View Full Version : Was the Blind River rest stop killer ever caught?


JannTosh
04-22-2013, 11:45 AM
sorry if this has been discussed but I have heard conflicting things about this case so I wanted to clear it up

TracyLynnS
04-22-2013, 01:55 PM
The UM wikia page on this case says it hasn't been solved yet.

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Blind_River_Killer

I've seen it discussed a lot here, but I don't recall any information posted about a suspect being captured. Seems quite a few people think that Ronald Glenn West could be responsible, tho.

Hambone2421
04-24-2013, 02:17 PM
sorry if this has been discussed but I have heard conflicting things about this case so I wanted to clear it up

Yea, as TracyLynn said, most believe it to be Ronald Glenn West.

Steve_uk
04-24-2013, 07:07 PM
The above link wasn't working for me but this one was. How did you get to the name of the above suspect?http://www.darktube.org/watch/blind-river-murders/6

flytrapp
04-24-2013, 10:23 PM
The above link wasn't working for me but this one was. How did you get to the name of the above suspect?http://www.darktube.org/watch/blind-river-murders/6

Just google his name and you will find out a lot of information about him. Most people believe he was the person responsible for the Blind River murders. I'm not sure if the gentleman that survived ever identified him as the attacker, though. West is in jail for the rest of his life regardless, but it would be nice to have an official statement resolving the case. Someone I know was given inside information....basically stating that LE are positive it was him and are no longer working the case.

Steve_uk
04-25-2013, 04:36 PM
West does seem a good suspect given his modus operandi and his cover as an ex-policeman,though I believe he died last year and there was no forensic link to the above crime.http://murderpedia.org/male.W/w/west-ronald-glen.htm

TripleG
07-12-2019, 04:27 PM
I want to believe that West did it just to provide closure for this case, but unless he confesses, I don't think we'll ever know.

Gordon, the one surviving witness, has passed away, and as far as I can tell, never positively identified West.

But man, a lot of this really fits. Impersonating police officer? Well he used to be one, so Check. Owner the same type of guns? Check and Check. Matches the composite and description? Except for the hair, which might have been a wig, Check. (I mean he looks almost exactly like the guy in the reenactment). Was in the area at the time of the murders? Check. Owned a blue van? According to his ex-wife, Check.

I mean, it would be nice to say for sure that it is him. And since he's serving a life long sentence, even better, but I would prefer to have a final confirmation.

mothwings
07-18-2019, 09:49 PM
https://ptpimg.me/npl002.png

https://ptpimg.me/33jkc5.png

Here is what the killer's sketch looked like before it was known to be Ronald Glenn West from a 1999 article.

spiraleyes
07-20-2019, 01:18 PM
https://ptpimg.me/npl002.png

https://ptpimg.me/33jkc5.png

Here is what the killer's sketch looked like before it was known to be Ronald Glenn West from a 1999 article.

Besides for the hair—the pudgy nose, outlined jaw area and forehead composite of Doreen Moorby's killer are VERY similar to the composite of the Blind River Rest Stop killer drawn on Unsolved Mysteries. The sketch of Doreen Moorby's killer before it was known to be Ronald Glenn West could be the Blinder River Rest Stop killer in his early 20s.

Also, look at the wrinkles in the forehead! They look a lot a like to me!

GDAWG
07-20-2019, 07:34 PM
So West is serving a life sentence?

Clockwork
01-25-2023, 05:04 PM
https://ptpimg.me/npl002.png

https://ptpimg.me/33jkc5.png

Here is what the killer's sketch looked like before it was known to be Ronald Glenn West from a 1999 article.

Always interesting to hear how things worked out for some victims. Gord McAllister died in 2012, but had remarried. It seems a year later there was a bit of friction with his kids since he was getting involved with a "lady friend" as he put it. Maybe that is who he remarried? I get it, I mean, I am not sure how I'd react to my dad doing that either a year into it. But at the same time I think it would be easy to understand. I get it.

EighthStreet
01-26-2023, 09:19 AM
Can we just globally cool it with the high horse moralizing every time someone gets remarried after their spouse dies.

MediaHoarder
01-26-2023, 03:54 PM
Can we just globally cool it with the high horse moralizing every time someone gets remarried after their spouse dies.

Getting remarried without a sufficient mourning period is a red flag of bad character.

TheCars1986
01-26-2023, 04:24 PM
Getting remarried without a sufficient mourning period is a red flag of bad character.

Who do we call to make sure we've had a sufficient mourning period? You?

MediaHoarder
01-26-2023, 04:45 PM
Who do we call to make sure we've had a sufficient mourning period? You?

