Hello -

does anyone know if there are edits on the DVDs?

I'm up to Season 7 and noticed that "Mike The Pacifist" is only 22 Minutes long - is this edited and if so at what point is it edited?

I haven't heard of edits for All In The Family. Is this the only episode you noticed ran short?

Hello -

does anyone know if there are edits on the DVDs?

I'm up to Season 7 and noticed that "Mike The Pacifist" is only 22 Minutes long - is this edited and if so at what point is it edited?


If it's 22 mins long then it's definitely edited which sucks for fans

I just checked the episode "Mike, the Pacifist" and my player gives me the runtime of 23:52. I'm not sure if that's edited or not, could go either way.

I just checked the episode "Mike, the Pacifist" and my player gives me the runtime of 23:52. I'm not sure if that's edited or not, could go either way.


Any episode that wad produced in the 70's wad 25 mins and longer. Which means "Mike the Pacifist" is edited

No, it isn't. It probably just ran short

All sitcoms in the 70's were 25 mins long, the ep is edited

Sigh. Not all shows were 25 minutes or longer. Some scripts were shorter and thus were around 23 or 24 minutes. This episode is NOT edited. Syndicated episodes are 22 minutes and this is almost 24. It's definitely not edited. Just ran short is all.

Sigh. Not all shows were 25 minutes or longer. Some scripts were shorter and thus were around 23 or 24 minutes. This episode is NOT edited. Syndicated episodes are 22 minutes and this is almost 24. It's definitely not edited. Just ran short is all.


It can only be confirmed with a CBS version of this episode

Not even DVD

And do you have one? Even sitcomsonline said it looks unedited and syndicated episodes are roughly 22:30 and this is 23:52. I think it's safe to say that it is unedited. Good day sir or ma'am.

I just checked the episode "Mike, the Pacifist" and my player gives me the runtime of 23:52. I'm not sure if that's edited or not, could go either way.

I'll have to watch this episode on the DVD and see if I notice anything where something might be cut. While it's possible some episodes simply run short, I do suspect that some of the All In The Family DVD episodes are edited versions. I don't believe that the series was released on DVD fully uncut. There likely are little snippets missing here and there, generally not really noticeable unless you're watching real close, or an expert on all the episodes and would know for sure if something was cut.

They are all uncut episodes.

They are all uncut episodes.

Do you know this one hundred percent for sure? Are you an expert on all the episodes?

Do you know this one hundred percent for sure? Are you an expert on all the episodes?


That's a troll and don't take the person seriously. I'm about to report the person to the administrator

Do you know this one hundred percent for sure? Are you an expert on all the episodes?


That poster is a stupid troll at that. It took me 15 years to find out the first ep of the Jeffersons was edited on DVD which I always assumed was uncut

Svenfan1234 isn't a troll.

I'm not a troll just saying politely that you shouldn't be so quick to judge about these things. And it's not even a huge issue to me. I trust that they are uncut, but if you don't, that's your business. I don't care anymore.

That poster is a stupid troll at that. It took me 15 years to find out the first ep of the Jeffersons was edited on DVD which I always assumed was uncut

I am not a troll. Just believe what you want to believe I guess. Even though Shout! Factory who released AITF always makes sure that they are uncut.

Svenfan1234 isn't a troll.

Anyone who says all eps are uncut without proof is called trolling

I am not a troll. Just believe what you want to believe I guess. Even though Shout! Factory who released AITF always makes sure that they are uncut.


Well say it;s your opinion and stop stating things as fact without evidence because it comes off as trolling

Fine. It was my opinion, and I am not a freaking troll. Ok?

Why does it matter to you anyways? You are just getting worked up over something that really doesn't matter. In my opinion. And in my opinion, the troll would be the one to call out the troll. Goodbye on this thread. I will no longer post on it if it really makes everyone so pissed.

And there is proof: it's called Sitcomsonline's reviews. This will be my last post on this thread.

Fine. It was my opinion, and I am not a freaking troll. Ok?


My point was you can't just make a statement like "all eps are uncut" without proof because there are eps on DVD that are indeed edited. Three's company, Jeffersons, and Different strokes so that was my point.

And I know 23:42 for a sitcom in the 70's is very low and a good chance it's edited. So all we can do is speculate not say for sure whether or not it's edited or not unless we have proof


But when u started saying ALL EPS ARE UNCUT it came off as trollish

And there is proof: it's called Sitcomsonline's reviews. This will be my last post on this thread.


If you are referring to Pavan and the other DVD reviewers all they are doing is speculating they don't know for sure. Plus they were proven wrong about Three's Company being unedited

You aren't any better you know. YOU say they are edited without solid proof.

