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JamesG
09-26-2012, 05:36 PM
Beach Boys Reunion Tour Ending With Three Founding Members Sacked Via Public Statement
09/26/2012


The Beach Boys might still be 'Keepin' the Summer Alive' with their U.K. tour, but for three members it will be a cold harsh winter.

The band's frontman Mike Love announced that the group will split after this week in the U.K. and three members -- Brian Wilson, Al Jardine and David Marks -- have been dropped from the group. The three did not find out they had been dropped until Love and Bruce Johnston released a public statement.

The statement announcing the big shake up reads: "The post-50th anniversary configuration will not include Brian Wilson, Al Jardine and David Marks. The 50th Reunion Tour was designed to be a set tour with a beginning and an end to mark a special 50-year milestone for the band."





The exiting Beach Boys will be replaced by the group's long-time backing band, which includes Love's son Christian, according to the Telegraph. Love added that the decision to drop the three members was financially motivated.

"You've got to be careful not to get overexposed. There are promoters who are interested [I], but they've said, 'Give it a rest for a year'. The Eagles found out the hard way when they went out for a second year and wound up selling tickets for $5."





Wilson was blindsided.

"I'm disappointed and can't understand why he (Love) doesn't want to tour with Al, David and me," he told CNN. "We are out here having so much fun. After all, we are the real Beach Boys."

If the five members of the Beach Boys do not rekindle their bond, the September 28 concert at Wembley Stadium may be the last show they play together, CNN noted.





There is already a petition on iPetition.com asking for Love, who owns the rights to the band's name, to re-think the decision to break up the original Beach Boys.

The petition, addressed to Love, reads: "In order to preserve the validity of 'The Beach Boys' as a whole, and not as a 'money saving, stripped down version' that only contains 1 original member, and 1 member that joined in 1965, we ask you to re-instate the 3 other members to the touring group for your final years performing."

"It's the right thing to do, and it's what the fans want," the message concludes.

Jardine linked to the petition in a tweet. As of Wednesday morning, it had over 2,000 signatures.







In December 2011, the Beach Boys confirmed 50 shows to celebrate their 50th anniversary, Rolling Stone previously reported. The band formed in California in 1961. The reunion tour marks the first time the Boys have toured together in more than two decades.

Although the group had problems in the past, like nasty comments in the press and numerous lawsuits, Love swore that all the negativity was behind them.

"All that stuff is long forgotten," he told Rolling Stone.





Back in June, Rolling Stone had reported that Love booked shows for his version of the Beach Boys without consulting the other members.

On Sept. 19, the group played at the Grammy Museum in Los Angeles to celebrate the opening of the new Beach Boys exhibit.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/26/beach-boys-dump-three-members-public-statement-uk-tour_n_1916065.html?

Schmoopie
09-27-2012, 01:42 AM
I don't get why there is so much bad blood between these guys. They've been together forever and this has been going on for a long time. But at first it was just Brian Wilson who wasn't going to tour with them. They came here and I refused to go. I like Mike Love and the other members, but without Brian Wilson, it's just not the Beach Boys. Thank God I got to see them when they were all together. I don't think anyone would care if they never did another tour, b/c they are getting up there in age. I mean they had an amazing legend and sometimes too much is too much. I'll always love their music though!

70s show watcher
09-27-2012, 07:39 AM
that sucks

AKA
09-27-2012, 10:42 AM
Yep. That sound like Mike Love's M.O. Sad.

MrCleveland
09-27-2012, 01:24 PM
That's Mike Loathe for you...I know his name is Mike Love, but he makes us loathe his way.

If Brian Wilson has a concert anytime, please tell me and I'll go for Brian!

AKA
09-27-2012, 01:34 PM
Exactly, MrCleveland. Brian has a great band (The Wondermints), and Al performs with them from time to time. He doesn't need The Beach Boys, but The Beach Boys need him. He'll be okay; the fake "Beach Boys" will be back to playing state fairs and casinos.

