Contrary to what Mash said about Rhee (always negative about poor Rhee). A book (MAGIC AND MAYHEM) showed this of Rhee.

Contrary to what Mash said about Rhee (always negative about poor Rhee). A book (MAGIC AND MAYHEM) showed this of Rhee.

Along those same lines, I don't recall any of them getting mad at the North Koreans for shooting down Col. Blake's plane- not even Frank or Margaret! Considered it a tragic waste that it had happened to someone they loved going home, yes but angry at those who actually shot the plane down, it didn't seem so. :confused:

good point

to this day you can.t even pray in north korea.

kim ll sung makes the list of biggest murderer leaders of all time. rhee does not.

kim ll sung makes the list of biggest murderer leaders of all time. rhee does not.
Also Kim would capture South Korean soldiers and brainwash them into becoming murdering commies for his side.

Also Kim would capture South Korean soldiers and brainwash them into becoming murdering commies for his side.
That Kim II should start being considered (with Mao Zedong) as one of the two worst commies ever.

That Kim II should start being considered (with Mao Zedong) as one of the two worst commies ever.
If you look you can easily find webpages discussing what a big killer Kim II was.

Someone asked if the Turks were the Klingons of Mash. THE NORTH KOREANS SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT POSITION.

North Korea became under Kim just pretty much one giant slave labor camp!

More people should be made aware of the big, terrible deadly deeds of Kim Il Sung.

In GFA notice the anti-Rhee speech Klinger makes to Hawk by phone.

To think Mash is really just a very cleverly disguised make-the-communists-look-ok show.

In GFA notice the anti-Rhee speech Klinger makes to Hawk by phone.
This is rather subliminal stimuli (read the wikipedia article titled "subliminal stimuli").

Old World Almanacs only show one Korea and Rhee being the head of it. By about 1959 the WA was talking about the northern half of Korea. The area had less than like 11 million inhabitants. For Kim Il Sung to have killed 700,000 NK citizens after the Korean War (if not more!) showed he put a considerable percentage of his own people to death!!!!

Old World Almanacs only show one Korea and Rhee being the head of it. By about 1959 the WA was talking about the northern half of Korea. The area had less than like 11 million inhabitants. For Kim Il Sung to have killed 700,000 NK citizens after the Korean War (if not more!) showed he put a considerable percentage of his own people to death!!!!

Years after the terrible Korean War (that North Korea totally started in every way humanly possible) ENDED that horrible North Korea made military intrusions back into poor South Korea! THANK GOD THEY WERE REPULSED OUT!

Years after the terrible Korean War (that North Korea totally started in every way humanly possible) ENDED that horrible North Korea made military intrusions back into poor South Korea! THANK GOD THEY WERE REPULSED OUT!
I think it was because the US was involved in another war in Asia in the 1960's that the very bad North Korean commies tried to hit on poor South Korea again!

With the current 2013 trouble in North Korea this all should have more significance.

Contrary to what Mash said about Rhee (always negative about poor Rhee). A book (MAGIC AND MAYHEM) showed this of Rhee.
Moreorless.au.com/killers/Kim-il-Sung.html

700,000 North Koreans murdered by Kim il Sung after the Korean War ended is the most modest estimate. It could easily have been higher!

The TV Mash was definitely guilty of never having explained facts like Kim Il Sung's responsibility for 700,000 dead North Koreans !

The dictatorship known as North Korea is so bad, slaveowning, brainwashing and murderous it all boggles the greatest of minds!

You cannot even pray to God in North Korea to this very day.

Here is another link on how bad Kim Il Sung was. globaltravels.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/n_korea/main.htm or globaltravels.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/n_korea/kim_il_sung.htm
Or just google "The History of Kim Il Sung-Globaltravels.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk"

"Kim Il Sung Condensed Biography" at google.com. Or [url]www.uk_songun.com/index/php?p=1_112_KIM-IL-SUNG-CONDENSED-BIOGRAPHY

(When you read that long bio remember he killed 700,000 of his own people after the Korean War ended!)

Old World Almanacs only show one Korea and Rhee being the head of it. By about 1959 the WA was talking about the northern half of Korea. The area had less than like 11 million inhabitants. For Kim Il Sung to have killed 700,000 NK citizens after the Korean War (if not more!) showed he put a considerable percentage of his own people to death!!!!