And stop acting like such a butthole. I was wrong, okay? Just forget it

You aren't any better you know. YOU say they are edited without solid proof.


I say they appear to be edited but don't know for sure

And stop acting like such a butthole. I was wrong, okay? Just forget it

I;m not acting like a butthole, I was just pointing out when it comes to DVD discussion about editing we can't state things as fact

I actually like talking classic tv on DVD with you keeps the board active

Ok sorry I was really angry and I just don't like when people prove me wrong about things. But I am not a troll

I say they appear to be edited but don't know for sure

I think it's safe to say that some episodes on the DVD's are edited. The inconsistent run times of the episodes make me highly skeptical. Edits suck, I hate them as much as the next person, but there's nothing we can do about it, except be glad the series is complete on DVD. It might not be fully uncut, but it's complete. :lol:

I think it's safe to say that some episodes on the DVD's are edited. The inconsistent run times of the episodes make me highly skeptical. Edits suck, I hate them as much as the next person, but there's nothing we can do about it, except be glad the series is complete on DVD. It might not be fully uncut, but it's complete. :lol:


I still won't buy Three's Company because it still bothers me that one tag scene is missing lol Now shows that are not known for tag scenes I still may buy because I am just happy they are on DVD whether they are edited or not like Married with Children and CPO SHarkey

Shout said to me once that none of the episodes were edited. A rep on one of the boards here said that depending on how long the script was, an episode could very well run short. They said that for AITF. Some episodes just ran shorter, and in the case of 2 parters, One episode would typically be shorter than the other.

One person who was terrified that on one of Shout!'s That Girl sets were edited because a few episodes ran 23 or so minutes and they said it just ran short. It's the same case here. I'm not a troll because I know this for a fact. They wouldn't randomly edit an episode for no apparent reason on a DVD.

Shout said to me once that none of the episodes were edited. A rep on one of the boards here said that depending on how long the script was, an episode could very well run short. They said that for AITF. Some episodes just ran shorter, and in the case of 2 parters, One episode would typically be shorter than the other.


There is one ep edited on the shout DVD for the Jeffersons but it wasn't a big deal because it was only one out of 255.

One person who was terrified that on one of Shout!'s That Girl sets were edited because a few episodes ran 23 or so minutes and they said it just ran short. It's the same case here. I'm not a troll because I know this for a fact. They wouldn't randomly edit an episode for no apparent reason on a DVD.


I will say that Shout has introduced me to some unseen footage for the Jeffersons. I would be looking to see how they do with the other shows

Don't say it's edited without proof. Take Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman for example. Would you panic if one of the episodes were 21 minutes? No. Because the norm would be 22 minutes, and usually (usually) if it's a little shorter it just means it ran shorter

Don't say it's edited without proof. Take Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman for example. Would you panic if one of the episodes were 21 minutes? No. Because the norm would be 22 minutes, and usually (usually) if it's a little shorter it just means it ran shorter


The proof was reading a 1975 article about the first episode of the Jeffersons and how Louise uttered the N-word but on the DVD the only people you hear say the N-word during the episode was George and Helen

Whatever

The proof was reading a 1975 article about the first episode of the Jeffersons and how Louise uttered the N-word but on the DVD the only people you hear say the N-word during the episode was George and Helen

Just like you can't believe everything you read today, don't believe everything printed back then.

Is this the missing scene, or is it a different one?
http://youtu.be/AWbnGviamC8

Just like you can't believe everything you read today, don't believe everything printed back then.

Is this the missing scene, or is it a different one?
http://youtu.be/AWbnGviamC8


WHat are you talking about? It was a from a critic who watched the episode before it aired on CBS in 1975

Just like you can't believe everything you read today, don't believe everything printed back then.

Is this the missing scene, or is it a different one?
http://youtu.be/AWbnGviamC8


No that scene is from the 4th or 5th episode. She said it in very first episdoe "A friend in need"

No that scene is from the 4th or 5th episode."

$350 for a watch, I'm agreeing with Weezie.

If it isn't on Shout's DVD, there is no such scene. They make every effort to include unedited episodes so that scene probably doesn't exist.

$350 for a watch, I'm agreeing with Weezie.

The critic mentioned that she said the N-word with such elegance in the very first episode

Don't say it's edited without proof. Take Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman for example. Would you panic if one of the episodes were 21 minutes? No. Because the norm would be 22 minutes, and usually (usually) if it's a little shorter it just means it ran shorter

Two episodes on the Mary Hartman complete series DVD set are edited. Episodes 174 and 204. Scenes were cut because music rights couldn't be cleared. I believe it was a couple Johnny Cash songs they couldn't clear the rights to, so they cut the scenes.

