In your country when TV channels show re-runs of older programs do they edit them at all? Do they still show full closing credits on TV shows? Do they have things like pop-up ads and other screen clutter during the shows? Do they do things like speed up the shows so the picture and sound is a little off? Even though these questions are specifically for people outside the US,all answers from everyone of course are appreciated.

In your country when TV channels show re-runs of older programs do they edit them at all? Do they still show full closing credits on TV shows? Do they have things like pop-up ads and other screen clutter during the the shows?Do they do things like speed up the shows so the picture and sound is a little off? Even though these questions are specifically for people outside the US,all answers from everyone of course are appreciated.

I'm an American, but I spent 6 years living and working outside the US, in Europe and Asia. I used to watch MASH dubbed into German on tv stations from Germany, and since I know every episode of that program like the back of my hand, I can say that I never noticed any scenes that had been cut out. However, some of the translation was not quite exact, some of the jokes had been "Germanized" I guess. Also, I had the experience of watching Hogan's Heroes dubbed into German. In that case, they changed the title so that it translated as "A Cage Full of Heroes", and for some reason they gave Newkirk a stutter. Since it is illegal to say "Heil Hitler" in Germany, they usually changed the greetings when the Nazis saluted each other to something like "The corn grows this high!"

Now, I can't say if they edit out parts of their own reruns or not.....

Sweden here, and nothing edited here to my knowledge. Not even old shows.

Sweden here, and nothing edited here to my knowledge. Not even old shows.

In Canada, there's no butchering of theme songs or closing credits. I doubt the episodes are totally unedited like a DVD would be, but they're not crappy versions like TBS or TV Land does now. Sitcoms are probably approximately 22minutes like the American channels used to air them until everything became all obsessed with commercials and everything.

What a difference between how television shows are presented on these countries TV channels when compared to American TV channels!! Or rather what American TV channels have become.It's obvious that,for the most part when you watch or record an older show on TV in lets say Sweden,(just being one example) you see everything you'd see if you had the DVD of that program.

In your country when TV channels show re-runs of older programs do they edit them at all? Do they still show full closing credits on TV shows? Do they have things like pop-up ads and other screen clutter during the shows? Do they do things like speed up the shows so the picture and sound is a little off? Even though these questions are specifically for people outside the US,all answers from everyone of course are appreciated.

when TV channels show re-runs of older programs do they edit them at all?

not that i know of

Do they still show full closing credits on TV shows?


yes

Do they do things like speed up the shows so the picture and sound is a little off?

no

I have watched a lot of Chinese television with my wife here in China. To me, the programming is different than in the USA. One thing is lots and lots of big stage variety shows in front of huge audiences. Musical performances are also big. Then there are historical dramas, some talk shows, soap opera like show, news and other assorted drivel.

What is annoying in the performance and talk shows is the use of sound effects. Just weird sounds of buzzers, whistles and other noise to keep the watcher attentive. I honestly hate that. Then everything here (in life and TV) is LOUD, loud talking, loud sound affects, people cheering and yelling.

There is a lot of advertisements on many of these shows while the show is on. "Crawl" type messages on the bottom and the side of the screen. Also, there are many websites here that steal programming from the USA (Chinese love The Big Bang Theory:rolleyes: ) with the crawls, advertising and crap.

I do like these websites because I can watch content. For some reason, there is this ASININE rule/law that disallows streaming of content outside the United States. Pisses me off. I wanted to watch some clips from last week's SNL just to get that dreaded 'Content cannot be streamed in your area" BS. It is not like I cannot just go to my site (not Chinese) and just watch the whole show!

It seems like shows aren't edited that much over here in Sweden. As a matter of fact, it must be really annoying over there in US, when you know that you don't get the complete episode.

It's more than annoying. The way most American TV channels edit older shows especially, makes them un-watchable in my opinion.For example a 26 minute program made in the 1960s is often edited down to about 18 minutes or so to show a ton of extra Commercials. I think if people in countries like the UK,Sweden and a number of other countries etc. saw a live broadcast/feed of a typical American TV station they would be shocked at how bad many American channels have become.

It's more than annoying. The way most American TV channels edit older shows especially, makes them un-watchable in my opinion.For example a 26 minute program made in the 1960s is often edited down to about 18 minutes or so to show a ton of extra Commercials. I think if people in countries like Sweden,the UK and a number of others countries etc. saw a live feed of a typical American TV station they would be shocked at how bad many American channels have become.
I don't always want to be bothered with getting a dvd and will just watch a show that is already on. I am amazed at how some episodes almost make no sense now with edits but the commercials are so long you forget what you are watching half the time anyway. I hear reference to things in some episodes and think "what are they talking about" obviously something was cut but referenced later and at the end you don't get the joke - because you can't.
I was watching a DVR episode of King of Queens from TBS (I think) last night and they had the end of one episode in the small box while the next episode was already starting on screen. I am kind of getting tired of 4 or 5 episodes in a row also. If a channel is showing a program you don't like you can pretty much rule that channel out for the next couple of hours.

