'm not a huge Disney fan but their movies are usually watchable enough. I've never seen a good Disney sequel though. What was the deal with 'Lion King 2' for example? It was the exact same story as the first one but with different characters. If you're gonna make a sequel you should at least use the opportunity to break new ground.
And I agree with Max about remakes spoiling the original movies "classicness". That's why I'm pretty much against 'Goonies 2' and the proposed 'Lost Boys' sequel.
And if I ever hear that they are gonna remake 'Stand By Me' I will personally hunt down those responsble and makes their lives a living hell untill they see the error of their blasphemous ways!!

I agree that sequels leave a lot to be desired, but I did like Little Mermaid 2.:)

I don't like sequels very much either. They're never as good as the originals.

I have boycotted all Disney sequels up to this point, and now I remember why. It just isn't the same at ALL. The only other sequel (technically 2nd in a trilogy) I saw was Return of Jafar, and all the voices were the same with the exception of Robin Williams...plus it was made so close to the original, it wasn't too shabby. Everything else just LOOKS BAD.

I refuse to watch The Little Mermaid 2...Lion King 2 is ridiculous looking...Hunchback 2 should have never been THOUGHT of...Cinderella 2 is going to try and give Prince Charming a PERSONALITY-how wrong is that!?...Lady & The Tramp 2 looked dumb as ever...and I didn't really care for the Rescuers let alone the Rescuers Down Under...

I still think Disney needs someone like me on their team LOL...someone with vision, dammit! WHERE DID THEIR VISION GO!?!?!?!?!?!

**moo, who weeps for the present and hopes for the future**

I always lerbed the Little Mermaid. I HATED Little Mermaid 2!!!

:( nothing like the classics

Originally posted by Lisa Whelchel Forever
I always lerbed the Little Mermaid. I HATED Little Mermaid 2!!!
You children and your freakin phrases! LERB? the word is LOVE...
:rolleyes:
hooooo boy.

**moo, the often puzzled by chitlins**

Originally posted by moofomoo

You children and your freakin phrases! LERB? the word is LOVE...
:rolleyes:
hooooo boy.

LOL hey don't blame me. I didn't make it up! It was Morganne!

In general I agree about the Disney sequels being pretty bad, at least of the few that I have seen. They just don't have the same sparkle. However, I think the originals can stand on their own. The sequel to Aladdin was stupid but I still enjoy the original Aladdin just as much.

The one sequel I like as equally as the original is The Rescuers Down Under. I think it is just as cute and enjoyable.

Originally posted by Lisa Whelchel Forever


LOL hey don't blame me. I didn't make it up! It was Morganne!

LOL... that's right!

Disney, sadly enough has become only interested in one thing. Making a ton of money.
They release their classics on video for limited times, "retiring" them from release for a few years (so a new generation of kids can be introduced to them and new copies can be bought by thier parents). The new films that are released are sequals to films kids have seen over and over again at home, so they have to drag their parents to see them (mo money mo money)
I'm sure with Return To Neverland and Cinderella 2 coming out, the original fims will probably be "retired" from video soon, so you'd better rush out and buy them.
It is horrifying what Michael Eisner has done to that company.

And this concludes my daily anti-studio/network rant.

At least Pixar still makes good films.

Jeffrey Katzenberg, the "K" in "Dreamworks SKG" used to work at Disney. When Dreamworks made Shrek, they modeled Lord Farquad after Michael Eisner.

And no it's not an accident - they meant to make "Farquad" sound as close to "**** wad" as possible.

God, I love that movie.

There has been no love lost between Katzenburg and Eisner.

Read "Keys To The Kingdom"
It's not a very flattering look at Disney under Eisner

Originally posted by AKA
And no it's not an accident - they meant to make "Farquad" sound as close to "**** wad" as possible.

They did?! LOL

Originally posted by Jo's the bomb
Hmmm, it WOULD make the shows less "classic-like" but I guess, they're running out of ideas for new Disney flims, they have to make some money one way or another, lol.

Just my thoughts. ;)

:D

Poor Disney. Trust me, they don't need to make sequels to make more money. Disney is the second most profitable media company in the world, after AOL/Time Warner.