Genteel people don't have to call anyone. The recognize that it is supremely vulgar for someone to be courting a new spouse when the other has hardly been planted. Some authorities have various recommendations, one taken from Post reads as this

"Although the etiquette is less exacting, the standards of social observance are much the same for a man as for a woman. A widower should not be seen at any general entertainment, such as a dance, or in a box at the opera, for a year"

Clockwork
01-26-2023, 05:00 PM
Can we just globally cool it with the high horse moralizing every time someone gets remarried after their spouse dies.

I just mentioned what Gord himself mentioned in the article a year after the killings. Those were his words that his kids had a little bit of friction with it. I actually mentioned that I would be pretty understanding if my father was finding some companionship a year later. I am sure his children came around eventually.

TheCars1986
01-27-2023, 09:21 AM
Genteel people don't have to call anyone. The recognize that it is supremely vulgar for someone to be courting a new spouse when the other has hardly been planted. Some authorities have various recommendations, one taken from Post reads as this

"Although the etiquette is less exacting, the standards of social observance are much the same for a man as for a woman. A widower should not be seen at any general entertainment, such as a dance, or in a box at the opera, for a year"

So after a year they can dust off the powdered wig and go courtin' for a lady friend at the banquet of amusement?

MediaHoarder
01-27-2023, 10:22 PM
So after a year they can dust off the powdered wig and go courtin' for a lady friend at the banquet of amusement?

No, if a person is expected to not even go for public entertainment for a year, the time until they could remarry would be considerably longer.

This is not a hard cutoff like many people seem to imagine it as (and indeed that would be irrational), but rather a gradual process.

I cannot fathom what kind of a person, if they truly loved their spouse, could go out and remarry in a year. Anyone that has lost someone they loved like that knows that it takes years, if ever, to be ready for another attempt at a relationship.

Frankly, there are few things more respectable than someone who remembers their departed half until they join them no matter how many years it takes. (Victoria comes to mind)

No idea why a powdered wig is involved.

Clockwork
01-28-2023, 06:10 PM
No, if a person is expected to not even go for public entertainment for a year, the time until they could remarry would be considerably longer.

This is not a hard cutoff like many people seem to imagine it as (and indeed that would be irrational), but rather a gradual process.

I cannot fathom what kind of a person, if they truly loved their spouse, could go out and remarry in a year. Anyone that has lost someone they loved like that knows that it takes years, if ever, to be ready for another attempt at a relationship.

Frankly, there are few things more respectable than someone who remembers their departed half until they join them no matter how many years it takes. (Victoria comes to mind)

No idea why a powdered wig is involved.

My grandfather re-married to a lovely woman within a year and a half. It happens. Men do this a lot quicker than women. You don't usually see women doing it this quick. I think men get lonelier easier. But if you had a great marriage, chances are you miss that aspect of it and want it again. At least that's how I see it. Everyone is different. A year is quick, sure. But Gord McAllister just said he had a "lady friend" after a year. Nothing wrong with that I don't think. They hadn't gotten married yet. Sometimes you miss the companionship.

MediaHoarder
01-28-2023, 11:25 PM
My grandfather re-married to a lovely woman within a year and a half. It happens. Men do this a lot quicker than women. You don't usually see women doing it this quick. I think men get lonelier easier. But if you had a great marriage, chances are you miss that aspect of it and want it again. At least that's how I see it. Everyone is different. A year is quick, sure. But Gord McAllister just said he had a "lady friend" after a year. Nothing wrong with that I don't think. They hadn't gotten married yet. Sometimes you miss the companionship.

I have to say, if my grandfather had done that after my grandmother passed it would have significantly tarnished my image of him forever. Fortunately he did not.

Clockwork
01-29-2023, 06:23 PM
I have to say, if my grandfather had done that after my grandmother passed it would have significantly tarnished my image of him forever. Fortunately he did not.

In our family it didn't tarnish him. The woman he married - the one I knew as my grandmother as I didn't know my biological one - was a lovely woman. Now, it was a little tense the first year or so with my father and my aunts and such. Obviously there is some adjustment. But it didn't take long. It doesn't mean you forget your real mother. So I get it.

TheCars1986
01-30-2023, 09:11 AM
No idea why a powdered wig is involved.

I have to say, if my grandfather had done that after my grandmother passed it would have significantly tarnished my image of him forever. Fortunately he did not.

jets4life
01-30-2023, 10:29 AM
Back on topic, Ronald Glenn West was denied parole last year, as he was deemed a high risk to re-offend.

West is 75, and will likely die in prison.

Clockwork
01-30-2023, 05:37 PM
Back on topic, Ronald Glenn West was denied parole last year, as he was deemed a high risk to re-offend.

West is 75, and will likely die in prison.

Good.

Did he ever explain why he shot three people that night? And killed two? He didn't have to do any of that. It could have been just a classic robbery and that would be it.

jets4life
01-31-2023, 08:12 AM
Good.

Did he ever explain why he shot three people that night? And killed two? He didn't have to do any of that. It could have been just a classic robbery and that would be it.

