In terms of within the context of where other TGIF sitcoms like Boy Meets World and Family Matters were going after 1994-95 (FH's final season):
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Nov 3, 2012, 7:46am, The Unknown Poster wrote:


Boy Meets World ranged anywhere from "i'll watch it because it's on" to "I want to kill every character on this show" Something happened in the 90s where shows with interesting, sometimes goofy, braindead characters needed to evolve into something deeper. It happened here with Sean, Urkel, Cody, Waldo, Mark on Roseanne, and Im certain I'm missing a hundred others. The show was harmless enough it's fist couple of years but then... just... ugh, it was as bad as the final two seasons of Family Matters when for some reason they stopped making the show about the exploits of a family and their PITA neighbor and turned it into dialogue about the harsh reality of a black family growing up in the inner city, now with a PITA neighbor who could go into space, fly back in time and transform into a stud.

Yeah Boy Meets World got that bad.


Looking back on it, a show like Full House ending in 1995 was a blessing for that show. Imagine if they tried to stretch it out into the late-90's? Yikes.

But I agree, the 90's changed family sitcoms to the point where now they now longer exist (Disney shows don't count). Shame.

No. January, 1988 would've been a better time. It was actually further behind in the ratings than I Married Dora at the time the latter was cancelled.

I have mixed feelings about it. With D.J. in college and the way Michelle dominated the show in the last 2-3 seasons season 9 might not have been as strong as the first 8 but then part of me also thinks it would have been worth watching anyway had they gone further. I would have watched had they gone on to like 15 seasons since this is my favorite show ever lol.

Regardless season 8 was a really good place to end without having any jarring changes like the move to the WB or cast changes for cast members who wanted to leave and whatnot.

I would've watched anyway too. Full House is one of my all-time favorites.
I just think, and I'm sure everyone can agree with me on this one, that the show got a terrible send-off/series finale.
I think it did end at the right time though, like Ihavealife2uknow above me said, before someone major left the show or it was switched to another network.

That being said, I'm still waiting on that televised reunion!!! :lol:

I think a good series finale would've been Danny getting married. Perhaps to Vicky? I like that they brought Steve back in the series finale.

I would've watched anyway too. Full House is one of my all-time favorites.
I just think, and I'm sure everyone can agree with me on this one, that the show got a terrible send-off/series finale.
I think it did end at the right time though, like Ihavealife2uknow above me said, before someone major left the show or it was switched to another network.

That being said, I'm still waiting on that televised reunion!!! :lol:

I think a good series finale would've been Danny getting married. Perhaps to Vicky? I like that they brought Steve back in the series finale.



It was too much of the "Michelle Show" from 1991-1995, (maybe even before that, too), but the move to Tuesday nights was turning it into that type of show.

I didn't watch as many first-run shows during seasons 7 and 8, but I do remember watching the Disneyworld 2 parter first run and Danny proposing to Vicky as well as Comet getting lost and the season 7 finale first-run.

My Dad used to record the show for me when I was in 4th grade in 1991-1992 (I was in the same grade as Stephanie)...and definitely in that season it was all about Michelle and that was season 5. I forget the year it switched to Tuesday nights, but if you add season by season, that's how old Michelle is. By season 4, she was old enough to walk, talk, and didn't just act all cute and baby-ish as she did the first 3 seasons. Once she was old enough to master more dialogue, that's when it became the "Michelle show"...


Now getting to was it the right time to end. I'd say no. When I was around 12, I realized all shows had to end at some point, and I witnessed that first with Full House, a show I watched first run since 1987. I had also witnessed it with ALF as well (they were cancelled and had bad ratings, Full House was watched by a lot of kids, teens, and families, so I thought it was still gonna keep going).

However, since it became the "Michelle Show," I started losing interest, especially with the addition of Nicky and Alex. As I mentioned above, I was in the same grade as Stephanie on the show, so I had more homework in both 6th and 7th grade than I had in other grades. I also took an interest in FOX in 1993, and started watching that more on Monday and Wednesday nights, leaving Tuesday free to watch ABC if I had the chance or remembered to.


With that being said, I think the show deserved more closure. Would it have been different? Let's just say on a new network, they would have made a new recording of the theme song. They most likely would have built new sets or changed the design of the kitchen/livingroom and girls rooms to update them more. Would the show still have been all about Michelle? Well, she would have been 9, and by that time, Stephanie was slowly getting out of her "kid stage" when she was 9, so I'd say it would have been okay to watch.