I don't always want to be bothered with getting a dvd and will just watch a show that is already on. I am amazed at how some episodes almost make no sense now with edits but the commercials are so long you forget what you are watching half the time anyway. I hear reference to things in some episodes and think "what are they talking about" obviously something was cut but referenced later and at the end you don't get the joke - because you can't.
I was watching a DVR episode of King of Queens from TBS (I think) last night and they had the end of one episode in the small box while the next episode was already starting on screen. I am kind of getting tired of 4 or 5 episodes in a row also. If a channel is showing a program you don't like you can pretty much rule that channel out for the next couple of hours.

The way my DVD Player is set up it's right next to my seat, so all I have to to is reach over and insert/change disks. And you're darn right about the commercial breaks and the block/marathon method of programming. I've been cord-free for 6 1/2 years, and I don't miss it at all! :D

I'm curious about the amount of TV advertising allowed each half hour in countries that do not or hardly edit older TV shows. I'm referring to the commercial TV channels,not the commercial free channels like the BBC etc. Afterall limited commercial time is the clear reason they do not edit the programs... What is it about 4 or 5 minutes per half hour?

Its not really limited in Sweden, channels can show both old and newer shows, having commercial times from anything to 3-4 minutes per half hour up to 9 or so minutes for newer shows. Sadly they do show more current shows to push more commercials on the viewer.

Interesting information on TV Land's "off clock" programming for extra commercials
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/489898-With_Too_Many_Ads_TV_Land_Subtracts_Content.php

I'm curious about the amount of TV advertising allowed each half hour in countries that do not or hardly edit older TV shows. I'm referring to the commercial TV channels,not the commercial free channels like the BBC etc. Afterall limited commercial time is the clear reason they do not edit the programs... What is it about 4 or 5 minutes per half hour?
5 minutes per half hour sounds about right.

So basically commercial TV channels in Sweden as an example have about 1 Third(or even less) the amount of advertising TV channels in America have now during the programs.Since a lot of American shows (both older and newer ones) are also aired around the World, TV viewers in Sweden,the UK etc. even get to watch them in a Much better fashion than American viewers do.

Canada limits the amount of commercials to 12 minutes per hour. For those of you who partake in this board's "Trading Post" or other sources such as ioffer to get what you want, the best quality shows of this type I've received are the ones recorded off Canadian TV Stations (Their version of the "V-Chip" rating gives them away).

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Whenever I purchase an "Alternate' DVD and I see these ratings, I know I'm receiving some quality stuff. :D

Cutting epsiodes of older shows to get time for more commercials just sounds stupid for me. I guess the channels want money, but give me a break!

Canada limits the amount of commercials to 12 minutes per hour. For those of you who partake in this board's "Trading Post" or other sources such as ioffer to get what you want, the best quality shows of this type I've received are the ones recorded off Canadian TV Stations (Their version of the "V-Chip" rating gives them away).

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Whenever I purchase an "Alternate' DVD and I see these ratings, I know I'm receiving some quality stuff. :D

There's definitely no chance there's only 12 minutes of commercials per hour. For example, Rookie Blue has episodes running 40-42 minutes. There's 18 minutes of commercials at least. I'd say even the best channels have 16 minutes of commercials per hour.

There's definitely no chance there's only 12 minutes of commercials per hour. For example, Rookie Blue has episodes running 40-42 minutes. There's 18 minutes of commercials at least. I'd say even the best channels have 16 minutes of commercials per hour.
I don't know how they treat US Shows. Maybe they run a little short subject from the Government-subsidized Nation Film Board of Canada. I do know this. In 1996 CBC had the rights to the 1996 Olympic Games, which were held in Atlanta, Georga. I was living in Redford, Michigan, which lies just west od Detroit, Michigan. Across the river was Windsor, Ontario, which has a CBC station (CBET) I recorded both the NBC (WDIV - Detroit) and the CBC (CBET - Windsor) Versions and the results were like night and day. CBET had the SUPERIOR Coverage. Less commercials were but the beginning. On the NBC Version you couldn't go 30 Minutes WITHOUT seeing Hillary Clinton and Al Gore in the stands. ON the CBC Version you saw them (And the Canadian Prime Minister) ONLY ONCE (Yes, the "Big Wigs" are in the stands, now, on with the show). I read somewhere NBC wanted to issue some kind of injunction, ordering Cable Systems to "Black Out" Canadian TV Coverage of those Cable TV Systems that could pick up Canadian TV Stations, but backed off when one system, in Buffalo, NY let it be known he'd seek the help of the ACLU if they were ordered to black out CBC coverage of the games - claiming they had "Constitutional Rights" to carry these stations - (It turned out although NBC had dominated the ratings throughout most of the US during the Olympic Games EXCEPT those cities whose affiliates were located where viewers had access to Canadian TV (Washington, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Minnesota, Michigan, New York, Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine), whose affilates weren't in the top 20 because viewers watched the coverage on Canadian TV Stations because the quality was far superior than NBC's Coverage). NBC Backed off as a result of this and wrote off the losses of stations that had to compete with Canadian TV Stations.

