Don't know if you've ever watched the Big Bang Theory, but I was watching an episode the other day and saw something quite interesting.

In a Frasier episode, Niles and Frasier are ranting and raving about going to see "throat singers". I believe this is the ep where Martin is going back to work and needs Eddie walked while he's gone. Niles invited Daphne to a concert (Billy Joel?) and Frasier invited Niles to go hear "throat singers".

That's the first time I had ever heard of such a thing: throat singers.

In the Big Bang Thoery, somewhere in seasons three, Sheldon is upset that Lenard was breaking "the roommate agreement" and how Sheldon stayed within the guidelines of the agreement- he even stopped practicing his throat singing. Then Sheldon gives them a demonstration. WOW! So that's what throat singing is.

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Don't know if you've ever watched the Big Bang Theory, but I was watching an episode the other day and saw something quite interesting.

In a Frasier episode, Niles and Frasier are ranting and raving about going to see "throat singers". I believe this is the ep where Martin is going back to work and needs Eddie walked while he's gone. Niles invited Daphne to a concert (Billy Joel?) and Frasier invited Niles to go hear "throat singers".

That's the first time I had ever heard of such a thing: throat singers.

In the Big Bang Thoery, somewhere in seasons three, Sheldon is upset that Lenard was breaking "the roommate agreement" and how Sheldon stayed within the guidelines of the agreement- he even stopped practicing his throat singing. Then Sheldon gives them a demonstration. WOW! So that's what throat singing is.
That's pretty funny! I hadn't seen Big Bang Theory until recently, when it seemed to be playing nonstop in the breakroom at my work. After watching seasons 1, 2, and part of 3, I decided that Big Bang Theory is actually an updated version of Frasier, with younger characters. :lol: If you really look, there are parallels between all the characters and a lot of very similar personalities and storylines. There are some foundational differences, of course, but all in all, they are very similar shows, don't you think?

Huh! I really didn't notice. But Kristen once cleverly mentioned that Sheldon seems like an offspring from Frasier or Niles. :lol:

I am waiting until I finish all the Caroline in the City eps that I have on my DVR and then I'm going to rent this show and get caught up on it. The ones I've seen on TBS are absolutely hilarious. Oddly enough I found out about BBT from a waiter at Olive Garden. I was sitting there with my husband and we were waiting for our food. I was going through some notes I had for a Frasier story I was writing and the waiter asked me about it. When I went through the whole thing of explaining fan fiction, he told me that he thought BBT and Frasier are the two most intelligent shows he's ever seen. That's what got me watching BBT. But I want to watch from the beginning.

Andrea, I'm the same way with shows. Even from the beginning of watching Frasier, I found some things making more sense and some of the jokes were funnier if the show is watched in sequence.

I am waiting until I finish all the Caroline in the City eps that I have on my DVR and then I'm going to rent this show and get caught up on it. The ones I've seen on TBS are absolutely hilarious. Oddly enough I found out about BBT from a waiter at Olive Garden. I was sitting there with my husband and we were waiting for our food. I was going through some notes I had for a Frasier story I was writing and the waiter asked me about it. When I went through the whole thing of explaining fan fiction, he told me that he thought BBT and Frasier are the two most intelligent shows he's ever seen. That's what got me watching BBT. But I want to watch from the beginning.

Cool story, Andrea! :) I've only seen a couple eps of BBT so far, but my dad likes it. He watches it a lot.

Andrea, I'm the same way with shows. Even from the beginning of watching Frasier, I found some things making more sense and some of the jokes were funnier if the show is watched in sequence.
Me too... I'm a little obsessive about it though. I must watch a show in order from season one episode one, or I won't watch it at all, no matter how popular it gets, until it goes into syndication where I can see it from the beginning. :crazy:
I think it has to do with my work schedule. For 25 years I've worked evenings right through prime time, so there's tons of entire series that came and went without me ever seeing an episode first run-- Frasier was one of them, along with most every other show from the last 25 years. Guess I'm just used to seeing stuff outside of prime time. The only reason I've even seen Big Bang Theory at all is because it's playing in our breakroom at work and they rented us seasons 1-3, so I can see it from the beginning. :lol:

