As long as I have been watching this show and have seen all the episodes a zillion times, I have seen this one only a few and one of those times was last night. Debra is every bit as selfish as Ray and I feel she proves it in this episode. There was no reason for her to incinuate herself on this trip that he was there to work for - and she is not a sports fan so it was only right that he was able to go with one of the guys. But when he saw the "wives" were there doing fun things together, she throws a fit! My God, I would think that would be a nice getaway from the house and kids and spend some time with other women. She wasn't satisfied that Ray would have the evenings with her - no once they mentoned golfing, she goes nuts! I never remember Ray ever stopping her from getting away and doing what she wants seperate from him, so WTF is wrong with her?? I guess I would have jumped at the chance to have that nice getaway, especially since she mentioned it was only 15 degrees in New York! What a nagging pain in the ass! She makes the rest of us normal women look bad.:mad:

I think this was the episode for me that the straw broke the camels back and I truly hated that woman Debra!!! I seriously wanted to jump through the TV and smack her across the face. And I'm not usually a violent person!!!

pretty sure i remember this one


and yes Debra is a jerk

Only one thing comes to my mind whenever I see this episode: If I had been Raymond's buddy, I would've packed up my things, went back to Long Island, and looked for myself a new best friend.

God bless you always!!!

Holly