Disney owns not only itself, it's theme parks (4 of them), and over 500 Disney stores, and the endless rights and merchandising that goes along with that, but they also own:

5 movie studios: Buena Vista, Miramax, Castle Rock, Touchstone, & Hollywood Pictures

TV: Disney owns, of course, the Disney channel. They also own ABC and ESPN. They own part of Lifetime, A&E, and the History Channel.

Music: Owner of 3 record companies and every ABC radio station (which just happens to be the largest radio network in America)

Books: They own 2 book publishers, over 100 magazines, 40 weekly papers, and 7 daily newspapers.

Sports: Owner of the Anaheim Mighty Ducks hockey franchise, and part owner of the Anaheim Angels baseball franchise.

Misc: They make stage productions of their movies. They own Disney Cruise Lines, ABC online, and part of PIXAR.

Disney rakes in about 24 billion dollars a year.

*~phew!~* Anyhoo....

My opinion on the sequels is that they generally suck (with the exception of The Rescuers Down Under, which was better than the original), and they are a cheap cop-out way of making money without actually doing anything. But I think I am even more annoyed when they do complete re-makes and don't even bother to try to update the story, like the remakes of That Darn Cat and The Parent Trap.

I think the Disney remakes are horrible. They just don't have the special chemisty the way the classics have. I don't know but I never really cared that much for Disney's remakes such as The Parent Trap. That was really bad! They should have hired the Olsen Twins instead of those other set of twins. That would have made more since. Oh well . . .

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bootsy Whoosh


they are a cheap cop-out way of making money without actually doing anything.

Bingo, Bootsy.

Why bother creating something new when you can just drag something out of the vast Disney vault and slap a new label on it?

Disney may have made 24 billion dollars this year, but they have continually laid off workers at their amusement parks and have been downsizing their animation department for a couple of years.
They're making money, but not enough PROFIT.

I really hate to be so anti Disney these days. I've been to Disneyworld a bunch of times, and it's always great.

i dont think its right making a "second" to a classic!! it ruins the whole "classic-ness" of the movie if you make a sequel which will make it the original movie look bad, IMO....why dont ya just leave the original?? :( like peter pan? leave it alone!! its one of the best!

Originally posted by moofomoo

You children and your freakin phrases! LERB? the word is LOVE...
:rolleyes:
hooooo boy.

**moo, the often puzzled by chitlins**

:lol:!!

Originally posted by LucyFan
That was really bad! They should have hired the Olsen Twins instead of those other set of twins. That would have made more since.

that girl wasnt even a TWIN! She was playing two parts which made it bad as well....The Olsen twins?! Now we're talkin!! LOL :lol:

I think Disney should put their money and effort into new ideas instead of making sequels to 40 year old movies that were not meant to have sequels.

Have you noticed that Disney doesn't even show 90% of the classic movies made in the 60's and 70's, like Davy Crockett, and when they do, they show them at the late hours of the night... I grew up watching some of those old films. Now all they have are "Disney Channel Original Movies". They croud their schedule with those cheap flicks and don't have room to play any of the good ol' stuff!

I *HATE* THESE DANGED "SEQUELS"!! :mad:

ARRRGH, this just infuriates me---I have had a passion for Disney all my life, have collected for over 10 years, and even worked in a Disney store for a year and a half. And I absolutely despise these travesties.

I never recommended 'em to "guests" who came in the store, never even mentioned 'em. As a matter of fact, if I heard a guest groan or complain at a clip of one, I'd jump right in with 'em!

And if this makes y'all feel any better, I have confirmation from a veteran Disney voice actress herself: Mary Costa, the voice of Aurora, a.k.a. "Sleeping Beauty", is just as against these as we traditionalists are. She does not approve 'em, and neither do I.

Also, Walt himself said he did not want sequels to his pictures!! Hello Disney, can you people nowadays LISTEN?! :angryfire

Apparently not---and I can't believe the company is bein' run today the way it is. I can tell ya this though, this guy ain't ever gonna be seein' one of those "sequels"---just the clips alone sicken me...

Have you really met Mary Costa? My roommate and I worship her!

