http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-penn-state-paterno-statue-20120713,0,2868590.storyAfter the allegtions that Coach Paterno knew more about the sex allegations than he admitted to, there is talk that they should remove his state. What do you think?

Absolutely. He not only knew about it, he helped cover it up. If he hadn't died he'd probably be charged with something as well. That statue is now a constant reminder of the Sandusky scandal. If I was a fan of Penn St. I'd want it out as soon as possible.

It should definitely be removed. Statues are built to honor people, and for what he did, he should not be honored.

Yes, I agree with the above posters.

no,he's dead. leave him alone. they didn't know about the sex allegations before the statue went up.

they didn't know about the sex allegations before the statue went up.

That's completely irrelevant. They need to take it down--leaving it up would be repulsive.

no,he's dead. leave him alone. they didn't know about the sex allegations before the statue went up.

Well actually some of the by standers did. Then again, when did the statue go up?? It is sad the people seem to look the other way when a crime has been committed. I read people were afraid to say anything for they felt they would lose their jobs. The young boys who were victims will never be the same. Losing your job and standing up would be far more beneficial to your mind and soul than keeping quiet. Keeping the statue up would say, I approve of what went on. Do you??

remove it

smash it

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2012-07-14/joe-paterno-statue-removal-penn-state-freeh-report-jerry-sandusky-child-sex-abus?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl3|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D179208

Joe Paterno statue to stay on Penn State campus for now, sources say

The Penn State Board of Trustees will not order the removal of Joe Paterno’s statue, at least not in the immediate future and maybe not ever,sources close to the trustees’ private discussions have told ESPN.com.

The trustees do not want to succumb to emotional outcries and media pressure to have the bronze statue taken down. They also are sensitive to the many alumni and students who hold on to adoration for the man who was a part of the program for 61 years.

Olson: Paterno exposed as Penn State's Cowardly Lion

Paterno’s role in the cover-up for convicted child molester Jerry Sandusky, as alleged in the Freeh Report this week, makes the statue for so many a painful and infuriating reminder of Paterno’s abject failure to protect the innocence of Sandusky’s victims.

“You can’t let people stampede you into making a rash decision,” a trustee told ESPN.com. “The statue represents the good that Joe did. It doesn’t represent the bad that he did.”

According to ESPN.com, some trustees believed the statue eventually would have to be torn down. However, most reached the consensus that it should remain standing for now. Some, sources said, insisted that it should never be removed.

“It has to stay up,” a trustee told the website. “We have to let a number of months pass, and we’ll address it again. But there is no way, no way. It’s just not coming down.”

Paterno’s contemporary, former Florida State coach Bobby Bowden, is among the most influential voices insisting the statue has no place on campus.

“You go to a Penn State football game and there’s 100,000 people down there and they see that statue and you know doggone well they’ll start talking about Sandusky,” Bowden told The Associated Press. “If it was me, I wouldn’t want to have it brought up every time I walked out on the field.”

Paterno, along with president Graham Spanier, athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz, knew of the 1998 investigation of Sandusky, the Freeh report claims. Paterno also dissuaded administrators from exposing Sandusky after he was seen raping a young boy in the shower in 2001, the internal investigation concluded.

At the same time, Paterno and his family donated more than $4 million to the university and coached hundreds of football players to victories achieved on and off the field. His 409 career wins is more than any coach in major college football—eclipsing the record held by the late Grambling State coach Eddie Robinson just before Sandusky was arrested.

On Saturday, the New York Times reported that in the same month Paterno testified before a grand jury, he began negotiating to amend his contract. He would be paid $5.5 million and his tenure would end at the conclusion of the 2011 season. His original contract had him coaching through the 2012 season. Paterno died Jan. 22 of this year.

The Paterno statue outside Beaver Stadium is being closely guarded by security these days, with rumors abound that the campus police will tear down the statue in the dark of night.

Trustees chairwoman Karen Peetz acknowledged that the statue is a “very sensitive topic.” She said the decision would not fall solely on the board, either. The board fired Paterno over the phone in November, a move that resulted in outrage among the Penn State community.

