Hello everyone, I am very excited to finally be on this board discussing with other UM fans. I would like to begin by posting some segments that seem very interesting but seem to rarely be discussed. Of course every segment on UM is unique in its own way, but some of them seem to be more than others.

Hawaiian Fishermen: This has the makings of a perfect mystery: 5 men are lost at sea and presumed dead, but one of them is found 10 years later on a deserted island thousands of miles away, with no clues as to how he got there or who buried him, and no sign of the other 4 missing men. I saw on this board that there is a theory about a Thai fisherman burying the one man, but this case seems so unique that there has to be more to it.

Dian and Hugh Harlin: This case also has an interesting twist, when a man mysteriously vanishes several years after his wife is suspiciously murdered. This is one that I thought about a lot.

Anyway, those are two that I found intriguing. Please post the segments you think are underrepresented.

I look forward to interesting discussions with everyone.

I feel the 2pac case doesn't get discussed enough


same goes for Julius Paterson, Stephen Morfeno and that urban legend of the people on that boat in the Grand Canyon...forget the names ATM

I feel the 2pac case doesn't get discussed enough

There's a reason for that. :barf:


As for Diane and Hugh Harlan,the woman fed that poor guy dog food. I'd of killed her too.
I think he probably offed her,then eventually decided to take himself out, be it out of guilt,or simply because he was odd. Or,perhaps he,ironically,was murdered himself for something unrelated and got a dose of that karma everyone seems to be blathering about all the time.:crazy:

I think the grand canyon couple was Glen and Bessie Hyde; they vanished on their honeymoon while rafting on the Colorado river in 1928. Despite various sightings over the next few decades, the case is still unsolved. I just searched this one and it looks like it was one of the first and most classic episodes. It's a shame Lifetime or Spike seems to have never showed it, especially for viewers like me who didn't start watching UM until it was on Lifetime. I know about this case from other media.

I think the grand canyon couple was Glen and Bessie Hyde; they vanished on their honeymoon while rafting on the Colorado river in 1928. Despite various sightings over the next few decades, the case is still unsolved. I just searched this one and it looks like it was one of the first and most classic episodes. It's a shame Lifetime or Spike seems to have never showed it, especially for viewers like me who didn't start watching UM until it was on Lifetime. I know about this case from other media.
the lady who killed her husband and his remains were found in some guys home??

I feel the 2pac case doesn't get discussed enough


same goes for Julius Paterson, Stephen Morfeno and that urban legend of the people on that boat in the Grand Canyon...forget the names ATM

Doreen Marfeo isn't discussed much because it's pretty clear Stephen killed her. The only mystery left is where he hid her remains. If you hadn't read, Stephen killed a girlfriend and then drove to rural CT and killed himself.

So, little doubt of guilt. No one to prosecute. Not much to discuss.

Some of the ones that deal with gays or pedophiles are not often talked about, like Wil Hendrick, Bryan Nisenfeld, Frank Montenegro, Strydyr Styarfyr, etc. Sad thing is, Wil and Bryan are dead and Frank and Strydyr have not been caught. I feel a total letdown when gays are murdered yet pedophiles are allowed to roam free.

Strydyr Styarfyr

I haven't seen this segment in YEARS (and don't know why it doesn't get discussed more often either, given how unusual the case is, and how unusual HE is). I noticed the FBI is actively pursuing him as well.

Some of the ones that deal with gays or pedophiles are not often talked about, like Wil Hendrick, Bryan Nisenfeld, Frank Montenegro, Strydyr Styarfyr, etc. Sad thing is, Wil and Bryan are dead and Frank and Strydyr have not been caught. I feel a total letdown when gays are murdered yet pedophiles are allowed to roam free.

I thought they pretty much knew who killed Wil. Wasn't there a homophobic coworker who left town just after Wil was murdered?

I thought they pretty much knew who killed Wil. Wasn't there a homophobic coworker who left town just after Wil was murdered?
There was also speculation that some guys at the party he disappeared from were responsible. I think, unfortunately, all they have is speculation at this point. That he was murdered for his sexual orientation or because of a fight at that party. :( I haven't seen this segment in years and really want to see it again. I also would really like another viewing of the Stryder Styrfyer case. Some of these most recent segments are ironically the hardest to find. They might not have the classic UM feel, but it's still RS UM, darn it!