Mike Love and his giant ego have been treating Brian and Al like crap for more than half a century--usurping creativity while they were in the band, and lawsuit after lawsuit after they left in 1998. I would say that Mike ought to be ashamed of himself, but I don't think he has the capacity.

TheCars1986
09-27-2012, 01:48 PM
Without Brian Wilson there is no Beach Boys. You could even make the argument that without Dennis and Carl Wilson there is no Beach Boys.

MrCleveland
09-27-2012, 01:55 PM
Exactly, MrCleveland. Brian has a great band (The Wondermints), and Al performs with them from time to time. He doesn't need The Beach Boys, but The Beach Boys need him. He'll be okay; the fake "Beach Boys" will be back to playing state fairs and casinos.

Mike Love and his giant ego have been treating Brian and Al like crap for more than half a century--usurping creativity while they were in the band, and lawsuit after lawsuit after they left in 1998. I would say that Mike ought to be ashamed of himself, but I don't think he has the capacity.

Yes...and Mike's ego started by 1967, one of the reasons why "Smile" was postponed until 2004 and released by Brian Wilson...NOT The Beach Boys! Brian, though was on drugs and had situations...made one of the best Albums out there "Pet Sounds" and a #1 Hit song, "Good Vibrations"! Mike Love's Beach Boys has kept the same Surf-Rock shtick since "Endless Summer" and we get another #1 Hit song "Kokomo"!

Let's compare those songs...

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What song would you rather listen to?

AKA
09-27-2012, 01:58 PM
Without Brian Wilson there is no Beach Boys. You could even make the argument that without Dennis and Carl Wilson there is no Beach Boys.
To be fair, there were a lot of instances during Dennis' lifetime that the band existed without him (he was asked to leave many times in order to sober up). Carl even left for a short time in the early '80s to pursue his solo career, but returned when Dennis died. It wasn't until Carl passed away that the Beach Boys crumbled into their current sad, pathetic state ("The Mike and Bruce Show").

I thought it was great that they they had four original members (plus Bruce) for the fiftieth anniversary. If they couldn't get Carl and Dennis, this was the next best thing.

AKA
09-27-2012, 02:01 PM
Yes...and Mike's ego started by 1967, one of the reasons why "Smile" was postponed until 2004 and released by Brian Wilson...NOT The Beach Boys! Brian, though was on drugs and had situations...made one of the best Albums out there "Pet Sounds" and a #1 Hit song, "Good Vibrations"! Mike Love's Beach Boys has kept the same Surf-Rock shtick since "Endless Summer" and we get another #1 Hit song "Kokomo"!

Let's compare those songs...

TCeD_6Y3GQc
9_5_AD9wXuY

What song would you rather listen to?
"Don't **** with the 'formula,' Brian!" --Mike Love, 1967. What an ass.

70s show watcher
09-27-2012, 05:17 PM
Exactly, MrCleveland. Brian has a great band (The Wondermints), and Al performs with them from time to time. He doesn't need The Beach Boys, but The Beach Boys need him. He'll be okay; the fake "Beach Boys" will be back to playing state fairs and casinos.

Mike Love and his giant ego have been treating Brian and Al like crap for more than half a century--usurping creativity while they were in the band, and lawsuit after lawsuit after they left in 1998. I would say that Mike ought to be ashamed of himself, but I don't think he has the capacity.you took the words right out of my mouth mike love is a jackas;; and alwas has been

UMFaninMD
09-28-2012, 06:20 PM
Well, I'm not surprised this happened. But I guess Mike Love wants to go back to state fair and public park concerts, because they haven't seen this much hype and excitement for a long time until Brian Wilson's short-lived return. I think he's afraid that the renewed popularity would mean he wouldn't retain his status as the #1 Beach Boy. It's pretty pathetic he still acts this petty at this stage of his life.

AKA
09-29-2012, 12:05 PM
If anyone is wondering what kind of person Mike Love is, look no further than this video.

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JamesG
10-05-2012, 06:14 PM
Beach Boys' Mike Love: "I Did Not Fire Brian Wilson"
10/5/2012
by Erik Hayden


Mike Love wants to get one thing straight: He didn't fire Brian Wilson.

