View Full Version : Bluray - do you have any interest?


ajgenard
11-19-2012, 01:21 AM
The complete series release of The Dick Van Dyke Show on bluray this past week marks the first classic sitcom to see a BR release. I'm really curious as to how many people here have any interest in seeing more classic sitcoms on bluray.

dakert
11-19-2012, 02:20 AM
I am very satisfied with regular dvds but if my DVD player ever quits I would get a Blu Ray player only because they also play regular dvds. My Sony dvd player is 11 years old and I never had a problem with it.

robyrob
11-19-2012, 10:50 AM
i don't see the point in buying a high-definition version of something that was never filmed in hi-def; you are just stretching the image

- also I don't trust Sony and their Bluray licensing; who is to say they won't just brick your player and disks at any time they want just depending on their current interpretation of "ownership" and "digital rights management"

robby76
11-19-2012, 12:41 PM
I hate blu-ray packaging more than anything!!! I prefer my bigger cased full artwork dvd releases! They look more like a collector's item.

Regulus
11-19-2012, 12:49 PM
Right Now, the only TV Series I have on Blu-Ray is Star Trek (The Original Series) - Which has both the original and remastered SFX. I purchased it as a Christmas "Splurge" to complete my Collection, having acquired the other four "Live" series earlier for a considerable discount at a Garage Sale. :D

If I get a TV Show or Movie on Blue Ray it's either:

1. I found it in the Bargain Bin :cool:

2. Someone gave it to me as a gift :D

3. It replaces a VHS or DVD which "Died" (The latest was my copy of The Polar Express, the DVD of which had "Freeze Issues" that I couldn't resolve on three different players, so I had no choice but to replace it). :wallbang

AKA
11-19-2012, 03:34 PM
i don't see the point in buying a high-definition version of something that was never filmed in hi-def; you are just stretching the image.
Actually, anything that was shot on film (instead of videotape) can be mastered in true high-definition and look just as good as things filmed digitally in HD today. I have Blu-rays of movies up to 75 years old that look absolutely stunning in 1080p.

Also, nothing I own or have seen on Blu-ray that was produced in a 4x3 aspect ratio is "stretched." It's all pillarboxed, with the image in the middle of the screen and "black bars" filling the unused portion on each side (screenshots below).

Chelsea
11-19-2012, 04:08 PM
When it comes down to it, the real difference is between shows that were recorded to videotape and shows that were recorded to film. If it was recorded straight to tape, with no stop on film whatsoever, you're going to be working with master copies that top out at the standard 480 resolution. Even on an HD medium like Blu-ray, though, you're still getting a level of sharpness and picture clarity within that resolution that isn't available elsewhere. 480 native resolution video on Bluray is still going to be superior to to 480 native resolution on DVD, albeit the difference is relatively minor.

The thing is, though, that a lot of shows (especially dramas, but even quite a few sitcoms) started out on film before being recorded to tape for final editing and broadcast. some you might not even think were recorded to film, were. And in all cases where the original film masters still exist (and that's quite a few cases), the resolution on the film masters is usually 1080 if not even higher. Some masters are in the 4:3 version of 1080, others are actually in widescreen, as that's what films were already shooting in.

The only reason you haven't seen a gigantic rush to release the HD versions of older library material on Bluray is cost vs. income. It costs money to track down the film masters, occasionally do some cleaning work, and press the discs. Of shows that have already been put out within the last 10 years. All while digital streaming is right on the heels of the entire physical media market.

gilligan fanatic
11-19-2012, 04:21 PM
I only have one classic show on bluray and that is The Twlight Zone and it looks so good. I would consider buying a show on bluray if I didn't have it already on DVD or if ot was one of my all time favorites like GI.

robyrob
11-19-2012, 05:03 PM
Actually, anything that was shot on film (instead of videotape) can be mastered in true high-definition and look just as good as things filmed digitally in HD today. I have Blu-rays of movies up to 75 years old that look absolutely stunning in 1080p.

Also, nothing I own or have seen on Blu-ray that was produced in a 4x3 aspect ratio is "stretched." It's all pillarboxed, with the image in the middle of the screen and "black bars" filling the unused portion on each side (screenshots below).

- see that's the thing - just because it "can" be remastered in true HD, doesn't necessarily mean that they will; in some cases they just use the dvd transfers and up-convert, it all depends on what they are actually using for the source material and how far they are willing to go to get it right (and how much they are willing to spend up front without knowing how well the item is going to sell - although you would think that the current dvd sales would be a good indicator). - there have been far too many cases where a show's dvd release turns out to come from syndication tapes rather than the original source, so it pays to check it out first.

MickeyMac
11-20-2012, 03:04 PM
From what I understand you need a high def TV for a Blu Ray player. Frankly I am not that impressed with high def TV, and all the TV's now are flatscreen and I hate flatscreen TV. I probably wont be getting a Blu Ray player in the foreseeable future.

loaferman
11-20-2012, 03:44 PM
I hope DVD players will be around for a long time to come. I have a pretty sizable collection of TV on DVD's and not much interest in buying them again. Compared to how they used to look on non-cable TV, DVD is plenty clear. Whenever I run across a decent DVD player on sale I get it if I have a few extra bucks to have backups for the 2 I use now. I have a bunch of VHS tapes but no good quality VHS player, the one's you find in stores now are crap.

AKA
11-21-2012, 11:37 PM
I'm a strong believer that everything shot on film--television or theatrical movie--should be remastered in HD, in the highest resolution possible, if only in the name of preservation. For the nonbelievers in this thread, the screenshots I posted up there speak for themselves. If you still don't want to adapt to HD, that's fine; HD programming will still look good downconverted on your old tube set.