One case I don't see discussed much is the murder of Michael Franke. A man was convicted of his murder, but many people feel he is innocent and that this was a deliberate hit against Franke for his prison work involvement and possible discovery of coverups.

I thought they pretty much knew who killed Wil. Wasn't there a homophobic coworker who left town just after Wil was murdered?

Not even sure they questioned him but whomever he is has never been arrested.

Some of my favs that don't get a lot of discussion:

-Nicqui McCown
-Andre Jones
-Mike O'Mara
-Ted Losef

Some of my favs that don't get a lot of discussion:

-Nicqui McCown
-Andre Jones
-Mike O'Mara
-Ted Losef

Some good cases there. Niqui's case was on Disappeared awhile back, good segment.

I brought a thread about her up recently, but there's seemed to be relatively little discussion about Rae Ann Mossor--which is understandable, being that the physical evidence and the Mossors' fight to get the case re-investigated were nearly the only things presented in the segment. We didn't get to learn a whole lot about Rae Ann herself, or her boyfriend.

I've only been here for five years, but here are ones that come to mind that I've never seen much discussion on:

William Claybourne Taylor
Jim Kimball
Joseph Maloney
Lesa Lee

I brought a thread about her up recently, but there's seemed to be relatively little discussion about Rae Ann Mossor--which is understandable, being that the physical evidence and the Mossors' fight to get the case re-investigated were nearly the only things presented in the segment. We didn't get to learn a whole lot about Rae Ann herself, or her boyfriend.

I've only been here for five years, but here are ones that come to mind that I've never seen much discussion on:

William Claybourne Taylor
Jim Kimball
Joseph Maloney
Lesa Lee

I recall a little while back that I was discussing his case and came across a Doe Network file that some people say resembles Jim Kimball. I think I mentioned it on his thread somewhere here. The reconstruction looks a little bit like him, but whomever studied his remains believe it's a black male and not a white male's remains.

Doreen Marfeo isn't discussed much because it's pretty clear Stephen killed her. The only mystery left is where he hid her remains. If you hadn't read, Stephen killed a girlfriend and then drove to rural CT and killed himself.

So, little doubt of guilt. No one to prosecute. Not much to discuss.

but what if she DID run away? ;)

Woody Kelly is another one, along with the similar story of Gene Flannes.

One favourite case of mine that never gets discussed much here is Patrick Kelly, the young film student who was killed after being hit by a motorcycle in Mexico.

Lots of very weird and baffling elements here, including Patrick's ATM card being used several times while he was in the hospital, Patrick showing up on convenience store surveillance footage with a companion who has never been identified, and Patrick's car being driven out of a border parking lot four days after he died before being returned there the very next day.

but what if she DID run away? ;)

Blackout, wanna buy a bridge in Brooklyn? ;)

One favourite case of mine that never gets discussed much here is Patrick Kelly, the young film student who was killed after being hit by a motorcycle in Mexico.

Lots of very weird and baffling elements here, including Patrick's ATM card being used several times while he was in the hospital, Patrick showing up on convenience store surveillance footage with a companion who has never been identified, and Patrick's car being driven out of a border parking lot four days after he died before being returned there the very next day.


Oh, good case. His mother was so memorable and passionate.

The St. Croix Voodoo murders- one of the weirdest mysteries and it kind of goes back to even classic cases. When I read stuff like the famous Lead Mask Case in Brazil or Taman Shud, I think of this case. I don't know why it doesn't get much discussion.

I also thing Moses Lall case doesn't get discussed as much as it should.

I also thing Moses Lall case doesn't get discussed as much as it should.

I agree with this one. I also think the Kristi Gunderson case does not get as much discussion as it should.

Judy Smith

Judy Smith

So true. I always thought that was a really interesting case. Why did she go to NC? What was that all about?

I'd like to add Michael Johnston and Rochelle Robinson too.

I also thing Moses Lall case doesn't get discussed as much as it should.