However, the singer does give numerous reasons in an op-ed why he issued a statement saying he would continue to tour as the Beach Boys without Wilson, Al Jardine or David Marks -- chalking it mainly up to tour logistics.



"I did not fire Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys. I cannot fire Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys. I am not his employer. I do not have such authority," Love wrote emphatically in the Los Angeles Times.

"And even if I did, I would never fire Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys. I love Brian Wilson."







As Love explains in the Times, the 50th anniversary tour was just meant to be a "limited run" and he had other tour dates that were already set up.

"Like any good party, no one wanted it to end. However, that was impossible, given that we had already set up shows in smaller cities with a different configuration of the band -- the configuration that had been touring together every year for the last 13 years," Love wrote in the newspaper.

"It is not feasible, both logistically and economically, for the 50th anniversary tour to play these markets," Love explained.



The Mike Love and Bruce Johnston version of the Beach Boys are playing on Friday at the Extraco Events Center in Waco, Texas.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/earshot/mike-love-not-fire-brian-wilson-beach-boys-376770

AKA
10-09-2012, 02:55 PM
Counterpoint:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-brian-wilson-al-jardine-respond-to-mike-love-on-beach-boys-flap-20121008,0,6270223.story?track=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=95857

‘It kind feels like getting fired’ — Brian Wilson to Mike Love

By Brian Wilson
October 9, 2012|7:01 a.m.

The Beach Boys’ recent 50th anniversary tour reunited original members Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, David Marks and longtime member Bruce Johnston for the first time in almost two decades.

Near the end of the tour in London, and the day before the band was saluted with a new 50th anniversary exhibition at the Grammy Museum in Los Angeles, Love announced that he and Johnston would continue touring under the Beach Boys’ name in his pre-anniversary edition of the band, minus Wilson, Jardine and Marks

His announcement, which he said was issued to avoid confusion in smaller markets where the Love-Johnston band had been booked, caused a firestorm of publicity as some media outlets interpreted the move as Love firing Wilson, his cousin.

Love’s response to the reaction (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-mike-love-beach-boys-on-brian-wilson-20121004,0,6311413.story), published exclusively in The Times on Saturday, stated among other things that he never fired Wilson and does not have the authority to do so, adding that even if he did have the authority, he never would fire the man considered the group’s creative leader.

Wilson and Jardine submitted the following response to Love’s letter, in Wilson’s words:

I’ve been asked to respond to a letter that my cousin Mike wrote to the L.A. Times (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-mike-love-beach-boys-on-brian-wilson-20121004,0,6311413.story) regarding the circumstances of the last couple weeks and the confusion of the future of The Beach Boys. Normally I wouldn’t respond to something like this, but because I love what the 50th has done for the band’s image and its legacy, I feel I need to.

First, I want to say that the last few months have been some of the happiest in my life. Recording That’s Why God Made the Radio was a dream come true, to be able to co-write and produce an album for the boys and have it so well received by fans all over the world was the best!

The tour that followed blew away all my expectations. We had a blast, the fans were so supportive and I loved being able to record and sing with the guys. My only regret was that Carl and Dennis were not there to share this experience with us.

Now on to the rumors: As far as I know I can’t be fired—that wouldn’t be cool. The negativity surrounding all the comments bummed me out. What’s confusing is that by Mike not wanting or letting Al, David and me tour with the band, it sort of feels like we’re being fired.

What’s a bummer to Al and me is that we have numerous offers to continue, so why wouldn’t we want to? We all poured our hearts and souls into that album and the fans rewarded us by giving us a No. 3 debut on the Billboard charts, and selling out our shows. We were all blown away by the response.

Al and I would like to be included in the continuous promotion of That’s Why God Made The Radio. That’s what I’ve been doing for over a decade: making records and going out and supporting them. It’s what I do. Capitol Records has been so cool to us this year in terms of supporting the 50th and I personally want to say thanks.