This time, if and when the statue comes down, it will be after careful consideration. Nike didn’t wait, removing Paterno’s name from its child development center. On Saturday, the halo atop Paterno’s head on the Heister Street mural was painted over by an artist, ESPN.com reports. The Lasch Building locker rooms, where Sandusky committed many of his crimes, will eventually be renovated.

As for the statute, a permanent decision will be made in due time.

Said trustee Ken Frazier: “I think we have to take some time, some reflection and distance before making a decision on how we will think about Joe Paterno’s entire life and body of work.”

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2012-07-14/joe-paterno-statue-removal-penn-state-freeh-report-jerry-sandusky-child-sex-abus?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl3|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D179208

Joe Paterno statue to stay on Penn State campus for now, sources say

The Penn State Board of Trustees will not order the removal of Joe Paterno’s statue, at least not in the immediate future and maybe not ever,sources close to the trustees’ private discussions have told ESPN.com.

The trustees do not want to succumb to emotional outcries and media pressure to have the bronze statue taken down. They also are sensitive to the many alumni and students who hold on to adoration for the man who was a part of the program for 61 years.

Olson: Paterno exposed as Penn State's Cowardly Lion

Paterno’s role in the cover-up for convicted child molester Jerry Sandusky, as alleged in the Freeh Report this week, makes the statue for so many a painful and infuriating reminder of Paterno’s abject failure to protect the innocence of Sandusky’s victims.

“You can’t let people stampede you into making a rash decision,” a trustee told ESPN.com. “The statue represents the good that Joe did. It doesn’t represent the bad that he did.”

According to ESPN.com, some trustees believed the statue eventually would have to be torn down. However, most reached the consensus that it should remain standing for now. Some, sources said, insisted that it should never be removed.

“It has to stay up,” a trustee told the website. “We have to let a number of months pass, and we’ll address it again. But there is no way, no way. It’s just not coming down.”

Paterno’s contemporary, former Florida State coach Bobby Bowden, is among the most influential voices insisting the statue has no place on campus.

“You go to a Penn State football game and there’s 100,000 people down there and they see that statue and you know doggone well they’ll start talking about Sandusky,” Bowden told The Associated Press. “If it was me, I wouldn’t want to have it brought up every time I walked out on the field.”

Paterno, along with president Graham Spanier, athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz, knew of the 1998 investigation of Sandusky, the Freeh report claims. Paterno also dissuaded administrators from exposing Sandusky after he was seen raping a young boy in the shower in 2001, the internal investigation concluded.

At the same time, Paterno and his family donated more than $4 million to the university and coached hundreds of football players to victories achieved on and off the field. His 409 career wins is more than any coach in major college football—eclipsing the record held by the late Grambling State coach Eddie Robinson just before Sandusky was arrested.

On Saturday, the New York Times reported that in the same month Paterno testified before a grand jury, he began negotiating to amend his contract. He would be paid $5.5 million and his tenure would end at the conclusion of the 2011 season. His original contract had him coaching through the 2012 season. Paterno died Jan. 22 of this year.

The Paterno statue outside Beaver Stadium is being closely guarded by security these days, with rumors abound that the campus police will tear down the statue in the dark of night.

Trustees chairwoman Karen Peetz acknowledged that the statue is a “very sensitive topic.” She said the decision would not fall solely on the board, either. The board fired Paterno over the phone in November, a move that resulted in outrage among the Penn State community.

This time, if and when the statue comes down, it will be after careful consideration. Nike didn’t wait, removing Paterno’s name from its child development center. On Saturday, the halo atop Paterno’s head on the Heister Street mural was painted over by an artist, ESPN.com reports. The Lasch Building locker rooms, where Sandusky committed many of his crimes, will eventually be renovated.

As for the statute, a permanent decision will be made in due time.

Said trustee Ken Frazier: “I think we have to take some time, some reflection and distance before making a decision on how we will think about Joe Paterno’s entire life and body of work.”
“The statue represents the good that Joe did. It doesn’t represent the bad that he did.”

That's a joke. It represents everything he did. There's quite a lot of coverage of this on my local news. I think many of the Penn St. Alumni are in denial. Paternal was not who everyone thought he was. He covered it all up and pressured others at Penn St. to remain quiet. The Athletic Director was his boss in name only. I always get a kick of people who say he reported it to his superiors. He was the superior. If he wanted Sandusky off that campus, he wouldn't have been there. I think it's only going to get worse for Joe's reputation as the trials for all these other people involved in the coverup take place.