A final season could have shown Michelle getting hit on by boys, maybe dealing with the death of Comet...they got Comet early in the series, maybe Comet would have gotten sick and passed away? Either Gia's Mom dating Danny or Vicky coming back would have been nice. By the end of the season, a series finale with Danny getting married with everyone there would have worked perfectly to close the series. I don't think DJ would have eloped or anything, but I think she would have not been around during the final season, giving her room to Stephanie and Michelle finally getting her own room (This would have changed the design of the girls rooms again)...DJ could have visited on college winter break and on summer vacation in the Christmas and Series finale. Steve would have also returned. I think Steve would have definitely proposed to DJ if the show came back, but I bet Danny would have let her wait until college was over to get married.

Technology was still pretty much the same in 1995-1996, but the arrival of the internet was starting up and a lot of people were online in 1996, creating websites, chatting on IM/chatrooms, et. I remember my best friend at the time got the internet and a home computer when we both started 8th grade. I think Stephanie getting her own new computer and getting in trouble with some online stalker or boy would have worked. I doubt anyone would have had a flip cell phone at the time, the one you'd pull the antena out of and just use it to talk.


Kimmy most likely would have been either reduced since DJ wasn't around, or she might have been more around Stephanie, asking her to use her computer to chat with DJ to see what she's up to in college. I could definitely see Kimmy still visiting the house, maybe with Duane, but she'd not have internet/computer at home which the Tanner's would have at the time...a lot of people knew of the internet then, but not many got it until around 1998 (when I got mine) and it was slow as ever but everyone used it for e-mail, IM, and just looking at webpages and chatrooms/forums. I know all those features were around back in 1995-1996. I think that's the year the internet started getting promoted on TV for AOL.

I would've watched anyway too. Full House is one of my all-time favorites.
I just think, and I'm sure everyone can agree with me on this one, that the show got a terrible send-off/series finale.
I think it did end at the right time though, like Ihavealife2uknow above me said, before someone major left the show or it was switched to another network.

That being said, I'm still waiting on that televised reunion!!! :lol:

I think a good series finale would've been Danny getting married. Perhaps to Vicky? I like that they brought Steve back in the series finale.
It ended because they couldn't aford to produce it anymore.

Eight seasons is good enough, anything more then the show is just overstaying their welcome (hint:The Simpsons).

I do agree that Full House probably couldn't be made the way that it was normally made, today. If anything, Full House would probably wound up on the Disney Channel (we're FH's more cutesy, mostly non-threatening brand of humor would fit in like a glove) instead of a major network like ABC. You can argue that 7th Heaven (despite being a one hour drama w/ religious overtones when compared to a 30 minute sitcom) took the mantle that FH left. Both FH and 7H were for better or worse, glorified Hall-mark ads (w/ all of the emphasize on heavy-handed moralizing) turned into episodic TV shows.

Back to my original point, if FH were to be made for a major network, then it probably would have to be a bit "snarkier" or edgier if that makes sense. I think that's why for the most part, the TGIF shows under the Miller-Boyett production company have arguably not aged very well.

Eight seasons is good enough, anything more then the show is just overstaying their welcome (hint:The Simpsons).I think it stayed on for 7 years.

^ Just checked IMDB and it aired from 1987-1995 = 8 years.

Yes.

I do agree that Full House probably couldn't be made the way that it was normally made, today. If anything, Full House would probably wound up on the Disney Channel (we're FH's more cutesy, mostly non-threatening brand of humor would fit in like a glove) instead of a major network like ABC. You can argue that 7th Heaven (despite being a one hour drama w/ religious overtones when compared to a 30 minute sitcom) took the mantle that FH left. Both FH and 7H were for better or worse, glorified Hall-mark ads (w/ all of the emphasize on heavy-handed moralizing) turned into episodic TV shows.

Back to my original point, if FH were to be made for a major network, then it probably would have to be a bit "snarkier" or edgier if that makes sense. I think that's why for the most part, the TGIF shows under the Miller-Boyett production company have arguably not aged very well.None of the TGIF shows wouldn't last today.

To me, one more season should have been done because then it would have ended in the spring of 1996. The fall of that year was when 7th Heaven started, so if one more season of Full House had happened, there wouldn't have been a one year gap between two great family shows.

God bless you always!!! :) :) :)

Holly

never seen 7th heaven before but i wish full house went another year or 2

None of the TGIF shows wouldn't last today.

Of all of the shows that aired on TGIF, right off the type of my head, I think Boy Meets World for the most part can still work today (w/o having to change too much to fit in w/ modern times like Full House would likely have to). And I'm not just saying that because of the current existence of Girl Meets World.