Mike kept saying throughout the tour “The whole is greater than the sum of its parts,” and both Al and I agree, which made us all think that he wanted to continue. We originally started out with 50 shows, but the success and the demand kept growing and we obliged. No one knew in the beginning that this was going to be so rewarding and popular with our fans. Once we got cooking we were all stoked!

After Mike booked a couple of shows with Bruce, Al and I were, of course, disappointed. Then there was confusion in some markets when photos of me, Al and David and the 50th reunion band appeared on websites advertising his shows.

At that point my attorney merely suggested to Mike’s attorney that a possible press release in those markets might be appropriate to stop the confusion, which was in no one’s best interest. That’s it, plain and simple, and a strategy was open for discussion, which never happened.

That’s why I was completely blindsided by his press release. I had no idea that it was coming out, since it was crafted by Mike’s personal PR firm without my knowledge or approval. No one in my camp would have approved it or the timing.

I’m disappointed that Mike would now say that the release was done at the request of my representative. The first I heard about it was at the Grammy Museum event. We hadn’t even discussed as a band what we were going to do with all the offers that were coming in for more 50th shows.

Al and I just assumed based on everyone’s enthusiasm we would at least want to take those offers into consideration since we all knew about them. I mean, who wouldn’t want to play the Hollywood Bowl again, Madison Square Garden and Wrigley Field? And what better way to celebrate New Year’s Eve than with the 50th band? That would have blown the lid off things.

There were also offers for more shows in the U.K. and markets we weren’t able to play during the tour. As I said before, it’s my opinion that we should all go out together as the Beach Boys in support of all our new releases. We really weren’t out on the road that long for an anniversary of this magnitude and I actually think we should make one last record together.

It’s Al and my opinion that all of us together makes for a great representation of the Beach Boys.

While I appreciate the nice cool things Mike said about me in his letter, and I do and always will love him as my cousin and bandmate, at the same time I’m still left wondering why he doesn’t want to continue this great trip we’re on. Al and I want to keep going because we believe we owe it to the music.

That’s it in a nutshell, all these conversations need to be between the shareholders, and I welcome Mike to call me.

In any case happy anniversary, I loved it and I think we knocked it out of the park for what it’s worth.

Love and Mercy,
Brian Wilson

MrCleveland
10-09-2012, 06:35 PM
If anyone is wondering what kind of person Mike Love is, look no further than this video.

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Luckily Mike Love DIDN'T Trash Elton John there...he may have called him a *** or something like that! (Sorry...but how Mike Loathe was rambling, he could take on ANYONE)!

But I do wish Brian Wilson would appear at the 2013 Rock Hall Nomination Show.

I also think Mike Love's attitude CAME from Murray Wilson...Brian's Father!

JamesG
02-12-2013, 01:40 PM
Beach Boys Reunion With Brian Wilson Not Likely, Says Singer
by Margaret Wappler
2/11/13


It might be easy to assume that a legend like Brian Wilson has multiple Grammys cluttering his mantelpiece, but during Sunday's ceremony the Beach Boy accepted just his second. The deluxe boxed set of 'The Smile Sessions' won for Best Historical Album.

In the press room after accepting his award, a short-spoken but enthusiastic Wilson sat in a chair due to recent back surgery. He doesn't expect to reunite with the Beach Boys again anytime soon:

"No, I don't think so. Doubt it," he said.





During the Beach Boys' 50th anniversary reunion tour this summer, Mike Love (who holds legal control of the band's name and brand) contractually dismissed Wilson as well as two other original band members, Al Jardine and David Marks.

Wilson also answered questions about the recently deceased Paul Tanner, who added the iconic theremin line to 'Good Vibrations', as well as his favorite Beach Boy song.

It's 'California Girls', though he added that 'God Only Knows' is a close second.





When a reporter asked if Wilson knew, during the recording of Smile, that his band was ahead of their time, he said they did. How does it feel to be honored for those forward-thinking instincts?