That's really interesting and I think you're right about that. Maybe for live events or news it's like that but not really for any scripted programming, I don't think.

I think the EU(European Union) also limits commercials to a maximum of 6 minutes per half hour on their commercial TV channels.Some countries in Europe are obviously more strict and take it a step or two further.--As far as I know they also have some type of rule/regulation where commercials can be shown only every 15 minutes or so.-So you would probably never see what has become common on most American commercial TV channels,something like 5 minutes of program,4 minutes of commercials,4 minutes of program,6 minutes of commercials....... etc.

Yes... Our public service network, SVT, has no commercials at all. It now consists of a half dozen channels. SVT1 and SVT2 are the two main ones, but we also some niche channels like Barnkanalen (which mainly is for children and teenagers) and Kunskapskanalen (which mainly shows documentaries). None of these are allowed to have any commercials, as that would be forbidden by law. Okay, they may have some sponsors at sports events, but that's it. While SVT is supposed to be politically neutral, it's still controlled somewhat by the government or the parlament. It was also the first TV network to exist here in Sweden, and until 1969, we only had one channel. The second largest network is TV4, which also has a lot of daughter channels these days. They may show commercials, but not as much as other channels. But there also are some movie channels, which don't have commercials.

Do you have any channels in the US, which never has any commercials, like SVT over here in Sweden?

Yes... Our public service network, SVT, has no commercials at all. It now consists of a half dozen channels. SVT1 and SVT2 are the two main ones, but we also some niche channels like Barnkanalen (which mainly is for children and teenagers) and Kunskapskanalen (which mainly shows documentaries). None of these are allowed to have any commercials, as that would be forbidden by law. Okay, they maye have some sponsors at sports events, but that's it. While SVT is supposed to be politically neutral, it's still controlled somewhat by the government/parlament. It was also the first TV network to exist here in Sweden, and until 1969, we only had onc channel. The second largest network is TV4, which also has a lot of daughter channels these days. They may show commercials, but not as much as other channels. But there also are some movie channels, which don't have commercials.

Do you have any channels in the US, which never has any commercials, like SVT over here in Sweden?
There are a few commercial free channels but they are mostly movie channels on cable which people pay for. There are no channels in America like SVT.The SVT channels sound like Swedens version of the BBC channels.--The closest I guess would be PBS who are a commercial free public channel but nothing like the BBC channels for example.PBS is one channel and their programming is quite limited.

Yes, SVT would be our version of BBC. And I guess PBS would the closest thing, that you have in the US.

By the way I find it very interesting that Swedens niche channel for children and teenagers are not allowed to show commercials,even though Sweden also properly limits the content of commercials.

Barnkanalen is not allowed to show commercials, no, as that would be against SVT's policy. Except for sponsors at some events, the closest thing to commercials, that you'll see on SVT, would be "Anslagstavlan" ("The billboard"). It consists of public messages, and I wonder if anybody really watches anymore. I know I haven't for many years. And we also have rather strict laws about commercials targeted at children, who are 12 years old or younger. But some channels have circumvented this by broadcasting from abroad, so they don't have to follow these laws. TV3, Kanal 5 and Cartoon Network have all done this. So I've seen plenty commercials for children, but never on SVT or TV4. Barnkanalen also has competition from Nickelodeon and Disney Channel, which don't have commercials here in Sweden.

I got a little confused, at first I did not realize Barnkanalen is an SVT channel.So naturally they would not have any advertising.---As far as the commercial channels go,even though some may try to go around the rules,over all the way Sweden controls TV advertising gets an A+ from me.

It has reached the point in the US where there needs to be some limits established. I'm all in favor of allowing them the right to choose and lose viewers, but now that everybody is doing it, that is abusing the privilege and the public. Something needs to be done. Even if it is voluntary.