If it isn't on Shout's DVD, there is no such scene. They make every effort to include unedited episodes so that scene probably doesn't exist.


Well the critic said that Louise said the N-word with elegance so he must have watched her say it. Do you think they would print a false description of the first episode in the newspaper?

Well the critic said that Louise said the N-word with elegance so he must have watched her say it. Do you think they would print a false description of the first episode in the newspaper?

I've seen it happen. A critic can watch a preview copy, while a network can make a late change/cut. If I can find a specific example online I'll link it.

^ I'll proudly ditto this!

I've seen it happen. A critic can watch a preview copy, while a network can make a late change/cut. If I can find a specific example online I'll link it.

The critic was counting the number of times you heard honky and n*gger in the first episode and his final count was

3 N*gger's

2 Honky's


Louise.......N-word
George......N-word
Helen........N-word


Helen.......Honky
Helen.......Honky

I've seen it happen. A critic can watch a preview copy, while a network can make a late change/cut. If I can find a specific example online I'll link it.


And why would they cut Louise scene out saying the N-word when it was said by two other characters in the same episode?

Maybe the reviewer was sent the copy before it aired and they made a change so there was another scene instead. Did it run over 25 minutes? If so, nothing was cut

Two episodes on the Mary Hartman complete series DVD set are edited. Episodes 174 and 204. Scenes were cut because music rights couldn't be cleared. I believe it was a couple Johnny Cash songs they couldn't clear the rights to, so they cut the scenes.

I know that. It's just weird that you people are panicking because an episode is just a little shorter than 25 minutes.

And why would they cut Louise scene out saying the N-word when it was said by two other characters in the same episode?

Maybe they got scared and decided 3 was too much, and Louise's was the one to take out? It was over 40 years ago. I'm afraid I can't answer your question.

Maybe the reviewer was sent the copy before it aired and they made a change so there was another scene instead. Did it run over 25 minutes? If so, nothing was cut




Ok just checked and its 26:05 long

Maybe they got scared and decided 3 was too much, and Louise's was the one to take out? It was over 40 years ago. I'm afraid I can't answer your question.


But if she said it with elegance wonder why they would cut it out:lol:

Doesn't sound like anything is missing to me

Shout said to me once that none of the episodes were edited. A rep on one of the boards here said that depending on how long the script was, an episode could very well run short. They said that for AITF. Some episodes just ran shorter, and in the case of 2 parters, One episode would typically be shorter than the other.

I wouldn't believe everything Shout Factory says. They are in business to sell DVD sets, they aren't going to admit if any episodes are edited, whether it's All In The Family, That Girl, whatever the show. If they do admit it, they'll usually use the music rights excuse and say the scene had to be cut. I know sometimes episodes can run short, but that's a fairly rare occurrence, TV show episodes for the most part are usually consistent with the run times, especially older shows from the 50's, 60's, and 70's.

26:05 sounds unedited to me

Doesn't sound like anything is missing to me


That's how I felt too until I read that 1975 article:lol:

I wouldn't believe everything Shout Factory says. They are in business to sell DVD sets, they aren't going to admit if any episodes are edited, whether it's All In The Family, That Girl, whatever the show. If they do admit it, they'll usually use the music rights excuse and say the scene had to be cut. I know sometimes episodes can run short, but that's a fairly rare occurrence, TV show episodes for the most part are usually consistent with the run times, especially older shows from the 50's, 60's, and 70's.

Not all shows. While I admit shows would run at the normal pace, some wouldn't, and Shout doesn't have a tendency to lie about things. Just move on and accept it.

That's how I felt too until I read that 1975 article:lol:

26:05 is pretty firm proof that nothing is edited out

But if she said it with elegance wonder why they would cut it out:lol:

Remember, I'm just hypothesising. Maybe it did air. I don't know.

Remember, I'm just hypothesising. Maybe it did air. I don't know.

I know, wish someone could send me that CBS ep for christmas:lol:

Yeah, we don't know. Neither do you. Stop making such a big spectacle out of it

I think it's safe to say that some episodes on the DVD's are edited. The inconsistent run times of the episodes make me highly skeptical. Edits suck, I hate them as much as the next person, but there's nothing we can do about it, except be glad the series is complete on DVD. It might not be fully uncut, but it's complete. :lol:

It IS uncut because they are all around the 25 or 26 minute mark

It IS uncut because they are all around the 25 or 26 minute mark

What show are you talking about? All In The Family? All the episodes are not 25 to 26 minutes.