It has to go, no doubt about it.

Where is the statue, and would it take a lot of work to remove it. ??

If it is proven that he knew about the seriousness of the sex abuse that Jerry Sandusky did and decided to ignore it. Then he is an accessory to the crime. Because by ignoring what former coach Sandusky did is the same as condoning it. And then the statue should be removed. Because a lot of the kids lives were ruined because of Jerry Sandusky that should never be forgotten. EVER!

“The statue represents the good that Joe did. It doesn’t represent the bad that he did.”

That's a joke. It represents everything he did. There's quite a lot of coverage of this on my local news. I think many of the Penn St. Alumni are in denial. Paternal was not who everyone thought he was. He covered it all up and pressured others at Penn St. to remain quiet. The Athletic Director was his boss in name only. I always get a kick of people who say he reported it to his superiors. He was the superior. If he wanted Sandusky off that campus, he wouldn't have been there. I think it's only going to get worse for Joe's reputation as the trials for all these other people involved in the coverup take place.
:yeahthat

They should probably leave it there...and erect a Sandusky statue right next to it. The inscription on the statues should say "We are Penn State".

They should probably leave it there...and erect a Sandusky statue right next to it. The inscription on the statues should say "We are Penn State".
:lol:

A good article on Joe Paterno from 1987

http://articles.latimes.com/1987-05-17/sports/sp-774_1_joe-paterno

A good article on Joe Paterno from 1987

http://articles.latimes.com/1987-05-17/sports/sp-774_1_joe-paterno


Wow, he was 60 when that article came out!

If removed...they might as well have Penn State Depaternoized! (It's like Destalinized in the 50's).

As Steve Urkel would say, "SHEEP!! THEY'RE ALL SHEEP!!!"

:mad:

As Steve Urkel would say, "SHEEP!! THEY'RE ALL SHEEP!!!"

:mad:


LOL. I think that was from season two.

I'm on the keep it side. Not sure why, but I am.

Well the statue just came down. I knew it would.

Go Temple Owls! (After years of getting beat by PSUcks in football, it will be great to see some teams on the winning end for a change -- once the State sanctions set in. Hee-hee!)
PSUcks! PSUcks!

Well the statue just came down. I knew it would.

Thanks for the info. Stuck In The 70's. Here's the link. http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/07/22/penn-state-president-orders-removal-joe-paterno-statue/

And the NCAA is going to come down on Penn St. tomorrow.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-57477382/ncaa-source-unprecedented-penalties-against-penn-state

guess they will tear the stadium down next week

guess they will tear the stadium down next week
They actually had live coverage of Paterno's funeral on my local station up here. I wonder if they would do it today knowing what they know now.

It sounds like the statue is represent a negative image of a man. I'm sure that there will be people that look at it and will relate it to this heavy issue. There are some that won't but very many that are familiar with the case will probably look back and remember the controversy. If it were me, I'd take it down.

A sibling of mine said that NCAA should suspend Penn State from playing football for a year and I agree with them. Many boys' lives were destroyed because Joe Paterno ignored the problem. Money and prestige were more important to Coach Paterno than the boys' safety.

The NCAA Hammered Penn St. It looks like Paterno is no longer the Winningest football coach now.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2012-07-23/ncaa-penn-state-punishment-sanctions/56427630/1

The NCAA Hammered Penn St. It looks like Paterno is no longer the Winningest football coach now.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2012-07-23/ncaa-penn-state-punishment-sanctions/56427630/1

Yep they deserve that. Hopefully this is the first step in the right direction for Penn State and other schools to do the right thing for the students and kids and stop doing things for money and prestige.

Not sure I agree with the suggestion to suspend them from playing football for a year, I mean most of those players aren't there anymore.

Not sure I agree with the suggestion to suspend them from playing football for a year, I mean most of those players aren't there anymore.


I know that coach from the Patriots is so sorry he accepted that Penn State Head coach job. I was confused why he wanted back in December even before all of this happened