I think that Sabrina the Teenage Witch could theoretically work today, but I doubt that it would air on ABC (only because fantasy sitcoms aren't really popular (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DeaderThanDisco/LiveActionTV) anymore unless they're on the Disney Channel) right from the start.

None of the TGIF shows wouldn't last today.

The irony is that before Full House and that particular brand of family sitcoms, they were probably considered a little more serious and "ground-breaking" in terms of introducing single-moms (e.g. One Day at a Time and Kate & Allie), single-dads (e.g. Diff'rent Strokes and Silver Spoons), dual-working parent households (e.g. The Cosby Show), au-pairs with absent parents (e.g. Gimmie a Break), gender role reversals (e.g. Who's the Boss and Growing Pains), generational pseudo-clashes (e.g. Family Ties) and somewhat more cynical or realistic depictions of the working class (e.g. Married..with Children and Roseanne): all of which probably created a demand for something a little more light-hearted (where the messages were a little less subtle and didn't take a back seat to some better comedic narratives) and low risk on Friday nights.

I stopped watching it after they moved it to Tuesday nights, mainly because I would forget that it was on and by the time they finally canceled it, I dind't really care anymore. But they probably could have ended it a lot earlier instead of having it run for 8 seasons.

Personally, I thought Full House should have ended with the episode where Jesse and Becky got married in Feb. 1991. That would have been perfect, but no, ABC still had to keep it going for four more years.

Personally, I thought Full House should have ended with the episode where Jesse and Becky got married in Feb. 1991. That would have been perfect, but no, ABC still had to keep it going for four more years.

I think that Full House "jumped the shark" so to speak, when Jesse and Becky continued to live in Danny's house despite getting married. It just came off as the producers wanting to have their cake and eat it too. It also made Jesse look like a chump for basing his major life decisions on the whims of his youngest niece's happiness. It also made Joey's role in the house kind of redundant if there was going to be fourth parental figure (Becky) in the Tanner household. Joey now just came off as essentially a free-loader and third wheel, who doesn't want to get a place of his own even though he theoretically, has the means to do so.

I think that Full House "jumped the shark" so to speak, when Jesse and Becky continued to live in Danny's house despite getting married. It just came off as the producers wanting to have their cake and eat it too. It also made Jesse look like a chump for basing his major life decisions on the whims of his youngest niece's happiness. It also made Joey's role in the house kind of redundant if there was going to be fourth parental figure (Becky) in the Tanner household. Joey now just came off as essentially a free-loader and third wheel, who doesn't want to get a place of his own even though he theoretically, has the means to do so.


I agree with this, especially about Joey. The house really was too crowded toward the end. I mean the show was initially supposed to be about three guys raising three kids and although it's nice that it lasted so long I think they could have ended it sooner. The kids weren't really cute anymore (especially Michelle) as they got older, but as I stated in an earlier post, I hated it when they moved it to Tuesday because 99% of the time I would forget that it was on and I missed a lot of episodes. I did watch the finale however and I wasn't really impressed. I read later that the last episode wasn't really intended to be the finale but that the show was canceled before they could really do a different one.

I agree with this, especially about Joey. The house really was too crowded toward the end. I mean the show was initially supposed to be about three guys raising three kids and although it's nice that it lasted so long I think they could have ended it sooner. The kids weren't really cute anymore (especially Michelle) as they got older, but as I stated in an earlier post, I hated it when they moved it to Tuesday because 99% of the time I would forget that it was on and I missed a lot of episodes. I did watch the finale however and I wasn't really impressed. I read later that the last episode wasn't really intended to be the finale but that the show was canceled before they could really do a different one.

Full House when it started, was essentially "Three Men and a Baby: The TV Sitcom". But I wonder if the premise was kind of a "Catch-22" because exactly how long did Danny need Jesse and Joey to help him raise his kids? I mean, DJ when Full House ended in 1995, was practically if not almost, a young adult. So it wasn't like her character needed full adult supervision anymore.

Also, how long did Danny want Jesse and Becky to live in his house and raise their kids there? I guess, that Danny would have to "pay it forward" since Jesse helped raise his own kids.

^^^ I wouldn't call the beginning of the show Three Men And A Baby since two other kids were a part of the picture. I will say though that the end may have been at the right time because at the end of the final episode, D.J. is off to her senior prom. The show also went for eight seasons too when there are plenty of shows that never got as long of a life. Perfect Strangers only for six full seasons. Step By Step got seven. Hangin' With Mr. Cooper only got five, and of course that list goes on.

God bless you always!!!

Holly