West has never admitted his involvement in the Blind River killings. There is much circumstantial evidence in regards to his guilt. He lived within a 15 minute drive of the site. He had committed very similar crimes in the past. Also, if one has been through that area of Canada, it's sparsely populated, and the chances of a random stranger doing a horrible crime like this at random that is not West, is very very low.


West was convicted of several armed robberies a few years later, and when Police did a search of his home, they found rifles that were an exact match to the rifles used to murder two women in the area he worked as a Police officer in the early 70s. He became a prime suspect, and in 2001 DNA linked his semen to the crimes.

West was sentenced to life in prison, while no parole for 25 years. He has been in jail since 1995, and will likely never be freed, as he is deemed too much of a risk to the community.

JannTosh
01-31-2023, 08:44 PM
West has never admitted his involvement in the Blind River killings. There is much circumstantial evidence in regards to his guilt. He lived within a 15 minute drive of the site. He had committed very similar crimes in the past. Also, if one has been through that area of Canada, it's sparsely populated, and the chances of a random stranger doing a horrible crime like this at random that is not West, is very very low.


West was convicted of several armed robberies a few years later, and when Police did a search of his home, they found rifles that were an exact match to the rifles used to murder two women in the area he worked as a Police officer in the early 70s. He became a prime suspect, and in 2001 DNA linked his semen to the crimes.

West was sentenced to life in prison, while no parole for 25 years. He has been in jail since 1995, and will likely never be freed, as he is deemed too much of a risk to the community.



but wouldn't a picture of West be shown to Gord McCallister at some point with him able to pinpoint him as the killer?

EighthStreet
02-01-2023, 01:01 PM
Something I noticed with the Blind River segment, it looks to me like it was filmed in Michigan and not Ontario.

Clockwork
02-04-2023, 01:18 PM
but wouldn't a picture of West be shown to Gord McCallister at some point with him able to pinpoint him as the killer?

You would think. I assume it wasn't conclusive that it was him probably from Gord's own mouth.

Montanacool360
02-04-2023, 05:10 PM
While he doesn’t match the police sketches if it wasn’t West i wonder if they ever looked into serial killer Keith Jesperson as a possible person of interest in this murder but his Modus operandi doesn’t really fit this type of Murder since he normally targeted Sex Workers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Hunter_Jesperson

Killarney Rose
02-04-2023, 07:39 PM
I can’t recall Jesperson killing any men. But who knows if he happened upon the rest area and they were the only two people there…..

jets4life
08-05-2023, 11:35 AM
n/m...

Gelatinous Goo
08-05-2023, 03:07 PM
While he doesn’t match the police sketches if it wasn’t West i wonder if they ever looked into serial killer Keith Jesperson as a possible person of interest in this murder but his Modus operandi doesn’t really fit this type of Murder since he normally targeted Sex Workers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Hunter_Jesperson

OK, let's delve into this ironclad theory of yours:

He doesn't match the sketches, was known to target a completely different demographic of victim, but maybe it's YOUR suspect! Also, he was a million feet tall and operated out of another country.

My money is on the Easter Bunny. Sheesh.

StackTime
08-05-2023, 06:19 PM
Getting remarried without a sufficient mourning period is a red flag of bad character.

And your graduate degree/degrees in psychology were earned where?

MediaHoarder
08-07-2023, 11:19 AM
And your graduate degree/degrees in psychology were earned where?

Argumentum ad verecundiam among other issues. The notion that you must be specialty anointed to make a judgement here is crap. I don't need a psychology degree to determine what is bad character.

The last psychology class I was in was the one those of us getting STEM degrees used to fill a requirement and get an easy A.

jets4life
08-08-2023, 01:30 AM
Argumentum ad verecundiam among other issues. The notion that you must be specialty anointed to make a judgement here is crap. I don't need a psychology degree to determine what is bad character.

Lecturing the forum on your supposed version of morality is really off-putting. Can we please get back to the case?

SPD Yellow
09-01-2023, 11:34 PM
Frankly, there are few things more respectable than someone who remembers their departed half until they join them no matter how many years it takes. (Victoria comes to mind)


You’re aware that time has marched on, and social mores have changed somewhat since the Victorian era, aren’t you?

In any case, my biggest hope had always been that Gord McCallister was able to know some happiness in the years following the crime, so hearing that he might have had a lady friend makes me feel a little better. There’s really no such thing as closure, but knowing that he was able to know love and companionship even after undergoing such a horrific tragedy, makes me feel a little better. If they did become romantically involved, I imagine things would have been awkward between him and his kids, but they could have been worked through over the decades that followed.

Some widows or widowers are able to find love with another person after losing their spouse, while some choose to remain widows or widowers. Either way, it’s not such a bad thing if they’re able to move on a little and allow themselves to know a little happiness, rather than leading a bleak, monk-like existence where they stubbornly refuse to let themselves experience any joy.