Bill Cosby basically stated he didn't like the Archie character because he never apologized for the things he said and was the hero of the show. And since he was the hero of the show, it made it easier for people to walk around proud saying what was always in their mind.

He also said Archie Bunker never seem to improve and came back each week with the same attitude.

Too Bad, I still like Archie Bunker better than Cliff Huxtable:lol:


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Too Bad, I still like Archie Bunker better than Cliff Huxtable:lol:

So do I .................. :)

BTW, Archie wasn't really the hero of the show. Edith was the hero IMO.

So do I .................. :)

BTW, Archie wasn't really the hero of the show. Edith was the hero IMO.


He was probably bitter because his show was cancelled around the same time AITF took off LOL

He also said Archie Bunker never seem to improve and came back each week with the same attitude.


It seemed to me like Archie mellowed out quite a bit during the Archie Bunker's Place years. He didn't seem nearly as prejudice.

It seemed to me like Archie mellowed out quite a bit during the Archie Bunker's Place years. He didn't seem nearly as prejudice.


I think he mellowed out way before ABP. I;m going to say season 7 of AITF

I would have to agree that Archie did change and mellow out over time. You could tell that there was some character growth by the time Stephanie came to live with The Bunkers.

I also agree that Edith was the hero!!! :lol:

I would have to agree that Archie did change and mellow out over time. You could tell that there was some character growth by the time Stephanie came to live with The Bunkers.

I also agree that Edith was the hero!!! :lol:



I think he grew about 3 seasons before stephanie arrived

Wasn't the whole point of Archie Bunker's character to poke fun at the ignorance of some people at the time anyway? If not only to poke fun, but then also to make people realize or become aware of their own prejudices? If you look at it from that perspective, I don't think it was offensive. It was more tongue and cheek.

Wasn't the whole point of Archie Bunker's character to poke fun at the ignorance of some people at the time anyway? If not only to poke fun, but then also to make people realize or become aware of their own prejudices? If you look at it from that perspective, I don't think it was offensive. It was more tongue and cheek.


The NAACP said they never received complaints because the Archie Bunker character ever used the N-word and he was motivated by fear instead of hate

The NAACP said they never received complaints because the Archie Bunker character ever used the N-word and he was motivated by fear instead of hate

To me it seemed like they presented the show and Archie Bunker's character so that people could laugh at Archie, not with him.

Well, I'm sure that Bill Cosby isn't the first to find fault with good ol' Archie - he is after all a person of the race the character belittled in the show often. As much as I respect Bill Cosby on alot of his views with the country and youth (of even his race), I have to disagree also that Archie had clearly changed. Maybe not fully, but you know what they say about old dogs and new tricks. Hell, why should a person change their opinion simply because someone says they are wrong? And that is what is wrong with the world today. You can't freely tell it like it is! I ask, why the hell not?? Okay, I'm getting off subject, sorry. But in closing I will say Bill Cosby IMO, is very gifted in his own way, but I also prefer Archie Bunker to Cliff Huxtable any day.

Well, I'm sure that Bill Cosby isn't the first to find fault with good ol' Archie - he is after all a person of the race the character belittled in the show often. As much as I respect Bill Cosby on alot of his views with the country and youth (of even his race), I have to disagree also that Archie had clearly changed. Maybe not fully, but you know what they say about old dogs and new tricks. Hell, why should a person change their opinion simply because someone says they are wrong? And that is what is wrong with the world today. You can't freely tell it like it is! I ask, why the hell not?? Okay, I'm getting off subject, sorry. But in closing I will say Bill Cosby IMO, is very gifted in his own way, but I also prefer Archie Bunker to Cliff Huxtable any day.


I agree because it was nothing funny about Cliff huxtable

The funny thing about Carroll O'Connor, is that he and Archie were polar opposites. I once saw an interview with Rob Reiner in which he talked about how Carroll was even more liberal in real life than his (Rob's) character. I certainly never viewed Archie as the hero. IMO, Archie generally always came off as a colossal joke because he said the most ridiculous things. I am sure that was Norman Lear's intent, as all of his shows were designed to show just show ridiculous bigotry and social injustice was/is. I too agree, that Edith was definitely the hero of the show.

I thought the show did a good job of representing Black-Americans with Louise and Lionel, and to some degree maybe with George.

I thought the show did a good job of representing Black-Americans with Louise and Lionel, and to some degree maybe with George.


I agree with that, it Louise and Lionel were solid characters

Funny I never got the feeling that All in the Family was portraying Archie as the hero of the show. And Archie does change over time, He soften by the end of the show.

Archie is 10 Times funnier then Cliff Huxtable. Archie also had a bigger impact on TV then Cliff Huxtable did.


I think the show thought the show did a good job of representing Black-Americans with Louise and Lionel also. Also All in The Family in a way was kind of the first show to really portray a Successful Middle class(Before they moved up) African American Family.

Funny I never got the feeling that All in the Family was portraying Archie as the hero of the show. And Archie does change over time, He soften by the end of the show.

Archie is 10 Times funnier then Cliff Huxtable. Archie also had a bigger impact on TV then Cliff Huxtable did.


I think the show thought the show did a good job of representing Black-Americans with Louise and Lionel also. Also All in The Family in a way was kind of the first show to really portray a Successful Middle class(Before they moved up) African American Family.


Cliff Huxtable had zero impact on TV History LOL

Everyone has said such right on things about AITF. And I must say, seeing the show as a teen when it originally aired was a MIND BLOWING experience. Cosby's opinion doesn't hold water with me, and on another note, never thought his show was all that anyways.

Surprisingly AITF was still ranked high among black people when it first aired

Surprisingly AITF was still ranked high among black people when it first aired

Which just goes to show you how much Cosby knows