Was that the one about the couple abandoning all those birds? I don't remember much else about it.

Was that the one about the couple abandoning all those birds? I don't remember much else about it.

Yep. In a Moses Lall thread, I posted links to articles about the case. There's no doubt in my mind the "farm hand" (Stack says authorities want to talk to find him and talk to him towards the end of the segment) is guilty of both of their disappearances. The farm hand also went missing shortly after Moses Lall and his aunt.

Lester Garnier
Gary Grant Jr.

Yep. In a Moses Lall thread, I posted links to articles about the case. There's no doubt in my mind the "farm hand" (Stack says authorities want to talk to find him and talk to him towards the end of the segment) is guilty of both of their disappearances. The farm hand also went missing shortly after Moses Lall and his aunt.


This was on Disappeared as well, I think.

This was on Disappeared as well, I think.

Nice. I'll have to catch that episode then. The last time I saw the UM segment was probably about fifteen years ago.

Nice. I'll have to catch that episode then. The last time I saw the UM segment was probably about fifteen years ago.


Ah, just found it listed. Season 5, Episode 15 - Birds of Prey: Moses Lall.

Ah, just found it listed. Season 5, Episode 15 - Birds of Prey: Moses Lall.

Thanks!

The case of Mary Ann Perez. (The woman in I believe it was Louisiana) who went out to a bar and someone picked her up because according to him she was too drunk to drive. They found a suspect who said he had killed her, yet no body was ever found. Ever since he had confessed the family would receive weird phone calls making them believe she was still alive but just being held captive. I know her daughter who was interviewed in the segment, has since passed away. (I put up the link to her obit in the thread we have about deaths of ppl on UM)

The case of Mary Ann Perez. (The woman in I believe it was Louisiana) who went out to a bar and someone picked her up because according to him she was too drunk to drive. They found a suspect who said he had killed her, yet no body was ever found. Ever since he had confessed the family would receive weird phone calls making them believe she was still alive but just being held captive. I know her daughter who was interviewed in the segment, has since passed away. (I put up the link to her obit in the thread we have about deaths of ppl on UM)

Good one. That case gives me chills. If any of that confession is true, that's a crime of utter depravity.

I surmise that the confession is the main reason there's not a lot of discussion on it, though. I think of cases like Micki Jo West and Annie Laurie Hearin--confessions and/or convictions, but no body.

The Mary Ann Perez segment aired during the best years of Unsolved Mysteries when the show was in the top ten in ratings every week. But I don't recall ever seeing it on Lifetime. I'm sure it did air on the network but it wasnt until the forbidden site was invented that I finally got to watch it again.

The Mary Ann Perez segment aired during the best years of Unsolved Mysteries when the show was in the top ten in ratings every week. But I don't recall ever seeing it on Lifetime. I'm sure it did air on the network but it wasnt until the forbidden site was invented that I finally got to watch it again.
I'm pretty certain this case aired on Lifetime, but not as often as, say, the Cokeville episode :crazy:

I think Judy Himes only really gets discussed for the infamous phone call and her friend's adamant belief that she would have gotten help even if the abortion went wrong, but otherwise I haven't seen too much conversation about the case. I don't know anything about Biscayne Bay but it seems like chances are, she will never be found. :(

I agree with Meg about Clay Taylor. That's such a creepy case and I'm shocked it doesn't get discussed more, especially considering he's never been caught!

The one featuring that unidentified stranger who died in a church in the midwest (Iowa?). Maybe not the most dramatic case, but an interesting one that's still unsolved - and quite heartwarming, given the parishoners adopted him as their own and ensured that he had a decent burial.

I know its been solved, but the one with the guy who desperately tried to hitch a plane ride with a pilot , before leaping on the plane as it was taking off and then falling to his death - that's unsettled me since the first time I ever saw it.

The one featuring that unidentified stranger who died in a church in the midwest (Iowa?). Maybe not the most dramatic case, but an interesting one that's still unsolved - and quite heartwarming, given the parishoners adopted him as their own and ensured that he had a decent burial.



I was just thinking of this case the other night. The man was neatly attired and didn't appear to be suffering in any physical way. How did nobody know him?