The 1949 World Almanac referred to "northern Korea" as a Soviet puppet state. How true! Also, that the UN didn't recognize the state of North Korea!

"Kim Il Sung Condensed Biography" at google.com. Or [url]www.uk_songun.com/index/php?p=1_112_KIM-IL-SUNG-CONDENSED-BIOGRAPHY

(When you read that long bio remember he killed 700,000 of his own people after the Korean War ended!)

That bio is one of the best on Kim.

That bio is one of the best on Kim.
But some contrary sources say that Kim was actually born into a Christian family (that his own grandfather was a Korean Protestant Minister). Read northkoreanchristians.com/kim-ilsung.html

They say that Kim Il Sung may have had two wives but other sources say the North Korean commie mass murderer only had one WIFE.

It seem as if Kim's family had really been Presbyterian Christians for about two generations before his birth.

kim ll sung makes the list of biggest murderer leaders of all time. rhee does not.
French-Canadian Prime Minister Louis St. Laurent sent many troops against bad Kim Il Sung in 1950!

With all the North Korean problems lately in our everyday world Hawk's ultimately pro-North Korean comments on Mash look really foolish and mean-spirited. (It was wrong of all the Mash writers to do write pro-North Korean even back in he 70's and 80's. North Korea is hell on earth.)

Study of the mass-murderous North Korean police state is indeed time well spent by Canadians and Americans.

One ep of Mash had Hawkeye mention an Abbott and Costello movie that did not exist in real life. This was very confusing to viewers because he put A+C's names into the title and many of their movies actually did have their names in the titles. Let's say in one ep they mentioned mass-murderer Kim II Sung of North Korea, maybe distrustful viewers who had no knowledge of him would have thought he was invented just for the show. (Course they could have had a freeze frame at the ep's end where they mentioned Kim II Sung was the real, biggest brutal killer of Korea and the complete, blameful starter of the whole miserable, mass-murderous Korean conflict in 1950.)

And Kim's son (Kim Jong-Il) was just as mass-murderous as his daddy!

On Mash pretty much everything big about the Korean War except two:

1) That Kim II Sung was a complete mass-murderer who had to be stopped from taking South Korea.

2)That Chiang Kai-Shek offered around 30,000 Nationalist to fight in Korea againast Kim and he (Chinag) was refused war entry by Dean Acheson.

Fact number is the most important to remember!

Sung!

Kim II Sung was not even his name at birth!

The way the Mash crew had it in for Rhee instead of Sung was amazing!

The put-downs of Rhee on Mash were fierce, inappropriate especially given that the much worse Kim II -Sung got no put-downs, and there was more than one.

On February 1, 2013 on/around page 309 a book (Lonely Planet Korea) showed that NORTH Korea had the worst human rights violations on all of planet Earth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The book is at amazon.com and it is published by Lonely Planet.

On February 1, 2013 on/around page 309 a book (Lonely Planet Korea) showed that NORTH Korea had the worst human rights violations on all of planet Earth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The book is at amazon.com and it is published by Lonely Planet.
If that last reference is not icing on the cake (on North Korea's extreme inhuman cruelty)--what is?

Too bad there was little internet back in 1983.

Stop f****** trolling this thread!

Lack of true period flavor on Aftermash was a negative factor but no Kim II Sung mention was a way bigger one!

A Jumptheshark.com poster also suggested that Alan Alda get off of one of his Phil Donahue-esque rants and mention the masses of poor victims of North Korean brutality, mass-murder and tyranny (phrased it a little differently but that is just what that poster meant). The Jumptheshark.com postings can be found at internetarchive.org.

A Jumptheshark.com poster also suggested that Alan Alda get off of one of his Phil Donahue-esque rants and mention the masses of poor victims of North Korean brutality, mass-murder and tyranny (phrased it a little differently but that is just what that poster meant). The Jumptheshark.com postings can be found at internetarchive.org.
Another JTS-poster said that it would have been great if Hawk had been written to treat a wounded South Korean soldier who said something to him like this "How would you have liked it if the enemy came and invaded New England?".