Me too... I'm a little obsessive about it though. I must watch a show in order from season one episode one, or I won't watch it at all, no matter how popular it gets, until it goes into syndication where I can see it from the beginning. :crazy:
I think it has to do with my work schedule. For 25 years I've worked evenings right through prime time, so there's tons of entire series that came and went without me ever seeing an episode first run-- Frasier was one of them, along with most every other show from the last 25 years. Guess I'm just used to seeing stuff outside of prime time.
Oh I can totally relate to this although it's been a long time since I've worked nights but I remember missing entire seasons of shows b/c of working and going to school at night.

The only reason I've even seen Big Bang Theory at all is because it's playing in our breakroom at work and they rented us seasons 1-3, so I can see it from the beginning. :lol:

Ha ha! That's awesome!

After watching seasons 1, 2, and part of 3, I decided that Big Bang Theory is actually an updated version of Frasier, with younger characters. :lol: If you really look, there are parallels between all the characters and a lot of very similar personalities and storylines. There are some foundational differences, of course, but all in all, they are very similar shows, don't you think?


OH MY. I was just watching some ep of Big Bang Theory season 4 and have found Sheldon's new girlfriend to be the carbon copy of Lilith!!! Her manerisms, the way she talks, and the way she reacts and coops with things.
WOW! I didn't see that one coming. It's almost like her character was described as being Lilith. :eek:

OH MY. I was just watching some ep of Big Bang Theory season 4 and have found Sheldon's new girlfriend to be the carbon copy of Lilith!!! Her manerisms, the way she talks, and the way she reacts and coops with things.
WOW! I didn't see that one coming. It's almost like her character was described as being Lilith. :eek:
Oh poor Sheldon! :eek: :lol:

I'm starting to wonder if maybe these two shows share some of the same writers, or if maybe there's a Frasier fan or two in the BBT writing staff.
Once again, Big Bang was on in our break room at work and I came in in the middle of an episode I had never seen before (I think it was season 3 or 4, and it had the word "engagement" in the episode title). Sheldon was in what looked like a hospital or maybe a research center of some sort, and he was doing exactly what Niles always does, with the handkerchief up to his face to protect him from germs. Then, word for exact word, he said "oh what fresh hell is this?" That is exactly what Frasier says in Space Quest when he's in Nervosa trying to get some space and Niles walks in and greets him.
It seems like that's a pretty specific and unique line to be coincidence, don't you guys think?

I'm starting to wonder if maybe these two shows share some of the same writers, or if maybe there's a Frasier fan or two in the BBT writing staff.
Once again, Big Bang was on in our break room at work and I came in in the middle of an episode I had never seen before (I think it was season 3 or 4, and it had the word "engagement" in the episode title). Sheldon was in what looked like a hospital or maybe a research center of some sort, and he was doing exactly what Niles always does, with the handkerchief up to his face to protect him from germs. Then, word for exact word, he said "oh what fresh hell is this?" That is exactly what Frasier says in Space Quest when he's in Nervosa trying to get some space and Niles walks in and greets him.
It seems like that's a pretty specific and unique line to be coincidence, don't you guys think?

That is too funny. I've got to see that Big Bang Episode. It must be in season 4.

That is too funny. I've got to see that Big Bang Episode. It must be in season 4.
While I haven't researched writers yet, I did research the phrase and found that it was coined by writer Dorothy Parker (1893-1967). I also found a very short clip of that BBT moment.

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While I haven't researched writers yet, I did research the phrase and found that it was coined by writer Dorothy Parker (1893-1967). I also found a very short clip of that BBT moment.

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That is funny! GREAT CALL BINGBANGBABY!
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That is funny! GREAT CALL BINGBANGBABY!
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I looked at the dvd at work today and it's season 4, episode 23, called The Engagement Reaction.

In Cheers, we never saw Vira (Norm's Wife)

In Frasier, we never saw Maris

In The Big Bang Theory, we never saw Howard's mother.