Anyway, I have to agree with everything that's been said. The people at Disney are being stupid at all these sequals. Who knows what they're thinking with Cinderella 2. I don't mind so much when they make a sequal to a film that has just come out (Pocahontas and Aladdin were harmless, and surprisingly The Little Mermaid 2 was very good) but when they do sequals to films that have survived 40 years without sequals, it not only makes themselves look desparate, but it cheapens our memories of the original classics. I heard they were planning on making a JUNGLE BOOK 2, and even a SNOW WHITE 2. That would have been heartbreaking.

I'm kind of indifferent to remakes. Sometimes they are a good idea. I liked THE PARENT TRAP, Lindsay Lohen did a fabulous job taking on two roles at such a young age. Granted, she's no Hayley Mills, but it was a worthwhile movie.

As to them running out of ideas, there are tons of fairy tales that have yet to be adapted. If one of them would bother to open up a copy of Grimm or H.C. Andersen, they'd find hundreds of wonderful tales that deserve to be made into children's films - a lot more than HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME ever did.

Gracie, where's your petition? How's it doing? I think you could have a few more signatures. And what story are you and your friend writing? I sincerely wish you the best of luck. :wave:

Hey Liza! I haven't met Ms. Costa yet, but I'm supposed to have lunch with her sometime this summer, hopefully next month! :clap: :clap: :clap:

I wrote her a letter here at work when I sent out some various fan mail, and I always include my name and address after my signature---and lo and behold, I come home one day to Mary Costa *actually* *on* *my* *answering* *machine!!*

:eek2:

She called me back several days later, and we had a woooonderful 20-25 minute chat, just gettin' to know each other some. She sent me a signed still from the film of Briar Rose and the forest animals as she's leanin' on a tree branch singin', and another one of herself (human form, lol). She turned 72 on April 5th and still looks wonderful!

She is the nicest, kindest, most generous spirit of southern hospitality you could ever hope to talk to---she makes "Designing Women"'s Charlene look mean! ;)

Anyway, my last day here at work (got laid off, :( ) is the 30th, and she told me to call her the first of May to work out somethin' for the summer (she's busy travellin' now). So I really *really* *REALLY* hope that I can get to meet her before I might possibly have to move!

See, she lives in TN, and I'm in KY. When she asked me what sorts of questions I had for her (like I mentioned in my letter), I was a little baffled (not too bad though), and she said, "I'll tell you what. We're not very far apart, why---why don't we meet sometime and have lunch together?"

:eek2:

:notworthy

Um, okay! :D :lol: :D

So that's it in a nutshell, and I'll be sure and fill ya in on what happens! :)

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, lol---she said that Kathryn Beaumont (Alice/Wendy---she's friends with her Ilene Woods [Cinderella]) called her up that same day and told Mary that she turned down Disney's request for her to promote "Peter Pan 2". Kathy said she didn't feel she should really have promoted it since she didn't have anything to do with it, and she asked Mary if she thought she did the right thing.

That's when Ms. Costa and I started talkin' about them "sequals"! :mad: And she even said, "If they do a 'Sleeping Beauty 2', I wouldn't have anything to do with it."

You GO Ms. Costa!! :lol:

:notworthy

She is just awesome, awesome, awesome...

TallKyGuy, that is SOOOOOO amazing! I am so envious that you're gonna meet her! SLEEPING BEAUTY is by far the best Disney film of all time - with CINDERELLA a close second. I'm in absolute awe! I'd love to meet her some day, you tell her from me that she and Irene Woods are fabulous for standing their ground and not promoting those sequals.

I've met Jodi Benson (THE LITTLE MERMAID) personally, and she was so kind. She did reprise her role in the sequal, but that film was only 10 years old, and it was very well done. Ms. Benson was at a convention, I got maybe five minutes to talk with her, not an actual meeting - ooooh, I'm so jealous! Have fun! And please tell me what happens!

I don't like the idea of Disney making sequels to such classics as Cinderella and Peter Pan. To me, the movies ended where the movies ended.

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If you like Disney movies and agree that most sequels are bad check out this messageboard/disney site.

I just noticed on IMDb, they ARE making a sequal to THE JUNGLE BOOK. Haley Joe Osment is going to be the voice of Mowgli I think, is it just me, or does this seem like every time you think they can't get any lower, they sink to an all new depth of disappointment.