OH Nuts!
11-22-2012, 01:07 AM
I'm still wowed by DVDs. If my combo unit croaks, I would probably buy a blue ray combo unit if not too pricey. Otherwise a standalone blue ray player. I only have 3 VHS tapes at this point anyways.

704Hauser
11-22-2012, 05:18 AM
I'm a strong believer that everything shot on film--television or theatrical movie--should be remastered in HD, in the highest resolution possible, if only in the name of preservation. For the nonbelievers in this thread, the screenshots I posted up there speak for themselves. If you still don't want to adapt to HD, that's fine; HD programming will still look good downconverted on your old tube set.

I totally agree with this, as for sitcoms shot on videotape, Blu-Ray won't enhance the quality by much as opposed to DVD.

AKA
11-22-2012, 01:08 PM
And to alleviate any fears, DVD isn't going away anytime soon. Blu-ray is no more a threat to DVD than Laserdisc was to VHS. DVD has already survived the Blu-ray format longer than VHS survived DVD.

JamesG
11-22-2012, 01:39 PM
Brad, how do you think the 3D Blu-ray is catching on?

I know that we both have the PS3s and I was reading that there is some upgrade to get that will enable the system to play them.

Going by the people I know, nobody is doing 3D in their homes yet.

AKA
11-22-2012, 01:45 PM
My sister-in-law and her husband have a 3DTV, as do some friends of ours. Still, I'm not sure if the technology is catching on as much as those in the industry had hoped. I think that smart TV is the "next big thing," while the demand for 3D will continue to die down. My sister-in-law doesn't even have a Blu-ray player, or HD cable, so I'm not sure why they bought their TV.

Personally, I can't see movies in 3D, as I'm legally blind out of my right eye. If I'm looking at you, or watching TV, I'm doing it mostly with my left eye, while the one on the right is pretty much dead weight. On the bright side, I save money on TV sets, Blu-rays and movie tickets, since I never have to spring for 3D. ;)

robyrob
11-22-2012, 01:50 PM
Robyn's tv (LG 47LW5300) and Bluray player are both 3D; so far I'm not impressed, and even less impressed with Time Warner's 3D-HD offerings - and once again they have managed to avoid a single standard, instead favoring the myriad flavors for maximum consumer confusion.

AKA
11-22-2012, 01:55 PM
Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but I hope the 3D fad dies down. I hate being the wet blanket who has to drag his friends and family to the 2D showing of a movie.

robyrob
11-22-2012, 08:10 PM
Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but I hope the 3D fad dies down. I hate being the wet blanket who has to drag his friends and family to the 2D showing of a movie.
well I'm not going to be impressed until they come out with Smell-O-Vision

Torgo
11-23-2012, 10:50 AM
Brad, how do you think the 3D Blu-ray is catching on?

I know that we both have the PS3s and I was reading that there is some upgrade to get that will enable the system to play them.

Going by the people I know, nobody is doing 3D in their homes yet.

I've gone to 3D, purchased 3 sets of glasses- Avatar came free with the Blu Ray player we purchased and it looks absolutely amazing in 3D, as does The Polar Express.

Because our TV can't do it we can't convert 2D to 3D, but from people I've talked to who can do that they get mixed results.

Torgo
11-23-2012, 10:50 AM
well I'm not going to be impressed until they come out with Smell-O-Vision

Or Feel-Around.

ajgenard
11-25-2012, 08:47 AM
Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but I hope the 3D fad dies down. I hate being the wet blanket who has to drag his friends and family to the 2D showing of a movie.

You and me both, brother. I'm convinced it will ultimately fail just like it failed every time it's been pushed on the American public. The most damning thing about home theater 3D is that the only method that's practical (guaranteed to work on every TV with every player) renders the poorest results - anaglyph that utilizes the red and blue glasses which has been around for decades. For me, it's fine to watch every once in a great while because it costs nothing extra and is simple enough in design. But they really got carried away with the different 3D methods and different equipment required. Not developing a basic, low-cost, practical standard will be the death of 3D...this time around anyways.

MaxKroven
11-27-2012, 08:17 AM
Other than people who own Playstation 3s, i really don't see much use for the medium... i mean, almost no one is using it for what it could really be used: store 3 or 4 movies into a single disc... i'm not that interested in super sharp image resolution, i feel DVDs already offer as good visuals as we need to get... well, that's just MHO.

LUNCH
11-30-2012, 06:09 PM
I have no interest in blu rays whatsoever.The picture quality on DVDs is very clear,definitely clear enough for me.--Having said that I guess it's an OK idea to release some classic TV programs on blu ray for those that are interested in viewing them that way.

visaman666
12-01-2012, 12:10 AM
3. It replaces a VHS or DVD which "Died" (The latest was my copy of The Polar Express, the DVD of which had "Freeze Issues" that I couldn't resolve on three different players, so I had no choice but to replace it). :wallbang


I have seen The Polar Express at an IMAX theater in 3D. The only way to see it IMHO. :cool:

Ron Ron
12-14-2012, 12:32 AM
I have a blu ray player. I have never had one. Some of the dvds from tv shows sets look good on blu ray and others dont.

The season 5 of Charlies Angels looks flawless on blu ray. I couldnt believe how great the picture looks. The season looks remastered. The season 5 is from the complete series release. I got it from amazon for 8 bucks!

I did play a season 1 episode of Charlies Angels on my blu ray and it looks good but not as great as season 5.

I do have a regular dvd player and use that one as well for those that dont look as great on blu ray.

I dont know why some tv shows on dvd look better than others.