Another JTS-poster said that it would have been great if Hawk had been written to treat a wounded South Korean soldier who said something to him like this "How would you have liked it if the enemy came and invaded New England?".
The writer of that Jumptheshark.com bit about Hawk and New England was dead on the money accuarate about what the scripts of Mash should have at least once said.

They rather rarely ever showed South Korean military personnel of any kind but when they did usually they were shown as kidnapped into the ROK military service or just very evil, bad, inhuman men. JTS posters pointed out that too. Kim II Sung where is mention of you when we need you?

There are many articles on Kim II Sung in US Newspapers from the years 1950-53. One such article is "Alias Kim" and I found it at the Aug, 20, 1950 issue of the Omaha World Herald (from Omaha, Nebraska). It talks of how the mass-murderer (not calling him that "m" word) calls himself "The Stalin of Korea". I found the article at genealogybank.com.

Resolution 83 (passed by the UN on June 27,1950) called for United Nations assistance to repel the North Korean aggressor out of the ROK.

These resolutions are important.

A great book at amazon (Tortured for Christ) talks about atheistic, horrible, brutal life in communist dictatorships (including North Korea).

A great book at amazon (Tortured for Christ) talks about atheistic, horrible, brutal life in communist dictatorships (including North Korea).

So according to your logic, all Atheists are Communists.

Duly noted.

Always fascinating to see what people thought of a mass-murderer in his own time. Kim II Sung one such mm.

Always fascinating to see what people thought of a mass-murderer in his own time. Kim II Sung one such mm.

And yet you and people like you refuse to express any outrage towards dictators who have killed their own people just for disagreeing with them on Capitalism.

And just what mass-murder. Could not have been a soul under 700,000 of his very own "beloved" North Koreans Kim II Sung let have agonizing death in his own death camps!

Suharto of Indonesia and Augusto Pinochet of Chile. According to those two, anyone who disagreed with them on Capitalism, should be murdered.

So easy to find proof of Kim II Sung's brutal, mass-murdering rule. Just google "Kim II Sung mass-murderer".

I would really like to know what exactly ticked Alan Alda off so much that he begins favoring mass-murderous, communist regimes like North Korea. I think it was the Vietnam War that set Alda off the 100% wrong way I doubt it was the real Korean War.

I would really like to know what exactly ticked Alan Alda off so much that he begins favoring mass-murderous, communist regimes like North Korea. I think it was the Vietnam War that set Alda off the 100% wrong way I doubt it was the real Korean War.


You miss the point. It's not that Hollywood liberals think that North Korea is good. It's that they think that America is bad. MASH isn't pro North Korean, it's anti-American.

Just like now there are liberals that side with Iran, etc. against the US. The fact that they would be beheaded by these murdering lunatics makes no difference to them. The fact that these Islamists are against everything these liberals stand for make no difference to them. All they care about is that Islam hates America and that makes them good.

You miss the point. It's not that Hollywood liberals think that North Korea is good. It's that they think that America is bad. MASH isn't pro North Korean, it's anti-American.

Just like now there are liberals that side with Iran, etc. against the US. The fact that they would be beheaded by these murdering lunatics makes no difference to them. The fact that these Islamists are against everything these liberals stand for make no difference to them. All they care about is that Islam hates America and that makes them good.

And Bush said "Islam is peaceful". Bush and Obama are the same. There's no difference.

And Bush said "Islam is peaceful". Bush and Obama are the same. There's no difference.

Which means what even if it were true? We are discussing Hollywood TV shows and Hollywood liberals habit of making anti-American movies and TV shows.

I remember reading that, in 1975, when the also mass-murderous North VietNamese came invading into Saigon (and all the while committed enormous amounts of abductions and massacres!) the more than equally mass-murderous North Koreans got an idea to once more attempt to take South Korea. But thankfully they were practically nuke-threatened by the US into leaving the ROK alone!

I remember reading that, in 1975, when the also mass-murderous North VietNamese came invading into Saigon (and all the while committed enormous amounts of abductions and massacres!) the more than equally mass-murderous North Koreans got an idea to once more attempt to take South Korea. But thankfully they were practically nuke-threatened by the US into leaving the ROK alone!



The important above-info is from the Standard Reference Encyclopedia Events of Yearbook 1975.