I just saw a later show of season 4 of The Big Bang Theory. Rashish (sp) took some pills in the testing phase to built his confidence in order to speak to women. Sheldon took him to a coffee shop where Rashish was able to relax enough to talk to a girl. He was so relaxed, he took his clothes off right there in the coffee shop.

Does this sound familiar...

Sheldon is a true germ-a-phobe.

I just saw a later show of season 4 of The Big Bang Theory. Rashish (sp) took some pills in the testing phase to built his confidence in order to speak to women. Sheldon took him to a coffee shop where Rashish was able to relax enough to talk to a girl. He was so relaxed, he took his clothes off right there in the coffee shop.
That is amazing...I swear they must share some of the same writers.

Another parallel I noticed in tonight's episodes... In "There's Something About Dr Mary" Frasier can't have "Chuck," the guy who can't pronounce R's and L's, produce his show while Roz is gone because every time the guy says anything Frasier says he erupts into giggles. (Hewwo Doctow Cwane) :lol:
Big Bang has a similar character in Barry Kripke.

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That is amazing...I swear they must share some of the same writers.

Another parallel I noticed in tonight's episodes... In "There's Something About Dr Mary" Frasier can't have "Chuck," the guy who can't pronounce R's and L's, produce his show while Roz is gone because every time the guy says anything Frasier says he erupts into giggles. (Hewwo Doctow Cwane) :lol:
Big Bang has a similar character in Barry Kripke.

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LOL! That is funny.

I was just watching an ep from season 5 The Big Bang Theory (The Shank Reflex Analysis - first show in season 5) and Penny was going to spend the night over at Amy's. Amy was going to teach Penny a new language she invented called ah-p. When she starts speaking it, she sounds like that one lady on Frasier who was brought over to meet Martin. When this lady starts speaking her langauge, Martin turns to Niles to say, "I think she's having a stroke."

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(They re-enter the living room.)

Niles: I'm sure they're doing just fine.
Patrice: [o.s.:] D’goo y’goo sp’geak g-sp’geak?
Niles: Oh Lord, I was afraid of this.

Martin is having trouble with her in the room as Niles and Frasier dash in.

Martin: What?
Patrice: [slower:] D’goo y’goo sp’geak g-sp’geak?
Martin: [worried:] Niles, I think she's having a stroke or something.
Niles: No, no Dad. It's just G-speak.

from the IMDB.com site:
Cross referencing the writers from Frasier and The Big Bang Theory, there are no writers listed from both TV shows, but here are some similarities:

THE BIG BANG THEORY
Eric Kaplan (33 episodes, 2008-2012)
Robert Cohen (4 episodes, 2007-2008)

FRASIER
Michael B. Kaplan (3 episodes, 1996-1997)
Dan Cohen (2 episodes, 1996-1997)


Writers of the Big Bang Theory

Series Writing credits
Chuck Lorre (112 episodes, 2007-2012)
Bill Prady (112 episodes, 2007-2012)
Steven Molaro (84 episodes, 2007-2012)
Lee Aronsohn (44 episodes, 2007-2011)
Maria Ferrari (44 episodes, 2009-2012)
Steve Holland (37 episodes, 2009-2012)
David Goetsch (35 episodes, 2007-2012)
Eric Kaplan (33 episodes, 2008-2012)
Jim Reynolds (33 episodes, 2009-2012)
Richard Rosenstock (19 episodes, 2008-2010)
Stephen Engel (10 episodes, 2008-2009)
Jennifer Glickman (6 episodes, 2007-2008)
Anthony Del Broccolo (5 episodes, 2011-2012)
Eddie Gorodetsky (5 episodes, 2011)
Robert Cohen (4 episodes, 2007-2008)
Tim Doyle (4 episodes, 2008-2009)
Tara Hernandez (4 episodes, 2011-2012)
Nicole Lorre (3 episodes, 2008-2010)
David Litt (2 episodes, 2007)
Daley Haggar (2 episodes, 2008-2009)
Jessica Ambrosetti (2 episodes, 2009-2010)