Lester Garnier is my vote for the case that does not get much run.

Lester Garnier is my vote for the case that does not get much run.
I agree here. it was a unique case and rarely talked about. haven't seen it in a while either so unfortunately I got nothing.

Yep. In a Moses Lall thread, I posted links to articles about the case. There's no doubt in my mind the "farm hand" (Stack says authorities want to talk to find him and talk to him towards the end of the segment) is guilty of both of their disappearances. The farm hand also went missing shortly after Moses Lall and his aunt.

The Disappeared episode makes a pretty good case for the culprit being one of their colleagues. Moses had sold off quite a few birds and was sitting on a nice chunk of cash. Plus said worker was caught trying to sell some of Lall's birds after the disappearance.

I'm shocked that I can't seem to find anything on Monica Libao. Anyone know anything there?

Lester Garnier is my vote for the case that does not get much run.

I just read on the UM wiki that they had a Scottish Prostitute as the main suspect. She got deported after a release for prison and they didn't have enough to charge her with this.

I'm shocked that I can't seem to find anything on Monica Libao. Anyone know anything there?

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Submitted by Monica Susie Li... (not verified) on Wed, 07/20/2016 - 10:57

I Just Want to thank you all for showing Interest in my case,A lot has happened over the years and i have had many helpers,dna was done with the family that raised me and all was negative,with that result i am almost sure i was kidnapped,i always have known inside my heart, Also my dna was submitted into the national codis for the missing,as well as many ancestry sites,though i have found very distant cousins,no one seems to know or remember me,i believe with all my heart that my case will be solved ,we are very close now ,again thank you all for prayers and support ,God Bless <3

I think there was one small thread years ago about the disappearance of the catamaran Antigua, with the sailors Laurent Hernas and Yves Emmanuel. It's an even stranger case than the Freedon disappearance, where there isn't one theory that satisfactorily ties up all the loose ends.

I just read on the UM wiki that they had a Scottish Prostitute as the main suspect. She got deported after a release for prison and they didn't have enough to charge her with this.
Just my guess but when gov agencies are worried about their reputation sometimes they don't do as thorough of an investigation or they don't make it as public. Usually when an officer loses his/her life they go full throttle after the perp. Maybe this is not one of those times. Although there were different circumstances It happened this way in the Steve sandlin case too.

I just read on the UM wiki that they had a Scottish Prostitute as the main suspect. She got deported after a release for prison and they didn't have enough to charge her with this.

I never really paid much attention to the Lester Garnier case in the past, but I delved into it recently and found more information about the Scottish prostitute, Catherine Kuntz:
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Fingerprint-may-solve-mystery-of-cop-s-killing-3281170.php

They found a partial fingerprint on Garnier's car which was matched to Kuntz. Years after the Garnier murder, she was charged with soliciting the murder of her husband after he was shot in their apartment and survived. The two perpetrators implicated Kuntz, but surprisingly, her husband testified in her favour and stated he did not believe she was capable of harming her, so she was acquitted. Kuntz and her husband remained together, but later divorced.

I'm pretty convinced that Kuntz is one of the women who was seen in the parking lot near Garnier's vehicle that night, but there just isn't enough evidence to charge her.

I never really paid much attention to the Lester Garnier case in the past, but I delved into it recently and found more information about the Scottish prostitute, Catherine Kuntz:
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Fingerprint-may-solve-mystery-of-cop-s-killing-3281170.php

They found a partial fingerprint on Garnier's car which was matched to Kuntz. Years after the Garnier murder, she was charged with soliciting the murder of her husband after he was shot in their apartment and survived. The two perpetrators implicated Kuntz, but surprisingly, her husband testified in her favour and stated he did not believe she was capable of harming her, so she was acquitted. Kuntz and her husband remained together, but later divorced.

I'm pretty convinced that Kuntz is one of the women who was seen in the parking lot near Garnier's vehicle that night, but there just isn't enough evidence to charge her.

I agree. I remember reading about this earlier this year. Seems odd that they cant prosecute her with the circumstantial evidence they have. I've seen convictions based on a lot less.