Mike, The Pacifist- 23:52, possibly edited.
Archie And The Super Bowl- 24:13, also possibly edited.

Those are just two examples. There are several episodes that run under 25 minutes on the DVD's, mostly episodes from the later seasons. Want me to name a few more? :lol:

Those ARE unedited. They just ran short.

I still won't buy Three's Company because it still bothers me that one tag scene is missing lol

You must be referring to the missing tag scene from Ralph's Rival. :lol:

Edited episodes are 22 minutes. Anything longer is unedited

Maybe the person was mistaken about which episode he saw. Maybe he thought he saw the pilot but maybe it was a different episode where Louise used the n-word.

Not all shows. While I admit shows would run at the normal pace, some wouldn't, and Shout doesn't have a tendency to lie about things. Just move on and accept it.

I have accepted it, there is no other choice anyway. Having a favorite TV show on DVD, even with some episodes edited, is better than nothing at all.

I own the complete series set, so I can check if anything looks edited. I also intend on getting the "Jeffersons" box set soon as well.

Those ARE unedited. They just ran short.

Possibly you are right, but I'm not convinced. Run times of 23:52 and 24:13 sound to me like candidates for edited episodes. :lol:

If they are over 22 minutes, I am not too worried because as I said, they probably ran short

Edited episodes are 22 minutes. Anything longer is unedited

That's not always the case. Several episodes on the Gomer Pyle DVD's run in the 23-24 minute range. One episode runs under 23 minutes. These episodes are edited. This is because CBS edited out music segments in the episodes. Uncut episodes of Gomer Pyle run about 25:30 or so. All In The Family episodes in the 23-24 minute range could be edited as well.

All In The Family seasons 7, 8, and 9, most episodes run about 24:50 or so, give or take a few seconds. Anything noticeably less than that I suspect could be edited.

Yeah, because of the music. AITF didn't have a lot of music so it shouldn't be edited

And it ISN'T edited. Shout will tell you themselves it isn't.

Yeah, because of the music. AITF didn't have a lot of music so it shouldn't be edited

Just because All In The Family doesn't have a lot of music doesn't mean some episodes aren't edited. For example, scenes in some episodes could have been edited due to objectionable material or dialogue. With a controversial show like All In The Family, this wouldn't surprise me. DVD studios find all kinds of reasons to edit episodes, it isn't just music.

You must be referring to the missing tag scene from Ralph's Rival. :lol:


Yes, that's it. I think the tag from Mighty Mouth was cut out too

And it ISN'T edited. Shout will tell you themselves it isn't.

And I wouldn't believe them. :lol: The only way I would believe is to see the original episode master and compare to what's on the DVD.

Maybe the person was mistaken about which episode he saw. Maybe he thought he saw the pilot but maybe it was a different episode where Louise used the n-word.


He was talking about the first episode because he described the whole episode which was accurate. The only difference was Louise saying the N'word

Yes, that's it. I think the tag from Mighty Mouth was cut out too

The tag is missing from Mighty Mouth also? I didn't know that, I'll have to check the DVD.

Just because All In The Family doesn't have a lot of music doesn't mean some episodes aren't edited. For example, scenes in some episodes could have been edited due to objectionable material or dialogue. With a controversial show like All In The Family, this wouldn't surprise me. DVD studios find all kinds of reasons to edit episodes, it isn't just music.

That wouldn't be a good enough reason. Usually the only reason Shout will edit is A) They couldn't get the original episode like with FKB or Mister Ed or B) Clearance inability

The tag is missing from Mighty Mouth also? I didn't know that, I'll have to check the DVD.


Yeah I remember starting a thread about it on the three's company board

I also recall maybe two or three episodes of Sanford and Son were edited on the DVD but I don't remember which ones. It was back in 2012 when I watched it.

That wouldn't be a good enough reason. Usually the only reason Shout will edit is A) They couldn't get the original episode like with FKB or Mister Ed or B) Clearance inability

Perhaps you're right, I'm not saying you're wrong. I just get skeptical whenever I see unusually short episode run times.

I used to think that the season 2 DVD of My Favorite Martian issued by Rhino had four edited episodes, but I found out later the episodes aren't edited. The episodes in question are sped up versions, they are uncut but the shorter run time due to compression gives the impression they're edited.

I also recall maybe two or three episodes of Sanford and Son were edited on the DVD but I don't remember which ones. It was back in 2012 when I watched it.

Sitcoms Online review says Blood Is Thicker Than Junk, This Little TV Went To Market, and A Matter Of Silence are edited. It also says that some other episodes have minor editing issues as well.

But they did release uncut episodes