"I feel great, I really do. It's a great honor."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/11/beach-boys-reunion-brian-wilson_n_2664061.html

catlover79
02-12-2013, 05:51 PM
It's still a soap opera with them over 50 years later.

MrCleveland
02-16-2013, 03:38 PM
It's still a soap opera with them over 50 years later.

I just can't stand Mike Love, he HAD to control The Beach Boys!

I just hope Brian Wilson will tour this year.

Dr. Thong
02-16-2013, 04:21 PM
The Beach Boys without Brian Wilson is a joke. It must irk Mike Love that Brian gets all the critical acclaim for his solo albums and tours, while Mike is stuck fronting an oldies band.

Although, knowing Mike, he's probably consoled by all the cash he rakes in...

MrCleveland
02-17-2013, 08:42 AM
The Beach Boys without Brian Wilson is a joke. It must irk Mike Love that Brian gets all the critical acclaim for his solo albums and tours, while Mike is stuck fronting an oldies band.

Although, knowing Mike, he's probably consoled by all the cash he rakes in...

And that's the problem with The Beach Boys now...they became a novelty oldies band with Mike Love taking over.

I just can't wait to hear if Brian Wilson will tour without The Beach Boys.

Dr. Thong
02-17-2013, 11:49 AM
And that's the problem with The Beach Boys now...they became a novelty oldies band with Mike Love taking over.

I just can't wait to hear if Brian Wilson will tour without The Beach Boys.

When Carl Wilson died in 1998, the Beach Boys name should have been retired. To think that the Beach Boys can exist without a Wilson in the band...well, I don't get it.

JamesG
08-14-2013, 01:56 PM
Mike Love "Upset" over Direction of Beach Boys Reunion Album, Tour
8/14/2013
by Gary Graff, Billboard


Though the Beach Boys are divided rather than conquering a year after their triumphant 50th anniversary reunion tour, Mike Love is not ruling out the possibility of it happening again. But he has some stipulations.

"It depends, because the way it was run and the people who were running it I have serious issues with," Love -- who's currently leading his version of the Beach Boys with keyboardist Bruce Johnston -- tells Billboard.

"It will happen only if I can do it with people who I trusted and liked and were honorable. I have no problem with my cousin Brian (Wilson) and I in a room with a piano, but it's not that uncomplicated."





Love doesn't get too specific about his issues with the consortium that managed the Beach Boys' reunion, but he says one point of contention is that he feels plans for him to do some songwriting with Wilson were derailed as part of the process that led to the 2012 studio album 'That's Why God Made the Radio'.

"I talked to Brian about a year before we even started doing any of the recording for the album," Love explains.

"He and I talked about doing a project and he was excited about doing it, but it never came to fruition at all. It was given another direction -- not by me and not by Brian but by others. We were supposed to be allowed to get together to write songs from scratch like we did in the 60s, but that was never to be, and that wasn't because of me.

So I think there are issues related to that whole thing. It was great to be in the studio and listen to those harmonies coming back, but it wasn't the opportunity it was supposed to be, which I'm upset about."





Wilson says he'd still like to pursue some more writing with Wilson, who's played some shows with original Beach Boys Al Jardine and David Marks this summer. That might have to wait, however; Wilson has a new solo album coming this fall, as well as a tour with Jeff Beck.

The Beach Boys, meanwhile, will be releasing a career-spanning box set "Made In California (1962-2012)" on Aug. 27 that features more than 60 previously unreleased tracks.



"I was pretty involved in the sequencing and the song selection and the overall concept," says Love, adding that summarizing the Beach Boys, even on a set this size, is challenging.

"Everybody has their own appreciation of the Beach Boys depending on where they're coming from with their musical tastes, so we tried to be representative of all eras and of everybody in the band and their contributions," he explains.

"Of course it's never going to be the whole story, but it's a pretty extensive one. There may be a couple of things missing that I would have liked to have seen in there, but then everybody else would probably have the same point of view."



The Love-Johnston Beach Boys have U.S. dates booked into mid-October.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/earshot/mike-love-upset-direction-beach-606461