Writers of Frasier

Series Writing credits
David Angell (258 episodes, 1993-2004)
Peter Casey (258 episodes, 1993-2004)
David Lee (258 episodes, 1993-2004)
Glen Charles (243 episodes, 1993-2004)
Les Charles (242 episodes, 1993-2004)
Joe Keenan (24 episodes, 1994-2004)
Lori Kirkland (19 episodes, 1998-2004)
Christopher Lloyd (18 episodes, 1993-2004)
Anne Flett-Giordano (17 episodes, 1993-1997)
Chuck Ranberg (16 episodes, 1993-1997)
David Lloyd (15 episodes, 1994-2001)
Bob Daily (15 episodes, 1999-2004)
Sam Johnson (15 episodes, 1999-2004)
Chris Marcil (15 episodes, 1999-2004)
Jon Sherman (15 episodes, 1999-2004)
Rob Hanning (14 episodes, 1997-2002)
Danita Jones (13 episodes, 2002-2003)
Rob Greenberg (11 episodes, 1996-1999)
Jeffrey Richman (10 episodes, 1997-2004)
David Isaacs (9 episodes, 1994-2004)
Suzanne Martin (8 episodes, 1996-1998)
Jay Kogen (8 episodes, 1997-2000)
Eric Zicklin (8 episodes, 2000-2003)
Ken Levine (7 episodes, 1994-2004)
Linda Morris (7 episodes, 1994-1996)
Vic Rauseo (7 episodes, 1994-1996)
Dan O'Shannon (7 episodes, 1999-2002)
Saladin K. Patterson (7 episodes, 2000-2003)
Heide Perlman (7 episodes, 2001-2004)
Sy Dukane (5 episodes, 1993-1994)
Denise Moss (5 episodes, 1993-1994)
Steven Levitan (4 episodes, 1994-1996)
Mark Reisman (4 episodes, 1999-2001)
Patricia Breen (4 episodes, 2002-2004)
Michael B. Kaplan (3 episodes, 1996-1997)
Jack Burditt (3 episodes, 1996)
Janis Hirsch (3 episodes, 1998-1999)
Gayle Abrams (3 episodes, 2000-2002)
Leslie Eberhard (2 episodes, 1993)
Don Seigel (2 episodes, 1994-1995)
Elias Davis (2 episodes, 1995)
David Pollock (2 episodes, 1995)
Dan Cohen (2 episodes, 1996-1997)
F.J. Pratt (2 episodes, 1996-1997)
William Lucas Walker (2 episodes, 1997)
Charlie Hauck (2 episodes, 1999-2000)
Alex Gregory (2 episodes, 1999)
Peter Huyck (2 episodes, 1999)

I wonder if the producers and writers of The Big Bang Theory sat down before writing the show and decided to reference a very popular show (Frasier) before breaking ground on their own show.

I wonder if the producers and writers of The Big Bang Theory sat down before writing the show and decided to reference a very popular show (Frasier) before breaking ground on their own show.
Or they're fans. That's my guess. It seems logical to me that TV writers would be fans of good writing on other shows. I suppose if we really looked we could find other similarities to other shows too, but maybe the similarities in their project (BBT) to Frasier just naturally lends itself more easily to some of the same humor. It does seem like there's a lot of coincidences that go beyond coincidence though, doesn't it?

By the way, thanks for researching the writers. I've been meaning to do that and just haven't found a moment. :wave:

But Kristen once cleverly mentioned that Sheldon seems like an offspring from Frasier or Niles. :lol:
One of the episodes I was watching yesterday had Niles mentioning "Sheldon, his imaginary protege" from when he was a child. The way the series' run, Sheldon really could be his protege. I think someone should write that fanfic... where Niles runs into Sheldon from Big Bang and thinks it's his childhood imaginary protege come to life. :rofl:

One of the episodes I was watching yesterday had Niles mentioning "Sheldon, his imaginary protege" from when he was a child. The way the series' run, Sheldon really could be his protege. I think someone should write that fanfic... where Niles runs into Sheldon from Big Bang and thinks it's his childhood imaginary protege come to life. :rofl:

Oh that's funny! Hmmm... I keep saying I'm going to start watching TBBT and I will (as soon as I finish watching "Caroline in the City"), but your idea for a fan fic is intriguing, so I'll keep that in mind!